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taimoorHello gentlemen :)00:48
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lordievaderGood morning07:17
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BluesKajHowdy folks10:21
yuradochello. may somebody has some advice. i use kde plasma on kubuntu 18.10. I have problem with descktop icons. Mostly I use external desktop, but when I use laptop desktop only - icons on desktop not clickable10:22
yuradoconly way for me to make them work is to change resolution and revert it10:23
yuradocwhen i use external desktop - everything OK10:24
meventhis sounds like a bug to me or at best a misconfiguration10:25
mevenWhen you have the external screen, do you use the laptop screen too ?10:25
yuradocno10:26
yuradoconly external10:26
BluesKajsounds like a stealing focus issue10:27
mevenit could, but what would steal the desktop icons i.e folder view the focus10:28
yuradocalso interesting that there is scrollbar on desktop10:29
yuradocbecause icons not fit in10:30
mevenAt least one issue here seems that the desktop icons (i.e the folder view) does not resize according to the screen resolution change10:30
BluesKajwhat about icons in the panel, do they respond?10:30
yuradocyes10:30
yuradockdemenu too10:31
yuradocmenu on right click work too10:31
yuradocfew mins. i'll try to restart. made some experiment10:31
BluesKajok, what if you change from folder view to desktop view10:32
BluesKajthen add your fav icons to the desktop view10:34
BluesKajoops10:34
yuradocguys I found the reason!!!10:37
yuradocicons not fit in visible desktop part10:38
yuradocwhen i moved them to the visible part, scrollbar disappear10:39
yuradocafter restart icons start be visible10:40
BluesKajok, what if you change from folder view to desktop view, then add your fav icons to the desktop view10:40
yuradocsorruy i mean clickable10:40
BluesKajok difference in resolution  between screens10:41
yuradocfolder view to desktop view - don't understand10:41
BluesKajin context menu on the desktop, configure desktop10:43
BluesKajright click on the desktop10:43
yuradocno icons at all10:44
yuradocdisappear10:44
BluesKajexactly, now add your favorite icons to it10:44
yuradocwhat the difference?10:46
BluesKajI just use quicklaunch in the panel, no icons at all on any desktop, but that's my choice10:46
BluesKajquicklaunch widget in the panel10:46
yuradocbeetween folderand desktop view10:46
yuradoc*folder and10:47
BluesKajthat way no icons are hidden by open apps10:47
yuradocquicklaunch - i undrstand - textv=box where you can run command10:48
yuradoci did place firefox and it's not movable in that view10:49
BluesKajlike so: https://imagebin.ca/v/4abX0spe0x7P10:49
BluesKajsee the icons beside the kmenu? that's quicklaunch10:51
BluesKajwidget10:51
yuradocaah cool10:51
BluesKajyou can place as many icons there as you want10:52
yuradocsome grid10:52
yuradocthanks, intesting idea10:52
yuradocbut what is diffrence flder vs desktop?10:53
yuradoc*folder10:53
yuradocview10:53
BluesKajno need to minimize apps to see the icons on the desktop10:53
BluesKajdesktop is just my preference, makes it easier to choose etc10:54
yuradoci see that icons not movable in that view10:54
BluesKajdesktop view that is10:54
BluesKajmovable, how?10:55
yuradoci can't move it on desktop10:55
BluesKajI have no icons on the desktop only in the quicklaunch10:56
yuradocok10:56
BluesKajit's something to consider10:56
yuradocthank you for info10:56
BluesKajwell, it's an alternative10:57
BluesKajthis is linux, no need go the Windows way IMO10:58
yuradocyes'10:58
BluesKajif you choose quicklaunch you can place it on the right or left side of the panel, just drag it to where you want it10:59
yuradocyes, great idea11:00
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BluesKajthen add your icons by right clicking on the quicklaunch and choose your icon from the menu that appears11:02
Bundestrojanerhello. the latest kubuntu-update (16.04 LTS) installed a new kernel (4.4.0-143) and broke something (I guess X-server-related). With 4.4.0-143, KDE doesn't start any more.11:33
BundestrojanerIf i enter the grub-menu and choose the old 4.4.0-142, everything works11:33
dp__hi11:35
* boingo-00 testing irc11:38
boingo-00Message11:38
BluesKajyes, bobby we see you11:39
BluesKajoops11:39
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IrcsomeBotvishnuchandrappan was added by: vishnuchandrappan13:23
