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Trevinhoduflu: hey, thanks for the reply... I've got it in real hardware and single monitor as in the video. andyrock too but IIRC only in a monitor...03:11
dufluTrevinho, what distro and special things would I need to reproduce it?03:12
TrevinhoAnyways if you could try that ppa / git repo...03:12
Trevinhoduflu: just use the ppa I've linked you03:12
dufluAh. I just assumed that can't possibly be the problem03:12
Trevinhoduflu: well... I guess you can see it just using xrandr and scale things down.. So using something like scale 2x203:13
dufluTrevinho, yes that almost makes sense. I will look today03:13
TrevinhoCool, thanks!03:14
dufluTrevinho, actually I can probably guess...03:14
TrevinhoHaving some sleep instead... :-)03:14
dufluTrevinho, yes you sleep03:15
Trevinhoehehe... Feel free to email me if you get something else in mind03:15
TrevinhoNight!03:15
dufluNight-ish03:15
tjaaltonRAOF: hey, does your archive-admin powers include handling NEW?06:42
RAOFtjaalton: yes!06:42
RAOFYou also happen to have caught me on Vanguard day.06:43
RAOFWhat can I do you for?06:43
tjaaltonoh cool06:44
tjaaltonthere's linux-signed-oem for bionic06:44
tjaaltonbinaries in NEW06:44
tjaaltonalso, I'm packaging stuff for intel's opencl/media stack, and intel-mediasdk is in disco NEW (also uploaded to debian but can't wait for them)06:45
RAOFHm. So, it occurs to me that accepting from binary NEW (as opposed to reviewing and accepting from source NEW) was not covered in the training I did :)06:46
tjaaltonahh ok06:46
tjaaltonsil2100 just forgot that part yesterday06:46
RAOFBut I'll have a look at intel-mediasdk for you now.06:47
tjaaltonexcellent, thank06:47
tjaaltons06:47
RAOFHm. Or maybe tomorrow morning, sorry. It's EOD here.07:05
didrocksgood morning!07:06
tjaaltonRAOF: ok, no worries07:15
oSoMoNgood morning desktoppers07:16
didrockssalut oSoMoN, ça va ?07:19
oSoMoNsalut didrocks! très bien, et toi?07:23
* oSoMoN goes to school, bbiab07:25
didrocksoSoMoN: ça va :)07:27
dufluMorning oSoMoN and didrocks07:27
dufluBack in a bit07:42
jibelHi all07:43
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dufluHi jibel08:12
oSoMoNhi duflu, jibel08:47
willcookemorning08:48
didrockshey willcooke, duflu08:48
dufluMorning willcooke08:48
seb128good morning desktopers08:53
oSoMoNsalut seb128, ça va?08:56
oSoMoNmorning willcooke08:56
willcookeyo yo yo08:57
willcookeI thought Spring had arrived yesterday, but it's back to normal now08:57
willcookei.e. raining08:57
didrockshey seb12808:59
seb128oSoMoN, bof, I think I'm next having the flu after the kid & gf08:59
didrocksblue sky here, but cold08:59
didrocksseb128: a never ending story :(09:00
oSoMoN:/09:00
seb128fever and shivering today :/09:00
seb128didrocks, indeed :/09:00
oSoMoNseb128, get some rest and take it easy, that's the most efficient remedy09:00
dufluMorning seb128. Hopefully it stays good09:01
didrocksyeah, sounds like the best strategy09:01
seb128trying to09:08
seb128but I'm on holidays next week and then it's almost end of the cycle09:08
seb128I've things to finish this week :/09:09
Laneyhey09:10
* Laney pats seb128 09:10
seb128hey Laney, how are you?09:10
Laneyyou might actually get more good work done if you get back to health quicker though :(09:10
Laneynot bad thanks09:10
willcookeseb128, duflu - ace hub posts re: fractional scaling, thanks!09:19
willcookeseb128, go to bed09:19
dufluwillcooke, it doesn't feel good to point out problems. And I wish I hadn't put any contention into Seb's mind when he should be resting09:20
willcookeit's good to have a discussion about it09:21
willcookeand it's there for testing09:22
seb128duflu, don't worry about me, I wish we had communicated better as a team about the work when it started, but it's done now09:25
seb128but it's not the end of the world, let's focus on what we have now and make the best of it09:25
seb128duflu, and you should go enjoy your evening :)09:25
