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tjaaltonduflu: src:xorg exista, don't move bugs which belong there to xorg-server ;)04:59
tjaalton*exists05:00
tjaaltonduflu: unless you mean the server should fall back to swrast instead of going belly up. I get that05:28
duflutjaalton, *most* bug reports are really xorg-server. But yeah if I made a mistake in one of them then please correct it05:29
tjaaltonright05:30
tjaaltonthe xorg crash one is actually a bug in amdgpu-pro05:31
tjaaltonnothing we can do on the server side, the crash happens because libgbm doesn't match the drivers05:31
tjaaltonI woke up with 7 email ping-pong between dell/amd/us, dunno why this happens again05:32
dufluI did see one bug that looked like it came from Dell today. But couldn't confirm it did05:41
RAOFduflu: Is there anything I can do to debug the “gnome-shell really, *really* hates nvidia” bug? It seems that it *also* leaks like a sieve when running as a Wayland compositor on nvidia (but that's a bit harder to tell because it's honestly just pretty generally broken as a wayland compositor on nvidia).05:42
duflu(bug 1820323 sounds like Dell)05:43
ubot5bug 1820323 in xorg-server (Ubuntu) "xorg crash" [Undecided,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/182032305:43
dufluRAOF: That seems to be a whole class of bugs neatly grouped under https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gdm3/+bugs?field.tag=nvidia05:44
dufluLast I heard Laney was going to have a look because he can reproduce one of the most popular ones05:44
RAOFNah, I'm talking https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-shell/+bug/181555005:45
ubot5Ubuntu bug 1815550 in gnome-shell (Ubuntu) "RSS grows without limit, general slowness" [High,New]05:45
RAOFI mean, it's true that there are also a whole host of other bugs, but they've been there longer; gnome-shell being nearly unusable due to memory leaks is new :)05:46
dufluRAOF: If you can confirm the problem goes away if you stop using nvidia-XXX then please add a bug task for that driver package. Then someone can ask Nvidia to have a look05:48
dufluAlthough a mutter developer reproducing the problem might be more helpful in the short term05:49
* RAOF will see if he can get gnome-shell to display on the intel card.05:49
dufluRAOF: Just turn it off the in BIOS?05:49
tjaaltonduflu: "xorg crash" was one05:49
duflutjaalton, I think you need to mute your phone if emails are able to wake you up :)05:51
tjaaltonhehe05:51
tjaaltonnot literally05:51
RAOFNew bug: Xorg does not start up on the Intel card in this laptop anymore. The Xorg.0.log suggests its trying to load nouveau for some reason?06:33
RAOFAlso, is getting three <enter> presses per physical keypress (accompanied by a ~500ms pause in rendering) in gnome-terminal under gnome-shell-weston a thing everyone else is seeing?06:36
RAOFSorry, gnome-shell-wayland.06:36
cpaelzerjibel: we got the FFe on 1819207 and the change into Debian07:14
cpaelzerjibel: the only other change in Debian we want as well (an evolved version of a fix I already had tested and followed the upstream resolution)07:14
cpaelzerjibel: that means we now want to do a syncpackage - should I or do you want to?07:15
jibelhi cpaelzer , can you do it please?07:17
didrocksgood morning07:21
jibelSalut didrocks , bon long week-end?07:21
didrockssalut jibel, bon pas trop: gastro pour tout le monde, mais long, oui :p07:25
didrockset toi ?07:25
cpaelzerjibel: I have triggered the sync07:25
jibelcpaelzer, thanks07:25
jibeldidrocks, ah, pas de chance pour la gastro :/07:26
jibeldidrocks, ici c'était calme, décollage de papier peint principalement07:26
didrockspas trop difficile à décoller ?07:27
jibelnon, c'est du vieux truc + la décolleuse et ça vient tout seul07:29
dufluMorning didrocks and jibel07:43
jibelHi duflu07:44
tjaaltonwas the terminal color palette changed recently?07:47
dufluI think it might have but I haven't done a fresh install for a couple of weeks07:48
tjaaltonanother question is where those are from, g-t defaults to 'tango' but I only find the icon-theme with that name07:54
tjaaltonhighlights on irssi are now unreadable ("red" on "blue")07:54
tjaaltonoh well, 'linux' palette works best07:59
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tjaaltonew, nope..08:09
duflutjaalton, if you're having trouble with vim colours try set t_Co=1608:11
tjaaltontango is fine, terminator just doesn't have an option to use bright colors for bold text08:13
