[00:03] <qwebirc64057> got login loop with 16.04.6 LTS
[00:04] <ubuntu16046> didn't do anything in particular. one time just turned it on and have login loop.
[00:04] <Bashing-om> qwebirc27870: At the login screen can you activate a terminal (ctl+alt+F2) and login to the system here ?
[00:05] <ubuntu16046> i'm in it with ctrl alt f3
[00:05] <ubuntu16046> yes logged in
[00:06] <Bashing-om> ubuntu16046: grahics driver loaded ' sudo lshw -C display ' ?
[00:06] <ubuntu16046> vga compatible controller fir GF108 (GT 430)
[00:06] <ubuntu16046> for*
[00:08] <Bashing-om> ubuntu16046: configuration line: driver -> is what ?
[00:09] <ubuntu16046> no such line, only display, description, product, vendor, physical id, bus info, version, width, clock, capabilities, configuration, and resources
[00:09] <ubuntu16046> there's configuration: latency=0
[00:10] <Bashing-om> ubuntu16046: we want to see "configuration: driver=nouveau" or similar .. else there is no driver loaded .
[00:10] <ubuntu16046> well i don't see that there so i guess it isn't loaded
[00:10] <ubuntu16046> but there is a GPU in the computer
[00:12] <Bashing-om> ubuntu16046: Uh Huh .. ok. we get any hints from the GPU manager ? pastebin ' cat /var/log/gpu-manager.log ' .
[00:12] <gislaved> mhh my preseed partition recipe is stopping after / and making that one big LVM partition... and I wonder why
[00:12] <matthias_> #ubuntu
[00:13] <gislaved> ?
[00:13] <gislaved> oh!
[00:13] <ubuntu16046> Not sure how I'm supposed to paste this to pastebin since I am in console mode
[00:13] <ubuntu16046> Any line you want to see?
[00:14] <jamie_1> okay, i need a quick hand, im doing a new ubuntu install, but this time i want to dissable the nvidia card before trying to boot, but im not sure how to do that from grub and im open to suggestions
[00:14] <ubuntu16046> it does say can't access u-d-c-nvidia-was-loaded file
[00:15] <ubuntu16046> is noveau blacklisted is yes
[00:15] <Bashing-om> ubuntu16046: ' cat /var/log/gpu-manager.log | nc termbin.com 9999 ' and pass the resulting URL back here .
[00:15] <Bashing-om> !nomodeset | jamie_1
[00:15] <ubuntu16046> q9oj
[00:16] <jamie_1> Bashing-om: exactly what i was looking for! thanks
[00:16] <ubuntu16046> https://termbin.com/q9oj
[00:16] <jamie_1> i know how do it from live boot, just not sure how to do it from a full install
[00:17] <Bashing-om> ubuntu16046: gave pity on me and pass the complete URl, please.
[00:17] <ubuntu16046> https://termbin.com/q9oj
[00:17] <bax3l33t> hello
[00:18] <Bashing-om> jamie_1: Boot to the grub boot menu and 'e' key to edit then in the linux line replace quiet splash with nomodeset.
[00:18] <jamie_1> so its the same as a live boot. sweet
[00:18] <jamie_1> that makes it easy
[00:20] <jamie_1> thanks again Bashing-om
[00:20] <ubuntu16046> Did you get the link bashing>
[00:20] <jamie_1> funnily im a linux engineer.... but i work on keeping live systems live XD not fixing ones that are not booting XD
[00:21] <Technological> Anyone know how to get audio working through xrdp on ubuntu 18?
[00:21] <Bashing-om> ubuntu16046: Yup -- ya done good .. but this is a new one on me "How many cards? 0" // manager sees no card ... hummm .. lemme thunk a minute.
[00:24] <Bashing-om> ubuntu16046: What shows ' dpkg -l | grep -i nvidia ' ?
[00:25] <ubuntu16046> https://termbin.com/ka2k
[00:28] <Bashing-om> ubuntu16046: Well, shows we do have the nvidia-390 driver installed, What releae are we working with ?
[00:29] <Bashing-om> release*
[00:29] <ubuntu16046> what release?
[00:30] <ubuntu16046> what release of what?
[00:30] <BrianBlaze> version of ubuntu
[00:30] <ubuntu16046> see my name
[00:30] <Bashing-om> ubuntu16046: Yeah .. I suspect as 16.04 .. but I have been wrong at least once before :P
[00:31] <ubuntu16046> Any command I can run to just reinstall the drivers?
[00:31] <ubuntu16046> I am on ethernet so should not take too long
[00:32] <jamie_1> Bashing-om: darn.... still getting stuck on boot even with nomodeset :/
[00:34] <Bashing-om> ubuntu16046: Let's re-install the driver ,, see what results .. ' sudo apt update ; sudo apt upgrade ; sudo apt remove --purge nvidia ; sudo ubuntu-drivers autoinstall ' . Have the system install the driver it thinks best from what it has to choose from.
[00:35] <Bashing-om> jamie_1: with quiet splash removed, you should see the boot messages .. what is last ?
[00:35] <jamie_1> yeah i was about to do so
[00:36] <jamie_1> crap... it went it to grub right off bat again
[00:36] <ubuntu16046> ok done
[00:37] <Bashing-om> ubuntu16046: reboot and let's then see what we have :)
[00:37] <jamie_1> this laptop is a pain in the rear XD
[00:37] <Bashing-om> jamie_1: Yukkie-poo // EFI system ?
[00:37] <bojancar> Hello, I have a problem with 18.10, after upgrading from 18.04. The screen goes black after grub loads, and I am not even sure how to print any logs. This error was triggered by me installing ROCm binaries https://rocm.github.io/ROCmInstall.html#installing-from-amd-rocm-repositories. I can manage to boot up Ubuntu if I switch kernel to the old 4.15 I had previous to the distro upgrade.
[00:37] <jamie_1> yep......
[00:37] <jamie_1> without a legacy boot option
[00:38] <jamie_1> asus tuf boot fx504gm
[00:38] <cam1170> Hey guys. I’m running Ubuntu and whenever I use QDirStat, K4DirStat, Calibre (ebook manager), or I assume anything with a big table and qt, my touchpad acts like it is clicking and dragging automatically when I touch my finger to the touchpad, whenever my mouse is over the large table part. Any tips? Works fine in WinDirStat in Wine. I believe it has the same behavior when I use an external mouse as well, like it likes to click a
[00:38] <ubuntu16046> same thing. system program problem detected flashes, then system update available flashes, then back to login screen
[00:38] <jamie_1> worst part is its my work laptop and i need it running ubuntu
[00:39] <cam1170> I've already asked this in the Linux For All discord and they sent me here.
[00:39] <Bashing-om> jamie_1: Well, sorry then ,, I have no EFI experience. Await others to guide you booting up from grub in a EFI environment ;(
[00:39] <jamie_1> Bashing-om: thats my issue XD if it was bios id be fine XD
[00:40] <Bashing-om> jamie_1: I am going to ride this ole hardware for as long as I can boot xubuntu :P
[00:41] <Bashing-om> ubuntu16046: GPU manager still can not see the card ?  /var/log/gpu-manager.log .
[00:41] <ubuntu16046> Bashing-om: btw there's an old Mint install on this computer and that one does boot, though resolution is small
[00:41] <jamie_1> work gave me this a workstation... wasnt much choice in it, at least they gave me a 6 core with a gpu.. just a matter of getting the darn thing working XD
[00:42] <Bashing-om> ubuntu16046: Well that is a good indication that the fault is not hardware related :)
[00:43] <ubuntu16046> https://termbin.com/p0x2
[00:43] <jamie_1> Bashing-om: do you think it might work if i nuke windows completely?
[00:44] <jamie_1> was trying to avoid it, but ehh... if it makes it work
[00:44] <jamie_1> i can bring windows back another time
[00:44] <Bashing-om> jamie_1: Naw .. just a matter of seeing why grub is not seeing the kernel, But I am not familiar enough with EFI to know where grub is to look.
[00:45] <jamie_1> neither am i XD i work with servers in which efi isnt a thing
[00:46] <ubuntu16046> you think there's a chance updating to 18 04 2 will fix it?
[00:47] <Bashing-om> ubuntu16046: Nope - need to fix where you are.
[00:47] <jamie_1> Bashing-om: the weird thing is its only seeing the windows fat partition as readable, the other two are reporting back no known file system detected
[00:48] <jamie_1> *3 partition
[00:48] <Bashing-om> jamie_1: Boot a liveUSB and see what ' sudo parted -l ' relates.
[00:48] <jamie_1> good idea.... ill get back to you once i know what it says
[00:49] <tomreyn> jamie_1: latest bios is version 303 (2018/11/12). is this what you have?
[00:49] <jamie_1> ill have to check tomreyn, im not in bios right now
[00:49] <tomreyn> looks like work sold you a gaming laptop as a workstation
[00:49] <Bashing-om> ubuntu16046: still scratching my head on " Is nvidia kernel module available? no " when we have a path "/lib/modules/4.4.0-143-generic/updates/dkms". What shows ' ls -al /lib/modules/4.4.0-143-generic/updates/dkms ' ?
[00:50] <tomreyn> jamie_1: this, run on a linux terminal, should tell:  dmesg -t | grep ^DMI:
[00:51] <Bashing-om> !info linux-image-generic xenial
[00:51] <ubuntu16046> https://termbin.com/7m12
[00:52] <jamie_1> im on 303 07/24/2018
[00:52] <jamie_1> tomreyn: ^
[00:52] <tomreyn> jamie_1: well it'll be the latest
[00:52] <Bashing-om> ubuntu16046: Huh ! Getting in deep now ,, could be over my head.
[00:54] <ubuntu16046> Anything you want me to test in the mint os?
[00:55] <jamie_1> Bashing-om: well this just got a lot more interesting.... there is also a nvme drive in it too... also the drive is showing there is a 600gb ext4 with a fat32 boot partition
[00:55] <jamie_1> i did not know about the nvme drive
[00:55] <tomreyn> that's not /boot, that's ESP
[00:56] <tomreyn> your efi system partition
[00:56] <jamie_1> thats what its showing as
[00:56] <jamie_1> its 578mb
[00:58] <jasmyny> ola
[00:59] <Bashing-om> ubuntu16046: I am booting 18.04 - a radical departure from 16.04 as far as nvidia graphics is concerned - Makes it sorta tough to know what should be, bear with me as I look about.
[01:00] <jamie_1> tomreyn: do you think it might work if i fully nuke windows?
[01:00] <Bashing-om> jamie_1: That ESP partition is to be a FAT file system :)
[01:01] <tomreyn> jamie_1: i don't see how it'll make ubuntu boot better, no.
[01:01] <jamie_1> its weird that ubuntu is seeing the partitions on a live boot but the grub does not see them as ext4
[01:02] <jamie_1> the only partition that it can read is the efi
[01:02] <tomreyn> jamie_1: reviewing your uefi configurations may be of use. disable secureboot, switch hard disk access mode from RAID to AHCI, if there is such.
[01:02] <jamie_1> i have secure boot dissabled.... i did that before even installing ubuntu
[01:03] <jamie_1> but ill see if there is a raid or ahci setup
[01:04] <legreffier> idk much about these, but if you're nvme chip is very recent the uefi might not be ready driver-wise to read it.
[01:04] <legreffier> maybe you need to manually activate some driver in the grub config
[01:04] <tomreyn> jamie_1: https://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/499301/troubles-while-installing-any-linux-os-on-asus-tuf-fx504
[01:05] <jamie_1> and its in ahci
[01:05] <tomreyn> those three preparatory steps may be a good idea. disabling the legacy usb only makes sense if you have current usb sticks, though. that is usb 2.0+
[01:06] <jamie_1> trying to use those settings now
[01:06] <jamie_1> fast boot might have fixed it....
[01:06] <jamie_1> but still have to wait to see if it boots
[01:07] <jamie_1> its not going to... i forgot to set nomodeset
[01:08] <jamie_1> lets see if we get any furter with nomodeset
[01:08] <jamie_1> if i can get to a terminal i should be able to get the proper system drivers
[01:08] <tomreyn> jamie_1: since this is a dual gpu system, you may want to use nouveau.nomodeset=1 rather than just nomodeset.
[01:08] <jamie_1> i have access to tty
[01:09] <jamie_1> gui does not want to show but thats better than no terminal
[01:09] <legreffier> jamie_1: nah, ubuntu will just boot with some generic driver , it'll notify a better driver is available
[01:09] <tomreyn> jamie_1: this person discusses their issues with installing ubuntu 18.04 on this system and how they worked around it: https://www.reddit.com/r/linux_gaming/comments/a4cscg/xpost_rlinuxlaptops_great_linux_experience_with/
[01:09] <tomreyn> jamie_1: i assume oyu dont have internet access on it, yet?
[01:09] <jamie_1> i have ethernet
[01:10] <tomreyn> and this ethernet connects to internet?
[01:10] <tomreyn> so you can "ping -c1 1.1.1.1" without error?
[01:10] <legreffier> great linux experience = thinkpads :D
[01:11] <Bashing-om> ubuntu16046: Let's get an idea of what/where X is looking. pastebin ' cat /var/log/Xorg.0.log ". see what we can finger out.
[01:11] <tomreyn> jamie_1: the reason i'm asking is because it'd be nice to see the "lsblk" output.
[01:12] <tomreyn> and maybe also "parted -ls"
[01:12] <ubuntu16046> https://termbin.com/aavk
[01:18] <jamie_1> okay so i have been able to install the drivers
[01:18] <jamie_1> well see how it goes when they are done installing
[01:18] <legreffier> it should "just work"
[01:19] <legreffier> my dev co-workers got newer asus with nvidia... it was just about the nomodeset thing to get them up auto-magically
[01:19] <jamie_1> with ubuntu and nvidia.... its usually not that easy
[01:19] <jamie_1> i am running in nomodeset right now
[01:19] <jamie_1> installing from tty2
[01:20] <legreffier> you don't really need accelerated 3d for installing the os
[01:20] <legreffier> idk i'm using a PC from 2011 right now. best linux experience
[01:21] <jamie_1> i use it for vm's and running other software for work so i do need everything working for the most part
[01:21] <legreffier> "the keyboard is good and it has stickers."
