[00:48] <taimoor> Hello gentlemen :)
[07:17] <lordievader> Good morning
[10:21] <BluesKaj> Howdy folks
[10:22] <yuradoc> hello. may somebody has some advice. i use kde plasma on kubuntu 18.10. I have problem with descktop icons. Mostly I use external desktop, but when I use laptop desktop only - icons on desktop not clickable
[10:23] <yuradoc> only way for me to make them work is to change resolution and revert it
[10:24] <yuradoc> when i use external desktop - everything OK
[10:25] <meven> this sounds like a bug to me or at best a misconfiguration
[10:25] <meven> When you have the external screen, do you use the laptop screen too ?
[10:26] <yuradoc> no
[10:26] <yuradoc> only external
[10:27] <BluesKaj> sounds like a stealing focus issue
[10:28] <meven> it could, but what would steal the desktop icons i.e folder view the focus
[10:29] <yuradoc> also interesting that there is scrollbar on desktop
[10:30] <yuradoc> because icons not fit in
[10:30] <meven> At least one issue here seems that the desktop icons (i.e the folder view) does not resize according to the screen resolution change
[10:30] <BluesKaj> what about icons in the panel, do they respond?
[10:30] <yuradoc> yes
[10:31] <yuradoc> kdemenu too
[10:31] <yuradoc> menu on right click work too
[10:31] <yuradoc> few mins. i'll try to restart. made some experiment
[10:32] <BluesKaj> ok, what if you change from folder view to desktop view
[10:34] <BluesKaj> then add your fav icons to the desktop view
[10:34] <BluesKaj> oops
[10:37] <yuradoc> guys I found the reason!!!
[10:38] <yuradoc> icons not fit in visible desktop part
[10:39] <yuradoc> when i moved them to the visible part, scrollbar disappear
[10:40] <yuradoc> after restart icons start be visible
[10:40] <BluesKaj> ok, what if you change from folder view to desktop view, then add your fav icons to the desktop view
[10:40] <yuradoc> sorruy i mean clickable
[10:41] <BluesKaj> ok difference in resolution  between screens
[10:41] <yuradoc> folder view to desktop view - don't understand
[10:43] <BluesKaj> in context menu on the desktop, configure desktop
[10:43] <BluesKaj> right click on the desktop
[10:44] <yuradoc> no icons at all
[10:44] <yuradoc> disappear
[10:44] <BluesKaj> exactly, now add your favorite icons to it
[10:46] <yuradoc> what the difference?
[10:46] <BluesKaj> I just use quicklaunch in the panel, no icons at all on any desktop, but that's my choice
[10:46] <BluesKaj> quicklaunch widget in the panel
[10:46] <yuradoc> beetween folderand desktop view
[10:47] <yuradoc> *folder and
[10:47] <BluesKaj> that way no icons are hidden by open apps
[10:48] <yuradoc> quicklaunch - i undrstand - textv=box where you can run command
[10:49] <yuradoc> i did place firefox and it's not movable in that view
[10:49] <BluesKaj> like so: https://imagebin.ca/v/4abX0spe0x7P
[10:51] <BluesKaj> see the icons beside the kmenu? that's quicklaunch
[10:51] <BluesKaj> widget
[10:51] <yuradoc> aah cool
[10:52] <BluesKaj> you can place as many icons there as you want
[10:52] <yuradoc> some grid
[10:52] <yuradoc> thanks, intesting idea
[10:53] <yuradoc> but what is diffrence flder vs desktop?
[10:53] <yuradoc> *folder
[10:53] <yuradoc> view
[10:53] <BluesKaj> no need to minimize apps to see the icons on the desktop
[10:54] <BluesKaj> desktop is just my preference, makes it easier to choose etc
[10:54] <yuradoc> i see that icons not movable in that view
[10:54] <BluesKaj> desktop view that is
[10:55] <BluesKaj> movable, how?
