[04:59] <tjaalton> duflu: src:xorg exista, don't move bugs which belong there to xorg-server ;)
[05:00] <tjaalton> *exists
[05:28] <tjaalton> duflu: unless you mean the server should fall back to swrast instead of going belly up. I get that
[05:29] <duflu> tjaalton, *most* bug reports are really xorg-server. But yeah if I made a mistake in one of them then please correct it
[05:30] <tjaalton> right
[05:31] <tjaalton> the xorg crash one is actually a bug in amdgpu-pro
[05:31] <tjaalton> nothing we can do on the server side, the crash happens because libgbm doesn't match the drivers
[05:32] <tjaalton> I woke up with 7 email ping-pong between dell/amd/us, dunno why this happens again
[05:41] <duflu> I did see one bug that looked like it came from Dell today. But couldn't confirm it did
[05:42] <RAOF> duflu: Is there anything I can do to debug the “gnome-shell really, *really* hates nvidia” bug? It seems that it *also* leaks like a sieve when running as a Wayland compositor on nvidia (but that's a bit harder to tell because it's honestly just pretty generally broken as a wayland compositor on nvidia).
[05:43] <duflu> (bug 1820323 sounds like Dell)
[05:44] <duflu> RAOF: That seems to be a whole class of bugs neatly grouped under https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gdm3/+bugs?field.tag=nvidia
[05:44] <duflu> Last I heard Laney was going to have a look because he can reproduce one of the most popular ones
[05:45] <RAOF> Nah, I'm talking https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-shell/+bug/1815550
[05:46] <RAOF> I mean, it's true that there are also a whole host of other bugs, but they've been there longer; gnome-shell being nearly unusable due to memory leaks is new :)
[05:48] <duflu> RAOF: If you can confirm the problem goes away if you stop using nvidia-XXX then please add a bug task for that driver package. Then someone can ask Nvidia to have a look
[05:49] <duflu> Although a mutter developer reproducing the problem might be more helpful in the short term
[05:49]  * RAOF will see if he can get gnome-shell to display on the intel card.
[05:49] <duflu> RAOF: Just turn it off the in BIOS?
[05:49] <tjaalton> duflu: "xorg crash" was one
[05:51] <duflu> tjaalton, I think you need to mute your phone if emails are able to wake you up :)
[05:51] <tjaalton> hehe
[05:51] <tjaalton> not literally
[06:33] <RAOF> New bug: Xorg does not start up on the Intel card in this laptop anymore. The Xorg.0.log suggests its trying to load nouveau for some reason?
[06:36] <RAOF> Also, is getting three <enter> presses per physical keypress (accompanied by a ~500ms pause in rendering) in gnome-terminal under gnome-shell-weston a thing everyone else is seeing?
[06:36] <RAOF> Sorry, gnome-shell-wayland.
[07:14] <cpaelzer> jibel: we got the FFe on 1819207 and the change into Debian
[07:14] <cpaelzer> jibel: the only other change in Debian we want as well (an evolved version of a fix I already had tested and followed the upstream resolution)
[07:15] <cpaelzer> jibel: that means we now want to do a syncpackage - should I or do you want to?
[07:17] <jibel> hi cpaelzer , can you do it please?
[07:21] <didrocks> good morning
[07:21] <jibel> Salut didrocks , bon long week-end?
[07:25] <didrocks> salut jibel, bon pas trop: gastro pour tout le monde, mais long, oui :p
[07:25] <didrocks> et toi ?
[07:25] <cpaelzer> jibel: I have triggered the sync
[07:25] <jibel> cpaelzer, thanks
[07:26] <jibel> didrocks, ah, pas de chance pour la gastro :/
[07:26] <jibel> didrocks, ici c'était calme, décollage de papier peint principalement
[07:27] <didrocks> pas trop difficile à décoller ?
[07:29] <jibel> non, c'est du vieux truc + la décolleuse et ça vient tout seul
[07:43] <duflu> Morning didrocks and jibel
[07:44] <jibel> Hi duflu
[07:47] <tjaalton> was the terminal color palette changed recently?