tjaaltonguess tilix is the way to go then08:13
didrockshey duflu08:22
oSoMoNgood morning desktoppers08:40
dufluMorning oSoMoN08:40
jibeldidrocks, https://code.launchpad.net/~jibel/livecd-rootfs/+git/fix_divert_grub_for_multilayer/+merge/36466008:41
oSoMoNhey duflu08:41
oSoMoNsalut jibel, didrocks08:41
jibelSalut oSoMoN08:42
jibelça va?08:42
cpaelzerjibel: complete in Disco08:42
jibelcpaelzer, super! thanks08:42
jibeltseliot, do you think you'll have time to review https://github.com/tseliot/ubuntu-drivers-common/pull/30 ?08:43
gitbottseliot issue (Pull request) 30 in ubuntu-drivers-common "Free only drivers" [Open]08:43
jibelnow that open-vm-tools with modaliases is in disco08:43
didrockssalut oSoMoN08:43
didrocksjibel: merged, I'm adding the lang fixes and uploading a new version in disco shortly08:47
oSoMoNjibel, très bien, et toi?08:47
jibeloSoMoN, bien bien week end calme08:47
jibeldidrocks, okay, thanks08:47
willcookemorning all08:59
andyrockmorning all!08:59
willcookehi andyrock09:00
didrocksjibel: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/livecd-rootfs/2.57009:03
didrockshey willcooke, andyrock09:03
willcookehi didrocks09:03
oSoMoNgood morning willcooke, andyrock09:04
seb128good morning desktopers09:05
didrockshey seb12809:05
seb128hey willcooke andyrock09:05
seb128lut didrocks oSoMoN jibel09:05
seb128my calendar says it's hackfest week for Lane_y :)09:05
tjaaltonbtw, hitting the win-button "breaks" the session, but suspend/resume "fixes" that in a way, doesn't even need to enter the password09:06
tjaaltonon current disco after upgrade yesterday09:06
seb128what did you get as upgrades on a sunday?09:06
tjaaltonlots09:06
seb128also can you define 'breaks'?09:06
Laneymoin from london!09:07
tjaaltoncan't change windows09:07
seb128like session close back to gdm?09:07
seb128hey Laney! happy hacking week!09:07
tjaaltonno, the session is up but can't do anything with it09:07
didrocksLaney: hey hey londoner :)09:07
seb128tjaalton, did you land a new xorg/mesa version on your machine maybe?09:07
didrocksLaney: what kind of hackfest are you in?09:07
tjaaltonwhy would that change anything09:07
tjaaltonthe driver works09:07
tjaaltonxserver didn't change, mesa did but that I had running before09:08
seb128well, I'm just trying to think what could be special on your machine...09:08
seb128can you check your dpkg.log ?09:08
seb128see what updates you got09:08
oSoMoNgood morning Laney09:08
tjaaltonI think the "old" session had updates from mar 3rd, then upgraded again on 13th, 15th and 17th. yesterday I rebooted the new kernel09:09
seb128k09:10
seb128is that wayland or xorg session?09:10
tjaaltonxorg09:10
seb128can you open a bug with the journal log after triggering the issue?09:10
tjaaltonsure09:10
seb128also maybe try to disable extensiosn if you have non-default-ubuntu ones09:10
seb128I didn't do post-w.e bugs backlog yet09:10
tjaaltondesktop grid is the only one but it fails to load09:11
seb128but I didn't see any mention of such problems until friday09:11
tjaaltonwith 3.3209:11
seb128k09:11
seb128maybe the journal has some error/warning that gives us an hint then09:11
tjaaltonalthough the grid itself seems to work just that the popup shows only the horizontal layout when changing between workspaces09:12
seb128disable that one still, half enable doesn't sound great09:12
tjaaltonoh I had a shell crash09:12
seb128it's not impossible it screws up things09:12
seb128ah09:12
tjaaltonwell can't unselect it from tweaks, it shows it unselected and not working09:13
tjaaltontbh it's disappointing that the grid maintainer hasn't touched the extension since fixing it for 3.3009:13
seb128:/09:13
seb128what is more disappointing is that things in GNOME are built in a way that keeps makin09:14
seb128g those incompatible/needed to be updated09:14
seb128but oh well, not a lot we can do about that :/09:14
tjaaltonyeah and this was a big one09:14
tjaaltonShell.GenericContainer was dropped09:15
tjaaltonanyway09:16
tjaaltonI'll try to remove it and reproduce09:16
Laneydidrocks: https://wiki.gnome.org/Hackfests/ParentalAndMetered201909:18
didrocksLaney: oh, that one! Have fun :)09:19
Laneythanks :>09:20
tjaaltonseb128: what kind of journal log is needed?09:22
tjaaltonseb128: oh well, it works after purging workspace-grid09:24