[10:55] <yuradoc> i can't move it on desktop
[10:56] <BluesKaj> I have no icons on the desktop only in the quicklaunch
[10:56] <yuradoc> ok
[10:56] <BluesKaj> it's something to consider
[10:56] <yuradoc> thank you for info
[10:57] <BluesKaj> well, it's an alternative
[10:58] <BluesKaj> this is linux, no need go the Windows way IMO
[10:58] <yuradoc> yes'
[10:59] <BluesKaj> if you choose quicklaunch you can place it on the right or left side of the panel, just drag it to where you want it
[11:00] <yuradoc> yes, great idea
[11:02] <BluesKaj> then add your icons by right clicking on the quicklaunch and choose your icon from the menu that appears
[11:33] <Bundestrojaner> hello. the latest kubuntu-update (16.04 LTS) installed a new kernel (4.4.0-143) and broke something (I guess X-server-related). With 4.4.0-143, KDE doesn't start any more.
[11:33] <Bundestrojaner> If i enter the grub-menu and choose the old 4.4.0-142, everything works
[11:35] <dp__> hi
[11:38]  * boingo-00 testing irc
[11:38] <boingo-00> Message
[11:39] <BluesKaj> yes, bobby we see you
[11:39] <BluesKaj> oops
 Hello everyone, I have some issue with my laptop.. It's having Ubuntu 18.04 with kde
 System just boots up to a blank screen with just mouse pointer... The pointer can be moved around...
 I tried logging in using CLI and I found these...
 (Photo, 1280x720) https://irc-attachments.kde.org/jpor0vFP/file_14074.jpg
 (Photo, 720x1280) https://irc-attachments.kde.org/zK5e1kJf/file_14075.jpg
 sddm-greeter is using 100% cpu... Any one know how to fix this... ? … Thanks in advance
[13:28] <diogenes_> vishnuchandrappan, i'd start troulbleshooting woth new user creation and log in as new user
 What is this sddm-greeter and why is it using 100% CPU ?
[13:29] <diogenes_> it's the thing you see right before you see your desktop
 Ok
[13:30] <BluesKaj> vishnuchandrappan, most likely it's because kd/plasma is loading everything in the background getting the desktop ready
 It has been a long time...  … I waited for long... Nothing is happening
[13:31] <BluesKaj> I'm sure it drops to normal after login
 I tried logging in with cli and switching to GUI, but that doesn't worked...
[13:32] <BluesKaj> oh so you can't login ?
 I can but only with cli
[13:35] <BluesKaj> sudo systemctl enable sddm, then, sudo systemctl start sddm ?
 Let me try once
[13:43] <BluesKaj> you will probly need to reboot
[13:47] <Greenfrog> hi, i'm running kubuntu 18.04 all icons an menu items work except discover. it wont open either by icon or menu. how do i fix this?
[13:50] <BluesKaj> Greenfrog, discover can be buggy, i use muon as a reference then I install thru the cli
[13:51] <Greenfrog> ok i'll try that thanks :)
[13:51] <BluesKaj> muon is much better for info than discover
[13:53] <Greenfrog> ok guess its just buggy it has worked before but i've had alot of reboots since. thanks again
[13:53] <BluesKaj> muon should work fine for you, it installs packages if you wish of course
[13:54] <Greenfrog> great. just looking for something that works :)
 @BluesKaj, That didn't work... I just switched to gdm3 (already installed). It'd working fine... I then tried reconfigure sddm but nothing is changed
[13:59] <BluesKaj> so you're runing ubuntu then, not kubuntu?
[14:00] <BluesKaj> kubuntu uses sddm, ubuntu still uses gdm or lightdm, I can't recall which one
[14:00] <BluesKaj> vishnuchandrappan ^
 I installed kde explicitely...  … It was going fine since yesterday... Don't know what happend
[14:18] <BluesKaj> were you on ubuntu previously tho?
