[00:02] <xubuntu14w> when the terminal says you must manually run 'sudo dpkg --configure -a' to correct the problem, what do I do?
[00:08] <well_laid_lawn> type that command into the terminal
[00:08] <well_laid_lawn> and hit the enter key
[00:11] <xubuntu14w> Okay, thanks, I had left out the -- before configure, now it's doing something
[00:13] <xubuntu14w> terminal says "setting up initramfs-tools...Generating /boot/...generic
[00:16] <xubuntu14w> now did the sudo apt install libxcb-keysims1, and it say unable to locate package
[00:18] <well_laid_lawn> !info libxcb-keysyms1
[00:18] <well_laid_lawn> you spelt it wrong
[00:22] <xubuntu14w> !info libxcb-keysyms1, I got bash !info: event not found
[00:28] <well_laid_lawn> xubuntu14w:  there is a bot here with answers
[00:28] <well_laid_lawn> !bot
[00:28] <well_laid_lawn> so the !info bit was to get an answer from the bot
[00:29] <well_laid_lawn> to install a package in the terminal do   sudo apt install libxcb-keysyms1
[00:31] <xubuntu14w> I don't understand the bot etc, but I will say thank you very much, I did manage to get the syntax right with your help, anddid the sudo apt install libxcb...and it did go get it, now at downloads folder>terminal ./kdanlive19.appimage does load the vide editor, your help is very much apprieciated thanks again
[00:32] <well_laid_lawn> cheers
[02:33] <pikapika> Hi
[02:33] <pikapika> Anyone here who dist upgraded from 16.04 lts to 18.04 lts?
[02:34] <pikapika> and uh noticed a change in fonts for the worse and theme breakage?
[02:35] <pikapika> Hi pragmaticenigma
[02:50] <pikapika> so
[02:50] <pikapika> a big part of the annoyance is this: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/freetype/+bug/1722508
[04:55] <tooco0l> hi everyone, is t here anyone that could assist me with a boot error im having
[04:55] <diogenes_> !ask
[04:55] <tooco0l> my apologies thanks
[04:57] <tooco0l> I am having two issues, first issue i am having is when xubuntu goes to sleep on me the screen goes black and i cannot 'awake' the screen any longer. i had to force restart and now i am getting 'failed to claim resource 16' boot error?
[04:58] <tooco0l> i have been unable to login since. my second problem is now i am in a live CD version of xubuntu in an attempt to recover some of my important files and after i mounted and decrypted the volume i found i cannot access my files in the 'root' directory. it says 'permission denied' despite having already mounted and decrypted the volume? thanks in advance!
[05:04] <diogenes_> tooco0l, your first issue might be related to the TPM (Trusted Platform Module)
[05:04] <tooco0l> thank you i was looking into that, is there anyway i can do anything about that? i checked bios i didnt find it
[05:04] <diogenes_> do you have windows too?
[05:04] <tooco0l> i only found something like intel trusted tech?
[05:04] <tooco0l> no i dont i formatted it entirely
[05:05] <tooco0l> andi should clarify its device creation failed -16
[05:06] <diogenes_> look in bios for settings to disable but first you could try to boot with acpi=off option
[05:06] <tooco0l> i will double check bios but i did and there was nothing for tpm
[05:07] <tooco0l> may i ask how to do the acpi=off?
[05:07] <diogenes_> when you reach grub menu press e
[05:08] <diogenes_> add acpi=off to the line that starts with linux
[05:08] <diogenes_> then ctrl+x
[05:08] <diogenes_> done
[05:08] <tooco0l> ill give that a try right now
[05:08] <tooco0l> thank you so much
[05:09] <tooco0l> hopefully i wont be back
[05:09] <diogenes_> no problem
[05:17] <Toocool> Hi diogenes_ no luck :( any other ideas by chance
[05:17] <Toocool> Even if it's just to recover my files from root dir
[05:20] <diogenes_> Toocool, another one is alonside acpi=off nomodeset
[05:22] <Toocool> Thanks
[05:22] <Toocool> So acpi=off nomodeset
[05:22] <diogenes_> yes and
[05:23] <diogenes_> if there is something that start with word resune
[05:23] <Toocool> ?
[05:23] <diogenes_> remove that
[05:24] <Toocool> A whole line of code ?
