[05:47] <xubuntu35w> hello
[05:48] <xubuntu35w> anyone there? i need some help
[10:59] <xubuntu31i> hi
[10:59] <xubuntu31i> i hv boot menu problem
[11:00] <xubuntu31i> after installing dual boot windows 10 and xubuntu 18...
[11:00] <diogenes_> xubuntu31i, what is the problem exactly?
[11:00] <xubuntu31i> boot menu never show up
[11:00] <xubuntu31i> it will start xubuntu
[11:01] <diogenes_> xubuntu31i, so it starts xubuntu and doesn't show windows?
[11:01] <xubuntu31i> yup
[11:01] <xubuntu31i> no boot menu  option
[11:01] <diogenes_> xubuntu31i, open terminal and run: sudo update-grub2
[11:02] <diogenes_> see if it listed windows there
[11:02] <xubuntu31i> or grup i think
[11:02] <xubuntu31i> no
[11:03] <diogenes_> ok run: lsblk | nc termbin.com 9999
[11:03] <xubuntu31i> i mean i tried sudo update-grub not sudo update-grub2
[11:03] <diogenes_> share the link
[11:03] <xubuntu31i> ok thank you
[11:35] <thorr66> Good morning
[13:15] <vp11> I'm still having random freeze issues with my Xubuntu LTS
[13:16] <vp11> using kernel 4.18.0-16... I think I will try updating the kernel to a newest version and pray to Stallman
[13:17] <vp11> what's the kernel version on current Xubuntu 18.10? Or where should I go to download the latest kernel that has been tested for Ubuntu/Xubuntu?
[13:35] <ilias_gr> hi all. does anyone maybe know how can i change panel's battery icon?
[13:42] <diogenes_> by changing the icon in the icon theme
[13:51] <ilias_gr> diogenes_: sure. but although I use another icon theme the icon remains the same. I cannot find which icon theme 'reads' to change it. Any idea?
[13:52] <brainwash> vp11: you can use this site https://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/
[13:52] <brainwash> vp11: for kernel related questions I suggest joining #ubuntu-kernel
[13:55] <brainwash> ilias_gr: you could search for "battery-" in /usr/share/themes/
[13:57] <diogenes_> ilias_gr, what battery plugin you use?
[13:57] <ilias_gr> brainwash: i did it already. Too many results. I found that although I change icon themes the battery icon remains the same.
[13:57] <ilias_gr> diogenes_: I am using the icon provided by the application
[13:58] <ilias_gr> diogenes_: there is an option for system tray
[13:58] <diogenes_> ilias_gr, there are 2 of them, battery monitor and power manager plugin
[14:00] <ilias_gr> diogenes_: I opened the application 'Power Manager' and under appearance there is an option to show the icon in system tray. I enabled it.
[14:00] <diogenes_> ilias_gr, then disable that one from power manager and add the power manager plugin
[14:01] <diogenes_> maybe that's the reason
[14:01] <ilias_gr> diogenes_: I prefered because the icon of power manager plugin is dynamic and i cannot edit it at all
[14:02] <diogenes_> what do you mean dynamic? it's basically the same, plugin is even better because you can adjust brightness with your mouse wheel.
[14:02] <Spass> ilias_gr, some icon themes have those dynamic icons, like elementary-xfce, so it depends on what theme are you using
[14:02] <ilias_gr> diogenes_: I mean tha if i use dark theme is white and vice versa
[14:03] <Spass> Papirus and Numix also should have those
[14:03] <ilias_gr> Spass: I use Faenza, but this icon does not change at all
[14:05] <diogenes_> ilias_gr, try a new user, seems like a config issue.
[14:05] <ilias_gr> diogenes_: I am coming from a new fresh installation
[14:05] <Spass> Faenza is pretty old, you may try to add another icon theme to the "Inherits=" in its index.theme
[14:06] <ilias_gr> Spass: I tried system's elementary icon theme and the icon does not be changed
[14:07] <diogenes_> ilias_gr, maybe a gtk-update-icon-cache /usr/share/icons/hicolor is needed?
[14:08] <Spass> I think Xubuntu uses that second panel plugin, that you don't use, with dynamic icons, and elementary should have those
[14:08] <Spass> by default
[14:08] <ilias_gr> Spass: If i could find what set of icons is linked to this icon maybe I could change them using faenza set
[14:09] <Spass> like I said, you could try adding that default battery plugin again and add Inherits to Faenza, so Faenza should pull those missing icons from elementary-xfce-dark
[14:12] <ilias_gr> Spass: Inherits is is an icon set?
[14:13] <Spass> what Faenza version are you using exactly? Dark? Darker? normal?