[07:48] <duflu> I think it might have but I haven't done a fresh install for a couple of weeks
[07:54] <tjaalton> another question is where those are from, g-t defaults to 'tango' but I only find the icon-theme with that name
[07:54] <tjaalton> highlights on irssi are now unreadable ("red" on "blue")
[07:59] <tjaalton> oh well, 'linux' palette works best
[08:09] <tjaalton> ew, nope..
[08:11] <duflu> tjaalton, if you're having trouble with vim colours try set t_Co=16
[08:13] <tjaalton> tango is fine, terminator just doesn't have an option to use bright colors for bold text
[08:13] <tjaalton> guess tilix is the way to go then
[08:22] <didrocks> hey duflu
[08:40] <oSoMoN> good morning desktoppers
[08:40] <duflu> Morning oSoMoN
[08:41] <jibel> didrocks, https://code.launchpad.net/~jibel/livecd-rootfs/+git/fix_divert_grub_for_multilayer/+merge/364660
[08:41] <oSoMoN> hey duflu
[08:41] <oSoMoN> salut jibel, didrocks
[08:42] <jibel> Salut oSoMoN
[08:42] <jibel> ça va?
[08:42] <cpaelzer> jibel: complete in Disco
[08:42] <jibel> cpaelzer, super! thanks
[08:43] <jibel> tseliot, do you think you'll have time to review https://github.com/tseliot/ubuntu-drivers-common/pull/30 ?
[08:43] <gitbot> tseliot issue (Pull request) 30 in ubuntu-drivers-common "Free only drivers" [Open]
[08:43] <jibel> now that open-vm-tools with modaliases is in disco
[08:43] <didrocks> salut oSoMoN
[08:47] <didrocks> jibel: merged, I'm adding the lang fixes and uploading a new version in disco shortly
[08:47] <oSoMoN> jibel, très bien, et toi?
[08:47] <jibel> oSoMoN, bien bien week end calme
[08:47] <jibel> didrocks, okay, thanks
[08:59] <willcooke> morning all
[08:59] <andyrock> morning all!
[09:00] <willcooke> hi andyrock
[09:03] <didrocks> jibel: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/livecd-rootfs/2.570
[09:03] <didrocks> hey willcooke, andyrock
[09:03] <willcooke> hi didrocks
[09:04] <oSoMoN> good morning willcooke, andyrock
[09:05] <seb128> good morning desktopers
[09:05] <didrocks> hey seb128
[09:05] <seb128> hey willcooke andyrock
[09:05] <seb128> lut didrocks oSoMoN jibel
[09:05] <seb128> my calendar says it's hackfest week for Lane_y :)
[09:06] <tjaalton> btw, hitting the win-button "breaks" the session, but suspend/resume "fixes" that in a way, doesn't even need to enter the password
[09:06] <tjaalton> on current disco after upgrade yesterday
[09:06] <seb128> what did you get as upgrades on a sunday?
[09:06] <tjaalton> lots
[09:06] <seb128> also can you define 'breaks'?
[09:07] <Laney> moin from london!
[09:07] <tjaalton> can't change windows
[09:07] <seb128> like session close back to gdm?
[09:07] <seb128> hey Laney! happy hacking week!
[09:07] <tjaalton> no, the session is up but can't do anything with it
[09:07] <didrocks> Laney: hey hey londoner :)
[09:07] <seb128> tjaalton, did you land a new xorg/mesa version on your machine maybe?
[09:07] <didrocks> Laney: what kind of hackfest are you in?
[09:07] <tjaalton> why would that change anything
[09:07] <tjaalton> the driver works
[09:08] <tjaalton> xserver didn't change, mesa did but that I had running before
[09:08] <seb128> well, I'm just trying to think what could be special on your machine...
[09:08] <seb128> can you check your dpkg.log ?
[09:08] <seb128> see what updates you got
[09:08] <oSoMoN> good morning Laney
[09:09] <tjaalton> I think the "old" session had updates from mar 3rd, then upgraded again on 13th, 15th and 17th. yesterday I rebooted the new kernel
[09:10] <seb128> k
[09:10] <seb128> is that wayland or xorg session?
[09:10] <tjaalton> xorg
[09:10] <seb128> can you open a bug with the journal log after triggering the issue?
