| * OvenWerks should download one :) | 04:30 | |
| OvenWerks | Eickmeyer: /etc/xdg/xdg-ubuntustudio/xfce4/xfconf/xfce-perchannel-xml/ has xfce4-keyboard-shortcuts.xml | 15:29 |
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| Eickmeyer | OvenWerks: Okay, heading out to get my son to school. Willl check when I get back, but, tbh, I've never had a problem. | 15:30 |
| OvenWerks | Eickmeyer: I think that device 1 or device 0 used to be the same as @DEFAULT_SINK@ but at some point that changed. | 15:32 |
| OvenWerks | anyway I will keep writing here... you can read when you get back ;) | 15:33 |
| OvenWerks | Actually I won't be able to do much as I have an appointment right away. | 15:35 |
| OvenWerks | The general thing is that the shortcut should run: pactl set-sink-volume @DEFAULT_SINK@ -1 | 15:37 |
| OvenWerks | and pactl | 15:37 |
| OvenWerks | and: pactl set-sink-volume @DEFAULT_SINK@ +1 | 15:38 |
| OvenWerks | if you use settings->keyboard->application shortcuts to set it, then you should find the line to add to the above file in /etc in ~/.config/xfce4/xfconf/xfce-perchannel-xml/ | 15:40 |
| OvenWerks | gotta go. | 15:40 |
| Eickmeyer | OvenWerks: When you get back, it appears that we don't have anything in the keyboard shortcuts that's not different from the default keyboard shortcuts in xfce, and my settings in ~/.config/... don't show any different, so we already have the shortcuts set properly. | 15:52 |
| Eickmeyer | OvenWerks: By the way, if that Chris guy refuses to take our support advice, I might eject him from the room because 1) what's the point of being in a support room if you're not going to take it, and 2) we don't want him spreading bad advice. | 16:03 |
| OvenWerks | Eickmeyer: he can apt remove ubuntustudio-controls... | 16:18 |
| Eickmeyer | He did. | 16:18 |
| Eickmeyer | But, I'd rather he fix the problem or find the bug than take such a drastic view. He didn't understand that -controls doesn't display the exact state of the audio configuration. He was assuming that since the box was checked that Jack was still running.. | 16:19 |
| Eickmeyer | Without checking anything else, such as qjackctl which would show if it was still running. | 16:20 |
| OvenWerks | Eickmeyer: it was obvious to me that he has no understanding of low latency audio. | 16:26 |
| Eickmeyer | And that's one reason why I'm worried he'll give bad advice. | 16:26 |
| OvenWerks | Eickmeyer: anyway, as part of the next my next work on -controls I will remove the checkbox for start jack at session start. and replace it with a jack is running LED or indicator. | 16:27 |
| Eickmeyer | OvenWerks: That's a great idea. No rush on that, but I think 19.10 would be a good target. | 16:28 |
| OvenWerks | He said he has "low latency" hw... and so doewsn't need jack ??! | 16:28 |
| Eickmeyer | OvenWerks: Yeah. smh | 16:28 |
| OvenWerks | Not only that, he has a USB device, so not that low latency. | 16:29 |
| Eickmeyer | Not without Jack. | 16:29 |
| Eickmeyer | Maybe ASIO or CoreAudio works with it better, but that applies to anything compared to Pulse. | 16:30 |
| OvenWerks | even with jack, USB is minimum 1ms one way just to run and twice that for no xruns if everything is set right | 16:30 |
| Eickmeyer | Right. Low latency, not no latency. | 16:30 |
| OvenWerks | windows is worse, CoreAudio better out of the box | 16:31 |
| OvenWerks | Windows hides things... they just have a latecny slider... if you get clicks try higher latency settings. | 16:31 |
| Eickmeyer | Are you talking about ASIO4All or just in general? | 16:32 |
| OvenWerks | The mac hardware is (well used to be) better because they are much more careful about not tying all the USB ports together inside | 16:33 |
| Eickmeyer | Yeah, with Macs that went bye-bye as soon as they went to one single USB-C connector for everything. :P | 16:33 |
| OvenWerks | just windows in general... the set of tweaks for windows to get good low latency opperation are not easy user settings... definately not and out of the box deal. | 16:34 |
| OvenWerks | it went bye bye when Jobs did. | 16:34 |
| Eickmeyer | Yes. When Jobs went, that was it for Apple imho. | 16:35 |
| OvenWerks | I could not find any lines in the kb shortcuts with a pactl line. I think we need to add one for vol controls. | 16:36 |
| OvenWerks | anyway I won't be able to look at it till the next time my wife goes to work at the earliest. (so not today) | 16:37 |
| Eickmeyer | No hurry. | 16:38 |
| OvenWerks | So two things for sure in -controls periods and jack indicator. | 16:41 |
| OvenWerks | Actually three, -controls startup should remove PA config added by Cadence and remove the Cadence autostart file. | 16:42 |
| OvenWerks | Then it would not matter if Cadence is also installed. (may have to stop the autostarted Cadence as well) | 16:43 |
| Eickmeyer | Yep. | 16:52 |
| Eickmeyer | I have to fix some stuff in Carla as well, in terms of packaging. It's still hanging-out in the new queue. | 16:53 |
| Eickmeyer | Removing this page after 16.04 EOL: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuStudioPreparation | 21:07 |
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