[14:20] <BluesKaj> then installed kubuntu-desktop and plasma?
[15:32] <R13ose> How do I convert a .webarchive to an image file?  This person can't convert to anything else and I don't know how to do this properly on my distro
[16:38] <FourFire> Hello again
[16:40] <FourFire> I have made my linux install fail to boot (it boots to black screen, going to virtual terminals is also completely black) after partially configuring vfio (iGPU passthrough) on my AMD CPU with iGPU only laptop
[16:41] <FourFire> How do I fix this to make my laptop boot into Kubuntu 18.04.2 like normal again?
[16:41] <FourFire> I'm in the grub settings now
[16:43] <diogenes_> FourFire, what happened that it stopped booting normally?
[16:45] <FourFire> I had a system wide freeze (which occasionally happens on the AMD Ryzen CPUs with iGPU) after having edited and saved some config file to do with vfio
[16:45] <FourFire> I don't believe the freeze was cause by my edit and I was following a guide (which I can't easily find again right now)
[16:46] <FourFire> when I rebooted, black screen
[16:46] <FourFire> I think the iGPU which is the only GPU in the system is being blocked from linux using it to save it for use of a VM
[16:47] <FourFire> I was trying to configure GPU passthrough for a windows VM when my system froze
[16:49] <FourFire> Found the guide: https://gist.github.com/TomFaulkner/389e8e2e9525e11afe2e775355954cdf
[16:49] <FourFire> I got to an performed the step titled "Modprobe"
[16:50] <kubkde> Did you blacklist nouveau?
[16:51] <FourFire> I don't know that I did
[16:51] <kubkde> Can you share a picture of your GRUB
[16:51] <FourFire> it's an AMD gpu I had the open source drivers installed
[16:52] <kubkde> Yeah. I do know a lot of guides out there (unrelated to VFIO) suggest blacklisting nouveau for optimal performance. It's actually detrimental for you because you need your open source nouveau drivers to run your host system so your AMD GPU can run natively
[16:53] <kubkde> In any case if you can't get a picture through try adding nouveau.modeset=0 and/or radeon.modeset=0 to your GRUB. Do either, and if neither work, just go with nomodeset
[16:54] <FourFire> I'll try to upload right now
[16:54] <BluesKaj> nouveau? that's a default 'buntu driver nvidia
[16:54] <kubkde> Yes, but because nouveau attempts to load at boot and some hardware isn't able to handle that, X11 fails to start
[16:55] <BluesKaj> never seen that
[16:55] <kubkde> It was supposed to make stuff look nice, but it just breaks things
[16:56] <kubkde> So what nomodeset does is it prevents the drivers from loading at boot, allowing your system to boot normally. If FourFire didn't blacklist noouveau drivers he should be fine, although I don't know how his vfio settings will affect this (and I've been trying to get it working myself with a Intel GPU/Nvidia GPU)
[16:57] <BluesKaj>  hmm, /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist.conf doesn't blacklist nouveau here, and I'm on an intel gpu
[16:57] <FourFire> I don't think I specifically blacklisted any drivers
[16:58] <FourFire> so once i do boot into linux, is there anything more I need to do to fix it besides delete the lines added by the guide and update-grub?
[17:08] <FourFire> Boot hangs in the same way with either of those three options
[17:09] <FourFire> Last line is "vfio-pci 0000:05:00.0: vgaarb: changed VGA decodes: olddecodes=io+mem,decodes=io+mem:owns=io+mem"
[17:11] <FourFire> this is directly after a bunch of network controller related stuff
[18:00] <mparillo> Calligra: The big RHS "Ribbon": Can it be removed or at least made really small?
[18:58] <Greenfrog> hi, i have an intresting issue. two of my desktop icons that i copied there from the launcher have turned into kate text files. they no longer open the app they were for
[18:59] <Greenfrog> how do i stop this from happening?