[05:24] <Toocool> Or just remove any command that begins with resume
[05:24] <diogenes_> yes resumexxxblablabla until space
[05:24] <well_laid_lawn> on the grub kernel command line
[05:25] <diogenes_> but onli when its present in linux line
[05:26] <Toocool> Ok so I didn't see anything with resume in it
[05:26] <Toocool> Just added acpi=off nomodeset same error
[05:26] <diogenes_> ok the also remove word quiet
[05:28] <Toocool> Now I get gave up waiting for suspend/resume device
[05:28] <Toocool> Gage up waiting for root file system Device
[05:34] <diogenes_> yes troubles, the try to back up data
[05:34] <diogenes_> then*
[05:34] <Toocool> I can't access the root directory
[05:34] <Toocool> Says permission denied when I mount the encrypted volume on the live cd
[05:34] <diogenes_> start thunar as root
[05:35] <Toocool> Tough lesson learned to always have backups huh lol
[05:35] <Toocool> You mind walking me through that
[05:35] <diogenes_> sudo -S thunar
[05:35] <diogenes_> enter
[05:37] <Toocool> Booting back up in live CD now thanks
[05:37] <diogenes_> you're welcome
[05:38] <Toocool> For future prevention of this since you helped me narrow it down to something with the drivers and it going to sleep do you think I can change the settings to prevent it from sleeping
[05:39] <diogenes_> we can investigate but no guarantees
[05:40] <Toocool> There's no settings to change how long before it sleeps
[05:40] <diogenes_> yes there is
[05:40] <diogenes_> power-manager
[05:41] <Toocool> Ok just got in
[05:41] <Toocool> Trying command line
[05:45] <Toocool> Ugh
[05:45] <Toocool> So I don't see the file system in thunar
[05:45] <Toocool> It's only on my desktop as encrypted file system until I try to double click on it and moubt it
[05:46] <diogenes_> then mount it first
[05:47] <Toocool> Ok so I did and I see it in thunar
[05:47] <appa> I'm having an issue with the pulseaudio controller, I'm trying to change the output device for an application, the option for the device is there, but it ignores me when i click and doesn't change the device.
[05:47] <appa> anyone seen that?
[05:47] <Toocool> But when I open the root folder in thunar it's blank in the regular mount it's restricted
[05:49] <diogenes_> Toocool, run: whoami and tell the the output
[05:50] <diogenes_> appa, try to change it via commandline
[05:51] <Toocool> I had to open another command line to do it because the terminal I ran thunar -s or whatever in is stuck in that command
[05:52] <Toocool> But in that terminal it is xubuntu
[05:52] <Toocool> If you're trying to check if I'm root in the file manager I am it says so in the warning box at the top
[05:53] <diogenes_> try: sudo chown xubuntu /path/to/folder
[05:55] <appa> diogenes_: I'll see if I can look it up
[05:58] <Toocool> So I got the money sign
[05:58] <Toocool> Like it successfully did something
[05:59] <diogenes_> now try to open it normally
[05:59] <Toocool> Let's see
[06:00] <Toocool> Now I can't even find the folder
[06:01] <well_laid_lawn> wasn't the folder the / one
[06:01] <well_laid_lawn> ?
[06:01] <diogenes_> what is the path to the folder?
[06:01] <Toocool> Found it
[06:02] <Toocool> Okay so I still get sane error
[06:02] <well_laid_lawn> well done
[06:02] <Toocool> Permission denied
[06:02] <Toocool> I'm gonna tear my hair out this is so frustrating!
[06:02] <diogenes_> righ click on it > properties > permissions
[06:02] <Toocool> Before i was able to see the file I needed
[06:03] <diogenes_> see who is the owner
[06:03] <Toocool> Says 1000
[06:04] <Toocool> Hold on
[06:04] <Toocool> I'm sending the file I need to recover to my phone via bluetoBlu
[06:05] <Toocool> You might have just saved my ass
[06:05] <diogenes_> in that directory right click on white space > open terminat here > sudo -S thunar
[06:05] <Toocool> Yeah the Bluetooth transfer isn't working
[06:05] <Toocool> I'll try your way
[06:06] <well_laid_lawn> the chown might have needed a -R
[06:07] <Toocool> So I did I got the sake window I had again
[06:07] <diogenes_> well_laid_lawn, good point
[06:08] <diogenes_> Toocool, try again: sudo chown -R xubuntu /path/to/folder
[06:08] <Toocool> Question for you guys
[06:09] <Toocool> Can't I change the permission of the file I want ?
[06:09] <diogenes_> yes
[06:09] <Toocool> Can't i change it to xububtu as the user with oernjsperm
[06:09] <Toocool> PermisiPer
[06:09] <Toocool> I tried it still won't transfer over Bluetooth
[06:10] <diogenes_> Toocool, try to upload it then to some googledrive
[06:12] <Toocool> What should I change on permission
[06:13] <Toocool> I can't even compress it into an archive
[06:13] <diogenes_> sudo chmod 777 /path/to/file
[06:14] <Toocool> Is there a way to paste the directory into the terminal
[06:14] <Toocool> Manually typing it took forever
[06:15] <diogenes_> you don't have to type it at all
[06:15] <Toocool> ?