[09:10] <tjaalton> sure
[09:10] <seb128> also maybe try to disable extensiosn if you have non-default-ubuntu ones
[09:10] <seb128> I didn't do post-w.e bugs backlog yet
[09:11] <tjaalton> desktop grid is the only one but it fails to load
[09:11] <seb128> but I didn't see any mention of such problems until friday
[09:11] <tjaalton> with 3.32
[09:11] <seb128> k
[09:11] <seb128> maybe the journal has some error/warning that gives us an hint then
[09:12] <tjaalton> although the grid itself seems to work just that the popup shows only the horizontal layout when changing between workspaces
[09:12] <seb128> disable that one still, half enable doesn't sound great
[09:12] <tjaalton> oh I had a shell crash
[09:12] <seb128> it's not impossible it screws up things
[09:12] <seb128> ah
[09:13] <tjaalton> well can't unselect it from tweaks, it shows it unselected and not working
[09:13] <tjaalton> tbh it's disappointing that the grid maintainer hasn't touched the extension since fixing it for 3.30
[09:13] <seb128> :/
[09:14] <seb128> what is more disappointing is that things in GNOME are built in a way that keeps makin
[09:14] <seb128> g those incompatible/needed to be updated
[09:14] <seb128> but oh well, not a lot we can do about that :/
[09:14] <tjaalton> yeah and this was a big one
[09:15] <tjaalton> Shell.GenericContainer was dropped
[09:16] <tjaalton> anyway
[09:16] <tjaalton> I'll try to remove it and reproduce
[09:18] <Laney> didrocks: https://wiki.gnome.org/Hackfests/ParentalAndMetered2019
[09:19] <didrocks> Laney: oh, that one! Have fun :)
[09:20] <Laney> thanks :>
[09:22] <tjaalton> seb128: what kind of journal log is needed?
[09:24] <tjaalton> seb128: oh well, it works after purging workspace-grid
[09:25] <willcooke> xnox, remember Rim and Reboot... do you remember what the cause was (why we had to have them physically power off the machine, instead of hitting enter for e.g.) and if there is a LP bug for it?  Some people have raised a Github bug (?!) and I'd like to point them a LP if there is already a bug about it
[09:26] <willcooke> even if that's "this is how it works now"
[09:35] <seb128> tjaalton, good :)
[09:35] <seb128> tjaalton, journalctl -b 0 to a file is usually enough but you can grep -i shell for example in that case
[09:36] <seb128> but if it doesn't happen without the extension then it's probably due to it...
[09:39] <tjaalton> right
[09:43] <duflu> Oh, morning willcooke, seb128, andyrock, Laney, others?
[09:45] <seb128> hey duflu!
[09:51] <clobrano> good morning all o/
[09:51] <didrocks> hey clobrano
[09:51] <clobrano> hi didrocks, how's it going?
[09:51] <didrocks> clobrano: I'm good after some difficult days, and yourself?
[09:53] <clobrano> didrocks: oh, that's bad, good that you're recovering :)  I'm good as well, but the weekend was more tiring than work week :)
[09:53] <clobrano> Talking with Michele about dashtodock, he found an issue with `transparent-mode` mapping https://github.com/micheleg/dash-to-dock/issues/912
[09:53] <gitbot> micheleg issue 912 in dash-to-dock "Dynamic transparency UI settings broken in v66/3.32" [Bug, Regression, Open]
[09:58] <duflu> BTW, I did figure out how to open a poll (https://discourse.ubuntu.com/t/center-windows-by-default/10262/5?u=vanvugt)
[10:18] <jbicha> good morning
[10:18] <jbicha> duflu: thanks :)
[10:19] <duflu> Morning jbicha
[10:19] <duflu> Hopefully someone remembers to design that flag into gnome-control-center too
[10:19] <duflu> Along with right click methods :)
[10:20] <jbicha> duflu: there isn't a good place in g-c-c for Centre New Windows…
[10:20] <duflu> jbicha, I know, so it's a design issue before anything else
[10:21] <duflu> I know I have failed to log a bug for it. But it's also too late to matter this cycle
[10:22] <seb128> hey jbicha
[10:22] <jbicha> seb128: could you review https://code.launchpad.net/~khurshid-alam/unity-greeter/vala-fix-0.43/+merge/363878 ? I'm not a member of https://launchpad.net/~unity-greeter-team
[10:22] <seb128> jbicha, k
[10:22] <seb128> jbicha, do you know what's the status of fixing libunity for new vala?