[01:21] <Bashing-om> ubuntu16046: Gimme a bit to read and we see what the paths are.
[01:24] <Bashing-om> ubuntu16046: Yup "NVIDIA: Failed to initialize the NVIDIA kernel module." we are going to have to get dirty and find out the why :(
[01:25] <jamie_1> drivers installed.... lets see how this goes on reboot
[01:27] <jamie_1> Bashing-om: we got ourselves a boot!
[01:27] <jamie_1> with accelerated 3d graphics
[01:30] <Bashing-om> jamie_1: Ain't tomreyn wonderful :)
[01:30] <jamie_1> Bashing-om: and tomreyn fastboot was the booting issue, then running it with nomodeset made me able to tty and install the nvidia drivers and were sitting pretty now
[01:30] <jamie_1> it was the fastboot XD and thanks a bunch both of you!
[01:31] <tomreyn> heh, i iddn't do anything useful really
[01:31] <tomreyn> congrats
[01:32] <jamie_1> i work as a system engineer so i semi know what im doing, just better at getting running systems working fully XD you helped me get it running at least
[01:32] <jamie_1> so thank you
[01:32] <jamie_1> i never would have thought about that stupid fastboot being the issues
[01:32] <tomreyn> :)
[01:32] <jamie_1> now if i can migrate my linux to my nvme drive well be great!
[01:34] <Bashing-om> ubuntu16046: ubuntu16046 We have "Using system config directory "/usr/share/X11/xorg.conf.d" .. so we start down the rabit hole/ What shows ' ls -al /usr/share/X11/xorg.conf.d ' ?
[01:40] <ubuntu16046> https://termbin.com/ucpe
[01:40] <jamie_1> herm... going from ssd to hdd is hard
[01:41] <jamie_1> this loading is painfully slow
[01:43] <Bashing-om> ubuntu16046: Not what I had anticpated - but what now shows ' ls -al /usr/share/X11/xorg.conf.d/50-nvidia-drm-outputclass.conf ' As we are looking where the module path is set.
[01:44] <Bashing-om> jamie_1: Yup .. SSD spoils us all ... I will not go back :P
[01:45] <ubuntu16046> https://termbin.com/EMZ1
[01:45] <ubuntu16046> https://termbin.com/emz1
[01:45] <jamie_1> im gonna buy another one myself that matches drive size and do a full clone
[01:48] <Bashing-om> ubuntu16046: Still not sure of what we have here ,, never seen the like , but OK, what now with ' cat /usr/share/X11/xorg.conf.d/50-nvidia-drm-outputclass.conf/nvidia-drm-outputclass.conf ' ?
[01:48] <ubuntu16046> https://termbin.com/qtev
[01:51] <jamie_1> ya know... at least i built a system setup script
[01:51] <Bashing-om> ubuntu16046: We want to see the contents of the nvidia-drm-outputclass.conf file .. see if it matches to the module path.
[01:51] <jamie_1> dont gotta do all my packages by hand :D
[01:51] <ubuntu16046> whats the command?
[01:52] <Bashing-om> ubuntu16046: As above ' cat /usr/share/X11/xorg.conf.d/50-nvidia-drm-outputclass.conf/nvidia-drm-outputclass.conf ' as "cat" rather than a "ls" :)
[01:53] <ubuntu16046> https://termbin.com/cvzw
[01:54] <zhangxaochen> if there is symbolic links C->B, B->A, can we say C->A?
[01:54] <ubuntu16046> isn't there a repair command line in windows?
[01:56] <jamie_1> isnt automation beautiful?
[02:00] <rwp> Is there a way to tell if a USB socket is 3.0 or 2.0?  The color is black which tells me 2.0 but it was spec'd to be 3.0.
[02:01] <Bashing-om> ubuntu16046: Huh and hummm .. what ever is nvidia doing ? I had expected a module path to be set. Anyway what shows for ' lsmod | grep nvidia ' . See again what we can finger out here.
[02:02] <brain_> hi
[02:03] <brain_> cjckck
[02:07] <ubuntu16046> not showing anything
[02:07] <tomreyn> rwp: if you attach devices you'll be able to see in "dmesg -w" which port it was connected to
[02:08] <tomreyn> zhangxaochen: we dont do homework assigments here
[02:08] <ubuntu16046> hang on i'm going to replace this computer and troubleshoot in a few minutes
[02:09] <Bashing-om> ubuntu16046: Yuk - I go smoke on that .. see what we can then do .
[02:09] <zhangxaochen> tomreyn, I'm not doing homework ;)
[02:16] <jamie_1> oh pretty running system
[02:18] <jamie_1> Bashing-om: https://pasteboard.co/I64JOuB.png look at all them threads :D
[02:18] <jamie_1> all the dials around the cpu circle are individual threads
[02:18] <Bashing-om> ubuntu16046: I have no idea of what is not taking place - but I do have a 16.04 with the nvidia proprietary driver. In the interest of learning I am willing to reboot into it, but we loose all the termbins you have provided thus far. Do you want to continue with my efforts ?
[02:19] <jamie_1> had to re-write my overlay to adjust for the 8 more threads
[02:20] <Bashing-om> jamie_1: Looks like you got a operating system to play with :P
[02:22] <jamie_1> oh yeah! just need to finish setting up my vm's on the new system, already have my displaylink drivers, vs code, virtualbox, nvidia drivers, my custom overlay, only thing really left to do is get my few work software stuff running :D thanks agian for the help
[02:23] <jamie_1> i might need to adjust the overlay though and move it up about 15 pixels
[02:23] <Bashing-om> ubuntu16046: Family matter to attend to .. I will be away for some time :(
[02:26] <rwp> tomreyn, dmesg -w shows the syslog trace of the device but doesn't say if it is 2.0 or 3.0.  At least not directly.  I can't tinker it out of it.  It only says "high-speed USB".
[02:39] <rwp> Ah... lspci.  Here is the hub.  Does look like 3.0.  Just an incorrect color marketing. http://termbin.com/mgaj
[02:43] <tomreyn> rwp: There are OHCI (1.1), EHCI (2.0+), XHCI (3.0+).
[02:43] <tomreyn> so yes this is a 3.0 or higher hub
[02:43] <jamie_1> tomreyn: any ideas for how i would make sure that intel gpu is still usable in case i want low power consumption on battery?
[02:44] <tomreyn> rwp: "lsusb -t" to verify the device you attached is actually on this controller
[02:45] <jamie_1> nvm... just found my answer
[02:45] <tomreyn> jamie_1: once you have working nvidia drivers they should provide a way to switch back and forth
[02:45] <jamie_1> yep, what i just found :D
[02:45] <rwp> tomreyn, That looks like a good correlation. Looks like it is: http://termbin.com/m63m
[02:46] <jamie_1> the only issue im having is that its not listing intel gpu
[02:46] <jamie_1> i lied.... im a derp
[02:48] <jamie_1> sweet, thanks tomreyn, even got a proper swap too
[02:49] <tomreyn> jamie_1: i didn't do that either ;-)
[02:49] <jamie_1> hey, you tried to point me in the right direction, i just beat ya to it
[02:49] <tomreyn> rwp: yes, looks like it. though i think this is 3.0 whereas the other hub is 3.1
[02:50] <jamie_1> only issue i always run into on dam asus laptops is the dam trackpad not working....
[02:50] <jamie_1> lets see if the standard grub modification works
[02:50] <tomreyn> jamie_1: searching for you rmodel and linux i found reports that the trackpad should work start linux 4.19
[02:50] <CarlFK> how do I type a nbs (non breaking space) into something like inkscape?   (exactly like inkscape)
[02:50] <jamie_1> let me see which kernal i have
[02:51] <jamie_1> ahhh... im on 4.18
[02:51] <jamie_1> time to do a kernal update
[02:53] <tomreyn> ubuntu 19.04 will release with a 5.0 kernel, and this will likely become available as linux-image-generic-hwe-18.04-edge in ubuntu 18.04 a couple weeks later
[02:54] <tomreyn> but you seem to be into running mainline, so i won't disturb you there ;)
[02:55] <jamie_1> tomreyn: would you happen to have a link though to the 4.19? and yes i know, i just need the mouse, this is my work computer
[02:55] <tomreyn> !mainline
[02:56] <jamie_1> thanks tomreyn
[02:56] <jamie_1> thats why i asked instead of digging... had a feeling ubottu had a link
[02:56] <tomreyn> you're welcome, jamie
[02:56] <jamie_1> thanks ubottu
[02:56] <jamie_1> should i go big and just roll into 5?
[02:57] <tomreyn> it doesn't change how much your kernel is supported. ;-)
[02:58] <jamie_1> oh i know, not at all since its mainline
[02:59] <jamie_1> screw it, 5.0 or nothing XD
[02:59] <jamie_1> well not really... if it doesnt work ill move back to 4.19
[02:59] <jamie_1> whelp, time to see if it starts properly
[03:01] <tomreyn> CarlFK: hold down compose key and press space key twice, release compose key.
[03:02] <tomreyn> at least that's how you could generate it on a text editor, from where you should be able to copy and paste it if it doesn't work in the actual application (though it should)
[03:03] <tomreyn> see also https://help.gnome.org/users/gnome-help/stable/tips-specialchars.html
[03:10] <CarlFK> tomreyn: is "compose key" aka "super key" ?
[03:11] <tomreyn> CarlFK: see the link i posted ;-)
[03:11] <tomreyn> the short answer is: most likely not
[03:14] <CarlFK> tomreyn: hmmm   I don't have this: "Click Disabled next to the Compose Key         setting."   but I have a plan B: edit the svg file and add the char in that way.  open it up in inkscape and see if it does its nbs thing.
[03:16] <eraserpencil2> hey guys, when do i know I should upgrade to a newer version of the kernel, lets say 4.20 for example
[03:16] <tomreyn> CarlFK: hex code is c2 a0
[03:18] <eraserpencil2> and why are newer kernels not necessarily a good idea
[03:21] <tomreyn> eraserpencil2: you should upgrade to a newer version of the kernel when you upgrade ubuntu (which then happens automatically), or when you have hardware which is so new that it is not supported by the time you install ubuntu.
[03:21] <tomreyn> other than that:
[03:21] <tomreyn> !latest
[03:23] <tomreyn> sometimes hardware support is also added retrospecitvely / for older hardware, but this is not as common.
[03:23] <pikapika> How do you permanently change swappiness in 18.04?
[03:24] <eraserpencil2> so...if everything works fine, don't upgrade?
[03:25] <eraserpencil2> no need to switch to 4.20 if 4.15 works fine?
[03:25] <tomreyn> pikapika: echo vm.swappiness=1 | sudo tee -a /etc/sysctl.d/20-swap.conf
[03:25] <tomreyn> eraserpencil2: exactly
[03:26] <pikapika> that basically appends the line to the end of 20-swap.conf right?
[03:26] <tomreyn> eraserpencil2: that's assuming 4.15 is the ubuntu package
[03:26] <tomreyn> pikapika: correct.
[03:26] <pikapika> the default apparently is 60
[03:26] <pikapika> I am gonna reduce it to 20 for now and see how it behaves
[03:28] <pikapika> tomreyn, will the change take place upon reboot or is there a way to make it immediately effective?
[03:29] <tomreyn> pikapika: sudo bash -c 'echo 20 > /proc/sys/vm/swappiness'
[03:29] <tomreyn> otherwise it happens at reboot
[03:30] <pikapika> I see
[03:36] <ubuntu16046> where does firefox and chrome store passwords and bookmarks on ubuntu?
[03:37] <Eickmeyer> tomreyn: In Ubuntu Studio, we take swappiness clear down to 10 by default, FYI.
[03:37] <tomreyn> makes sense to me.
[03:39] <murthy> tomreyn: hi
[03:39] <murthy> tomreyn: How to remove nick from konversation IRC client?
[03:39] <Eickmeyer> ubuntu16046: Firefox stores everything in ~/.mozilla.
[03:39] <tomreyn> ubuntu16046: firefox stores them somewhere in ~/.mozilla/firefox - chances are chromium also stores them in a dotdir in your home
[03:40] <tomreyn> murthy: no idea, maybe ask in #konversation if this exists, or in #kdem or in #kubuntu
[03:40] <Eickmeyer> ubuntu16046: Chrome stores everything in ~/.config/google-chrome
[03:40] <murthy> tomreyn: ok
[03:41] <tomreyn> i meant #kde, not #kdem there
[03:42] <ubuntu16046> still confused. i clicked on the drive and i see bin, boot, etc...
[03:42] <ubuntu16046> where do I go?
[03:43] <tomreyn> ubuntu16046: "Home"
[03:43] <ubuntu16046> and then my username
[03:43] <tomreyn> dotdirs are hidden by default in nautilus, though
[03:45] <ubuntu16046> so is it safe to just copy the .firefox folder directly to my new install of ubuntu 18 (previous was ubuntu 16)
[03:45] <tomreyn> !yy.mm
[03:46] <tomreyn> but probably so, yes.
[03:46] <ubuntu16046> they're both the LTSs
[03:46] <ubuntu16046> forgot which one
[03:47] <tomreyn> 16.04 LTS and 18.04 LTS.
[03:47] <ubuntu16046> yes
[03:48] <tomreyn> !lts | ubuntu16046 here's some geneal info on LTS
[03:49]  * tomreyn afk
[03:49] <ubuntu16046> where does vmware store its virtual machine profiles?