[06:15] <diogenes_> just write: sudo chmod 777 and grab the file and throw it into the r=terminal
[06:15] <diogenes_> drag-and-drop
[06:15] <Toocool> Hit entry
[06:15] <Toocool> Seemed to work
[06:15] <Toocool> Now what sir
[06:16] <diogenes_> now look at the file whether its unblocked
[06:17] <Toocool> No
[06:17] <Toocool> Permission restricted
[06:18] <diogenes_> try to copy it to some external device
[06:18] <Toocool> Farthest I have gotten is to the folder I use the right click terninal you showed me run -S thunar and I could view it
[06:19] <Toocool> I don't have fksdh drive
[06:19] <Toocool> Honestly sounds like I'm sol
[06:19] <diogenes_> no pendrive?
[06:20] <Toocool> I appreciate all your help
[06:20] <Toocool> I wish I did
[06:20] <Toocool> I think I would run into same problem
[06:20] <Toocool> Cause I get permission denied aythjany I do can't even copy to desktop
[06:20] <diogenes_> then upload to google drive
[06:21] <Toocool> How do I do that if I can't even access it without going into sudo and manually clicking on it
[06:21] <Toocool> I'll try
[06:22] <diogenes_> try this; sudo -S rsync --info=progress2 /path/to/file ~/Desktop
[06:22] <diogenes_> see if it copies it
[06:36] <Toocool> Diogenes_ thanks for everything
[06:36] <Toocool> Nothing I do works :'(
[06:37] <diogenes_> Toocool, have you got a separate /home partition?
[06:38] <diogenes_> or it's all / root
[06:38] <Toocool> It's in home
[06:38] <Toocool> My file is in the home directoru
[06:38] <Toocool> Well I found it in home now
[06:38] <diogenes_> i mean is /home a separate partition?
[06:39] <Toocool> It's in home/user/virtual box /
[06:40] <diogenes_> Toocool, run in terminal; lsblk | nc termbin.com 999
[06:40] <diogenes_> share the link you get
[06:40] <diogenes_> oops it's 9999
[06:40] <diogenes_> 4 9s
[06:41] <Toocool> Termbin.com/,icg0
[06:41] <Toocool> No ,
[06:43] <diogenes_> so your only way now is to re-install () if no one in this channel has a different solution
[06:44] <diogenes_> but for re-installation, you don't have to format the drive otherwise your files will be lost
[06:44] <diogenes_> what you can try is to remove the all the folders except /home from / (root) directory and go ahead re-installing but no formatting
[06:44] <well_laid_lawn> would a chroot be an option ?
[06:45] <diogenes_> also from /home/user you need to remove all (hidden) .folders and .files before re-installing
[06:45] <diogenes_> and with chroot it's worth a try
[06:47] <diogenes_> at least there is one positive thing that we found out form all our exercises today and it's that encrypted volumes are rock solid hehe
[06:59] <Toocool> When I turn on my laptop i no longer can boot into bios I automatic boot into gnu grub
[06:59] <Toocool> Can anyone advise because I can't get it to even boot from livecd anymore
[07:01] <well_laid_lawn> grub happens after the bios power on self test so unless you disabled that in bios you should still be able to get into the bios
[07:02] <Toocool> I lost connection in sorry if anyone had advice can they post again
[07:02] <well_laid_lawn> power on and start continually hitting the key for the bios
[07:02] <well_laid_lawn> power on and start continually hitting the key for the bios
[07:02] <well_laid_lawn> grub happens after the bios power on self test so unless you disabled that in bios you should still be able to get into the bios
[07:02] <well_laid_lawn> power on and start continually hitting the key for the bios
[07:02] <knome> i don't think you can *ever* block yourself out of bios, even if you disble all possible options; it might just be a bit harder...
[07:02] <Toocool> I tried I hit f10 f12 F1 and f2 all should work for Lenovo ideapad
[07:04] <well_laid_lawn> as soon as you let go of the power button start hitting the F1 key and keep hitting it quickly
[07:04] <Toocool> I've literally restarted like 6x now I've tried hitting all the different keys since booting
[07:04] <Toocool> I did I'll try again
[07:04] <diogenes_> Toocool, might be some RAM cache or something so you can try to power off the laptop completely, unplug the charger, unplug the battery and with keep the power button pressed for at least 30 seconds then put the charger back and try again accessing the bios
[07:06] <Toocool> Okay it legit isn't booting into bios I tried every key since the moment I hit poee button until grub menu
[07:06] <Toocool> I unplugged charger
[07:06] <Toocool> My laptop is literally stuck
[07:07] <diogenes_> keep the power button pressed after unpluging charger and battery for more time
[07:07] <diogenes_> 1 minute
[07:07] <Toocool> I can't unhook battery unless I get screw drive I think
[07:08] <Toocool> Yeah I can't take out the battery
[07:08] <diogenes_> bad day ech
[07:09] <Toocool> Seriously
[07:09] <Toocool> This is unbelievable
[07:09] <Toocool> I get the hard learned lesson backup stuff yes etc etc
[07:09] <Toocool> But now I can't even turn it on ??