willcookexnox, remember Rim and Reboot... do you remember what the cause was (why we had to have them physically power off the machine, instead of hitting enter for e.g.) and if there is a LP bug for it?  Some people have raised a Github bug (?!) and I'd like to point them a LP if there is already a bug about it09:25
willcookeeven if that's "this is how it works now"09:26
seb128tjaalton, good :)09:35
seb128tjaalton, journalctl -b 0 to a file is usually enough but you can grep -i shell for example in that case09:35
seb128but if it doesn't happen without the extension then it's probably due to it...09:36
tjaaltonright09:39
dufluOh, morning willcooke, seb128, andyrock, Laney, others?09:43
seb128hey duflu!09:45
clobranogood morning all o/09:51
didrockshey clobrano09:51
clobranohi didrocks, how's it going?09:51
didrocksclobrano: I'm good after some difficult days, and yourself?09:51
clobranodidrocks: oh, that's bad, good that you're recovering :)  I'm good as well, but the weekend was more tiring than work week :)09:53
clobranoTalking with Michele about dashtodock, he found an issue with `transparent-mode` mapping https://github.com/micheleg/dash-to-dock/issues/91209:53
gitbotmicheleg issue 912 in dash-to-dock "Dynamic transparency UI settings broken in v66/3.32" [Bug, Regression, Open]09:53
dufluBTW, I did figure out how to open a poll (https://discourse.ubuntu.com/t/center-windows-by-default/10262/5?u=vanvugt)09:58
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jbichagood morning10:18
jbichaduflu: thanks :)10:18
dufluMorning jbicha10:19
dufluHopefully someone remembers to design that flag into gnome-control-center too10:19
dufluAlong with right click methods :)10:19
jbichaduflu: there isn't a good place in g-c-c for Centre New Windows…10:20
duflujbicha, I know, so it's a design issue before anything else10:20
dufluI know I have failed to log a bug for it. But it's also too late to matter this cycle10:21
seb128hey jbicha10:22
jbichaseb128: could you review https://code.launchpad.net/~khurshid-alam/unity-greeter/vala-fix-0.43/+merge/363878 ? I'm not a member of https://launchpad.net/~unity-greeter-team10:22
seb128jbicha, k10:22
seb128jbicha, do you know what's the status of fixing libunity for new vala?10:22
jbichaI don't know. I wasn't watching libunity. We should at least land https://code.launchpad.net/~ricotz/libunity/syntax-fixes/+merge/36292310:25
seb128well, we have that in a silo but it fails to build as described in the comment10:25
seb128the dee mapping error10:25
tseliotjibel: yes, I think I can finish the review today11:02
seb128tjaalton, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/libx11/+bug/1820509 ... do you think that's worth a SRU?11:04
ubot5Ubuntu bug 1820509 in libx11 (Ubuntu) "Avoid use-after-free in _XimProtoSetIMValues() " [Undecided,New]11:04
tjaaltonseb128: could be, but since the keyword 'security' is mentioned it might have to go through the security pocket11:34
seb128tjaalton, it has no CVE so unsure it is of interest to security, might be worth checking with them11:34
seb128let me ask on their channel11:34
tjaaltonthx11:37
willcookehi frederik-f, I forgot to say the other day, congratulations on becoming an Ubuntu Member!!12:08
willcooke\m/12:08
frederik-fThanks willcooke ! :D And hi!12:08
frederik-fI hope the other Yaru Guys will do the same soon =D12:09
clobranocongratulation frederik-f :), my wiki page is ready, I just need to register in the agenda :)12:14
xnoxwillcooke, the gist of it, was that we are showing plymouth rim&reboot message, but on the wrong tty.12:22
xnoxwillcooke, maybe we should like try to "read" enter key on the text output too...12:22
willcookegood luck clobrano12:24
willcookenot that you need it12:24
willcookexnox, ooh, interesting, if we could, that might be a nice option.  Shall I open a LP bug?12:24
xnoxwillcooke, sure.12:25
willcookexnox, against Plymouth?12:25
clobranowillcooke: :D thanks, but I do need testimonials, so if anyone like to drop a note, I would be really grateful https://wiki.ubuntu.com/clobrano (shameless self promotion OFF)12:27
willcookesure thin12:30
willcookeg12:30
jibelsil2100, do you have the power to trigger a build of https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-cdimage/+livefs/ubuntu/disco/ubuntu-canary/ ?12:33
sil2100jibel: is this driven by cdimage?12:42
sil2100jibel: or is it a standalone livefs build?12:43
* sil2100 checks12:44
jibelsil2100, what do you mean?12:44
sil2100Ok, I see the subproject on cdimage12:44
jibelsil2100, it's a daily build that is cron'd12:44