[03:50] <ubuntu16046> as in the actual disks with the OS install
[03:51] <abhi_> hello
[03:52] <blinky42> Trying to netboot a 16.04 LTS VM seems to fail during install with linux-image-4.4.0-143-generic  not getting installed properly?  Tail end of syslog in the install https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/zyh25TQjMB/
[03:53] <blinky42> any way to force it to use somethign older so I can get the install to work and do the update at a later date once the deps are fixed?
[03:59] <bigMouthCommie> when i launch click a download link in firefox, the download dialogue appears, and then the browser freezes.
[04:22] <Etrigan63> How does one enable OpenCL into a snap? I am trying to enable OpenCL in LibreOffice.
[04:29] <Kon-> !info linux-image-generic-hwe-18.04
[04:35] <Cypher100> Anyone here using Ubuntu Server as a router? I'm thinking about giving that a shot
[04:36] <BertyCoX> idk
[04:59] <lubuntu1804> got an issue. mouse seems to sometimes get stuck and place and then jump a bit
[04:59] <lubuntu1804> quite annoying
[04:59] <lubuntu1804> fresh install of lubuntu, but was happening with ubuntu gnome as well
[05:00] <murthy> lubuntu1804: wireless mouse?
[05:01] <lubuntu1804> wired. seems stopped happening after connecting to usb 3.0 slot
[05:01] <murthy> lubuntu1804: whats your processor?
[05:01] <lubuntu1804> i5 3.4GHz, 8GB memory, dual HD5450 GPUs
[05:03] <murthy> lubuntu1804: Sometimes high cpu usage could make the mouse jumpy
[05:03] <murthy> lubuntu1804: have you enabled swap?
[05:03] <lubuntu1804> when I'm mousing over the lubuntu start menu, I will mouse over an item, but it will take like a second for it turn blue sometimes
[05:03] <lubuntu1804> swap? dunno this is fresh whole drive install of 18.04
[05:04] <unshackled> hey where would one report a minor bug with the picture of the day background changer? not really a bug so much as ther eis a api/cert problem with  flickr and earth science
[05:05] <unshackled> if its a new install it may be busy indexing files for search
[05:05] <unshackled> install htop and see whats burning red
[05:06] <unshackled> or give it a few minutes to finish
[05:06] <unshackled> lubuntu1804 is generally pretty spiffy for me even on old harwarez
[05:07] <lubuntu1804> how weird...only happens when mouse is plugged into usb 2.0. 3.0 it works fine
[05:07] <unshackled> oh
[05:08] <unshackled> hey lubuntu1804 have you ever installed preload? i bet that would speed things up for you
[05:08] <unshackled> my sisterwives swear by it
[05:10] <unshackled> or just do "top" in terminal and see if its pegged at 100%
[05:12] <lubuntu1804> if what's pegged?
[05:12] <unshackled> CPU use
[05:12] <lubuntu1804> root uses 65%
[05:13] <lubuntu1804> %cpus = 0.1 us
[05:15] <unshackled> ok if it not burnin ram or cpu then its a usb issue right?
[05:15] <yian_desktop> hello
[05:15] <BertyCoX> hi
[05:15] <unshackled> yes hello
[05:16] <yian_desktop> my touch screen pad isn't working stably in ubuntu 18.04
[05:16] <yian_desktop> has anyone got similar experience?
[05:16] <lubuntu1804> i guess. can't think of anything else. maybe the 2.0 headers are messed up?
[05:16] <unshackled> is it a HP touch screen?
[05:17] <yian_desktop> no it's a chinese made i7 tablet
[05:17] <unshackled> have you checked in system settings ?
[05:18] <unshackled> there is some tweaks in there
[05:18] <yian_desktop> sometimes if I poweroff the computer there isn't touch screen response, but if I reboot, it would come back
[05:19] <yian_desktop> it's not totally dysfuntional, but just not very robust and stable
[05:20] <yian_desktop> I tried rmmod hid-multitouch and modprobe hid-multitouch, that would disable the touchscreen
[05:20] <lubuntu1804> in lub 18.04 how to put trash icon on desktop?
[05:28] <unshackled> if i were you, i would re-install Kubuntu 18.10
[05:29] <unshackled> then do tasksel and tick KDE-full and Ubuntu-Studio Desktop
[05:30] <unshackled> Lubuntu is like, for emergencies only'like if you find a computer on the curb on garbage day >> Lubuntu is your Higher Power
[06:00] <T01> hi
[06:00] <lotuspsychje> good morning T01
[06:13] <Icem4n> anyone know why I cant ssh into a server unless I ping it and then it allows the connection?
[06:14] <lotuspsychje> Icem4n: maybe try #openssh or you feel its an ubuntu issue?
[06:15] <lotuspsychje> Icem4n: client & server desktop or server?
[06:16] <Icem4n> Dsktop
[06:16] <lotuspsychje> Icem4n: can you nmap the server ip, see if ssh server is running?
[06:18] <Icem4n> Sshd is running. lik i said it only accept the connecting if i ping it
[06:19] <Icem4n> tcp        0      0 0.0.0.0:22              0.0.0.0:*               LISTEN      164/sshd
[06:19] <Icem4n> New install of ubuntu 18.04 too
[06:19] <Icem4n> very strange
[06:20] <undecidable> #/j ubuntu-server
[06:30] <qwebirc89209> Hi, I would like to ask for help with the issue I am experiencing with ubuntu 18.10. /proc/cpuinfo not showing vxm flag on i7 7700hq (support is enabled in BIOS) and erlier I was working with centos 7 release 1810 nad fedora 29 where flag exist in /proc/cpuinfo. VXM support is needed for kvm where I need to spin arounf d 10 VM (without vxm support it is not possible too slow). I would be glad if somone could point me where I sh
[06:32] <ryuo> qwebirc89209: what are you talking about? KVM doesn't require such a thing.
[06:32] <ryuo> Oh, it's typoed.
[06:33] <qwebirc89209> I know it wont require but to spin 10 VM without it is simply to slow
[06:33] <ryuo> VMX?
[06:33] <qwebirc89209> and I am more interested why it is not showing this flag
[06:34] <qwebirc89209> yes sorry typo twice
[06:34] <ryuo> qwebirc89209: did you grep for vmx?
[06:34] <qwebirc89209> yes
[06:34] <qwebirc89209> on ubuntu 18.10 with the last kernel from apt upgrade it is not showing
[06:34] <qwebirc89209> on fedora on centos it was there
[06:36] <ryuo> my server shows the flag on 18.04. not sure if the kernel plays a factor there.
[06:36] <qwebirc89209> In case I will today test with ubuntu 18.04 LTS
[06:37] <ryuo> qwebirc89209: your feature is called VT-x, which is for virtio acceleration i believe...
[06:37] <ryuo> VT-d is what i was thinking of before.
[06:37] <qwebirc89209> so I will see if it is a bug in 18.10 or maybe something has changed. Till know all pages I found telling that it means the CPU does not support virtualization but in this case it is not true
[06:37] <qwebirc89209> Yes
[06:37] <ryuo> well, it usually means hardware support isn't present.
[06:38] <qwebirc89209> lscpu is showing virt type VT-x but I dont have flag in /proc/cpuinfo so kvm tell it is not supported
[06:38] <qwebirc89209> ryuo I found it butr why it is not supported on Ubuntu and it was supported on Centos ??
[06:38] <qwebirc89209> on the same hardware :)
[06:38] <ryuo> it's probably a kernel issue, if anything, providing the BIOS was using the same settings.
[06:39] <qwebirc89209> ok I will try 18.04 or compile newer kernel and see if it is working
[06:39] <ryuo> if you need such a critical feature, i'd suggest sticking with an LTS release.
[06:39] <lotuspsychje> qwebirc89209: compiling own kernels are also not supported here, instead use !mainline kernels
[06:39] <qwebirc89209> ok
[06:40] <qwebirc89209> Ok thanks for help I will see how it is on LTS release and eventually be back with more info. Have a nice day.
[06:40] <lotuspsychje> qwebirc89209: good luck
[07:40] <zamba> which version of php is the one that's supposed to be used in ubuntu 18.04?
[07:40] <zamba> i have both 7.0 and 7.2 installed
[07:40] <zamba> and that leads to conflicts, as i don't have all modules for php installed in both
[07:41] <Ben64> !info php bionic
[07:41] <Ben64> looks like 7.2 is the one
[07:44] <qwebirc98219> Hi, I'm trying to net-install an ubuntu via PXE which worked like a charm in the past, but now I'm getting the following error: Failed to load installer component     Loading libc6-udeb failed for unknown reasons. Aborting.
[07:46] <qwebirc98219> Any ideas on where to look for the error or how to possibly fix this.
[07:46] <qwebirc98219> The installer won't even let me open a shell... :-(
[08:07] <munsking_> hello, i'm using ubuntu with a different window manager(awesome). i need to modify a printer, but the size settings are in inches, where are the settings to change it to metric? (i can get to settings, i just need to know which one)
[08:08] <munsking_> nevermind, found it, it's a part of the regional settings
[08:36] <LevierMRQ> Hi.  I rebooted my computer while the "gnome-software %U" was installing something.  So now the "gnome-software %U" do not start.  After my computer looks to start,(and processor activity seems to work at normal, then falls near zero`without any warning or error message.  I told everywhere than Ubuntu better than MS.  I feel upset about this installation, can help please?
[08:55] <BluesKaj> 'Morning folks
[08:56] <zizifestiff> bite
[09:04] <ppf> i'm still fighint my audio :(
[09:04] <ppf> chrome and firefox can't access the microphone
[09:04] <ppf> in pavucontrol, they don't show up as 'connected' to the source
[09:04] <ppf> what can i do to debug?
[09:20] <jamila> liste des reseaux
[09:49] <BluesKaj> !fr | jamila
[09:59] <lotuspsychje> ppf: its not the first time you come ask for support, send all the details to the channel you know the drill right
[10:02] <ppf> sorry: ubuntu bionic. when i try to use the microphone in chrome or firefox, it doesn't show up. neither chrome nor firefox appear in pavucontrol as 'Recording'. the mic works in games or mumble, e.g.
[10:03] <ppf> chrome and firefox don't have any meaningful microphone settings or anything, they can just allow or block access.
[10:14] <ppf> lotuspsychje: my primary question is how to get more intel on this. there's no errors, warnings, or even any settings i can try, just does not work
[10:16] <alazred> ppf: In firefox in the settings privacy & security section have some control on camera and mic
[10:16] <ppf> alazred: only security settings though
[10:16] <ppf> i can allow or block access to it for sites
[10:19] <alazred> ppf: What are you trying to do exactly ?
[10:19] <ppf> use the microphone in firefox or chrome
[10:22] <matteotanca> hi all, ppf I had same problem in the past, solved with this site help https://www.onlinemictest.com/
[10:23] <ppf> matteotanca: that's just to test though, but how does it help to detect the problem?
[10:25] <matteotanca> not just a test
[10:25] <ppf> how so? because of the troubleshooting tips?
[10:26] <ppf> what's the name of the sound-settings app referenced there, how'd i start it from a terminal/
[10:34] <matteotanca> I guess you can use gnome-control-center and select Audio tab in 18.04
[10:34] <ppf> zsh: abort (core dumped)  gnome-control-center :D
[10:34] <matteotanca> the site references the xenial one
[10:34] <ppf> i'm not using gnome though
[10:35] <matteotanca> what are you using?
[10:35] <matteotanca> ubuntu uses gnome shell
[10:35] <ppf> and also it's cosmic, not bionic, my bad
[10:35] <ppf> awesome-wm
[10:35] <matteotanca> OMG
[10:35] <ppf> no DE
[10:36] <matteotanca> sorry I'm not able to help, never used cosmic or awesome-wm
[10:36] <ppf> i'm not sure either is relevant to the problem
[10:37] <ppf> (i mean, cosmic probably is, one way or the other)
[10:37] <JediMaster> Hi. What's the official EOL date for 14.04 LTS? All I can see on the site is April, is it exactly 5 years since the release, e.g. 17th April 2019?
[10:39] <matteotanca> I think 30 April 2019
[10:39] <Trangar> Yeah seems to be the 30th
[10:39] <matteotanca> ppf, sure it is, cosmic uses a different kernel, pulseaudio and DE
[10:39] <Trangar> Google preview shows the 30th, but the actual article doesn't mention a date
[10:39] <matteotanca> thats why I use only LTS versions
[10:40] <JediMaster> There's a blog.ubuntu.com entry that states April 2019, but the cached copy Google has says the 30th
[10:40] <JediMaster> Trangar, snap =)
[10:40] <ppf> matteotanca: hence my addendum. but i'm not looking for a specific _solution_, i'm looking for help to find what the _problem_ is
[10:40] <matteotanca> they are stable and just work. With non LTS versions you may encounter a lot of this bugs
[10:40] <BluesKaj> JediMaster, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Releases
[10:40] <Trangar> JediMaster: I prefer apt
[10:40] <JediMaster> haha
[10:41] <JediMaster> BluesKaj, thanks, but it still only states April 2019, no date
[10:41] <Trangar> I think it's until the last day in april
[10:41] <Trangar> I wonder if they'll actually do a final security update on that day
[10:42] <BluesKaj> JediMaster, it's close enough to think about upgrading :-)
[10:42] <Ben64> should have stuff sorted out by April 1st
[10:42] <JediMaster> Have been doing it for the last 4 months =)
[10:43] <JediMaster> just last client is dragging their feet a little
[10:43] <matteotanca> what you guys are doing about php 7.0 in your xenial servers?