dufluIt is odd that Ubuntu Chrome is so willing to cast to Chromecast etc, but Chromebooks are not10:09
duflu(in guest mode at least)10:09
oSoMoNseb128, I'm considering adding gstreamer1.0-gtk3 as a recommends of libreoffice-avmedia-backend-gstreamer to fix bug #1820062. libreoffice-avmedia-backend-gstreamer is in main, whereas gstreamer1.0-gtk3 is in universe, but its source package itself is in main (gst-plugins-good1.0). This would automatically promote gstreamer1.0-gtk3 to main, right? is that a reasonable approach?10:12
ubot5bug 1820062 in libreoffice (Ubuntu) "LibreOffice Impress embed video problem (libreoffice-gtk3)" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/182006210:12
seb128oSoMoN, yes, as soon as something starts trying to pull it in it's going to show on component mismatch10:36
seb128then an archive admin just have to move the binary since that source is already approved10:36
seb128oSoMoN, you probably need a FFe though if that enables a new functionality to work out of the box10:37
jbichadidrocks: thanks for working on osinfo/gnome-boxes. feel free to let me know if you run into problems with it10:44
jbichagood morning10:44
didrocksjbicha: tests are failing, and I talked with upstream, we need both libosinfo and osinfo-db updates10:44
didrocksupdated*10:44
didrockshence the FFe, let's see if/when acked10:45
jbichado you know if it's safe to upgrade osinfo-db without upgrading libosinfo? (wondering for Debian and well, we sometimes do SRUs for osinfo-db)10:49
oSoMoNseb128, in that case it's not a new feature, it just fixes the rendering of embedded videos in office docs10:54
didrocksjbicha: this way, it would be safe, but osinfo-db contains automated preseed installation10:54
didrockswhich has not be tested withotu latest libosinfo10:55
seb128oSoMoN, I'm never sure with those cases, you can argue that libreoffice is currently not rendering videos and that adding the recommends enable a feature that isn't there today (or said differently, playing of video hasn't been tested at all so we can't trust it's going to work without issue)10:56
seb128oSoMoN, check with Laney/someone fomr ubuntu-release though10:56
jbichadidrocks: ok. everytime I have asked the Debian maintainer to do a new osinfo-db release, he has done one very quickly so maybe he can take care of that part for you :)10:56
didrocksjbicha: doesn't change that we need the FFe acked10:57
didrocksupdating isn't the pb10:57
jbichaoh I guess there's already Debian bug 91949210:57
ubot5Debian bug 919492 in osinfo-db "Please upgrade to last version" [Wishlist,Open] http://bugs.debian.org/91949210:57
jbichayes I understand10:58
oSoMoNseb128, it could also be argued that video playback once worked in libreoffice, and it regressed at some point (not so recent)… but I get your point, I'll ask around before doing anything10:59
seb128oSoMoN, tg11:02
seb128oSoMoN, the question is mainly, how confident are you that gstreamer1.0-gtk3 is solid and has no bug11:03
jbichakenvandine: could you follow up on https://code.launchpad.net/~buo-ren-lin/gnome-system-monitor/fix-snap/+merge/364768 ?11:11
oSoMoNseb128, right, that's a good question, I don't know the code, but it's part of the "good" set of gstreamer plugins, so supposedly the quality is good enough11:15
seb128oSoMoN, the FFe process is there to ensure we land new features/components early enough in the cycle to have time to get feedback and resolve potential issues11:16
seb128or to make us think about how we test and the risk/benefit when we land late11:16
seb128oSoMoN, anyway, you have mly opinion, I do agree it would be nice to have and I think it's should be a FFe but I'm not part of the release team so check with them :)11:17
willcookeoSoMoN, can we test in the snap first?  Would that make much difference?11:17
oSoMoNyeah, I should have fixed that much earlier in the cycle11:17
oSoMoNwillcooke, good point, let me see if the fix applies as-is to the snap11:18
willcookeit might give us an easy way to get feedback11:18