[07:11] <diogenes_> it happens to everyone once in a while another lesson learn is don't but products that won't allow you to easily replace parts and just have everything glued in battery ram and so on
[07:11] <diogenes_> s/but/buy
[07:15] <Toocool> Okay so I typed in exit
[07:15] <Toocool> Got to boot menu im gonna fresh install
[07:16] <Toocool> And I'll take your advice use power manager and never let it sleep again
[07:18] <diogenes_> bur first ever thing is backup
[07:20] <Toocool> Aye
[07:20] <Toocool> May I get your opinion on something while I have you here
[07:21] <Toocool> If you are familiar with virtual box at all would you know if I would incur any performance loss if I were to run my virtual box images from a flash drive ?
[07:22] <well_laid_lawn> yes - usb throughput is slower
[07:22] <diogenes_> Toocool, i've never tried that so i have no clue.
[07:23] <Toocool> Thanks well_laid_lawn
[07:25] <well_laid_lawn> cheers
[07:26] <Toocool> You guys are awesome
[07:26] <Toocool> Really can't thank you enough for the help
[07:27] <well_laid_lawn> luck
[07:27] <Toocool> Do you guys know if there is apparmor available for virtualbox on xubuntu?
[07:27] <Toocool> I've only seen it I believe for Debian repositoru
[07:28] <well_laid_lawn> !info apparmor
[07:29] <Toocool> Thx I know xubuntu has default app armor profiles
[07:29] <well_laid_lawn> it seems you set an apparmor profile for vbo
[07:29] <well_laid_lawn> it seems you set an apparmor profile for vbox
[07:29] <Toocool> Like I would make it up myself
[07:29] <Toocool> And set the permission
[07:30] <well_laid_lawn> or find one on the net
[07:30] <Toocool> Thx
[07:30] <Toocool> And to clarify xubuntu already installs and runs apparmor normally right
[07:30] <Toocool> I think it had like 20 preinstalled profiles
[07:31] <well_laid_lawn> https://wiki.debian.org/AppArmor/HowToUse#Enable_.2F_install_more_profiles
[07:32] <diogenes_> there is also firejail, a good sandboxing alternative
[07:38] <Toocool> Tysm
[10:42] <alberto-g> Hello, after upgrade to 18.10 I found that the top panel is not sensitive to clicks in the upper pixels.
[10:44] <alberto-g> This means that I can no longer bring the cursor all the way up and then click, I have to stay a little far from the top of the screen.
[10:44] <alberto-g> This is quite unnerving, does it happens just for me?
[10:48] <Spass> hello alberto-g, it's a small bug in Greybird GTK style, it has been fixed but the package in 18.10 is not upgraded
[10:49] <alberto-g> Thanks Spass, so do I just need to change style?
[10:49] <Spass> you can download new version from the GitHub or as a DEB package from here - https://packages.ubuntu.com/disco/all/greybird-gtk-theme/download
[10:50] <Spass> if you like Greybird just install the newer version, it should fix your problem
[10:50] <alberto-g> OK Thanks a lot.
[15:42] <pikapika> also
[15:42] <pikapika> is there a way to disable this plop error sound that seems to have been added all of a sudden in 18.04?
[15:42] <pikapika> (settings -> appearance -> settings -> both sound related checkboxes are off there)
[15:43] <diogenes_> pikapika,  you mean the system bell?
[15:43] <pikapika> like for example, right there in the main settings page textbox if it is blank and I hit backspace that sound plays
[15:43] <pikapika> or if I hit backspace in empty search field in whisker menu
[15:43] <pikapika> this wasn't there in 16.04
[15:43] <pikapika> looks like the upgrade to 18.04 has done all kinds of shitty things
[15:44] <pikapika> fonts look trash, theme broke and this sound problem
[15:44] <pikapika> diogenes_, I am not sure if its system bell, I further described some examples of the sound
[15:44] <diogenes_> yes it's called bell
[15:45] <pikapika> okay, how do I disable the bell and other such system sounds
[15:45] <pikapika> not disable sound in general
[15:45] <pikapika> of course I wanna listen to music etc normally
[15:45] <diogenes_> pikapika, wait
[15:46] <diogenes_> pikapika, install dconf-editor
[15:46] <pikapika> also, just another question for everyone here until he searches the answer. If in a theme, no gtk-3.0 styling is present do gtk3 apps fall back on the styling data of the gtk-2.0 folder?