[14:13] <ilias_gr> Normal
[14:13] <ilias_gr> with default graybird theme
[14:16] <Spass> well, normal "Faenza" has dark panel icons, so it's a bad choice to use that with Greybird (dark panel), maybe change to "Faenza-Dark" in the Appearance settings first
[14:17] <Spass> od -Darker
[14:17] <Spass> *or -Darker
[14:18] <brainwash> ilias_gr: those are the files used by the classic tray icon https://packages.ubuntu.com/bionic/all/xfce4-power-manager-data/filelist
[14:19] <ilias_gr> Spass: Yes you have right. But I live with this for year now. If i could make the battery icon also like other it would be fine.
[14:20] <Spass> so you want that battery icon to be black/dark or white/light? it's confusing why you're using icon theme for light panels on a dark one
[14:21] <ilias_gr> brainwash: that is a good step. I already changed scalable icons but failed to change the icon. Maybe to I have to change 32X32 or  48X48?
[14:22] <ilias_gr> Spass: Give a moment to show you a screeshot of how my panel is right now.
[14:22] <Spass> that would be helpful, thanks
[14:23] <Warden2048> Hey this probably isn't xubuntu specific, but I do use xubuntu on all of my systems
[14:23] <Warden2048> I tried to force enable hardware acceleration in firefox, but it doesn't seem to be working, anyone know if this is a common bug? Using intel hd 3000
[14:25] <brainwash> Warden2048: how can you tell that it does not work?
[14:25] <brainwash> ilias_gr: maybe you have to do that
[14:26] <ilias_gr> https://pasteboard.co/I5QE0qa.png
[14:26] <Warden2048> @brainwash I check CPU usage when trying to watch 720p and 1080p video on YouTube
[14:26] <brainwash> ilias_gr: I don't think that the scalable versions are being used
[14:26] <Warden2048> And it ends up using 40-80% CPU
[14:26] <brainwash> right
[14:26] <ilias_gr> brainwash: ok. 32X32 or 48X48 ?
[14:26] <brainwash> Warden2048: hardware acceleration is not hardware accelerated video decoding
[14:27] <brainwash> Warden2048: and firefox for linux lacks that
[14:27] <Warden2048> Usually that is included with hardware acceleration, I have observed this on Firefox on my Nvidia based system
[14:27] <brainwash> it's not
[14:27] <Warden2048> Or maybe the CPU is so good that I don't notice lol
[14:27] <brainwash> probably
[14:27] <Warden2048> Does Chromium have hardware acceleration for video?
[14:27] <brainwash> it does have experimental support I think
[14:28] <brainwash> but you would have to use a special build
[14:28] <brainwash> best to google that
[14:28] <Spass> ok ilias_gr, you can also try this if you feeling adventurous - left Alt+F2 and paste that command there "pkexec mousepad /usr/share/icons/Faenza/index.theme"
[14:28] <Spass> it should open Mousepad text editor with root access to the config file
[14:29] <Spass> 3rd line is "Inherits=gnome,hicolor"
[14:29] <Spass> you can change it to "Inherits=elementary-xfce,gnome,hicolor" and save
[14:30] <vp11> thanks brainwash
[14:30] <Spass> then change icon theme to another one and back to Faenza (maybe logging out will be required to see the changes)
[14:30] <vp11> gonna check that out, although I really don't have questions related to linux kernel, I just want my xubuntu to stop freezing and I don't know what else it might be so I will try updating the kernel now
[14:30] <ilias_gr> Spass: I will do it accessing the file through Thunar (as root) and I backup a copy first
[14:34] <brainwash> vp11: but you may have questions regarding how to debug the (kernel) issue
[14:35] <ilias_gr> Spass: It didn't work
[14:36] <Spass> well, like I said, restart may be required to see the changes, you could also try to update the icon cache using "sudo gtk-update-icon-cache -f /usr/share/icons/Faenza"
[14:37] <Spass> and if that would not help I don't have any more ideas other that adding additional icons to the Faenza theme by hand
[14:43] <ilias_gr> Spass: Yes. I am trying to.
[14:45] <diogenes_> ilias_gr, maybe a part of the problem is panel size too? maybe you need to make it larger?
[14:46] <ilias_gr> for the moment i will try to change to faenza dark or darker. maybe i will receive a better result
[15:05] <ilias_gr> Much better now I think https://pasteboard.co/I5QTGZt.png. I only have to find the exact color of the panel I prefer better. Something gray not black.
[15:11] <Spass> great
[15:15] <ilias_gr> thanks. which application is alternative to unetbootin for bionic?
[15:17] <Spass> you can use "usb-creator-gtk" (in the repos) or Etcher
[15:19] <Spass> "gnome-disk-utility" has that option also
[15:20] <ilias_gr> Spass: I have already installed disk-utility so it's fine
[15:23] <ilias_gr> thank you.