[10:25] <jbicha> I don't know. I wasn't watching libunity. We should at least land https://code.launchpad.net/~ricotz/libunity/syntax-fixes/+merge/362923
[10:25] <seb128> well, we have that in a silo but it fails to build as described in the comment
[10:25] <seb128> the dee mapping error
[11:02] <tseliot> jibel: yes, I think I can finish the review today
[11:04] <seb128> tjaalton, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/libx11/+bug/1820509 ... do you think that's worth a SRU?
[11:34] <tjaalton> seb128: could be, but since the keyword 'security' is mentioned it might have to go through the security pocket
[11:34] <seb128> tjaalton, it has no CVE so unsure it is of interest to security, might be worth checking with them
[11:34] <seb128> let me ask on their channel
[11:37] <tjaalton> thx
[12:08] <willcooke> hi frederik-f, I forgot to say the other day, congratulations on becoming an Ubuntu Member!!
[12:08] <willcooke> \m/
[12:08] <frederik-f> Thanks willcooke ! :D And hi!
[12:09] <frederik-f> I hope the other Yaru Guys will do the same soon =D
[12:14] <clobrano> congratulation frederik-f :), my wiki page is ready, I just need to register in the agenda :)
[12:22] <xnox> willcooke, the gist of it, was that we are showing plymouth rim&reboot message, but on the wrong tty.
[12:22] <xnox> willcooke, maybe we should like try to "read" enter key on the text output too...
[12:24] <willcooke> good luck clobrano
[12:24] <willcooke> not that you need it
[12:24] <willcooke> xnox, ooh, interesting, if we could, that might be a nice option.  Shall I open a LP bug?
[12:25] <xnox> willcooke, sure.
[12:25] <willcooke> xnox, against Plymouth?
[12:27] <clobrano> willcooke: :D thanks, but I do need testimonials, so if anyone like to drop a note, I would be really grateful https://wiki.ubuntu.com/clobrano (shameless self promotion OFF)
[12:30] <willcooke> sure thin
[12:30] <willcooke> g
[12:33] <jibel> sil2100, do you have the power to trigger a build of https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-cdimage/+livefs/ubuntu/disco/ubuntu-canary/ ?
[12:42] <sil2100> jibel: is this driven by cdimage?
[12:43] <sil2100> jibel: or is it a standalone livefs build?
[12:44]  * sil2100 checks
[12:44] <jibel> sil2100, what do you mean?
[12:44] <sil2100> Ok, I see the subproject on cdimage
[12:44] <jibel> sil2100, it's a daily build that is cron'd
[12:45] <sil2100> jibel: kicking a new build now
[12:45] <jibel> sil2100, thanks
[12:46] <jibel> sil2100, FTR it's the desktop image used to land and mature experimental features
[12:47] <jibel> like multilayer filesystem for example
[12:47] <sil2100> jibel: should we perhaps add it to the isotracker? I guess you could then kick the images yourself?
[12:47] <jibel> sil2100, or give me access to nusakan
[12:48] <sil2100> Or that, yes ;)
[12:59] <xnox> willcooke, casper
[13:27] <jibel> didrocks, https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-cdimage/+livefs/ubuntu/disco/ubuntu-canary/+build/159516
[13:27] <jibel> \o/
[13:27] <didrocks> yeah, I'm looking at the artefacts as we speak :)
[13:29] <sil2100> Oh, indeed, no build-failure e-mail \o/
[13:47] <jibel> sil2100, do you know if the images are built and published somewhere?