[15:46] <pikapika> hah
[15:46] <pikapika> this sound is also palying in hexchat textbox too
[15:50] <pikapika> I hate partial overrides in themes that leave incosistent color remnants of previous theme
[15:50] <pikapika> so I am considering writing my own to solve this nonsense once and for all
[15:50] <pikapika> but gtk-3.0 themes seem super complex and MAMMOTH
[15:51] <pikapika> So I am hoping a 2.0 theme would be sufficient for gtk3 apps too
[15:52] <pikapika> diogenes_, do you have any idea about this?
[15:52] <diogenes_> pikapika, not about themes but about bell i already gave you the first step
[15:52] <pikapika> Oh of course, its installing right now
[15:53] <diogenes_> then look for "bell"
[15:53] <diogenes_> and change to false all its occurrences
[15:56] <pikapika> I did and quit dconf-editor, sound still plays :(
[15:56] <diogenes_> there can be more that one place where bell is located
[15:57] <pikapika> or does it require a log out login?
[16:03] <ilias_gr> Hi all. I lost my Xubuntu session and the system log in only in a Xfce session. Any idea to restore Xubuntu session?
[16:05] <diogenes_> pikapika, also remove the old session and cache for old sessions and re-log
[16:07] <pikapika> okay
[16:08] <ilias_gr> there is only a recent xfce4-session in cache Do I have to remove it? Will this solve the problem?
[16:09] <xubuntu67f> 0
[16:10] <ilias_gr> I realized that I am in a different session because I saw some differences in my system's configuration (appeareance, fonts etc) and that I couldn't open Sound Settings through Sound indicator in panel.
[16:10] <ilias_gr>  Then I read that pavucontrol cannot open from sound indicator if the system isn't running in a Xubuntu session
[16:16] <diogenes_> ilias_gr, could be something messed up with your configs
[16:16] <diogenes_> i'd advice you to create a new user and try and see if everything wprks there
[16:16] <ilias_gr> diogenes: I am afraid so
[16:18] <ilias_gr> I just did  sudo apt install xubuntu-desktop and some files (6) were installed
[16:19] <diogenes_> why would you do that, xubuntu already comes with xfce :))
[16:20] <ilias_gr> Because I thought something is missing in my system
[16:21] <ilias_gr> I don't know I am confused
[16:21] <ilias_gr> I will try a reboot know.
[16:22] <diogenes_> then first create a new user see if that works, if not then i'm afraid only saint iGNUssius knows what you did and only a re-installation would help
[16:23] <pikapika> anyways after this thing
[16:23] <pikapika> I seriously need to write my own theme
[16:23] <pikapika> I don't know what is it with theme authors not overriding every required value but its incredibly annoying!
[16:30] <ilias_gr> Nothing changed. It stills log in a Xfce session.
[16:30] <pikapika> diogenes_, do you ever change the theme and notice that many theme authors fail to change all values and the result is well inconsistent? Example, say probably their previous theme while working on writing the new one already had a PRELIGHT background color for menus that is different to the default bg he uses for menus, so he forgets to change it. Someone installs it who happens to have had a theme previously whose PRELIGHT was the
[16:30] <pikapika> same as new themes current bg, and the result is of course not hard to guess: menu items look the same hovered or unhovered
[16:32] <diogenes_> pikapika, its because not many of them have been ported to gtk3 i still use older gtk2 and i'm happy with it
[16:33] <pikapika> Oh
[16:33] <pikapika> I see
[16:34] <diogenes_> pikapika, breeze should work fine though
[16:34] <pikapika> So is this choice between gtk2/3 purely the users (ie you can change it somewhere is system settings to only use gtk2) or is it the choice of the app developer?
[16:34] <pikapika> is it dark? I prefer dark themes
[16:34] <diogenes_> there is breeze-gtk and it has both dark and white
[16:34] <pikapika> But idk
[16:34] <pikapika> As I said
[16:35] <pikapika> the same apps that used to look fine in 16 looked broken in 18 with the same theme
[16:35] <pikapika> I am making do with another theme for the moment
[16:35] <diogenes_> pikapika, for instance if you got thunar 1.8, it's gtk3 so only gtk3 themes will work
[16:35] <diogenes_> and currently there aren't that many
[16:35] <pikapika> hmm so
[16:35] <pikapika> gtk 3 apps won't read the gtk-2.0 folder in theme?
[16:36] <pikapika> because I remember I made some edit to the themerc or some other file there
[16:36] <pikapika> and now thunar has the black background I chose there
[16:36] <pikapika> let me see which version of thunar I have
[16:36] <pikapika> ah
[16:36] <pikapika> Its 1.6
[16:36] <pikapika> I am guessing it probably uses gtk2
[16:36] <pikapika> Anyways
[16:37] <pikapika> is there any resource on writing themes, both for gtk2 and for gtk3?