[10:43] <JediMaster> vast majority were already on 16.04 or 18.04
[10:43] <JediMaster> php 7.x was the main issue with our upgrades
[10:43] <Trangar> Just install win7, so you'll have to upgrade again at the end of the year
[10:43] <Ben64> php7 works well
[10:44] <JediMaster> Upgrading the web app or patching it to be compatible was the only solution
[10:44] <matteotanca> yeah, I don't know if xenial will give us an upgrade to php 7.1 or 7.2, so I'm raplacing my xenials with bionic
[10:44] <JediMaster> There aren't many changes in PHP 7 that aren't backwards compatible, but there are a few minor ones. The performance improvement is huge however
[10:45] <ppf> are there any other meaningful sound settings apps besides pavucontrol?
[10:45] <Ben64> matteotanca: very unlikely for versions of a package to change in a release
[10:45] <matteotanca> I'm worried about php7.0 EOL
[10:45] <JediMaster> Ah ok, yes, well in theory Ubuntu should be responsible for patching it with LTS
[10:46] <Ben64> yep, that's a benefit of LTS
[10:46] <JediMaster> There was also a post EOL update from PHP directly
[10:46] <matteotanca> my doubt is, if php.net says that 7.0 is in EOL, php 7.0 in xenial will be EOL too? Will reach securities updates also if is in EOL?
[10:46] <Ben64> the ubuntu security team will keep up with it
[10:47] <matteotanca> thats a good news
[10:47] <JediMaster> In theory Ubuntu will be keeping security updates going until EOL of the LTS
[10:47] <quiche> Are there any plans for a Deepin-flavoured Ubuntu distro ??
[10:47] <matteotanca> wonderful
[10:48] <lotuspsychje> keep it ontopic guys
[10:48] <lotuspsychje> we have a nice #ubuntu-discuss channel
[10:48] <ppf> can i run the gnome sound settings app, e.g., without running gnome?
[10:51] <Triffid_Hunter> ppf: sure
[10:51] <ppf> Triffid_Hunter: how?
[10:52] <Triffid_Hunter> ppf: uhh just type its name into your run dialog or a terminal or click on it in your menu or whatever.. how do you usually start programs?
[10:52] <ppf> Triffid_Hunter: what's it's name :)
[10:53] <ppf> is it a standalone program? how do i know its name?
[10:53] <Triffid_Hunter> ppf: ah, that I don't know as I don't use gnome
[10:53] <ppf> Triffid_Hunter: yes, same here, otherwise i wouldn't need to ask
[10:54] <ppf> Triffid_Hunter: i'm not looking for gnome specifically, just something to configure sound
[10:54] <Triffid_Hunter> ppf: pavucontrol perhaps?
[10:54] <ppf> my current hypothesis is that chrome and firefox ask some user-level config thingy what the microphones are
[10:55] <ppf> and the response is "what's a microphone" or something ...
[10:56] <alazred> ppf: with the previous message error you posted it seems that you have gnome-control-center installed.
[10:56] <ppf> because it's super confusing that _both_ don't work.
[10:56] <ppf> alazred: i have
[10:56] <ppf> apparently
[10:58] <ppf> i think pulse is working okay. mumble is able to talk to it. and since neither firefox nor chrome report an error, i suspect they're not even _trying_ to talk to it
[10:59] <nightware> sup
[10:59] <ppf> nightware: everything is broken
[10:59] <Triffid_Hunter> ppf: firefox is pulse-only afaik unless you're running an old version.. possibly it's just pulse itself being dumb as a post like usual
[10:59] <nightware> life will get fine, its ok
[11:00] <ppf> Triffid_Hunter: sure that's possible, but how do i find out which it is :p
[11:04] <ppf> and because everyone is using the browsers all the google hits are for the trivial solutions and problems :(
[11:06] <neure> how do i make wifi hotspot with ubuntu 18.10?
[11:07] <EriC^^> neure: this should work https://www.linuxuprising.com/2018/09/how-to-create-wi-fi-hotspot-in-ubuntu.html
[11:08] <neure> I found it
[11:08] <neure> but the button is very well hidden
[11:08] <neure> I bet no-one will find it
[11:08] <Triffid_Hunter> neure: I found out recently that my wifi card can be an AP while also connected to another wifi network the other day, very useful! followed https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Software_access_point
[11:53] <Lucifer333> hey
[11:53] <anibic> On which date SPOILER vulnerability discovered ?
[11:54] <Lucifer333> got myself in a twist with docker and ubuntu
[11:54] <Lucifer333> maybe someone can help
[11:54] <Lucifer333> isolated the problem in this little repo here https://github.com/jacobbogers/docker-bind-vol-test
[11:54] <Lucifer333> is this an issue with docker or some kind of ubuntu issue
[11:55] <anibic> Hey murthy
[11:56] <murthy> anibic: hi
[11:57] <anibic> r u located in India ?
[11:57] <murthy> tomreyn: I just got help from #ubuntu and corrected the nick behaviour, I have increased my auto away time from 10 mins to 20 mins, Do you want me to increase more?
[11:57] <murthy> anibic: ya
[11:57] <anibic> I am from Kolkata
[11:57] <murthy> anibic: Great
[11:58] <murthy> anibic: We are on the same timezone
[11:58] <anibic> Where r u from ?
[11:58] <murthy> anibic: south
[11:58] <anibic> B'lore ?
[11:59] <murthy> anibic: come to #ubuntu-discussions
[11:59] <anibic> ok
[11:59] <murthy> anibic: wait
[12:03] <murthy> anibic: come to #ubuntu-offtopic
[12:09] <BluesKaj> murthy, it's #ubuntu-discuss
[12:12] <murthy> BluesKaj: oh there is also #ubuntu-offtopic
[12:21] <Ribo> HI all, mysql-server 5.7 is not compatible with elementary os Juno 5.0 that is based on ubuntu 18.04. I am thinking to switch to ubuntu 18.04. is ubuntu 18.04 stable ?
[12:22] <lotuspsychje> !derivatives | Ribo
[12:23] <RSpliet> It looks like Ubuntu kernel 4.4.0-143-generic is API incompatible with earlier versions from the 4.4.0 branch. Compared against 4.4.0-142, in include/linux/mm.h the get_user_pages() method has had the "force" boolean flag removed.
[12:24] <lotuspsychje> RSpliet: if you find a bug in ubuntu, please file the !bug
[12:24] <Ribo> ok i understand. is ubuntu 18.04 compared to 16.04?
[12:25] <lotuspsychje> Ribo: depends on wich flavor/DE you want to use
[12:26] <RSpliet> lotuspsychje: Thank you. I'd like to understand whether this is a bug as such. In a Fedora world such APIs could break all the time. I was under the impression that it's Ubuntu policy to avoid these API changes at least between updates of a kernel of the same major.minor.patch version to ensure out-of-tree drivers remain building. Is this a correct assumption?
[12:27] <RSpliet> !bug
[12:28] <ducasse> RSpliet: you should ask in #ubuntu-kernel
[12:28] <RSpliet> ducasse: thanks!
[12:44] <Ribo> why E: ? E: Could not get lock /var/cache/apt/archives/lock – open (11: Resource temporarily unavailable) or what does E stand for?
[12:45] <geirha> Error
[12:45] <jeremy31> Ribo, multiple softwares open for updates, install
[12:45] <leftyfb> Ribo: did you use sudo? Got another packaging application open/running?
[12:47] <leftyfb> Ribo: we do not support Juno here. Please feel free to ask for help when you are running the official Ubuntu 18.04
[12:56] <Lucifer333> exit
[12:56] <Lucifer333> lol
[12:57] <unshackled> anyone know how to fix the cert errors on the picture of the day desktop image changer? it looks like earth science and now flickr have a cert error
[12:57] <unshackled> maybe the access to the api expired?
[12:59] <unshackled> Ribo I was getting that craclklib error on skywave linux, i finally just re-installed kubuntu
[13:00] <pragmaticenigma> unshackled: flickr shut down
[13:00] <pragmaticenigma> unshackled: let me rephrase... flickr had a huge change made, free accounts were suspended I believe
[13:00] <unshackled> pragmaticenigma thanks i did not know
[13:00] <pragmaticenigma> which probably means the api's are shutdown
[13:01] <espBerry> how can i install deb file?
[13:02] <unshackled> espBerry I use gdebi
[13:02] <rypervenche> espBerry: What program are you trying to install and why?
[13:02] <espBerry> libiio-0.17.g5bdc242-ubuntu-18.04-amd64.deb
[13:02] <unshackled> if its a .deb file it should install on double or single clicking
[13:03] <espBerry> ah thanks unshackled :)
[13:05] <jeremy31> espBerry: > sudo dpkg -i libiio-0.17.g5bdc242-ubuntu-18.04-amd64.deb
[13:06] <espBerry> jeremy31: i will install it using double click
[13:08] <lotuspsychje> espBerry: why dont you install the one from the repos?
[13:09] <espBerry> lotuspsychje: what do you mean?
[13:10] <lotuspsychje> !info libiio0 bionic | espBerry
[13:11] <espBerry> ubottu: so how can i install it?
[13:11] <rypervenche> espBerry: sudo apt install libiio0
[13:14] <espBerry> sudo dpkg -i libiio-0.17.g5bdc242-ubuntu-18.04-amd64.deb   —> pkg-deb: error: paste subprocess was killed by signal (Broken pipe)
[13:14] <espBerry> Errors were encountered while processing:  jeremy31
[13:15] <BluesKaj> wrong version perhaps
[13:16] <espBerry> how can i know linux version?
[13:17] <murthy> espBerry: "uname -r" is the command
[13:17] <FrameFever> is it possible to provide a temporarily a host resolution in a terminal?
[13:17] <BluesKaj> I mean libiio version
[13:17] <espBerry> 4.15.0-20-generic
[13:19] <BluesKaj> think the default libiio version for latest ubuntu is  0.16-1
[13:19] <carrot_> Good morning! :) After a system update my external monitor is no longer being detected.
[13:19] <carrot_> My laptop is a Dell Inspiron 15 7567
[13:19] <carrot_> Distro 18.04 Bionic Beaver
[13:19] <carrot_> Graphics Card : Geforce GTX
[13:19] <carrot_> NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1050Ti
[13:19] <carrot_> Xrandr output:  https://pastebin.com/EwmBuuj7
[13:20] <BluesKaj> heh
[13:21] <BluesKaj> !enter | carrot_
[13:22] <carrot_> Oh sorry about that,
[13:22] <pragmaticenigma> FrameFever: No, it is not possible to add a temporary resolution in a terminal session. You will need to modify the hosts file, or create a virtualized environment to modify the host file for only your local purposes
[13:25] <pragmaticenigma> espBerry: try the command rypervenche provided earlier:  sudo apt install libiio0
[13:26] <espBerry> ah yeah thanks
[13:27] <pragmaticenigma> espBerry: Typically it is unnecessary to install packages directly using their .deb files. You are encouraged to use the apt package manager as much as possible. This will ensure dependencies are properly installed and you can update the software later as well as easily remove it when you no longer need it.
[13:28] <espBerry> ah thanks programmerq :)
[13:28] <FrameFever> pragmaticenigma: I found this here: https://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/6887/can-i-create-override-dns-similar-to-writing-in-etc-hosts-without-root-access
[13:29] <pragmaticenigma> Thank you, I learned something new! :-)
[13:39] <jgh-> hi im looking at installing ubuntu server 18.04 alongside an existing windows partition.  I have resized the windows partition and am in the manual partition screen of the installer (the other options being to use the entire disk)
[13:40] <jgh-> I don't see other partitions listed, and Add Partition allows me to create a partition up to the full size of the disk, so i'm a bit concerned that it will overwrite the existing partitions
[13:41] <lordcirth> jgh-, how did you resize the partition? Are you sure you only have one drive?
[13:41] <jgh-> I have two drives, one of them is fully owned by windows and the other is half windows. I resized it using the windows disk manager. It's a 500GB disk and has 200GB free right now for linux to take over
[13:42] <jgh-> this is in the text-based installer, not the GUI installer by the way.
[13:43] <OerHeks> jgh-, install next to windows/uefi ?
[13:44] <jgh-> yeah, dual boot windows and ubuntu.
[13:45] <OerHeks> !uefi
[13:45] <jgh-> yes it is uefi
[13:46] <OerHeks> so if you choose minimal iso (=textmode)  that iso does not support UEFI yet..
[13:47] <OerHeks> server iso doe, just make sure you boot in uefi mode
[13:47] <OerHeks> c/doe/does
[13:48] <jgh-> mmm it's the server iso not minimal
[13:49] <jgh-> ubuntu-18.04.2-live-server-amd64.iso
[13:49] <OerHeks> if you do not boot in uefi mode, it does not see partitions, nor if you boot in fastboot ( not secure boot)
[13:49] <OerHeks> uefi manual gives some help, disable fastboot, and other stuff, and make sure you choose UEFI in bootoption
[13:49] <jgh-> ok, i'll go through the bios docs ... new pc :P
[13:50] <ioria> jgh-,  or you might have the Sata settings in bios set to Raid (not to achi)or even an old bug (in that case try with 16.04, and do-release-upgrade after the install)
[13:50] <OerHeks> ah, good spot ioria, yes AHCI
[13:50] <jgh-> ok
[14:11] <eraserpencil1> hi... i was playing around with my graphic cards drivers and might have deleted a crucial file. I cant seem to boot into Ubuntu now. After the grub page, my screen just blinks. I ran failsafe mode in a recovery kernel and I get this error similar to http://alexsleat.co.uk/2011/03/04/how-to-fix-fatal-server-error-no-screens-found-ubuntu/comment-page-1/
[14:12] <eraserpencil1> but their fixes didnt help. would anyone have a suggestion?
[14:17] <BluesKaj> !pm | carrot_
[14:25] <pragmaticenigma> eraserpencil1: you could try reinstalling the graphics driver package: "sudo apt-get install --reinstall {package}"
[14:25] <eraserpencil1> errr i need help fixing my X11 configuration?
[14:25] <eraserpencil1>  i don't think it's about my graphic drivers
[14:26] <eraserpencil1> I think my /usr/share/X11/xorg.conf is missing
[14:27] <eraserpencil1> am i suppose to have one?