sil2100jibel: kicking a new build now12:45
jibelsil2100, thanks12:45
jibelsil2100, FTR it's the desktop image used to land and mature experimental features12:46
jibellike multilayer filesystem for example12:47
sil2100jibel: should we perhaps add it to the isotracker? I guess you could then kick the images yourself?12:47
jibelsil2100, or give me access to nusakan12:47
sil2100Or that, yes ;)12:48
xnoxwillcooke, casper12:59
jibeldidrocks, https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-cdimage/+livefs/ubuntu/disco/ubuntu-canary/+build/15951613:27
jibel\o/13:27
didrocksyeah, I'm looking at the artefacts as we speak :)13:27
sil2100Oh, indeed, no build-failure e-mail \o/13:29
jibelsil2100, do you know if the images are built and published somewhere?13:47
sil2100jibel: looking at the logs, I think ubuntu-cdimage isn't configured to do that, it probably doesn't recognize what to publish13:52
sil2100http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/cd-build-logs/ubuntu/disco/daily-live-20190318.2.log13:52
* kenvandine is updating the disco seed for the core18 based snaps ;)13:55
didrocksseb128: do you mind creating under ~ubuntu-desktop a "canary-image" ppa (so that we can include it in our canary build)14:12
didrocksthat would be great to test packages we want to stage a little bit, so that they end up in the experimental canary image before we upload to distro14:12
didrocks(I guess it should be a non virt ppa)14:13
seb128didrocks, https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-desktop/+archive/ubuntu/canary-image14:13
didrocksthx! you just created it or it was already there?14:13
seb128didrocks, you need a launchpad admin for the nonvirt part I think14:14
didrocksbecause I loaded the page and I saw it :p14:14
seb128I did14:14
didrocksah, so quick :)14:14
didrocksthanks ;)14:14
seb128np14:14
didrocksI'll ask a LP admin for non virt14:14
didrocks(but not very important for now)14:14
didrockssil2100: when you have a second: https://code.launchpad.net/~didrocks/ubuntu-cdimage/add-canary-ppa-to-exp-image/+merge/364673 please! ;)14:44
tseliotjibel: merged. Did you get a FFE?14:56
seb128ricotz, hey, could you review https://code.launchpad.net/~khurshid-alam/unity-scope-home/vala-fix/+merge/364680? I don't understand vala enough to comment...15:19
jibeltseliot, Excellent, thanks! FFe 181920715:19
jibelbug 181920715:19
ubot5bug 1819207 in ubuntu-drivers-common (Ubuntu Disco) "[FFe] Add Modaliases to open-vm-tools-desktop to allow automatic installation by ubuntu-drivers" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/181920715:19
jibeltseliot, +1 for the FFe15:19
tseliotjibel: great, I'm going to upload then15:20
tseliotjibel: uploaded15:30
ricotzseb128, done16:09
seb128ricotz, thanks!16:09
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seb128clobrano, thx for merging those icons fixes. What's the process to land an update in disco now? we need a packager from the distro side to pull what is the vcs in a source upload? (do you need to make a release/tag first?)16:24
clobranoseb128: usually landing in disco was made by Laney16:35
seb128clobrano, k, he's at a hackfest this week, but maybe he has time for that16:35
clobranoseb128: included the tag, since I don't have a gpg key for that16:35
seb128Laney, do you think you can handle an yaru upload today or tomorrow to include the icons symlinks they added for 3.32 renames16:35
seb128that's blocking syncing some of the app updates16:36
seb128clobrano, thx16:36
Laneynot really, but it's easy16:36
Laneyclobrano makes the changelog, git tag <the version number>16:36
Laneygbp buildpackage -S a package and upload it16:36
Laneygit tag -s <the version number>, that is16:36
clobranoLaney: I remember that something needed to be signed16:39
seb128didrocks, ^ do you think you could make an upload for yaru today or tomorrow?16:39
clobranoseb128, Laney  but yes I can make the changelog16:39
seb128kenvandine, bug #1799614 do you know what version of snapd-glib is needed? the SRU bug is not really clear about that16:40
ubot5bug 1799614 in snapd-glib (Ubuntu Cosmic) "Use new media API" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/179961416:40
seb128is 1.44 enough or does the 1.47 SRU needs to go with it?16:40
seb128clobrano, thx!16:40
Laneyclobrano: the tag, yeah16:40
Laneyso you push that somewhere and then clobrano can put it in the repo16:40