[16:04] <pikapika> also diogenes_
[16:04] <pikapika> The next release I am going to straight away go with the xubuntu and reinstall and reconfigure
[16:04] <pikapika> Having to install various extra and possibly even dangerously conflicting packages and then cleaning them up is scary
[16:05] <diogenes_> pikapika, good luck :) don't forget about backup
[16:05] <pikapika> Of course
[16:59] <pikapika> diogenes_, I've finally been able to make some concrete changes to the themes
[16:59] <pikapika> This time I am starting in a more methodical manner
[16:59] <diogenes_> pikapika, told you it's gonna take days lol
[16:59] <pikapika> Ditching the old dysfunctional theme and starting using the working and standard Greybird theme as base
[17:00] <pikapika> Copied it from /usr/share/themes to ~/.themes, renamed it and was able to reduce menu item padding succesfully
[17:00] <pikapika> So that is a concrete step
[17:00] <pikapika> Now to change the colors etc to turn it into the old theme except of course
[17:00] <pikapika> This will work well on both gtk2 and 3
[17:01] <pikapika> And yes
[17:01] <pikapika> I will publish it once its finished
[17:01] <pikapika> And the WM theme is Numix which too I modified the xpm files to have 16px instead of 26px titlebars
[17:02] <pikapika> So when its done, I'll combine replace the metacity directory of my experimental theme with the modified Numix
[17:02] <pikapika> Thus it will be a unified theme ready for use by anyone
[17:03] <pikapika> I'm gonna solve this theming bullshit once and for all no matter what now
[17:03] <diogenes_> pikapika, you can give it a new name and publish it on github
[17:03] <diogenes_> so people might get involved and cotribue
[17:04] <pikapika> Of course
[17:05] <pikapika> My problem always has been this
[17:06] <priuon> Hi there. How can I configure my system to boot without hiding the boot process and not running xfce on startup, just starting to text (tty1)
[17:06] <priuon> I am on bionic.
[17:07] <diogenes_> priuon, yes, remove quiet from grub linux line
[17:07] <pikapika> Standard themes work quite well and are error free but not quite to my liking; I can find some non-standard themes over the internet but they always have errors and incosistencies so I was never wholly satisfied with whatever theme I had. This attempt of mine should solve that problem for good. It will also have two characteristics that are quite sought after, namely, dark coloration and being compact in terms of screen size wasted; so
[17:07] <pikapika> I think its publication is going to be immediately beneficial to a lot of people
[17:09] <priuon> diogenes_: I'll check and reboot
[17:09] <diogenes_> pikapika, yes of course, you did a great job so sharing is caring :)
[17:10]  * pikapika hugs diogenes_ 
[17:10] <pikapika> :)
[17:11]  * diogenes_ hugs back pikapika 
[17:11] <pikapika> :)
[17:11] <pikapika> Also
[17:12] <pikapika> Is the lockscreen not always being able to show the login prompt back a known issue in 18.04?
[17:12] <pikapika> light locker
[17:12] <pikapika> Sometimes it does take keyboard input in the password screen but of course with the monitor off
[17:12] <diogenes_> i personally use lockmore-gl instead of light-locker
[17:12] <pikapika> and if the password is correct it unlocks and shows whatever was there as normal
[17:12] <pikapika> But sometimes
[17:13] <pikapika> Nothing, no keyboard press or mouse movement seems to able to wake it from this state
[17:13] <pikapika> except for ctr+fn and ctrl+f7ing
[17:13] <pikapika> After which it shows a message roughly indicating that its in the process of showing the unlock screen please wait a few seconds
[17:13] <pikapika> Then it shows the normal login screen
[17:13] <pikapika> For now I am replacing it with the jwz xlock
[17:14] <pikapika> But if no bug report exists already for this I am going to file one
[17:16] <pikapika> Whose idea was it to replace the perfectly functional jwz locker with this error filled one?
[17:16] <diogenes_> haha you asking that in a way like you are holding a shotgun in your hands XD
[17:16] <priuon> removing the quiet statement from /etc/default/grub and running update-grub didn't change the way it booted :(
[17:17] <diogenes_> priuon, what exactly is the expected behavior?
[17:17] <pikapika> Oh lol I am not
[17:17] <pikapika> I was just thinking
[17:17] <pikapika> I mean as I said
[17:18] <pikapika> the bug of the lockscreen freezing
[17:18] <priuon> diogenes_: I want to see the boot process and I want the system to boot to tty/text so no dm is loaded
[17:18]  * pikapika hugs everyone who contributed to Xubuntu
[17:19] <priuon> diogenes_: you know the process where it shows the modules loading with the green Oks appearing in each line
[17:20] <diogenes_> priuon, try this: sudo systemctl disable plymouth and add Single to grub linux line
[17:20] <diogenes_> and it should boot into the single user mode
[17:20] <diogenes_> then update-initramfs -u
[17:20] <diogenes_> and update-grub
[17:23] <priuon> okay I think I found out how to do it without changing something with plymouth
[17:23] <priuon> What is the command to run xfce4 after booting then? Does start lightdm still work?
[17:24] <diogenes_> startxfce4
[17:24] <diogenes_> it's a script
[17:24] <priuon> Okay. I'll try
[18:10] <olograph> Hi guys, how do I setup raid 10 from xubuntu temp environment?
[18:38] <qwebirc51958> hi everyone