[14:27] <pragmaticenigma> eraserpencil1: I don't have that file in that path... try the reinstall
[14:27] <eraserpencil1> i tried reinstalling already
[14:28] <mjayk> eraserpencil1, a fresh install gave you the same problem?
[14:28] <OerHeks>  /etc/X11/xorg.conf would be the regular place to look
[14:28] <eraserpencil1> so theres a failsafeX  option in the recovery menu
[14:28] <pragmaticenigma> eraserpencil1: Without you having kept track of what you were doing, we can only guess
[14:28] <leftyfb> eraserpencil1: what exactly are you trying to accomplish?
[14:28] <eraserpencil1> and when i click it, I get a "Fatal server error: no screens found (EE)"
[14:31] <mjayk> eraserpencil1, does sound like a reinstall would be quickest way to solve your problem, then just restore your backups
[14:32] <eraserpencil1> mjayk: a fresh install would probably fix it, but im trying not to do one.
[14:32] <pragmaticenigma> eraserpencil1: It honestly sounds like more time would be spent trying to troubleshoot, and then repair. I would also recommend a reinstall. And remember to make a backup of your system before you start changing configurations. Then it's a quick restore to bring it back online
[14:33] <pragmaticenigma> eraserpencil1: Before each configuration change, driver tweak, or other system change, I make a backup image of my system using clonezilla. When I make a mistake, I can get back to the beginning within 5 minutes with a restore
[14:35] <eraserpencil1> hmmm
[14:35] <gyles19> I'd try purging the X11 packages and re-installing them.
[14:36] <eraserpencil1> it sounds like missing X11 config files or something.
[14:36] <leftyfb> eraserpencil1: it's not worth it
[14:36] <eraserpencil1> Guess I'll try purging them and reinstalling it or install a new wm and see if something gets populated
[14:38] <eraserpencil1> will try reinstalling ubuntu if all fails. thanks
[14:52] <carrot_> Hi does anyone know why my external monitor works when I boot to my usb recovery disk and not when I boot to my main desktop? My external monitor stopped working after a recent update. My distro is Ubuntu 18.04 and graphics card is NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1050Ti.
[14:53] <lordcirth> carrot_, what graphics drivers?
[14:53] <lordcirth> Also, are you running the hwe kernel?
[14:53] <carrot_>  nvidia-418 driver
[14:54] <OerHeks> carrot_, did removing xorg do anything?
[14:54] <carrot_> lordcirth how would I find out if Im running hwe kernel?
[14:54] <carrot_> OerHeks no
[14:54] <lordcirth> carrot_, uname -a
[14:54] <lordcirth> hwe for 18.04 is kernel 4.18
[14:55] <OerHeks> one would know if HWE is added ..
[14:56] <lordcirth> Unless one installed the 18.04.1 ISO, iirc?
[14:56] <carrot_> This is the result I got when entering that command: uname -a Linux carrot-Inspiron-15-7000-Gaming 4.15.0-46-generic #49-Ubuntu SMP Wed Feb 6 09:33:07 UTC 2019 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[14:56] <lordcirth> Ok, so you're running generic kernel
[14:57] <Southern_Gentlem> *shutter*
[14:58] <Simplar> Hello! Is there a reliable tool to extract audio from video?
[14:58] <carrot_> Would running a generic kernel cause this issue?
[15:00] <lordcirth> carrot_, no, either should work, I just thought it would be good to know
[15:00] <lordcirth> Simplar, ffmpeg can do just about anything with audio and video files
[15:00] <OerHeks> carrot_, you can try, add HWE and reboot
[15:00] <OerHeks> !hew
[15:00] <OerHeks> !hwe
[15:01] <OerHeks> sudo apt-get install --install-recommends linux-generic-hwe-18.04 xserver-xorg-hwe-18.04
[15:01] <anibic> Any Ubuntu Software that can erase DVD-RAM media ?
[15:01] <carrot_> Ok I'll try that.
[15:01] <OerHeks> make sure you are up2date > sudo apt dist-upgrade
[15:01] <anibic> Brasero does not recognize DVD-RAM media.
[15:02] <lordcirth> anibic, secure erase, or just erase?
[15:03] <lordcirth> anibic, you could probably use dd or shred, but I don't know how much wear that will produce. Why do you still have a DVD-RAM>
[15:03] <anibic> My uncle gifted 3 from Germany.
[15:04] <anibic> They are tolerant to error.
[15:04] <Simplar> lordcirth, ffmpeg seems awesome! ;o
[15:05] <anibic> Just erase
[15:05] <lordcirth> anibic, reformatting it with mkfs will erase it and give you a usable, empty filesystem.
[15:08] <anibic> what are the commands
[15:08] <anibic> plz help me
[15:10] <lordcirth> anibic, it is probably best for you to use Disk utility, or install and use GParted.
[15:10] <lordcirth> anibic, I'm curious, how large are these DVD-RAMs?
[15:12] <deanman> Is there a quicker way from `fg` to bring a job in the foreground? Like a shortcut ctrl-z which sends it to the background?
[15:13] <AmarOk1412> hmm, is debhelper broken on Ubuntu 18.10?
[15:13] <AmarOk1412> In a docker running ubuntu 18.10, I have
[15:14] <AmarOk1412> 22:51:47    dh_installman
[15:14] <AmarOk1412> 22:51:47 /bin/sh: error while loading shared libraries: libc.so.6: cannot open shared object file: Permission denied
[15:14] <lordcirth> AmarOk1412, what are the permissions on  libc.so.6?
[15:14] <gyles19> deanman: Which shell are you running?  The shells I use, ^Z pauses a job, and you have to 'bg' that to send it to background running.
[15:15] <deanman> gyles19, fish
[15:16] <deanman> gyles19, I'm on Vim and i usually send a ctrl-z to gain quickly shell access so to resume Vim i end up doing fg so i was wondering whether others found a better way for this type of workflow
[15:16] <AmarOk1412> lordcirth: the file is correct, but when stracing dh_installman, I see a Inappropriate ioctl for device
[15:17] <lordcirth> AmarOk1412, I suspect a docker-specific problem
[15:17] <gyles19> deanman: I just googled that, their docs suggest it behaves just like normal shells.  ^Z suspends the current job.  And I use vim daily, and I do exactly the same thing.  ^Z suspends vim, I do stuff, then I just fg to get it back.  I've never tried aliasing a control character to save typing two.
[15:17] <AmarOk1412> ls -la /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libc.so.6
[15:17] <AmarOk1412> lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 12 Aug 23  2018 /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libc.so.6 -> libc-2.28.so
[15:17] <lordcirth> AmarOk1412, um, libc is world-writable?
[15:18] <lordcirth> Oh, it's a symlink
[15:18] <anibic> They are 4.7 GB , 3x, 120 min , Verbatim made.
[15:18] <AmarOk1412> lordcirth: yeah me to /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libc.so.6
[15:18] <AmarOk1412> GNU C Library (Ubuntu GLIBC 2.28-0ubuntu1) stable release version 2.28.
[15:18] <AmarOk1412> Copyright (C) 2018 Free Software Foundation, Inc.
[15:18] <lordcirth> AmarOk1412, what's the permissions on libc-2.28.so
[15:18] <leftyfb> deanman: isn't typing fg or pretty CTRL+<something> exactly the same amount of work? They're both typing 2 characters
[15:18] <deanman> gyles19, you got a point, i was thinking something like ctrl-(something) but yeah that's again two keystrokes
[15:18] <AmarOk1412> the libc is correct, a lot of other software is linked against it.
[15:19] <lordcirth> AmarOk1412, What are the permissions on libc-2.28.so?
[15:19] <anibic> Luckily , in my 18.10 in the file system right-click on the Media gave me an option to format.
[15:19] <AmarOk1412> 755
[15:20] <deanman> leftyfb, apparently yes, maybe subconsciously i was looking for an easier keyboard shortcut, now that I think of it <fg> is actually 3 keyboard presses
[15:20] <leftyfb> true
[15:21] <lordcirth> AmarOk1412, I suspect this is docker doing some apparmor trickery
[15:24] <anibic> !listchannels
[15:24] <AmarOk1412> yeah... let's try to unconfineed the container
[15:24] <jamie_1> tomreyn: so i have a question for you if your around, if not i can just ask in general
[15:24] <anibic> !channels
[15:24] <anibic> !list
[15:25] <lordcirth> !alis | anibic
[15:26] <AmarOk1412> still the same problem with apparmor=unconfined, seccomp=unconfined and a privileged flag
[15:26] <jamie_1> so im running on an asus tuf book fx504gm... i took some work to even get it to boot and properly run... but... it will only run in wayland, this does have hybrid graphics which im pretty sure has something to do with it,anyone have any suggestions to get xorg working?
[15:27] <AmarOk1412> in fact openat(AT_FDCWD, "/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libc.so.6", O_RDONLY|O_CLOEXEC) = 3 the file is correctly opened
[15:29] <lordcirth> AmarOk1412, might want to ask on #docker
[15:30] <AmarOk1412> hmm naah in fact it's really apparmor
[15:31] <anibic> lordcirth: Am I using the dd or disk management , cause Gpart is not installed in my 18.10
[15:31] <AmarOk1412> I didn't see that the support team changed the host from ubuntu 16.04 to ubuntu 18.10
[15:31] <AmarOk1412> I see a lot of DENIED into the dmesg output from apparmor
[15:31] <lordcirth> anibic, I thought you said you formatted it through the GUI?
[15:31] <AmarOk1412> lordcirth: thx
[15:32] <jhutchins> I'm looking for some links that would help explain to a non-technical person "What is Linux?".  Basic introduction for someone who doesn't deal with things on the OS level.
[15:33] <tgm4883> jhutchins: not really a support question, probably better for #ubuntu-discuss
[15:35] <JamesBenson> How is 'ubuntu core' different than 'ubuntu minimal'?  Core uses snap and minimal still uses apt?
[15:36] <anibic> lordcirth: Yes , it's still in progress. But what underlaying software I am using. Just curious about that...
[15:40] <lordcirth> anibic, oh. It would call mkfs.
[15:44] <Southern_Gentlem> jhutchins, wiki article
[15:51] <carrot_>  tIs it normal for linux-generic-hwe-18.04 installation to hang on the following line in terminal?: Setting up linux-headers-4.18.0-16-generic (4.18.0-16.17~18.04.1) ...
[15:56] <anibic> mkfs ? what does it mean ? an acronym ?
[15:58] <tomreyn> anibic: it's a command, and is short for "make filesystem"
[15:58] <tomreyn> carrot_: not forever, no
[15:59] <carrot_> how long does the installation take?
[15:59] <qwebirc79642> hello, i need a help with ufw , the default outgoing is deny....i have now running a kvm on that host, but i cannot access internet from it. i'm that good with iptables or ufw policy so i need help to make the kvm guest be able to access the internet
[15:59] <qwebirc79642> i'm not*
[16:01] <carrot_> tomreyn It seems stuck there for almost an hour.
[16:02] <gyles19> qwebirc79642: If you momentarily disable ufw, is your kvm guest able to reach the internet?
[16:02] <qwebirc79642> yes, if disable and reboot the host, the guest is able to go out
[16:04] <gyles19> qwebirc79642: You had to reboot? 'ufw disable' wasn't sufficient?
[16:04] <qwebirc79642> ufw is set so it can allow out only on specified ip
[16:05] <qwebirc79642> nope, only with ufw disable after reboot works
[16:05] <tomreyn> jamie_1: i'm not very good at nvidia support really (apparently nvidia themselves are neither), so i asked around and ended up with this: https://github.com/tomreyn/linuxsupport/blob/master/nvidia.md
[16:06] <tomreyn> carrot_: that's too long. cancel it, review: dmesg | tail && tail /var/log/apt/term.log
[16:07] <gyles19> qwebirc79642: Huh. That suggests to me that there are some underlying iptables rules interfering.  A reboot shouldn't have been required, as I understand that.  I suppose you need to add ufw rules to allow packets from the vm's interface to go outside.  How do you have the VM configured, is KVM doing NAT for it, or is it bridged and using its own ip on your internal network?
[16:07] <qwebirc79642> NAT
[16:10] <tomreyn> qwebirc79642: ufw is meant for simple desktop firewalling purposes. it is not meant to be used in more complex scenarios such as where the system it runs on does NAT, bridging or routing for other systems.
[16:10] <carrot_> tomreyn would you like to see the results in paste bin?
[16:10] <qwebirc79642> ufw is used as a killswitch
[16:10] <tomreyn> carrot_: if you hurry a little i can take a quick look, but need to leave for a while soon.
[16:11] <tomreyn> qwebirc79642: well if that's you intention then it seems to work.
[16:11] <gyles19> qwebirc79642: past my expertise, I bridge mine.
[16:11] <qwebirc79642> it works on the host, but also block the kvm guests
[16:12] <carrot_> tomreyn: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/CYJPp7kQ2Q/
[16:12] <tomreyn> use a different software for this purpose. or don't block output traffic.
[16:12] <tomreyn> either directly manage iptables rules or use a more complex iptables management software.
[16:12] <qwebirc79642> gyles19:  it has to go out on the same ip as host
[16:14] <qwebirc79642> i know is something from the policy but i just cant figure out what
[16:14] <tomreyn> carrot_: those perf interrupt messages may suggest that the system was unable to cope with the load the software running on it are causing. which hardware, kernel version, do you run there so far? what is the output of lsb_release -ds; cat /proc/{version,cmdline}
[16:15] <carrot_> tomreyn  uname -a Linux carrot-Inspiron-15-7000-Gaming 4.15.0-46-generic #49-Ubuntu SMP Wed Feb 6 09:33:07 UTC 2019 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[16:17] <tomreyn> carrot_: okay, that's not exactly what i asked for, do you run ubuntu at all?