[19:01] <diogenes_> Greenfrog, see if they are marked as executable.
[19:02] <Greenfrog> ok just a min
[19:03] <Greenfrog> they are marked as plain text document
[19:04] <diogenes_> what happens when you double click on them?
[19:05] <Greenfrog> it opens kate
[19:05] <Greenfrog> the apps were thunderbird and libre office
[19:05] <diogenes_> and what's written there in kate?
[19:06] <Greenfrog> this is only the tip/beginning of the document
[19:07] <Greenfrog> #!/usr/bin/env xdg-open
[19:07] <Greenfrog> [Desktop Action Compose]
[19:07] <Greenfrog> Exec=thunderbird -compose
[19:07] <Greenfrog> Name=Compose New Message
[19:07] <Greenfrog> Name[af]=Skryf 'n nuwe boodskap
[19:07] <diogenes_> ok ok stop
[19:07] <diogenes_> remove them
[19:07] <Greenfrog> ok to the trash then
[19:08] <diogenes_> rum: cp /usr/share/applications/Thunar.desktop ~/Desktop
[19:08] <diogenes_> run*
[19:09] <Greenfrog> u want me to use terminal for that command?
[19:09] <diogenes_> yes
[19:09] <Greenfrog> ok
[19:10] <BluesKaj> thunar?
[19:11] <diogenes_> oh sorry
[19:11] <diogenes_> lol
[19:11] <diogenes_> rum: cp /usr/share/applications/thunderbird.desktop ~/Desktop
[19:11] <diogenes_> BluesKaj, just super multitasking right now :P
[19:12] <Greenfrog> ok retyping it :)
[19:13] <diogenes_> after running the command, look on desktop, double click on thunderbird, see if it opens
[19:13] <Greenfrog> ok i put the docs in the trash should i restore the thunderbird one?
[19:13] <Greenfrog> first?
[19:14] <diogenes_> no
[19:14] <diogenes_> see if the new one opens
[19:14] <Greenfrog> ok
[19:15] <Greenfrog> i dragged a new tb icon to the desktop and it runs fine without running the command.
[19:16] <diogenes_> nice :)
[19:16] <Greenfrog> i have no idea what caused the icons to change to docs
[19:16] <Greenfrog> and it was just those two
[19:17] <diogenes_> maybe some virus
[19:17]  * diogenes_ kidding
[19:17] <Greenfrog> i'm almost ready to believe that
[19:18] <BluesKaj> quicklaunch in the panel is a great substitute for desktop icons, since no minimization of open apps  is needed to launch
[19:18] <Greenfrog> things change by themselves
[19:19] <BluesKaj> quicklaunch is a very handy widget
[19:19] <diogenes_> Greenfrog, have you got wine installed? because some ms viruses like wannacry can escape wine and actually encrypt your files in /home
[19:19] <Greenfrog> i was having lots of issues with the k launcher but when i switched to the other launcher in widgets the problems stopped
[19:19] <Greenfrog> no wine
[19:20] <diogenes_> Greenfrog, or you installed some apps from some shady places.
[19:20] <Greenfrog> k launcher was always breaking/spliting from top of screen to bottom
[19:20] <diogenes_> 3rd party PPAs
[19:21] <Greenfrog> nope
[19:21] <Greenfrog> only discover/muon or synaptic
[19:22] <Greenfrog> nothing non standard or not part of the ubuntu/kde family
[19:22] <Greenfrog> but i see your point
[19:23] <Greenfrog> nothing untrusted
[19:23] <diogenes_> grab clam av and scan
[19:24] <Greenfrog> ok clam av
[19:25] <Greenfrog> i've had such a learning curve and issues keeping the system running and not breaking i have litteraly installed kubuntu a dozen times
[19:25] <kosmonaft> Это канал об аниме? Как пропатчить kde под freebsd?))
[19:26] <BluesKaj> !ru | kosmonaft
[19:26] <diogenes_> same as we all, after many flames we learn how to handle stuff.