IrcsomeBot<vishnuchandrappan> Hello everyone, I have some issue with my laptop.. It's having Ubuntu 18.04 with kde13:24
IrcsomeBot<vishnuchandrappan> System just boots up to a blank screen with just mouse pointer... The pointer can be moved around...13:25
IrcsomeBot<vishnuchandrappan> I tried logging in using CLI and I found these...13:26
IrcsomeBot<vishnuchandrappan> (Photo, 1280x720) https://irc-attachments.kde.org/jpor0vFP/file_14074.jpg13:26
IrcsomeBot<vishnuchandrappan> (Photo, 720x1280) https://irc-attachments.kde.org/zK5e1kJf/file_14075.jpg13:26
IrcsomeBot<vishnuchandrappan> sddm-greeter is using 100% cpu... Any one know how to fix this... ? … Thanks in advance13:27
diogenes_vishnuchandrappan, i'd start troulbleshooting woth new user creation and log in as new user13:28
IrcsomeBot<vishnuchandrappan> What is this sddm-greeter and why is it using 100% CPU ?13:29
diogenes_it's the thing you see right before you see your desktop13:29
IrcsomeBot<vishnuchandrappan> Ok13:30
BluesKajvishnuchandrappan, most likely it's because kd/plasma is loading everything in the background getting the desktop ready13:30
IrcsomeBot<vishnuchandrappan> It has been a long time...  … I waited for long... Nothing is happening13:31
BluesKajI'm sure it drops to normal after login13:31
IrcsomeBot<vishnuchandrappan> I tried logging in with cli and switching to GUI, but that doesn't worked...13:32
BluesKajoh so you can't login ?13:32
IrcsomeBot<vishnuchandrappan> I can but only with cli13:33
BluesKajsudo systemctl enable sddm, then, sudo systemctl start sddm ?13:35
IrcsomeBot<vishnuchandrappan> Let me try once13:36
BluesKajyou will probly need to reboot13:43
Greenfroghi, i'm running kubuntu 18.04 all icons an menu items work except discover. it wont open either by icon or menu. how do i fix this?13:47
BluesKajGreenfrog, discover can be buggy, i use muon as a reference then I install thru the cli13:50
Greenfrogok i'll try that thanks :)13:51
BluesKajmuon is much better for info than discover13:51
Greenfrogok guess its just buggy it has worked before but i've had alot of reboots since. thanks again13:53
BluesKajmuon should work fine for you, it installs packages if you wish of course13:53
Greenfroggreat. just looking for something that works :)13:54
IrcsomeBot<vishnuchandrappan> @BluesKaj, That didn't work... I just switched to gdm3 (already installed). It'd working fine... I then tried reconfigure sddm but nothing is changed13:57
BluesKajso you're runing ubuntu then, not kubuntu?13:59
BluesKajkubuntu uses sddm, ubuntu still uses gdm or lightdm, I can't recall which one14:00
BluesKajvishnuchandrappan ^14:00
IrcsomeBot<vishnuchandrappan> I installed kde explicitely...  … It was going fine since yesterday... Don't know what happend14:16
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BluesKajwere you on ubuntu previously tho?14:18
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BluesKajthen installed kubuntu-desktop and plasma?14:20
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R13oseHow do I convert a .webarchive to an image file?  This person can't convert to anything else and I don't know how to do this properly on my distro15:32
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FourFireHello again16:38
FourFireI have made my linux install fail to boot (it boots to black screen, going to virtual terminals is also completely black) after partially configuring vfio (iGPU passthrough) on my AMD CPU with iGPU only laptop16:40
FourFireHow do I fix this to make my laptop boot into Kubuntu 18.04.2 like normal again?16:41
FourFireI'm in the grub settings now16:41
diogenes_FourFire, what happened that it stopped booting normally?16:43
FourFireI had a system wide freeze (which occasionally happens on the AMD Ryzen CPUs with iGPU) after having edited and saved some config file to do with vfio16:45
FourFireI don't believe the freeze was cause by my edit and I was following a guide (which I can't easily find again right now)16:45
FourFirewhen I rebooted, black screen16:46
FourFireI think the iGPU which is the only GPU in the system is being blocked from linux using it to save it for use of a VM16:46
FourFireI was trying to configure GPU passthrough for a windows VM when my system froze16:47
FourFireFound the guide: https://gist.github.com/TomFaulkner/389e8e2e9525e11afe2e775355954cdf16:49
FourFireI got to an performed the step titled "Modprobe"16:49
kubkdeDid you blacklist nouveau?16:50
FourFireI don't know that I did16:51
kubkdeCan you share a picture of your GRUB16:51