[16:37] <pikapika> I wish to later write my own theme
[16:37] <pikapika> Its annoying finding and trying to fit others themes
[16:39] <diogenes_> it used to be long time ago but afaik there isn't anymore
[16:39] <diogenes_> but
[16:39] <diogenes_> you could ask in #xfce
[16:39] <diogenes_> there are the devs
[16:39] <pikapika> logged out logged in
[16:39] <pikapika> similar problems in breeze-gtk
[16:40] <pikapika> like buttons having no border nor background
[16:40] <pikapika> menu highlighted and menu normal item looking the same etc
[16:40] <diogenes_> try to removeany .gtk file if there is ny in /home
[16:40] <diogenes_> any*
[16:40] <pikapika> currently going back to the half-modified monster I made out of obsidian
[16:40] <pikapika> ah
[16:41] <pikapika> No .gtk file but a .gtkrc-2.0
[16:41] <diogenes_> yes
[16:41] <diogenes_> move it somewhere else
[16:41] <diogenes_> on desktoop
[16:41] <diogenes_> and re-log
[16:43] <pikapika> did that
[16:43] <pikapika> Same as before
[16:45] <diogenes_> weird
[16:45] <diogenes_> gotta a screshot?
[16:45] <diogenes_> screenshot*
[16:45] <pikapika> making one
[16:45] <pikapika> oh
[16:45] <pikapika> and squashed menus in xfce terminal
[16:45] <pikapika> funny
[16:45] <diogenes_> also pastebin the ls -a $HOME
[16:46] <pikapika> http://i.imgur.com/mTIUCTD.png
[16:47] <pikapika> diogenes_, these are the dotfiles present in home: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/KtDNSrSdPt/
[16:49] <diogenes_> try: ark-dark and adwaita-dark
[16:49] <pikapika> no highlight on active app in panel for example
[16:50] <pikapika> diogenes_, do you know anything that does not waste space with useless large paddings etc?
[16:51] <pikapika> I want a dark theme that is compact on screen size
[16:51] <pikapika> For example the WM theme I use has very think titlebars as you can see
[16:51] <pikapika> *thin
[16:51] <diogenes_> adwaita-dark and as for wm theme ark-dark
[16:51] <pikapika> Oh I am quite happy with my wm theme, that is something I do not wish to change
[16:52] <pikapika> Btw could it be I am installing themes the wrong way? I either unpack it in /usr/share/themes or drag the archive from file manager to the Appearance window
[16:53] <diogenes_> yes, i always unpack them to /usr/share/themes
[17:18] <pikapika> this one is better
[17:18] <pikapika> I still see the menu item highlight problem though
[17:21] <pikapika> But let me see if I can edit it myself somehow
[17:21] <pikapika> This is a VERY good base
[17:21] <diogenes_> which one is good base?
[17:22] <pikapika> adwaita dark
[17:22] <pikapika> as in rather close to what I wanted
[17:23] <diogenes_> yeah, for me it's the best :)
[17:23] <pikapika> Most importantly
[17:23] <pikapika> Buttons/panel icons selected or not state is very clearly and immediately distinguishable
[17:24] <pikapika> and the hexchat notification again looks very clear too, I don't think I did it well though. Can you ping my name in a few seconds for me to check that diogenes_?
[17:24] <diogenes_> ok
[17:25] <diogenes_> pikapika, ?
[17:25] <diogenes_> tell me when
[17:25] <pikapika> Yes
[17:25] <pikapika> It worked, and yeah I noticed, its nice
[17:25] <pikapika> Thanks for thep ing
[17:25] <pikapika> Nice ligh blue/black blinking
[17:25] <diogenes_> no problem :)
[17:25] <diogenes_> so if you edit it well
[17:25] <diogenes_> care to share the result
[17:25] <diogenes_> :)
[17:25] <pikapika> Sure <3
[17:26] <pikapika> Even though I don't know anything about this thing, I am just changing colors with names I am guessing are what I think they mean
[17:26]  * pikapika snuggles diogenes_ 
[17:27] <diogenes_> pikapika, that's how we all learn stuff, trial and fail antil it works :)
[17:28] <pikapika> Next thing I'll have to see is how I can force system to use freetype 2.6
[17:28] <pikapika> diogenes_, which ubuntu do you use?
[17:29] <pikapika> did you upgrade from 16 to 18 and did it mess up the fonts for you too?
