[04:15] EEElton was added by: EEElton [04:43] Hi everyone. Before I ask a question, I would like to say that I absolutely adore KDE and more particularly Kubuntu. I'd started using Linux, Ubuntu Unity in particular as my daily driver since 2014, and it's been a riveting experience since. I've learned so much about a computer since then. I switched from Unity to Kubuntu when Unity was halted in development. It has been largely a painless transition so far. Although Unity [04:43] was built on Gnome technologies and utilizes most of the software, adjusting to KDE in Kubuntu, was mostly without any hassle. KDE offered a whole plethora of options and customizations without sacrificing perfomance or aesthetic quality. I think I have found the desktop I'm very comfortable and content with. I will donate whenever I can to ensure the continued support and existence of Kubuntu. The relegation of Unity to history has taught me [04:44] the importance of support from users. [04:49] nice to hear it! [04:49] @Elton [04:49] Unity was actually built in part using Qt as KDE is [04:50] might be one of the reasons it feels comfortable to you [04:51] I've been meaning to say it ever since I started using it. I'm glad I was able to say it. [04:51] cool! [04:52] once I tried kubuntu many years ago I never left [04:52] and once I realized that *people* made it, I wan [04:52] ted to help [04:52] so here I am [04:52] :-) [04:53] Yes, I learned so about Unity and KDE. Apparently Unity was gonna be moved to a fulltime qt infrastructure. Unfortunately it never actually happened. Although there is a community trying to make it work (UBports Unity8 desktop). However progress there is slow. [04:54] it's hard to work with a very tiny team, yeah [04:57] I find it quite fascinating that a desktop like Kubuntu actually exists, I wonder why there isn't better exposure. When I was on Unity, Kubuntu and KDE in particular was described with terms such as; unstable, slow and so on. It was after the death of Unity that more neutral reporting on it began to surface, which led me to make the swing. And I've been happier ever since. @valoriez [04:58] gnome has support from some larger companies, which KDE has only small companies and volunteers, so perhaps that's why development has been slower [04:58] we do strive for excellence though [05:00] and I think we're getting closer [05:03] Quite clearly. I think when it comes to some things, KDE does it much better than Gnome. But I have observed in Linux internet discourse that there is more favourable reporting on KDE and its merits. So you are right, KDE is getting closer. [05:03] yep [05:03] we're reaching out more as well [05:04] so a few more people are taking notice [05:06] Yes. I see that. And its paying off. The future is looking quite bright for KDE. Besides Deepin and Elementary O.S I think that in most online voter polls, KDE is lauded as one of the most robust and visually pleasing O.S [05:06] I like the other kde software as well [05:06] KDE Neon? [05:07] sure, they are buddies of ours [05:08] my favorite: konversation, the IRC client [05:09] Yep. I haven't used konversation before. I don't really use IRC platforms. I've never had an occassion to use it. [05:10] well, from my end, that's how we're talking [05:10] we have a bridge to both telegram and matrix in this channel [05:11] Really? Well I guess I'll check it out. I imagine konversation is quite similar to pidgin [05:12] pidgin isn't that great for IRC imo [05:12] but I guess it does work [05:13] I'm not very knowledgeable on the subject, but I imagine you're right. I don't use pidgin either. But I did see folks using it in their window machines. [05:13] much of the KDE software runs in windows now [05:13] not Plasma [05:14] but the applications [05:14] and in Mac, BSD, and some in Android [05:14] Yes, I can attest to that. KDEConnect is a great tool. [05:15] right, that runs in android better than desktop! [05:15] and there is even a cli mode, which.... is fun to try but I don't use it [05:17] Hehe, perhaps. It's amazing. I have used the CLI mode, its quite productive, but can be dangerous. Thankfully it dosesn't allow elevated privileges. [05:25] There are several problems I am facing, if you don't mind me talking about it. I am currently runing