[12:58] Hi. I installed the latest development build with kernel 5.0.0.7, and am unable to login. After about a second after entering the password, I'm back at login [12:59] Currently in tty3 to get weechat running, can anyone give any troubleshooting tips? [12:59] try nomodeset [12:59] !nomodeset [12:59] A common kernel (boot)parameter is nomodeset, which is needed for some graphic cards that otherwise boot into a black screen or show corrupted splash screen. See http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1613132 on how to use this parameter [13:01] Hmm, okay. I've actually used nomodeset before, but then I didn't get passed Grub, and I was under the impression that the Nvidia drivers would be carried over to the new install. Thanks! [13:12] I tried nomodeset and nouveau.modeset=0, but I still couldn't log in [13:19] And updating from nvidia-390 to nvidia-410 did not help. Are there any logs I could check to get some indication about the culprit? [13:39] Peppep, /var/log/syslog [13:51] gsd-keyboard fatal io error 11, gsd-media-keys fatal io error 11 etc [13:55] Unrecoverable failture in required component org.gnome.Shell.desktop. I know it's not much, and I'm trying to search other places, but I included a few of the errors here in case they are common and fixable [14:03] Peppep, did you update and upgrade while in the VT/TTY? [14:09] BluesKaj: The nvidia driver? Yes. Is that something I shouldn't do? :/ [14:11] But it doesn't seem to be running. When I do lshw c -video, the driver seems to be the Intel one for the integrated GPU (on Dell XPS 9560), not the Nvidia card [14:11] running/loaded* [14:13] Peppep, I sudo apt update && sudo apt upgrade ..all packages [14:13] meant [14:13] Oh, yeah, I did that as well. There wasn't anything to upgrade [14:13] bummer [14:17] definitely a hardware problem alright, dunno if the 410 nvidia driver is the corect one for your gpu if the 390 was the recommended driver in ubuntu-drivers... try, sudo ubuntu-drivers list [14:18] 390 was the recommended one for 18.10 I believe, when I ran "ubuntu-drivers devices" 410 was recommended [14:18] On 19.04 [14:53] BluesKaj: Any other ideas? I'm close to reinstalling 18.10 now. :/ [14:55] did some googling, but couldn't find anything applicable Peppep ...maybe 18.10 will work for you, altho it's more buggy than 18.04LTS [14:57] The only theory I have is that some of the customizations I did to GNOME on 18.10 is incompatible with 19.04. But I don't know if it could cause fatal errors like this [14:57] Since a lot of the syslog messages are related to GNOME [14:58] which gnome customizations, like tweak or themes or? [15:00] Mostly dash to dock, alttab changes etc. And I updated dash to dock from v17 to v19 because they added GNOME 3.32 support, so that shouldn't be it. But I had like 5-6 extensions [15:01] not a gnome user so that's not my strong suit [15:09] Tried deleting .gnome and .config/dconf/user in case it's related to the manual config. Fingers crossed. Thanks for the patience in any case [15:12] * BluesKaj crosses fingers [15:12] Re 18.04 vs 18.10... I upgraded from 18.10 which was stable for me. I had to do nomodeset and a few other fixes initially, and I had to restart the network-manager service a few times, but overall I was happy [15:12] ok [15:12] But yeah, I could give 18.04LTS a shot in case it works perfectly out of the box [15:12] Since it seems that I have to do a reinstall [15:13] it's more mature and it receives more devel attention [15:14] Yeah. Unfortunately I tend to run latest/beta versions of everything which sometimes causes hours and hours of troubleshooting like today :p [15:15] Android Beta, Chrome Dev, Ubuntu 19.04 etc etc. And I'm not developing for any of those platforms, so I don't really have a good reason, other than wanting to have the newest stuff all the time [15:15] well, if you like more edge then by all means Peppep [15:17] In general, I do. But I'll use 18.04 until 19.04's official release. Then I'll do a live-boot before giving it another shot ;) [15:18] Anyway, thanks again! [15:18] BluesKaj++ [15:19] Hmm. Isn't there a karma system here? Crap [15:19] hehe [15:20] ;) [15:21] loooooool [15:21] After giving up [15:21] Doing the final reboot [15:21] It worked [15:22] I'm officially on 19.04 [15:23] coolness! [15:23] being offficially on 19.04 is unlikely at this date, unless you can time travel [15:24] (but i'm glad you succeeded in fixing this issue) [15:31] I'm not on official 19.04, I'm officially on (a) 19.04 (build) [15:31] ;) [15:31] cool :) just making sure you're aware [15:35] Oh, I'm way too aware, just spent hours troubleshooting since there's basically no possibilities of finding anyone else with similar issues at this stage. [15:37] And for future reference, it was either the Intel driver (since I re-enabled my Nvidia card) or GNOME customizations from 18.10. Will disable to nvidia card again now to further narrow it down [15:39] gnome shell extensions are a good way to break gnome(-shell). generally, also on supported releases, use them at your own risk. [15:39] and surely disable them before anything else if there are any issues. [15:40] Ah. I expected that they could cause issues, but not as fatally as this (stuck on login-screen) [15:40] Was planning on disabling them before upgrading, but forgot about it, lol [15:54] So my fingerprint reader is recognized in lsusb now (Bus 001 Device 003: ID 138a:0091 Validity Sensors, Inc. VFS7552 Touch Fingerprint Sensor) [15:55] And I've enabled fingerprint auth in sudo pam-auth-update. But it still doesn't show up under Users. :/ [16:00] according to https://launchpad.net/~fingerprint/+archive/ubuntu/fingerprint-gui and https://fprint.freedesktop.org/supported-devices.html, your "138a:0091 " is not there [16:10] Ah :/ [16:12] also https://www.dell.com/community/Linux-Developer-Systems/XPS-13-Fingerprint-reader-Linux-support/td-p/5090723 [16:13] but then, fingerprint readers are not a safe authentication mechanism anyways. ;-) [16:14] a token or jubikey is my best access [16:15] or choose a password larger than 16 characters.. most rainbowtables stop there [16:20] I didn't bother with fingerprint authentication on the Dell laptop [16:22] my fingertips are almost calloused anyway ... drumsticks will do that [16:24] Sometimes convenience wins over security unfortunately. But I'm getting there, step by step. Voluntarily by going from Windows to Linux, involuntarily by not being able to use fingerprints [16:26] As of now, fp auth is pretty much the only thing Win10 wins on. Otherwise Ubuntu has better battery life, faster boot (and especially resume from sleep) ++ [16:27] https://github.com/hmaarrfk/Validity91 is probably your best bet [16:29] 112x112 pixels, i wonder how brute forceable that is. [16:29] and unencrypted .. [16:37] Is 112x112 a hardware limitation or just what they've been able to get so far? If the former, I agree, that's way more insecure than I was aware of [16:41] 180 x 256 pixels is more regular, mind that it should be encrypted before sending too [16:56] BluesKaj tomreyn: It was the GNOME settings. I disabled the Nvidia card and the Intel drivers runs without issues [16:57] Peppep, good stuff! [17:04] The power consumption in 19.04 is even lower than in 18.10. Discharge rate at 3.9W-4.9W running weechat and powertop [17:08] And wifi performence seems to be improved. Happy camper so far. [17:08] Anyway, gtg, thanks guys! [17:40] Hello is the option for minimal installs still available in 1904? I didn't see it in my VM. [17:45] not in tasksel, only in ubiquity [17:48] Oh yes sorry I forgot to copy that. I'll go try it out again.. [18:44] The power consumption in 19.04 is even lower than in 18.10. Discharge rate at 3.9W-4.9W running weechat and powertop [18:44] nice [18:44] maybe that is also because of Gnome Shell efficiency [18:45] Is there a way to reboot everything except the kernel? [18:45] Important would be not to unmount /any/ file systems [18:46] to be more precise: boot live CD, do apt dist-upgrade and then reload everything (except kernel) so that the state if the live session stay intact (installed packets, settings in /home/ubuntu etc.) [18:52] Why was gnome-books not in Ubuntu before? [18:52] finally a reader that enables one to read epub without eyes hurting