[17:29] <diogenes_> pikapika, i'm using MX right now
[17:29] <pikapika> oh
[17:29] <pikapika> I have no idea how it relates to the "official" versions
[17:29] <pikapika> oh
[17:30] <pikapika> its a diff distro
[17:30] <pikapika> I see
[17:30] <diogenes_> yes bedian based
[17:30] <diogenes_> debian*
[17:31] <pikapika> Hmm, I see the menu highligh bg IS in fact diff but only very subtly and slightly
[17:31] <pikapika> I'll have to make the diff stronger
[17:31] <pikapika> And yes perfect amount of spacing
[17:32] <diogenes_> looks like you gonna have a sleepless night lol because i know myself, tweaking themes is way too much time consuming :)))
[17:32] <pikapika> lol
[17:32] <pikapika> I actually hate anything to do with colors/themes etc
[17:32] <pikapika> or sizes/layout whatever
[17:32] <pikapika> you know design type stuff
[17:32] <pikapika> I absolutely suck at it
[17:33] <pikapika> But theres no other option right now so lol
[17:33] <diogenes_> i know and sometimes we must do things we don't like hehe
[17:34] <diogenes_> look at it as to a positive experience
[17:34] <pikapika> And sometimes we do things we absolutely love, like snuggling with a cute boy :)
[17:34] <pikapika> But yes, I am trying to make the best out of it
[17:35] <diogenes_> lol in my case it would be snuggling with a cute girl XD
[17:35] <pikapika> Some boys are cuter than girls :P
[17:36] <diogenes_> lol
[17:40] <pikapika> hmm
[17:40] <pikapika> open/save dialogs etc are having problems
[17:40] <pikapika> I am guessing FF is gtk3?
[17:40] <diogenes_> afaik ff is not even gtk
[17:41] <diogenes_> pikapika, for ff you need a custom css to work with darjt hemes
[17:41] <diogenes_> it's a well knows bug
[17:41] <pikapika> lmao
[17:41] <pikapika> So
[17:41] <pikapika> well
[17:41] <pikapika> at least context menus are standard there I hope?
[17:42] <pikapika> I mean I see the right click menu changing style along with theme, to varying extents
[17:42] <diogenes_> wait i will provide the instructions
[17:42] <pikapika> chrome/userChrome.css?
[17:42] <diogenes_> yes
[17:42] <pikapika> Funny
[17:42] <pikapika> That file seems to be having no effect
[17:42] <pikapika> I even tried some examples from firefox site
[17:42] <pikapika> nope
[17:42] <diogenes_> it depends on the content
[17:42] <pikapika> In what sense?
[17:43] <pikapika> and
[17:43] <pikapika> I mean I am seeing similar problems in xfce4 terminal
[17:44] <diogenes_> pastebin: cat  ~/.mozilla/firefox/*.default/chrome/userContent.css
[17:45] <pikapika> https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/ZRwFKR59St/
[17:47] <diogenes_> pikapika, yeah that one should work
[17:47] <brainwash> that's not something you put in userContent.css
[17:47] <pikapika> Does not seem to unfortunately. The most easily visible change would be the lack of blue border over tabs
[17:48] <pikapika> but tabs still have blue borders
[17:48] <pikapika> What do you mean brainwash?
[17:48] <brainwash> that is userChrome.css
[17:48] <pikapika> and whats the diff between userContent.css and userChrome.css?
[17:48] <brainwash> and it's missing the header lines
[17:48] <pikapika> well
[17:48] <pikapika> I have the same contents copied to userChrome as well
[17:48] <diogenes_> for me it works with userContent
[17:48] <pikapika> I have both files with same content
[17:49] <diogenes_> i used to have black text on black textareas
[17:49] <diogenes_> and that trick fixed it
[17:49] <pikapika> so userContent is basically "default stylesheet" for web pages and chrome is for the interface?
[17:50] <brainwash> I only paid attention to the last lines
[17:50] <brainwash> .tabbrowser-tab .tab-loading-burst
[17:50] <brainwash> that's for userChrome
[17:52] <pikapika> I cleared the userContent.css and placed the last declaration in userChrome.css
[17:52] <pikapika> Still no change?
[17:52] <pikapika> (and yes, restarted FF)
[18:00] <pikapika> hmm brainwash diogenes_
[18:00] <pikapika> It seems you need this before or so an official kb article states:
[18:00] <pikapika>  * Do not remove the @namespace line -- it's required for correct functioning
[18:00] <pikapika>  */
[18:00] <pikapika> @namespace url("http://www.mozilla.org/keymaster/gatekeeper/there.is.only.xul"); /* set default namespace to XUL */
[18:02] <diogenes_> pikapika, so ut works now?
[18:02] <diogenes_> it*
[18:03] <pikapika> Let me try
[18:03] <brainwash> pikapika: that's for userChrome only I think
[18:03] <pikapika> yes
[18:03] <brainwash> >and it's missing the header lines
[18:03] <brainwash> I mentioned that
[18:12] <xubuntu03w> Hello i installed xubuntu in a device that comes with windows, and i want to change the windows button key
[18:13] <xubuntu03w> and put it in the menu
[18:16] <xubuntu03w> hello
[18:17] <brainwash> I don't quite understand
[18:18] <brainwash> maybe try to rephrase it
[18:18] <xubuntu03w> normal i explained very bad
[18:18] <xubuntu03w> sorry
[18:19] <brainwash> windows button key? a button and a key?