Kubuntu 18.10 with backported plasma 5.15.3. I think the 15.3 is a bug fix. I wonder if more are on the way. The thing is, with the updated plasma, the desktop is a bit slower than the default with 18.10. CPU cycles are higher, system slows down when copying files and the computer freezes quite regularly albeit not for long. [05:25] The desktop I use is fairly capable, so there shouldn't be much reason for this. Also, the computer fans are run at a usually high frequency, although I'm sure that has more to do with the internals of the desktop than the updated plasma itself. But I wonder if there is corelation between it. [05:27] I have never managed to download services or themes with the built in downoader. I keep getting errors such as; Open Authentication Interface Error (405) & (909) [05:28] hmmm, I suggest you talk to the Plasma team about these things [05:28] I know that there has been a new Qt release but I don't think we've gotten it yet.... [05:29] anyway, the plasma team can help you decide whether or not they want a bug report about specific things [05:29] unsure if there is a Plasma telegram channel [05:29] it's #plasma in irc and matrix [05:31] Ah I see. I guess I'll be downloading konversation quite soon. [05:31] nice [05:32] it looks different than Telegram [05:32] but imo the only advantage of telegram (to me) is that it works well on my phone [05:32] on my computer I much prefer IRC [05:34] I see. I'll probably be seeing some of those advantages soon. [05:37] Oh lately I've noticed that my desktop automatically resumes from suspend every time. Unless the power button is used. [05:38] that sounds like a bug [06:15] Oph nono was added by: Oph nono [07:23] Good morning === sysop is now known as Guest81304 [08:55] 'Morning folks === himcesjf_ is now known as him-cesjf [10:18] My laptop doesn't show any wifi networks which are available and when I connect to mobile it's connecting via USB tethering , please help me to find and connect to wifi [10:18] Thanks in advance [10:25] Chandra Sekhar, which wifi chip ? === greenfrog is now known as Greenfrog [11:46] Chandra Sehkar, and what is the output of `ip l`? === Lord_of_Life_ is now known as Lord_of_Life === Greenfrog_away is now known as Greenfrog === Greenfrog_away is now known as Greenfrog [14:51] Hi guys I've got a problem with using Kubuntu. It completely freezes after logging in. [15:02] SiDzej: Can you get to a tty in that event? [15:31] Hello everyone [15:52] hi nurikedar [16:11] Polifilo71 was added by: Polifilo71 === Greenfrog is now known as Greenfrog_away === Greenfrog_away is now known as Greenfrog [22:39] Hello. My mouse speed is a bit too fast, and nothing I do to slow it down seems to work. Everything is fine in a LiveUSB, but not on my install. Is there a way to find the config(s) controlling the faster pace? [22:56] Anybody figured out how to close or minimize the Calligra right-hand properties ribbon? I know I can undock it, but I am looking to close and re-open or at least, minimize / restore? [23:26] How do I prevent KDE from unmuting sound when I unplug headphones and who do I insult for deciding that should be default behavior? [23:32] There is a guy named Nate whom I will contact with your bug report. He has been helping reduce paper-cuts by (among other things) identifying when Kubuntu should deviate from upstream defaults. I don't always agree with him, but he is focused on improving the user experience. [23:33] What is the number (and is it on bugs.kde.org or on launchpad)? [23:39] marco-parillo[m]: If you're referring to my issue, I haven't found anything on it. I tried Google before asking here, but don't know how to categorize it. [23:39] marco-parillo[m]: Can't find a setting, etc. [23:44] It automutes when I plug the headphones back in, so maybe it's actually a bug though (inverting the mute setting instead of muting and restoring upon replug) [23:45] Got to run [23:45] If you type audio into your kicker application launcher, which program shows? Phonon? You could try that, or you could try System-Settings > Audio as the component. That is probably incorrect, but I hope the bug triage squad can re-direct it. [23:56] woohoo i got in that time [23:57] now what? [23:57] , sorry problem child [23:59] i'm squeasing my brain to remember