[16:18] <carrot_> I'm sorry is this what your looking for: cat /proc/version
[16:18] <carrot_> Linux version 4.15.0-46-generic (buildd@lgw01-amd64-038) (gcc version 7.3.0 (Ubuntu 7.3.0-16ubuntu3)) #49-Ubuntu SMP Wed Feb 6 09:33:07 UTC 2019
[16:19] <carrot_> I'm running ubuntu 18.04 LTS
[16:20] <tomreyn> carrot_: okay, the partial info you provided looks fine. i suggest you look through or post, for someone to review, your entire output of: systemctl -b
[16:20]  * tomreyn afk
[16:23] <qwebirc79642> so no one has an answer for it? damn
[16:25] <qwebirc79642> Uncomplicated Firewall seems more complicated that its advertise, lol
[16:26] <sorinello> Hello. Anyone knows how well Ubuntu supports BTRFS ? I am aware that this is a Kernel question, not an OS one, but maybe someone knows. I found some articles f rom 2015-2016 NOT recommending BTRFS yet
[16:29] <rander2> hello
[16:29] <lotuspsychje> welcome rander2
[16:30] <rander2> how to test hdd with ubuntu ? I know smartctl -x /dev/sda , but the output is very long
[16:31] <Curiosi7y> hi
[16:32] <rander2> 5 Reallocated_Sector_Ct   PO--CK   100   100   010    -    15
[16:34] <rander2> it's possible paste to paste.ubuntu.com directly from bash shell ?
[16:35] <McBrian> .
[16:35] <leftyfb> !pastebinit | rander2
[16:39] <McBrian> .
[16:49] <tgm4883> qwebirc79642: to be fair, you're doing something more complicated than it was intended for. But it would seem that you should be able to add the ip tables rules a precursor to UFW
[16:51] <tgm4883> qwebirc79642: minimally, we'd need to see your FW rules
[16:51] <qwebirc79642> tgm4883: all i need is to unblock the outgoing traffic from natip
[16:56] <tgm4883> qwebirc79642: how did you deny all but your IP
[17:04] <McBrian> .
[17:06] <lordcirth> McBrian, why do you keep sending a '.' to the channel?
[17:06] <jeremy31> Practicing Morse code
[17:09] <Southern_Gentlem> so he keeps sending e wouldnt .. be better
[17:10] <OerHeks> .... . .-.. .--. ....... ..- .--. -.. .- - .
[17:14] <jamie_2> tomreyn: so i got it working on xorg with intel integrated graphics on noauvu
[17:15] <jamie_2> or however thats spelled
[17:15] <jamie_2> which im fine with
[17:15] <jamie_2> if i want to use nvidia for gaming or something i can boot into my windows install
[17:23] <grigak> privet
[17:29] <PottyTheShitter> if i install ubuntu on my flash drive will it run virtually on any pc?
[17:29] <PottyTheShitter> that can boot from usb
[17:30] <OerHeks> 32 bit yes
[17:33] <RonaldsMazitis> Is there any way to make Ubuntu kill programms more frequently if there is not enough RAM?
[17:34] <RonaldsMazitis> the pc is old and it really thinks too much before kills anything
[17:34] <OerHeks> RonaldsMazitis, automaticly? never heard of such option
[17:34] <RonaldsMazitis> well I need that
[17:35] <OerHeks> don't open too much programs/tabs on your browser then?
[17:35] <lordcirth> RonaldsMazitis, do you not have swap?
[17:35] <RonaldsMazitis> yes
[17:35] <lordcirth> Why not? Also you could try zram
[17:36] <OerHeks> zram ... that takes active memory too
[17:36] <OerHeks> .. a little compressed, but still
[17:37] <pragmaticenigma> RonaldsMazitis: How much RAM is your system configured with? What desktop environment are you presently using?
[17:38] <RonaldsMazitis> 1gb
[17:38] <RonaldsMazitis> openbox
[17:39] <lordcirth> RonaldsMazitis, and why don't you have swap?
[17:39] <RonaldsMazitis> I have swap
[17:39] <lordcirth> Often browsers use the most RAM on a light system like Openbox, so you could try a lighter one?
[17:39] <lordcirth> RonaldsMazitis, how much? Does it run out too?
[17:40] <RonaldsMazitis> .......
[17:40] <RonaldsMazitis> I just want firefox to be killed
[17:40] <RonaldsMazitis> in some point
[17:40] <pragmaticenigma> RonaldsMazitis: 1GB is not enough for any recent linux distributions... what CPU do you have in that right?
[17:41] <lordcirth> RonaldsMazitis, ah, perhaps you could use 'timeout' which apparently also supports RAM limits
[17:41] <OerHeks> just do not open too many tabs, simple
[17:41] <pragmaticenigma> OerHeks: 1GB of Ram though... >_<
[17:42] <lordcirth> RonaldsMazitis, 'timeout -m 512000 firefox'
[17:42] <lordcirth> although as their own docs say, cgroups is probably better
[17:43] <Triffid_Hunter> RonaldsMazitis: the only sensible way to reduce swap thrashing is to have less swap.. bit of a tall order with 1G ram though
[17:43] <Triffid_Hunter> RonaldsMazitis: what sort of potato is this though? my 5 year old phone has more ram than that :P
[17:43] <RonaldsMazitis> pentium 4
[17:43] <RonaldsMazitis> oops
[17:43] <RonaldsMazitis> r
[17:43] <RonaldsMazitis> pentium R
[17:44] <RonaldsMazitis> of course phone has more RAM
[17:45] <Triffid_Hunter> I think the last time I had a system with 1G of ram was in the early 2000s
[17:45] <tgm4883> Triffid_Hunter: that's not really support
[17:45] <Triffid_Hunter> tgm4883: ok sorry, I'll shush unless I have something constructive
[17:46] <RonaldsMazitis> lordcirth: no -m for that
[17:46] <pragmaticenigma> RonaldsMazitis: That's quite a rig, sadly it sounds like your sitting at the outer limits of what your rig can do with modern software. Seeing that you already run OpenBox as your WM, I'm guessing you have already gone through system services to turn off non-essential items?
[17:47] <tgm4883> RonaldsMazitis: I've no experience with this, so use it at your own risk, but this guy seems to have created something to handle killing off stuff as your physical ram fills up  https://github.com/rfjakob/earlyoom
[17:47] <RonaldsMazitis> I've done something
[17:47] <tgm4883> RonaldsMazitis: and as such, it comes with the default texas warranty, which means if it breaks you get to keep both pieces
[17:48] <tgm4883> There is some tuning that you could do, but a few posts suggest that it's still waits to long before OOM killer steps in
[17:51] <lordcirth> RonaldsMazitis, have you considered using a lighter browser, like maybe Midori?
[17:53] <ryuo> RonaldsMazitis: why are you still using a pentium4? those things guzzle energy like nobody's business. you could buy something newer with better performance and less energy draw. the difference would pay for itself eventually.
[17:53] <RonaldsMazitis> that app is not for 16.04
[17:53] <RonaldsMazitis> it's actually not my pc
[17:53] <ryuo> i see.
[17:53] <RonaldsMazitis> the user is possed with spirits from 60's
[17:55] <ioria> !info midori xenial
[17:55] <RonaldsMazitis> I am using chromium
[17:55] <RonaldsMazitis> for google street view
[17:55] <RonaldsMazitis> capability
[17:56] <RonaldsMazitis> and firefox is for everything else
[17:56] <ryuo> RonaldsMazitis: all i can suggest is more RAM, if the system can handle it.
[17:56] <legreffier> you can actually tune the way oom_killer will behave...
[17:56] <ryuo> it appears pentium 4 can support up to 4G
[17:56] <RonaldsMazitis> no no it's pentium R
[17:56] <ioria> what is pentium R ?
[17:57] <RonaldsMazitis> I don't know
[17:57] <RonaldsMazitis> ;p;
[17:57] <ioria> there 's no pentium R
[17:57] <RonaldsMazitis> that's what benchmark tool showed
[17:57] <ioria> (R) mean Registere Trade Mark
[17:57] <ryuo> could always ask for /proc/cpuinfo
[17:57] <ioria> Registered Trade Mark
[17:57] <tgm4883> RonaldsMazitis: what's the output of 'lscpu | nc termbin.com 9999'
[17:58] <RonaldsMazitis> ah sorry
[17:58] <Triffid_Hunter> wait, is it an original pentium, as in pre- pentium pro?
[17:58] <RonaldsMazitis> pentium D
[17:58] <leftyfb> TIL: lscpu
[17:58] <ioria> ok
[17:58] <RonaldsMazitis> :DD
[17:58] <Triffid_Hunter> oh, D is a type of -4 right?
[17:58] <ioria> yep
[17:58] <lordcirth> 2005-2006
[17:58] <RonaldsMazitis> original pentium would die with nowadays firefox
[17:59] <ioria> firefox could be handled , but it's a pain
[17:59] <lordcirth> RonaldsMazitis, seriously, tell them to get a real computer. until then, install midori.
[17:59] <ryuo> RonaldsMazitis: seriously, upgrade it or get more RAM if you must keep that old sucker around.
[17:59] <RonaldsMazitis> really I can't make programms close themself
[18:00] <tgm4883> Can we please stay on the topic of support and not CPU shaming people
[18:00] <lordcirth> Not shaming, that's just really the best option here. But yes.
[18:00] <lordcirth> RonaldsMazitis, you could probably tune oomkiller, or use that script above, but try just using Midori first.
[18:01] <ryuo> tgm4883: fair enough. it's just usually easier to suggest desktop linux have at least 2G for a decent experience.
[18:02] <lordcirth> RonaldsMazitis, this was the timeout script I found that has the -m option, apparently not the coreutils timeout: https://github.com/pshved/timeout
[18:02] <lordcirth> But cgroups is better
[18:02] <lotuspsychje> ryuo: lubuntu can handle 2gig
[18:03] <Edisto> trying to do a "apt --fix-broken install" but am getting error "rmdir: failed to remove 'opt/rocm/lib': No such file or directory". How do I install if the directory is missing, so I can reinstall?
[18:03] <Edisto> uninstall if the directory is missing**
[18:03] <tgm4883> Edisto: well, you could just make the directory and see if that works
[18:04] <tgm4883> Edisto: if that doesn't work, you might try asking whoever made the package you're trying to install
[18:04] <lordcirth> RonaldsMazitis, cgexec might work for you: https://access.redhat.com/documentation/en-us/red_hat_enterprise_linux/6/html/resource_management_guide/starting_a_process
[18:05] <pragmaticenigma> Edisto: just manually create the directory... you'll probably have to jump through a few more hoops like that
[18:05] <Edisto> ok thanks i'll try that =D
[18:05] <lordcirth> If you declare a cgroup with a memory limit, then edit the .desktop file for firefox, you should be able to kill firefox at memory cap
[18:06] <pragmaticenigma> Edisto: I also share tgm4883's sentiment, probably should reach out to the project that is responsible for that software.
[18:07] <qwebirc79642> i will give up to ufw after all, it seems it sucks
[18:07] <Edisto> it worked. Thanks much =D
[18:08] <OerHeks> qwebirc number, did you reask in #docker too?
[18:12] <nevodka> I have a passphrase associated with an SSH key and want it to be required to be entered on every use
[18:12] <nevodka> something is auto filling it though
[18:12] <nevodka> only requires on restart
[18:13] <tomreyn> then don't ydd the key to your ssh agent, or dont run an agent
[18:13] <nevodka> it seems to do that out of the box
[18:13] <nevodka> on 16 LTS with unity
[18:13] <tomreyn> that's possible
[18:13] <tomreyn> !yy.mm | nevodka
[18:14] <tomreyn> i understand that you mean 16.04 LTS, but it seems relevant enough to point it out.
[18:15] <nevodka> thanks. I'm new to ubuntu
[18:16] <tomreyn> the software you're investigating is "ssh-agent", managed using the "ssh-add" command.
[18:16] <nevodka> right, I've found it
[18:17] <nevodka> I run arch at home I've just been coerced into running 16.04 LTS for work :p
[18:18] <tomreyn> sounds like a good mix to me.
[18:18] <RonaldsMazitis> https://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/136291/will-linux-start-killing-my-processes-without-asking-me-if-memory-gets-short
[18:18] <RonaldsMazitis> I set it to 2
[18:19] <tomreyn> RonaldsMazitis: ok, but why are oyu telling us?
[18:20] <legreffier> RonaldsMazitis: it seems like the behavior you're looking for.
[18:20] <RonaldsMazitis> when I restarted pc it's back to 0
[18:21] <RonaldsMazitis> so I don't know if processes kill when out of memory
[18:21] <tomreyn> is there a question hidden in there?
[18:21] <legreffier> RonaldsMazitis: you need to set the value in /etc/sysctl.conf
[18:22] <legreffier> RonaldsMazitis: you won't know either with =2.
[18:22] <legreffier> despite it's a bit counter-intuitive, the oom_kill default behavior is much safer than the path you're following.
[18:25] <RonaldsMazitis> sysctl vm.overcommit_memory=2 ?
[18:31] <leftyfb> sounds like a lot of work to get ancient hardware working. There's usually people online giving away or selling for real cheap more modern hardware
[18:32] <OerHeks> i work in e-waste, we trow away pentium i3 ..
[18:33] <leftyfb> ugh
[18:33] <RonaldsMazitis> cool for Yall
[18:33] <leftyfb> that makes me VERY sad
[18:33] <OerHeks> leftyfb, nobody wants to buy them :-(
[18:33] <leftyfb> give them away?