[19:26] <Greenfrog> lol so true
[19:27] <Greenfrog> it really felt like 3 steps forward and 2 bak
[19:29] <Greenfrog> ok found it clamav
[19:29] <tomreyn> you should do a s.m.a.r.t. check, too
[19:30] <tomreyn> and make sure your file system is  checked for errors on boot (as per pass # on /etc/fstab, last column)
[19:30] <Greenfrog> this says its a mail scanner primarily
[19:30] <Greenfrog> ya that one ive done at boot
[19:31] <Greenfrog> i also fixed broken packages that way too but it didnt last that long
[19:31] <tomreyn> are you saying there was a file system check triggered during boot, and it had findings, and took a while to complete?
[19:32] <Greenfrog> s.m.a.r.t check is that an app also?
[19:32] <Greenfrog> no i started it it was not triggered
[19:32] <Greenfrog> and it no time
[19:32] <tomreyn> sudo apt update && sudo apt install smartmontools && sudo smartctl -x /dev/sda | nc termbin.com 9999
[19:33] <tomreyn> this installs the smartmontools package which provides the smartctl command. it will ask about configuring a mail server, tell it to keep defaults
[19:33] <Greenfrog> ok professor i'm taking lots of notes
[19:34] <Greenfrog> i hope i'll get an A
[19:34] <tomreyn> sudo apt update && sudo apt install --no-recommends smartmontools && sudo smartctl -x /dev/sda | nc termbin.com 9999
[19:34] <tomreyn> make it this and you can skip the mailserver prompt
[19:35] <Greenfrog> the understanding text just shot up drasticly
[19:37] <tomreyn> the last bit posts the output of the smartctl command (which is to check your first SATA disk, sda) to the termbin.com "pastebin" service. this will just return a web address for you, but you can share it here.
[19:38] <tomreyn> i got to leave for now, but surely others will be able to interpret the output, too.
[19:38] <Greenfrog> ok
[19:40] <Greenfrog> u certianly have given me homework
[19:43] <Greenfrog> 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
[19:44] <Greenfrog> all packages are up to date
[19:47] <Greenfrog> sudo: smartctl: command not found
[19:51] <bprompt> Greenfrog:    I believe smartctl is part of "smartmontools" package, but is not installed by default
[19:53] <Greenfrog> ok now muon wont open either by dt icon or launcher
[20:02] <user|6534> I have baut an AZUS UX333F laptop. it has been delivered with a MS Windows 10 system. I would like to know if the hard wear of this computer new computer is supported by Kubuntu ?
[20:10] <Greenfrog> ok mayb a reboot and fix broken packages will help
[20:12] <diogenes_> user|6534, write a kubuntu usb drive, boor it in live sessiona nd see if everything works (sound, microphone, camera, wifi etc.)
[22:28] <xBfrog> hi, well i've lost my network connection on kubuntu it says "waiting for authorization" so now i'm on a windblows machine trying to find a solution. the network worked an hour ago but after a reboot it was disconnected. any help?
[22:29] <xBfrog> i have searched the internet and it keeps saying network mamager, which i dont have installed
[22:32] <xBfrog> no idea why i was disconnected, doesnt happen in kubuntu :)
[22:36] <xBfrog> network waiting for authorization doesnt connect
[23:30] <tomreyn> xBfrog: what do you have if you don't have network manager?
[23:31] <tomreyn> xBfrog: you're saying you got disconnected with a "waiting for authorization" message, which, i assume, by the context provided, happened on kubuntu. but then you also say "no idea why i was disconnected, doesnt happen in kubuntu" - which seems contradictory.
[23:32] <tomreyn> which ubuntu version do you have installed there? Are you the same person as "Greenfrog" who was here earlier?
[23:37] <leabatti> Hello to all!
[23:38] <leabatti> Can I do a question? I think that is simple.