seb128no need of the snap11:18
seb128I mean it's an apt install away11:18
willcookeohh11:18
willcookeI see11:18
willcookeright11:18
seb128you can also ask on the community hub if you want feedback11:18
seb128but I would just do the FFe, I think it's probably fine to have it accepted11:19
jbichakenvandine: my instinct is that it's intentional for gnome-system-monitor to be hidden on KDE Plasma, but I'll let you handle it11:30
tkamppeterAnyone can help me on a release numbering problem? I want to use https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/libqmi/1.22.0-1.2 as SRU for Bionic without any change in the source package, only build on Bionic. Which version/release number should I give to it?11:34
ubot5Ubuntu bug 1 in Ubuntu Malaysia LoCo Team "Microsoft has a majority market share" [Critical,In progress]11:34
tkamppeterThe SRU bug is bug 1819615.11:35
ubot5bug 1819615 in modemmanager (Ubuntu Bionic) "For additional hardware support, modemmanager needs to be upgraded to 1.10 on Bionic" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/181961511:35
kenvandinejbicha: I'll need to think about that one.  I'm a little surprised upstream specifically hides it in KDE11:41
oSoMoNwillcooke, seb128: just adding that package to the snap fixes video playback indeed, that's a good data point11:46
willcookecool11:54
willcookemorning kenvandine11:54
kenvandinewillcooke: good morning11:54
oSoMoNgood morning kenvandine12:14
oSoMoNkenvandine, we talked about that a while ago but I hadn't gotten around to doing it until today: https://phabricator.services.mozilla.com/D2414712:15
seb128isantop_, thx for commenting on that gnome-software bug, I didn't think about checking that they didn't have the current version :/12:41
kenvandineoSoMoN: cool12:55
tkamppeterAnyone could help me on my question above?13:24
tjaaltontkamppeter: add ~ubuntu18.04.113:24
tkamppetertjaalton, thanks.13:25
tkamppeterkenvandine, seb128, willcooke, I have attached the new libqmi debdiff to bug 1819615. Now everything is ready for uploading the packages.13:51
ubot5bug 1819615 in modemmanager (Ubuntu Bionic) "For additional hardware support, modemmanager needs to be upgraded to 1.10 on Bionic" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/181961513:51
willcookegood stuf, thanks tkamppeter13:54
willcooketkamppeter, I just saw this:13:59
willcookehttps://discourse.ubuntu.com/t/the-road-to-disco-what-features-might-go-in-what-features-actually-hit-the-repos/9347/61?u=willcooke13:59
willcookeSomeone saying that wifi is suddenly broken in Disco.13:59
willcookeI'll try and reproduce.13:59
willcookeCould be nothing13:59
willcookeoh14:00
willcookeignore14:00
willcookeThe thread has an edit which didnt show in my email14:00
willcookeNothing to do with n-m at all14:00
tkamppeterOK, discovered the same as I clicked the link.14:01
tkamppeterSeems that one gets notifications only on new posts, not on edits.14:02
tkamppeterSo then I know that I should not edit my weekly reports (this week I edited it three times, not knowing that this does not cause notifications).14:02
kenvandinetkamppeter: thanks14:10
kenvandinejibel: today's iso does have the snaps, no idea why it's so much smaller14:54
willcookeinteresting, thanks for checking kenvandine14:57
seb128kenvandine, willcooke, https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/Qc7GZrvbMZ/16:02
seb128we are missing all translations16:02
seb128including libreoffice and firefox ones16:03
* seb128 looks at didrocks 16:03
seb128:p16:03
willcookebah16:03
seb128kenvandine, willcooke, that's a diff of the manifest between current and pending16:03
seb128even french is missing, sabotage!16:03
willcookezut alors!16:04
seb128the day where I'm sick, strange coincidence...16:04
didrockshum, interesting… the tasks doesn't work then16:04
didrocksI'll handle it (but probably tomorrow, just checking quickly it's not screwed up)16:05
seb128didrocks, it's only the image in pending so tomorrow is fine16:05