[18:33] <OerHeks> * unless it is a laptop
[18:38] <ioria> you can refine gold (real gold) from old hw
[18:38] <leftyfb> only P2's and older ... the rest don't have enough gold for it to be worth it
[18:38] <OerHeks> ioria, sure, it takes €6 to retrieve €7,50 of gold
[18:38] <ioria> wow
[18:39] <OerHeks> * but other metals are high valuable too
[18:39] <OerHeks> ioria, please join us in #ubuntu-discuss :-)
[18:40] <ioria> sure
[18:42] <RonaldsMazitis> I changed /etc/sysctl.conf added sysctl vm.overcommit_memory=2  restarted and /proc/sys/vm/overcommit_memory stayed 0 after restart
[18:44] <puven_la1ola> hello
[18:45] <anibic> !channels
[18:45] <puven_la1ola> how do i fix broken dependencies on my Ubuntu 18.04? i am unable to install surf-browser
[18:46] <lotuspsychje> !msgthebot > anibic
[18:46] <puven_la1ola> i tried "sudo apt install -f" and didn't work
[18:47] <lotuspsychje> !info surf | puven_la1ola
[18:47] <lotuspsychje> puven_la1ola: install it from the repos^
[18:48] <ioria> puven_la1ola, we need the exact error you got on paste.ubntu.com
[18:48] <puven_la1ola> ok hold on
[18:48] <blackflow> RonaldsMazitis: what did you add exactly to sysctl.conf? Pastebin please
[18:51] <puven_la1ola> https://pastebin.com/VXnaBcAb
[18:54] <ioria> puven_la1ola, apt-cache policy surf libwebkit2gtk-4.0-37 | nc termbin.com 9999
[18:54] <puven_la1ola> exit
[18:59] <RonaldsMazitis> blackflow: sysctl vm.overcommit_memory=2
[19:06] <blackflow> RonaldsMazitis: that's wrong. sysctl.conf should only contain the values. so  only    vm.overcommit_memory = 2         on its own line
[19:31] <nevodka> I'm having issues keeping ssh-agent at bay on 16.04 LTS w/ Unity
[19:31] <nevodka> I don't want ssh-agent
[19:31] <nevodka> It persists my SSH key passphrase in memory and reuses it when I don't want it to
[19:32] <nevodka> Yet ssh-agent is nowhere to be found in ps, ssh-agent -k gives 'SSH_AGENT_PID not set, cannot kill agent', and despite all this when I attempt to use that SSH key Unity brings up a prompt regardless to enter the password (post agent restart) or just reuses the password.
[19:32] <lordcirth> nevodka, is this when using ssh on the command line?
[19:33] <nevodka> Yes
[19:33] <lordcirth> And it produces a GUI prompt?
[19:33] <nevodka> Yes
[19:33] <nevodka> If I start ssh-agent and then kill it, the problem disappears
[19:33] <lordcirth> Well that's odd, never had that happen
[19:33] <nevodka> But just resurfaces in a new terminal
[19:33] <nevodka> I *could* start and kill ssh-agent in my bashrc, but it seems like a filthy hack.
[19:34] <nevodka> There is no systemd unit for ssh-agent.
[19:34] <lordcirth> nevodka, you need to edit the config for gnome-keyring, or just disable it
[19:34] <nevodka> I completely uninstalled gnome-keyring already
[19:34] <nevodka> Still it prompts me
[19:34] <nevodka> (with the GUI)
[19:34] <lordcirth> Hmm
[19:35] <lordcirth> nevodka, 'echo $SSH_AUTH_SOCK' - is it set?
[19:35] <nevodka> Hmm yes, at /run/user/1000/keyring/ssh
[19:36] <lordcirth> nevodka, try unsetting it. If that works, unset it in .profile
[19:37] <nevodka> Hey that worked
[19:37] <nevodka> lordcirth you the real MVP
[19:37] <lordcirth> np, just googled it :P
[19:37] <nevodka> my google-fu is lacking clearly
[19:38] <qwebirc23423> Hello! New to Ubuntu and still getting a hang of user permissions... I'd like to allow HexChat to download (DCC) to my Downloads folder (under Home). Right now it doesnt have the permission/ I didnt find anything in the config file (tried to change the user it started as?). Any idea? thanks :)
[19:38] <lordcirth> qwebirc23423, what error do you get when it tries to download to ~/Downloads ?
[19:38] <pos> r
[19:39] <qwebirc23423> lordcirth: a simple "permission denied"
[19:39] <lordcirth> qwebirc23423, how did you install Hexchat?
[19:39] <qwebirc23423> Actually the permission is denied even in read mode. HexChat can't display the contents of the folder even.
[19:40] <qwebirc23423> Through Snap aka the Software manager
[19:40] <lordcirth> Yeah, Snap imposes AppArmor restrictions
[19:40] <qwebirc23423> Oh yeah damn that makes sense that's the entire point
[19:41] <qwebirc23423> Well that was quick :) thanks a bunch lordcirth! I'll figure the rest out!
[19:41] <lordcirth> qwebirc23423, you can either figure out how to add an exception, or just reinstall with apt
[19:42] <fub> Can someone identify which desktop environment/window manager is running here? Is it gnome? https://vimeo.com/319952139
[19:42] <qwebirc23423> I was about to reinstall through apt but actually I'm curious about adding a single exception, could you point me in the direction of some guide on this?
[19:42] <lordcirth> fub, the DE isn't really visible, but that does look like a GTK window.
[19:43] <OerHeks>  hexchat: open port 4990 to 5000 forwarded to the machines doing the DCC, if you have UFW enabled
[19:44] <lordcirth> qwebirc23423, I'm not sure how to modify the snap package to change it's apparmor profile. It might be rather involved.
[19:44] <lordcirth> You could also snap install --classic, but that's kinda pointless
[19:44] <qwebirc23423> OerHeks: sorry that flew over my head. What's UFW? This is all happening on one machine btw ie. my laptop, I have no home server (yet?)
[19:44] <fub> lordcirth: and gtk means its gnome? or what other popular choices are there?
[19:45] <OerHeks> ufw is your firewall
[19:45] <qwebirc23423> lordcirth: Thanks. I'm assuming --classic installs without the restrictions? Would it still allow me to get easy updates through Software manager? If so that might be the most practical.
[19:46] <lordcirth> fub, Gnome uses GTK, KDE uses QT, other desktops vary. Since Gnome is very popular, it's likely Gnome.
[19:46] <fub> lordcirth: what does xfce use?
[19:46] <lordcirth> qwebirc23423, yes, classic doesn't use AppArmor. snaps auto update, apt packages use whatever your autoupdate setting is.
[19:46] <lordcirth> fub, GTK
[19:47] <qwebirc23423> OerHeks: Yeah my setup right now is just a laptop and internet through a shared modem in a shared flat. But I see the point, that would have been a good fix.
[19:47] <fub> lordcirth: okay, so xfce also still in the game :>
[19:48] <qwebirc23423> lordcirth: Thanks a bunch then that's perfect, I'll install as --classic. Thanks again for the fast solution, you're a rockstar!
[19:48] <lordcirth> no problem
[20:13] <ppf> so! back at my desk, back to my problem :)
[20:13] <ppf> i have no access to a microphone in neither chrome nor FF
[20:13] <ppf> ubuntu cosmic
[20:14] <ppf> it's not a permission issue within the browser. the browsers don't show up as 'Recording' applications in pavucontrol
[20:14] <ppf> any suggestion how to debug?
[20:15] <lordcirth> ppf, can you get another program to listen to the mic properly?
[20:19] <ioria> ppf, https://www.onlinemictest.com/
[20:22] <Plumette> motus
[20:24] <ppf> lordcirth: yes, works perfectly fine in mumble and games
[20:24] <ppf> ioria: that's inside the browser though
[20:24] <ppf> are there any other configuration gadgets besides pavucontrol?
[20:25] <ppf> cause i feel like i'm out of configuration options, there's no failures, warnings, or info
[20:25] <ppf> it just doesn't work
[20:25] <lordcirth> ppf, you could set pulseaudio to log verbosely
[20:26] <jamie_1> tomreyn: so ive been digging through some issues, and i did find that if i use the noavu (not sure how to spell that) drivers it works fine on xserv, now on flip side ive installed a few different kernals but none of them are showing up on the grub menu
[20:27] <ppf> lordcirth: indeed, just a sec
[20:28] <jamie_1> im currently running on 18.10 and when i try to move to a more recent kernal because my laptop has models that dont work (like trackpad) im trying to move the 4.19 or higher and for some reason when i add them they are not showing up in the grub boot menu even when i do full add and grub update and then a reboot, any ideas?
[20:28] <lordcirth> jamie_1, how did you install the kernels?
[20:29] <ppf> wtf, the mic started working as soon as i enabled the logging
[20:29] <ppf> what the heck
[20:29] <lordcirth> ppf, lol, perhaps it was just the pulseaudio restart
[20:29] <jamie_1> lordcirth: both from getting the packages from the mainline repo and dpkg -i on them then running sudo update-grub and through using ukuu
[20:29] <ppf> i've restarted my entire computer like 20 times
[20:29] <lordcirth> ppf, could be restarting pulse after the browser starts, or something
[20:30] <lordcirth> ppf, try rebooting with verbose still on
[20:30] <jamie_1> i dont think it should make an impact if i have secure boot off, from what i know it causes less issues when its off
[20:31] <ppf> lordcirth: i will do that later
[20:31] <ppf> actually, i did more than just enable logging, i also killall'd pulse
[20:31] <ppf> maybe there were multiple conflicting instances or something
[20:32] <jamie_1> im gonna try ukuu from gui and hopefully that will do the trick.... i usually try to avoid ui based tools for this kinda stuff
[20:33] <ppf> lordcirth: wtf! now there's no output anymore
[20:33] <ppf> and pavucontrol can't connect to pulse
[20:34] <jamie_1> whelp im gonna reboot now and see if any of them show up now
[20:49] <hodor12345> Hello world
[20:49] <lordcirth> hodor12345, hi
[20:52] <hodor12345> Can anyone suggest me good irc client for android device?
[20:52] <leftyfb> !ot | hodor12345
[20:52] <OerHeks> hodor12345, ask in the android channels?
[20:53] <hodor12345> Sorry, okay I am moving to android channels.
[20:53] <hodor12345> Thanks btw.
[20:54] <OerHeks> have fun!
[20:54] <lolTest> I played around with disco dingo netboot build of the days. After successfull installation of the basic system (no DE), I tried to "apt update" the system but could not connect to the repos. Is this normal behavious for daily builds of versions not released yet?
[20:55] <OerHeks> lolTest, support for 19.04 in #ubuntu+1 until release
[20:55] <leftyfb> !ubuntu+1 | lolTest
[20:55] <lolTest> gotcha!
[21:21] <h3l> Hmm, firefox suggesting upgrade to version 66, running 18.10
[21:21] <h3l> is it stupid to compile and install from source ?
[21:24] <OerHeks> h3l, not stupid, make sure you remove firefox before this. and ff 66 is in your repos
[21:25] <OerHeks> ... soon
[21:25] <h3l> meh
[21:27] <OerHeks> y
[21:28] <Bashing-om> info firefox cosmic
[21:28] <Bashing-om> !info firefox cosmic
[21:28] <h3l> Bashing-om: yeah
[21:29] <OerHeks> it is released today, 19th
[21:29] <h3l> :P
[21:29] <OerHeks> so today/tomorrow it should be available
[21:29] <Bashing-om> h3l: I expect FF66 wil be in the repo soon, There is: https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=Firefox-66-Released .
[21:29] <h3l> great news !
[21:29] <h3l> ty
[21:30] <h3l> now back to irssi, freenode and ssl ...
[21:30] <h3l> ;)
[21:40] <studio-user761> Hardware volume keys no worky GUYS !!   enable hardware volume control toggle checked in pavucontrol tray properties , restarted pavucontrol service .  brightness and all other hardware keys function just not volume
[21:40] <studio-user761> helpy make the keys worky pleeeeaaaassss?
[21:40] <studio-user761> they did work just not now for reasons
[21:41] <Bashing-om> !sound | studio-user761
[21:41] <studio-user761> sound works fine . Just the keyboard hardware volume control stopped working
[21:41] <studio-user761> toggle checked in pavu too
[21:42] <studio-user761> volume+/- and mute buttons no worky
[21:45] <studio-user761> yeaaa....  its a tough road I travel with no volume control hardware keys :/
[21:45] <studio-user761> :sorry:
[21:48] <studio-user761> k
[21:50] <h3l> There, ssl
[21:51] <h3l> so, besides irssi what other console clients are good?
[21:51] <studio-user761> ?
[21:51] <h3l> for irc
[21:52] <h3l> ?
[21:52] <baraba> weechat?
[21:52] <studio-user761> will study your query and get back to you
[21:52] <h3l> uhm ok
[21:52] <h3l> just chit chat, nothing important
[21:53] <studio-user761> indeed friend
[21:56] <studio-user761> hmmmm
[21:58] <studio-user761> you request from me?
[21:58] <studio-user761>  im on irc
[21:58] <h3l> yeah, what client u use ?
[21:59] <h3l> ok
[21:59] <studio-user761> i dunno .... what that means
[21:59] <h3l> u connect via web probablt
[22:00] <studio-user761> yezzir chromium linked from ubuntu studio appmenu link
[22:00] <h3l> nods
[22:00] <studio-user761> not proprietary client like pigin or anything
[22:01] <h3l> yeah, i use a dedicated irc client though
[22:01] <studio-user761> I was just looking for help to get my hardware volume keys working again to no avail
[22:01] <h3l> hehe
[22:01] <OerHeks> studio-user761,  for a solution, we need more info than that, ubuntu version etc
[22:01] <OerHeks> one would give such info unasked..
[22:02] <studio-user761> 18.10 ubuntu studio xfce , pavucontrol enable hardware checked . all other keys function . sound funtion all input and output function . simple sudden loss of volume key control
[22:03] <Term1nal> having an issue trying to install steam on 18.04, I keep getting stuck on these packages: https://ghostbin.com/paste/tmhqw
[22:03] <Term1nal> I've tried everything I can google but nothing is working
[22:04] <OerHeks> studio-user761, and hardware?