[13:52] <sil2100> jibel: looking at the logs, I think ubuntu-cdimage isn't configured to do that, it probably doesn't recognize what to publish
[13:52] <sil2100> http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/cd-build-logs/ubuntu/disco/daily-live-20190318.2.log
[13:55]  * kenvandine is updating the disco seed for the core18 based snaps ;)
[14:12] <didrocks> seb128: do you mind creating under ~ubuntu-desktop a "canary-image" ppa (so that we can include it in our canary build)
[14:12] <didrocks> that would be great to test packages we want to stage a little bit, so that they end up in the experimental canary image before we upload to distro
[14:13] <didrocks> (I guess it should be a non virt ppa)
[14:13] <seb128> didrocks, https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-desktop/+archive/ubuntu/canary-image
[14:13] <didrocks> thx! you just created it or it was already there?
[14:14] <seb128> didrocks, you need a launchpad admin for the nonvirt part I think
[14:14] <didrocks> because I loaded the page and I saw it :p
[14:14] <seb128> I did
[14:14] <didrocks> ah, so quick :)
[14:14] <didrocks> thanks ;)
[14:14] <seb128> np
[14:14] <didrocks> I'll ask a LP admin for non virt
[14:14] <didrocks> (but not very important for now)
[14:44] <didrocks> sil2100: when you have a second: https://code.launchpad.net/~didrocks/ubuntu-cdimage/add-canary-ppa-to-exp-image/+merge/364673 please! ;)
[14:56] <tseliot> jibel: merged. Did you get a FFE?
[15:19] <seb128> ricotz, hey, could you review https://code.launchpad.net/~khurshid-alam/unity-scope-home/vala-fix/+merge/364680? I don't understand vala enough to comment...
[15:19] <jibel> tseliot, Excellent, thanks! FFe 1819207
[15:19] <jibel> bug 1819207
[15:19] <jibel> tseliot, +1 for the FFe
[15:20] <tseliot> jibel: great, I'm going to upload then
[15:30] <tseliot> jibel: uploaded
[16:09] <ricotz> seb128, done
[16:09] <seb128> ricotz, thanks!
[16:24] <seb128> clobrano, thx for merging those icons fixes. What's the process to land an update in disco now? we need a packager from the distro side to pull what is the vcs in a source upload? (do you need to make a release/tag first?)
[16:35] <clobrano> seb128: usually landing in disco was made by Laney
[16:35] <seb128> clobrano, k, he's at a hackfest this week, but maybe he has time for that
[16:35] <clobrano> seb128: included the tag, since I don't have a gpg key for that
[16:35] <seb128> Laney, do you think you can handle an yaru upload today or tomorrow to include the icons symlinks they added for 3.32 renames
[16:36] <seb128> that's blocking syncing some of the app updates
[16:36] <seb128> clobrano, thx
[16:36] <Laney> not really, but it's easy
[16:36] <Laney> clobrano makes the changelog, git tag <the version number>
[16:36] <Laney> gbp buildpackage -S a package and upload it
[16:36] <Laney> git tag -s <the version number>, that is
[16:39] <clobrano> Laney: I remember that something needed to be signed
[16:39] <seb128> didrocks, ^ do you think you could make an upload for yaru today or tomorrow?
[16:39] <clobrano> seb128, Laney  but yes I can make the changelog
[16:40] <seb128> kenvandine, bug #1799614 do you know what version of snapd-glib is needed? the SRU bug is not really clear about that
[16:40] <seb128> is 1.44 enough or does the 1.47 SRU needs to go with it?
[16:40] <seb128> clobrano, thx!
[16:40] <Laney> clobrano: the tag, yeah
[16:40] <Laney> so you push that somewhere and then clobrano can put it in the repo
[16:53] <clobrano> seb128, Laney, didrocks: changelog updated https://github.com/ubuntu/yaru/commit/065dd123ba35e8a4dd9de5d96f07dd9924feafe0
[16:54] <clobrano> I really need to go now, if necessary I can save some time later, otherwise see you tomorrow o/
[17:03] <didrocks> seb128: tomorrow, no pb
[17:03] <didrocks> want to give it a testbet before
[17:03] <didrocks> clobrano: ^
[17:03] <didrocks> clobrano: you miss the UIFe though?