[18:19] <xubuntu03w> in windows when you pulse the windows button it opens a menu
[18:19] <xubuntu03w> and i want to do the same
[18:19] <brainwash> ah okay
[18:19] <brainwash> that is a bit tricky
[18:19] <xubuntu03w> ;)
[18:21] <xubuntu03w> can you help ,e ?
[18:21] <pikapika> oh
[18:21] <xubuntu03w> me*
[18:21] <pikapika> do you mean
[18:21] <pikapika> you press the win key
[18:21] <pikapika> and it should open the main menu right?
[18:21] <xubuntu03w> yes
[18:21] <pikapika> Thats easy I think
[18:21] <xubuntu03w> how can i do it?
[18:22] <pikapika> Settings -> Keyboard -> Application Shortcuts
[18:22] <pikapika> There should be something like whisker menu popup
[18:22] <xubuntu03w> i did that
[18:22] <pikapika> and still not working?
[18:22] <xubuntu03w> and didnt see that
[18:23] <pikapika> oh
[18:23] <pikapika> I think you need to add a new one then
[18:23] <xubuntu03w> i tried it
[18:23] <brainwash> https://xfce.space/en/2017/12/xfce-and-the-super-key/
[18:23] <pikapika> xfce4-popup-whiskermenu
[18:23] <pikapika> add one with this command
[18:23] <xubuntu03w> ok
[18:24] <xubuntu03w> it works
[18:24] <xubuntu03w> thanks
[18:24] <xubuntu03w> for curiosity
[18:24] <xubuntu03w> where i can find the commands?
[18:25] <pikapika> Which method did you use?
[18:25] <xubuntu03w> all of them
[18:25] <pikapika> I believe that command is well just a normal command as you'd enter into a shell
[18:25] <xubuntu03w> i went to the keyboard, after to application shortcuts and then i created a new shortcut with the comand that gave me
[18:25] <pikapika> I typed it into a normal terminal and it opened the whisker menu just the same
[18:26] <pikapika> So these are probably just normal terminal commands for those actions
[18:26] <xubuntu03w> ah ok
[18:26] <xubuntu03w> thanks
[18:26]  * pikapika snugs xubuntu03w 
[18:26] <pikapika> :)
[18:26] <xubuntu03w> and  sorry for the inconveniences ;)
[18:27] <Toocool> Happy St Paddy's day everyone! I am running xubuntu and twice now my computer has the following boot error: gave up waiting for suspend/resume device
[18:27] <Toocool> Failed to claim resource : 16
[18:42] <pikapika> brainwash, its very picky
[18:42] <pikapika> border-top for tabs its not taking
[18:42] <pikapika> but tab background color is working ifne
[18:43] <pikapika> address bar background also isn't having any effect
[18:47] <brainwash> you have to do it properly
[18:47] <brainwash> what is your source?
[18:47] <brainwash> it may be outdated
[18:48] <pikapika> Uh just finding the element class from full console and changing its styles in the css
[18:48] <brainwash> okay
[18:48] <brainwash> with !important ?
[18:48] <pikapika> Yes
[18:48] <brainwash> you don't want firefox to override your changes
[18:48] <brainwash> okay
[18:50] <brainwash> if you want someone to look over it, I suggest joining the mozilla IRC server
[18:50] <brainwash> and ask there
[18:50] <pikapika> Alright, thanks
[19:13] <pikapika> Does anyone know how I would go about installing an older version of freetype?
[19:16] <pikapika> Apparently either a newer or an older version from the one in buntu 18 will work
[19:16] <pikapika> I am trying at least to finish the first step of building the freetype
[19:16] <pikapika> I elect to go with the newer for now
[19:17] <pikapika> But how would I replace (and appropriately mark) this fact for apt, and then make it 'hold' status?
[19:18] <pikapika> Wow that downloaded fast
[20:41] <xubuntu80w> Hello, I'm having trouble getting shared folders to work, Windows 10 host, Virtualbox 6.0, Xubuntu 18, is it really that hard or am I missing something, thanks
[20:42] <xubuntu80w> xubuntu-18.04.2-desktop-amd64
[20:44] <xubuntu80w> the Guest Additions are working, I set the folders in Virtualbox, but I don't know why so much special commands need to be run from terminal to get it working, thanks for any ideas to try
[20:49] <xubuntu80w> when I type groups $user I do not see vboxsf, what does that mean
[20:54] <xubuntu80w> I see a lot have this problem, but I wonder if there's a simple solution I'm overlooking, thanks
[22:38] <lastc> Hello everyone! I'm new to xfce (just moved from KDE) and I'm wondering if there's a way to enable hot corners on Xubuntu, like the ones from plasma