clobranoseb128, Laney, didrocks: changelog updated https://github.com/ubuntu/yaru/commit/065dd123ba35e8a4dd9de5d96f07dd9924feafe016:53
clobranoI really need to go now, if necessary I can save some time later, otherwise see you tomorrow o/16:54
didrocksseb128: tomorrow, no pb17:03
didrockswant to give it a testbet before17:03
didrocksclobrano: ^17:03
didrocksclobrano: you miss the UIFe though?17:03
clobranodidrocks There should be one opened by jaggers, maybe is to be updated, I'll check again later17:06
didrocksclobrano: please check and reference it in the changelog17:07
seb128didrocks, thx17:16
Laney😘17:16
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kenvandineseb128: i really don't know18:18
kenvandineseb128: i can ask robert tonight18:18
willcookenighty night all18:22
oSoMoNgood night all18:29
robert_ancellkenvandine, Wimpress, the new "embeddable card" feature on snapcraft.io is pretty cool.19:38
robert_ancellWas looking at the gimp snap there.19:38
robert_ancellWimpress, has there been any interest on upstream maintaining that snap?19:38
WimpressYep, we're switching our blogs over to use it :-)19:38
WimpressYes, upstream Gimp are interested.19:39
kenvandineyeah, it is19:39
WimpressJust need to motivated the various community members involved.19:39
kenvandinerobert_ancell: what happens with the SRU'd gnome-software with an older snapd-glib?19:49
robert_ancellkenvandine, which SRU?19:49
kenvandine bug #179961419:50
ubot5bug 1799614 in snapd-glib (Ubuntu Cosmic) "Use new media API" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/179961419:50
robert_ancellkenvandine, what version is "older". i.e. pre 1.45?19:52
seb1281.4419:52
kenvandineyeah, 1.4419:52
robert_ancellthey will fail to compile19:52
seb128which is what cosmic currently has19:52
seb128no it didn't?19:52
robert_ancellseb128, do you have a buildlog link handy?19:53
seb128ah19:53
seb128https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-software/3.30.2-0ubuntu10 you disabled it19:53
seb128the bug status is confusing19:53
robert_ancellseb128, oh yes, that one I disabled so the ODRS change could leapfrog the media API change.19:54
robert_ancellSRUs are fun.19:54
seb128it's listed on the SRU report page as to verify19:54
seb128someone needs to keep not to talk to the SRU team about validating the SRU once the ODRS change is validated then19:54
seb128otherwise they are going to wait on the other one to turn green which is not going to happen19:55
robert_ancellseb128, didn't slangesek fix that with his reupload? (https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-software/+bug/1799614/comments/8)19:57
ubot5Ubuntu bug 1799614 in snapd-glib (Ubuntu Cosmic) "Use new media API" [High,In progress]19:57
seb128robert_ancell, no, see http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/pending-sru.html19:57
seb128it might consider all revisions since the previous archive one19:57
robert_ancellseb128, ah19:58
robert_ancellseb128, care to confirm the ODRS change?19:58
seb128I don't have a cosmic install handy19:58
seb128but I need to do one to validate the e-d-s/evo SRUs19:59
robert_ancellkenvandine, do you have one?19:59
seb128I can do gnome-software as well then, I try to do that tomorrow19:59
robert_ancellok, thanks.19:59
kenvandinethanks!19:59
seb128Laney, can you add https://code.launchpad.net/~khurshid-alam/libunity/glib-2.59.3/+merge/364679 to your review backlog for when you will have cycles for it?20:38
seb128robert_ancell, btw do you plan to look at backporting those gnome-software UI changes from 3.32 (like the icon/menus) or do you need a bug/trello card in the backlog?20:40
robert_ancellseb128, open a trello task if you want them.20:40
seb128robert_ancell, k, thanks20:41
robert_ancell(assign to me)20:41
seb128robert_ancell, do you think you have the free cycles to do it?20:41
seb128or does that need 'resource/priority arbitration'?20:41
seb128I can talk to Ken I guess :p20:41
robert_ancellseb128, it's not a priority for me, but they'll be fairly easy to put into an update if you've done the FFE for them.20:42
seb128k20:42
robert_ancellTrevinho, what tz are you in :)23:21
Trevinhorobert_ancell: hey... I'm in Porgual, so basically London one :)23:23
Trevinhobut, well it's always relative to me :)23:24
robert_ancellTrevinho, indeed! I had a Shell question but I think I worked it out myself..23:24
Trevinhorobert_ancell: ah, ok... let me know if you want.23:26

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