[17:06] <clobrano> didrocks There should be one opened by jaggers, maybe is to be updated, I'll check again later
[17:07] <didrocks> clobrano: please check and reference it in the changelog
[17:16] <seb128> didrocks, thx
[17:16] <Laney> 😘
[18:18] <kenvandine> seb128: i really don't know
[18:18] <kenvandine> seb128: i can ask robert tonight
[18:22] <willcooke> nighty night all
[18:29] <oSoMoN> good night all
[19:38] <robert_ancell> kenvandine, Wimpress, the new "embeddable card" feature on snapcraft.io is pretty cool.
[19:38] <robert_ancell> Was looking at the gimp snap there.
[19:38] <robert_ancell> Wimpress, has there been any interest on upstream maintaining that snap?
[19:38] <Wimpress> Yep, we're switching our blogs over to use it :-)
[19:39] <Wimpress> Yes, upstream Gimp are interested.
[19:39] <kenvandine> yeah, it is
[19:39] <Wimpress> Just need to motivated the various community members involved.
[19:49] <kenvandine> robert_ancell: what happens with the SRU'd gnome-software with an older snapd-glib?
[19:49] <robert_ancell> kenvandine, which SRU?
[19:50] <kenvandine>  bug #1799614
[19:52] <robert_ancell> kenvandine, what version is "older". i.e. pre 1.45?
[19:52] <seb128> 1.44
[19:52] <kenvandine> yeah, 1.44
[19:52] <robert_ancell> they will fail to compile
[19:52] <seb128> which is what cosmic currently has
[19:52] <seb128> no it didn't?
[19:53] <robert_ancell> seb128, do you have a buildlog link handy?
[19:53] <seb128> ah
[19:53] <seb128> https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-software/3.30.2-0ubuntu10 you disabled it
[19:53] <seb128> the bug status is confusing
[19:54] <robert_ancell> seb128, oh yes, that one I disabled so the ODRS change could leapfrog the media API change.
[19:54] <robert_ancell> SRUs are fun.
[19:54] <seb128> it's listed on the SRU report page as to verify
[19:54] <seb128> someone needs to keep not to talk to the SRU team about validating the SRU once the ODRS change is validated then
[19:55] <seb128> otherwise they are going to wait on the other one to turn green which is not going to happen
[19:57] <robert_ancell> seb128, didn't slangesek fix that with his reupload? (https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-software/+bug/1799614/comments/8)
[19:57] <seb128> robert_ancell, no, see http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/pending-sru.html
[19:57] <seb128> it might consider all revisions since the previous archive one
[19:58] <robert_ancell> seb128, ah
[19:58] <robert_ancell> seb128, care to confirm the ODRS change?
[19:58] <seb128> I don't have a cosmic install handy
[19:59] <seb128> but I need to do one to validate the e-d-s/evo SRUs
[19:59] <robert_ancell> kenvandine, do you have one?
[19:59] <seb128> I can do gnome-software as well then, I try to do that tomorrow
[19:59] <robert_ancell> ok, thanks.
[19:59] <kenvandine> thanks!
[20:38] <seb128> Laney, can you add https://code.launchpad.net/~khurshid-alam/libunity/glib-2.59.3/+merge/364679 to your review backlog for when you will have cycles for it?
[20:40] <seb128> robert_ancell, btw do you plan to look at backporting those gnome-software UI changes from 3.32 (like the icon/menus) or do you need a bug/trello card in the backlog?
[20:40] <robert_ancell> seb128, open a trello task if you want them.
[20:41] <seb128> robert_ancell, k, thanks
[20:41] <robert_ancell> (assign to me)
[20:41] <seb128> robert_ancell, do you think you have the free cycles to do it?
[20:41] <seb128> or does that need 'resource/priority arbitration'?
[20:41] <seb128> I can talk to Ken I guess :p
[20:42] <robert_ancell> seb128, it's not a priority for me, but they'll be fairly easy to put into an update if you've done the FFE for them.
[20:42] <seb128> k
[23:21] <robert_ancell> Trevinho, what tz are you in :)
[23:23] <Trevinho> robert_ancell: hey... I'm in Porgual, so basically London one :)
[23:24] <Trevinho> but, well it's always relative to me :)
[23:24] <robert_ancell> Trevinho, indeed! I had a Shell question but I think I worked it out myself..
[23:26] <Trevinho> robert_ancell: ah, ok... let me know if you want.