[22:04] <OerHeks> Term1nal, update properly before installing stuff, apt update && apt dist-upgrade
[22:04] <Term1nal> I've done that
[22:04] <studio-user761> terminal sudo apt-get upgrade  perhaps will upgrade packages needed to finish install
[22:04] <Term1nal> it does not.
[22:05] <Term1nal> 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
[22:05] <studio-user761> which distro ?
[22:05] <studio-user761> studio ?
[22:05] <Term1nal> plain old 18.04
[22:05] <OerHeks> did you add achtecture i386?
[22:06] <Term1nal> yes
[22:06] <OerHeks> multiverse enabled?
[22:06] <studio-user761> multimedia codecs installed ?  restricted extras ect ?
[22:06] <Term1nal> multiverse enabled, and as far as I know about the restricted extras/codecs yes
[22:07] <yaaic|demo> Gabile
[22:07] <OerHeks> if so, install : gdebi-core libgl1-mesa-dri:i386 libgl1-mesa-glx:i386 # and try again, https://linuxconfig.org/how-to-install-steam-on-ubuntu-18-04-bionic-beaver-linux
[22:07] <studio-user761> that message you posted sounds like packages arent updated or missing .
[22:08] <Term1nal> @OerHeks https://ghostbin.com/paste/tmhqw
[22:09] <studio-user761> what would cause volume hardware keys to stop working from a functioning state ?
[22:14] <studio-user761> could upgrading packages have caused obsolete dependencies to be removed responsible for volume hardware key function ?
[22:16] <OerHeks> Term1nal, sudo apt-get install --install-recommends steam # should work fine, what linux version is this?
[22:16] <Term1nal> ubuntu 18.04
[22:17] <ubunt> 555
[22:18] <kitija> Hi
[22:18] <texla> Upgraded 16.04 to 18.04.2 using software updater wmctrl now xfce how to change to gnome shell
[22:18] <kitija> Where am I?
[22:19] <Bashing-om> texla: At the password screen, what desktops are offered from the gear icon drop down ?
[22:20] <Term1nal> OerHeks: this is a weird message
[22:20] <Bashing-om> kitija: This is ubuntu support channel :)
[22:20] <Term1nal> libglx-mesa0 : Depends: libglapi-mesa (= 18.2.2-0ubuntu1~18.04.2) but 1:18.0.1-0~a~padoka0 is to be installed
[22:21] <studio-user761> install the package then
[22:22] <studio-user761> sudo apt-get install libglapi-mesa  ??? no ?
[22:22] <Term1nal> that's where it falls over
[22:22] <texla> Bashing-om, none showing unable to change to another ne
[22:22] <Term1nal> libglapi-mesa is already the newest version (1:18.0.1-0~a~padoka0)
[22:23] <studio-user761> hmm
[22:23] <OerHeks> Term1nal, oh, padoka ppa installed?
[22:23] <Term1nal> I ran ppa-purge on padoka PPA
[22:23] <OerHeks> there you go, that bites
[22:23] <OerHeks> after reversal, reboot..
[22:23] <studio-user761> so you have broken packages ?
[22:23] <Term1nal> how do I remove "1:18.0.1-0~a~padoka0" package?
[22:24] <Term1nal> Ubuntu doesn't seem to think I have broken packages, I think it's this padoka library that's causing issues, it's expecting some other version
[22:24] <OerHeks> Term1nal, if you performed ppa-purge, reboot, then the obsolete packages can be removed
[22:24] <studio-user761> if you purged it cant you simply reinstall the latest ppa?
[22:25] <OerHeks> "latest ppa?
[22:25] <Term1nal> I think it doesn't want the ppa version
[22:25] <studio-user761> correct rather
[22:25] <Term1nal> how do I remove this package manually?
[22:25] <OerHeks> Term1nal, told you
[22:25] <Term1nal> I did that already
[22:25] <Term1nal> It's still showing
[22:25] <Bashing-om> texla: what shows ' dpkg -l ubuntu-desktop ' ? then ' apt show ubuntu-desktop ' . Sure you want to proceed ?
[22:25] <OerHeks> apt autoremove/clean
[22:26] <Term1nal> it doesn't work
[22:26] <the2048> Term1nal, if it can't be solved normally and un-normally, I'd say wipe the system after backing up the contents of your home folder
[22:26] <Term1nal> all I need to do is remove that one package
[22:26] <studio-user761> sudo apt-get remove libglapi-mesa
[22:26] <OerHeks> well, i guess you did not reboot, you are still here
[22:26] <Afshaal> Anyone happen to know any good hardware troubleshooting channels on Freenode?
[22:27] <OerHeks> ##hardware is the place to be
[22:27] <Term1nal> trying to remove that package wants libglx0 removed
[22:27] <Term1nal> if I try to remove libglx0, it wants to remove 7GB worth of my entire OS
[22:27]  * Afshaal slaps head
[22:27] <Afshaal> thanks :3
[22:27] <studio-user761> oof
[22:27] <Term1nal> so how do I surgically remove taht single package and reinstall?
[22:28] <studio-user761> I dunno man once you start purging stuff all kinda funnies can happen .  I recently sudo apt-get autoremove --purge and borked my whole OS lol
[22:29] <studio-user761> had all kinds of broken packages . found the log list for them . removed one by one still broke
[22:39] <studio-user761> ubuntu studio 18.10 new install , intel hda 8th gen i5 8gb + 16gb intel optane   volume hardware keys stopped working after functioning well . No changes except upgrading some packages causing system errors as they were expecting newer versions .
[22:39] <studio-user761> enable hardware volume control toggle checked on pavucontrol
[22:40] <studio-user761> reset services related to volume control hard keys
[22:40] <studio-user761> no change volume up down and mute non functional
[22:43] <acebrianjuan> Hi
[22:44] <studio-user761> hi there
[22:45] <acebrianjuan> is it possible to make my ubuntu laptop to behave like a wifi access point in order to provide internet connection to my cellphone?
[22:45] <xamithan> yes
[22:45] <acebrianjuan> my laptop is connected to the internet via ethernet cable
[22:46] <acebrianjuan> xamithan: do you know where shoud I start looking?
[22:46] <Term1nal> welp, fixed it. Re-adding and re-installing padoka PPA seemed to sort out the problem.
[22:46] <Term1nal> it must've gotten removed during the upgrade from 17.10 to 18.04
[22:46] <xamithan> you on gnome DE?   If so: https://vitux.com/make-your-ubuntu-pc-a-wireless-access-point/
[22:47] <Hydr0p0nX> Hi  - can anyone tell me if all of this -> https://help.ubuntu.com/lts/serverguide/kerberos.html.en <- is really necessary to just generate a kerberos token that will be imported to my nas as a one time thing?
[22:47] <acebrianjuan> xamithan: 18.04 LTE
[22:47] <acebrianjuan> *LTS
[22:47] <studio-user761> I thought so . purging the ppa should only need to re install
[22:47] <Term1nal> yeah, purging didn't seem to work, perhaps because it wasn't fully installed to begin with
[22:48] <Term1nal> had to boot into recovery root console to do it
[22:48] <Term1nal> since rebooting my graphics was failing after force-removing the package
[22:48] <studio-user761> this was an upgrade failure ?  oh yea lot of times ppa are for specific versions and wont upgrade automatically . simply uncheck the old ones and refresh the source list then re install and it will give you the correct version
[22:49] <Term1nal> so the desktop environment failed to load, and kept looping black screen back to shit-stemd launch
[22:49] <Term1nal> that really needs to be fixed
[22:49] <acebrianjuan> xamithan: maan! that was dead simple :) thank you very much!
[22:49] <Term1nal> if the graphical environment fails to load, don't keep re-attempting to load it
[22:49] <Term1nal> it overrides even attempting to use secondary TTYs
[22:50] <studio-user761> hmmm
[22:50] <xamithan> Heh,  it's not so simple on ubuntu server,  but glad it works
[22:50] <Term1nal> you can switch to them but it switches back to the TTY trying to launch the graphical desktop
[22:50] <Term1nal> so it's impossible to do anything without rebooting to recovery console, enabling networking, forcing dhclient on the network adapter so it actually gets an address
[22:51] <Term1nal> then doing the necessary commandline package managing
[22:51] <studio-user761> so is it working now or did you launch client from terminal
[22:51] <Term1nal> seesm to be working now
[22:51] <Term1nal> it's still installing prerequisites for steam package
[22:51] <studio-user761> dependencies ?
[22:51] <Krenair> has anyone reported having bizarre issues with shift+number combinations producing special characters like !"£$%^&*() on bionic lately?
[22:51] <Term1nal> bunch of mesa crap
[22:52] <studio-user761> hmm
[22:52] <studio-user761> what are you after on steam ?
[22:52] <Term1nal> but it's working fine now
[22:52] <Krenair> recently these have been often outputting nothing for me unless I press some random numbers first
[22:52] <Term1nal> mostly a bunch of i386 equivalents for mesa packages
[22:52] <Term1nal> that seemed to be missing
[22:53] <studio-user761> noooo why are you installing steam ? fortnight or some such ?
[22:54] <Term1nal> a few games I play on this machine at my IT job
[22:54] <studio-user761> I was here just trying to get my volume hardware keys to work again .
[22:55] <studio-user761> I was going over everything I did that may have effected due to this being a new install of the OS and they were working . Im thinking the packages I upgraded causing obsolete errors might have borked something
[22:55] <Term1nal> I have like 90 games that run natively on Linux in my steam library XD
[22:55] <studio-user761> nice . I just play my 1094 NES and n64 roms on my laptop :D
[22:56] <studio-user761> im old school like fat crayons
[22:56] <Term1nal> hah
[22:56] <Platonides> Krenair: shift+number producing that looks expected...
[22:56] <Krenair> yes
[22:56] <Krenair> that's what I do expect
[22:56] <Krenair> the problem is sometimes those combinations are doing nothing
[22:57] <Platonides> you missed that from your report :)
[22:57] <Term1nal> all I know is I launched steam and it said it had to install some missing packages, so I told it to go for it, and then it came back with that error. So it sent me on the goose chase to figure out wtf was wrong cause it was working last week
[22:57] <Krenair> I split it over two lines and other people were talking, so
[22:58] <Platonides> oh, sorry
[22:58] <Platonides> my fault
[22:58] <Term1nal> I also have Ableton Live 10 installed on this Ubuntu box, running via playonlinux/wine
[22:59] <Krenair> np
[22:59] <Platonides> I don't really understand how pressing random numbers first can fix it
[22:59] <Krenair> yeah me neither
[22:59] <Krenair> the first time it happened I was just like
[22:59] <Krenair> "Wait what, why are my keys not working"
[22:59] <Krenair> so naturally, keyboard mash time
[22:59] <studio-user761> yea always uncheck old ppas for prev distros , refresh and re install .  Probably smart to make a list of important ppa s
[23:00] <Platonides> did you check with xev that you receive all expected  keypress events ?
[23:01] <Platonides> hmm, funny
[23:01] <Platonides> it receives keysym 0x34 (4) vs keysym 0x24 (dollar)
[23:02] <Platonides> I might also have a look at the xmodmap
[23:02] <Platonides> maybe the keyboard is sometimes not detecting the presses?
[23:02] <Krenair> Platonides, thanks, I will check that next time it occurs
[23:02] <Krenair> I doubt it's a hardware problem as the issue appears to be in the combinations
[23:02] <Krenair> when this happens, the numbers themselves are fine
[23:02] <Krenair> but you hold shift and nothing comes out
[23:03] <Platonides> a hearing-impaired keyboard looks more likely than such magic event
[23:03] <Platonides> you could produce that if the symbols weren't mapped in the xmodmap
[23:03] <Platonides> but of course, if it then works, they are
[23:06] <texla> Bashing-om, https://pastebin.com/zhrRNtzL will show the other in a minute
[23:07] <Bashing-om> texla: "sudo dpkg -i " that is to be a lower case ell . 'l' .
[23:10] <texla> Bashing-om, https://pastebin.com/n1bJgvx5
[23:13] <Bashing-om> texla: Be aware I am not a proponent of multi-desktops. That "show" was to allow you to make a educated decision before proceeding. You are aware that there can be duplications of dektop apps when 2 DEs are installed, right ?
[23:15] <texla> Bashing-om, https://pastebin.com/9nWgNhXR
[23:18] <Bashing-om> texla: "ii  ubuntu-desktop" says that it is installed, As such I do expect there to be a option in that startup dropdown to activate GDM3's environment. check again ?
[23:18] <texla> Bashing-om, I do not want dual de The xfce is a pita in this distro I want to only have gnome-shell
[23:20] <Bashing-om> texla: Not for the faint hearted to try and remove a DE ... best I can advise is a clean fresh install of ubuntu.
[23:22] <texla> Bashing-om, Great suggestion will proceed with your idea thanks for the info and help I have a dvd so should be easy reinstall
[23:23] <Bashing-om> texla: How are your scripting skills ? I do have an old script to aid in removing a DE to return to a pure environment. But will need to be adjusted to your use case.
[23:37] <malgokrom> Salut
[23:38] <malgokrom> Je suis sur le canal #cimetiere ou quoi ?
[23:41] <jeremy31> !fr | malgokrom
[23:41] <malgokrom> ok merci
[23:42] <jeremy31> malgokrom: sorry
[23:46] <chrometiger_> I know this may not be a ubuntu question but every time I boot my computer I have to boot it at least twice.   sometimes says "error, failed to read write through hd0"   any ideas ?
[23:49] <Krenair> Platonides, I'm also seeing occasional repeating of characters I type
[23:49] <Krenair> like sometimes I'll go to do something like 01 and out will come 0101
[23:54] <Bashing-om> chrometiger_: Have you taken a failing hard drive out of the equation - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Smartmontools ?