FourFireit's an AMD gpu I had the open source drivers installed16:51
kubkdeYeah. I do know a lot of guides out there (unrelated to VFIO) suggest blacklisting nouveau for optimal performance. It's actually detrimental for you because you need your open source nouveau drivers to run your host system so your AMD GPU can run natively16:52
kubkdeIn any case if you can't get a picture through try adding nouveau.modeset=0 and/or radeon.modeset=0 to your GRUB. Do either, and if neither work, just go with nomodeset16:53
FourFireI'll try to upload right now16:54
BluesKajnouveau? that's a default 'buntu driver nvidia16:54
kubkdeYes, but because nouveau attempts to load at boot and some hardware isn't able to handle that, X11 fails to start16:54
BluesKajnever seen that16:55
kubkdeIt was supposed to make stuff look nice, but it just breaks things16:55
kubkdeSo what nomodeset does is it prevents the drivers from loading at boot, allowing your system to boot normally. If FourFire didn't blacklist noouveau drivers he should be fine, although I don't know how his vfio settings will affect this (and I've been trying to get it working myself with a Intel GPU/Nvidia GPU)16:56
BluesKaj hmm, /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist.conf doesn't blacklist nouveau here, and I'm on an intel gpu16:57
FourFireI don't think I specifically blacklisted any drivers16:57
FourFireso once i do boot into linux, is there anything more I need to do to fix it besides delete the lines added by the guide and update-grub?16:58
FourFireBoot hangs in the same way with either of those three options17:08
FourFireLast line is "vfio-pci 0000:05:00.0: vgaarb: changed VGA decodes: olddecodes=io+mem,decodes=io+mem:owns=io+mem"17:09
FourFirethis is directly after a bunch of network controller related stuff17:11
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mparilloCalligra: The big RHS "Ribbon": Can it be removed or at least made really small?18:00
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Greenfroghi, i have an intresting issue. two of my desktop icons that i copied there from the launcher have turned into kate text files. they no longer open the app they were for18:58
Greenfroghow do i stop this from happening?18:59
diogenes_Greenfrog, see if they are marked as executable.19:01
Greenfrogok just a min19:02
Greenfrogthey are marked as plain text document19:03
diogenes_what happens when you double click on them?19:04
Greenfrogit opens kate19:05
Greenfrogthe apps were thunderbird and libre office19:05
diogenes_and what's written there in kate?19:05
Greenfrogthis is only the tip/beginning of the document19:06
Greenfrog#!/usr/bin/env xdg-open19:07
Greenfrog[Desktop Action Compose]19:07
GreenfrogExec=thunderbird -compose19:07
GreenfrogName=Compose New Message19:07
GreenfrogName[af]=Skryf 'n nuwe boodskap19:07
diogenes_ok ok stop19:07
diogenes_remove them19:07
Greenfrogok to the trash then19:07
diogenes_rum: cp /usr/share/applications/Thunar.desktop ~/Desktop19:08
diogenes_run*19:08
Greenfrogu want me to use terminal for that command?19:09
diogenes_yes19:09
Greenfrogok19:09
BluesKajthunar?19:10
diogenes_oh sorry19:11
diogenes_lol19:11
diogenes_rum: cp /usr/share/applications/thunderbird.desktop ~/Desktop19:11
diogenes_BluesKaj, just super multitasking right now :P19:11
Greenfrogok retyping it :)19:12
diogenes_after running the command, look on desktop, double click on thunderbird, see if it opens19:13
Greenfrogok i put the docs in the trash should i restore the thunderbird one?19:13
Greenfrogfirst?19:13
diogenes_no19:14
diogenes_see if the new one opens19:14
Greenfrogok19:14
Greenfrogi dragged a new tb icon to the desktop and it runs fine without running the command.19:15
diogenes_nice :)19:16
Greenfrogi have no idea what caused the icons to change to docs19:16
Greenfrogand it was just those two19:16
diogenes_maybe some virus19:17
* diogenes_ kidding19:17
Greenfrogi'm almost ready to believe that19:17
BluesKajquicklaunch in the panel is a great substitute for desktop icons, since no minimization of open apps  is needed to launch19:18
Greenfrogthings change by themselves19:18
BluesKajquicklaunch is a very handy widget19:19
diogenes_Greenfrog, have you got wine installed? because some ms viruses like wannacry can escape wine and actually encrypt your files in /home19:19
Greenfrogi was having lots of issues with the k launcher but when i switched to the other launcher in widgets the problems stopped19:19
Greenfrogno wine19:19
diogenes_Greenfrog, or you installed some apps from some shady places.19:20
Greenfrogk launcher was always breaking/spliting from top of screen to bottom19:20
diogenes_3rd party PPAs19:20
Greenfrognope19:21
Greenfrogonly discover/muon or synaptic19:21
Greenfrognothing non standard or not part of the ubuntu/kde family19:22
Greenfrogbut i see your point19:22
Greenfrognothing untrusted19:23
diogenes_grab clam av and scan19:23
Greenfrogok clam av19:24
Greenfrogi've had such a learning curve and issues keeping the system running and not breaking i have litteraly installed kubuntu a dozen times19:25
kosmonaftЭто канал об аниме? Как пропатчить kde под freebsd?))19:25
BluesKaj!ru | kosmonaft19:26
ubottukosmonaft: Пожалуйста наберите /join #ubuntu-ru для получения помощи на русском языке. | Pozhalujsta naberite /join #ubuntu-ru dlya polucheniya pomoshi na russkom yazyke.19:26
diogenes_same as we all, after many flames we learn how to handle stuff.19:26
Greenfroglol so true19:26
Greenfrogit really felt like 3 steps forward and 2 bak19:27
Greenfrogok found it clamav19:29
tomreynyou should do a s.m.a.r.t. check, too19:29
tomreynand make sure your file system is  checked for errors on boot (as per pass # on /etc/fstab, last column)19:30
Greenfrogthis says its a mail scanner primarily19:30
Greenfrogya that one ive done at boot19:30
Greenfrogi also fixed broken packages that way too but it didnt last that long19:31
tomreynare you saying there was a file system check triggered during boot, and it had findings, and took a while to complete?19:31
Greenfrogs.m.a.r.t check is that an app also?19:32
Greenfrogno i started it it was not triggered19:32
Greenfrogand it no time19:32
tomreynsudo apt update && sudo apt install smartmontools && sudo smartctl -x /dev/sda | nc termbin.com 999919:32
tomreynthis installs the smartmontools package which provides the smartctl command. it will ask about configuring a mail server, tell it to keep defaults19:33
Greenfrogok professor i'm taking lots of notes19:33
Greenfrogi hope i'll get an A19:34
tomreynsudo apt update && sudo apt install --no-recommends smartmontools && sudo smartctl -x /dev/sda | nc termbin.com 999919:34
tomreynmake it this and you can skip the mailserver prompt19:34
Greenfrogthe understanding text just shot up drasticly19:35
tomreynthe last bit posts the output of the smartctl command (which is to check your first SATA disk, sda) to the termbin.com "pastebin" service. this will just return a web address for you, but you can share it here.19:37
tomreyni got to leave for now, but surely others will be able to interpret the output, too.19:38
Greenfrogok19:38
Greenfrogu certianly have given me homework19:40
Greenfrog0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.19:43
Greenfrogall packages are up to date19:44
Greenfrogsudo: smartctl: command not found19:47
bpromptGreenfrog:    I believe smartctl is part of "smartmontools" package, but is not installed by default19:51
Greenfrogok now muon wont open either by dt icon or launcher19:53
user|6534I have baut an AZUS UX333F laptop. it has been delivered with a MS Windows 10 system. I would like to know if the hard wear of this computer new computer is supported by Kubuntu ?20:02
Greenfrogok mayb a reboot and fix broken packages will help20:10
diogenes_user|6534, write a kubuntu usb drive, boor it in live sessiona nd see if everything works (sound, microphone, camera, wifi etc.)20:12
xBfroghi, well i've lost my network connection on kubuntu it says "waiting for authorization" so now i'm on a windblows machine trying to find a solution. the network worked an hour ago but after a reboot it was disconnected. any help?22:28
xBfrogi have searched the internet and it keeps saying network mamager, which i dont have installed22:29
xBfrogno idea why i was disconnected, doesnt happen in kubuntu :)22:32
xBfrognetwork waiting for authorization doesnt connect22:36
tomreynxBfrog: what do you have if you don't have network manager?23:30
tomreynxBfrog: you're saying you got disconnected with a "waiting for authorization" message, which, i assume, by the context provided, happened on kubuntu. but then you also say "no idea why i was disconnected, doesnt happen in kubuntu" - which seems contradictory.23:31
tomreynwhich ubuntu version do you have installed there? Are you the same person as "Greenfrog" who was here earlier?23:32
leabattiHello to all!23:37
leabattiCan I do a question? I think that is simple.23:38

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