didrocksno typo on first look: https://git.launchpad.net/livecd-rootfs/commit/?id=995f3cf9e0e09da3b9a2b192cb8b5de68c07990616:07
didrockswonder if there isn't another add_task call and that erases the first one16:07
didrocksohhh16:07
didrocksno, I know16:08
didrockslet me fix it16:08
seb128:)16:08
didrocksit's not add_task $LIVE_TASK ubuntu-desktop-minimal-default-languages ubuntu-desktop-default-languages16:08
seb128didrocks coding ninja16:08
didrocksit's add_task live ubuntu-desktop-minimal-default-languages ubuntu-desktop-default-languages16:08
didrocksfsdiojfsdiojfsdiojfsdpofsdHorribleAPIDesign :p16:08
seb128:-)16:10
didrocks2.573 uploaded, tomorrow's image will be with expected default languages :p16:13
oSoMoNdidrocks, au nom du peuple français, merci!16:30
didrocksoSoMoN: lalala :)16:42
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oSoMoNgood evening / rest of the day everyone17:45
tkamppeterCan someone have a look at bug 1821052? Or do something that I get access to it?18:15
ubot5Error: Launchpad bug 1821052 could not be found18:15
sarnoldhey tkamppeter, it's been marked private security; let me inspect the attachments to see if there's private data that needs to be scrubbed out18:16
sarnoldtkamppeter: should be public now18:24
tkamppetersarnold, thanks, I can access it now.18:25
tkamppetersarnold, should I not have access to private bugs of network-manager, modemmanager, ... by default, as I have access on private CUPS bugs?18:26
willcookegotta go, night all18:26
sarnoldtkamppeter: perhaps, I don't know much about that. I think asking in #launchpad for the privileges would be a good start18:28
kenvandinetkamppeter: see me comments on libmbim and libqmi debdiffs18:47
tkamppeterkenvandine, now I see what I have overlooked. Will upload new ones.18:57
kenvandinetkamppeter: thanks18:57
tkamppeterkenvandine, this would mean that in Disco some of the Ubuntu-specific things of Bionic got dropped?19:00
tkamppeterkenvandine, fixed libqmi uploaded.19:18
tkamppeterkenvandine, in libmbim the Ubuntu change is a patch which is not applicable any more in the current version. Should we keep the debdiff as current then? Or do I need to add the original changelog entry of the patch addition and in my current changelog entry the removal of the patch?19:33
kenvandinemake sure the changelog includes the version that's in bionic and you just include in your version that the patch has been removed19:39
tkamppeterOK, I am doing so now, and change the version numbering to ~ubuntu18.04.119:40
kenvandineyeah19:40
kenvandinetkamppeter: also make sure your modemmanager debdiff includes the version in bionic as well19:41
kenvandinetkamppeter: basically i'm going to start with the source that's in bionic and apply your debdiff19:41
tkamppeterkenvandine, modemmanager has the upstream versions of the two new libs in Build-Depends. Do you mean this?19:42
kenvandinei meant in the debian/changelog19:45
kenvandinetkamppeter: make sure it has 1.6.8-2ubuntu119:46
tkamppeterWill check and fix this, too.19:47
kenvandinetkamppeter: thanks19:48
tkamppeterkenvandine, 1.6.8-2ubuntu1 entry was already in the changelog, but I added a comment in my entry that the patch (the only Ubuntu special) got included upstream and I also change the version numbering to ~ubuntu18.04.1.20:04
tkamppeterkenvandine, the libmbim debdiff I have already uploaded by the way.20:04
tkamppeterkenvandine, modemmanager debdiff with new version number uploaded.20:15
TrevinhoLaney: when you've a sec can you publish https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/364120:33
Trevinhoor well kenvandine since you're here at this time, maybe you also can :) ^20:34
jbichakenvandine: the general idea is that KDE users would be using kde's system monitor app. On the other hand, I don't think GNOME Software respects OnlyShowIn when showing apps available to install…23:46
jbichathere's an argument either way, so that's why I'm happy to delegate and let someone else make the hard decisions 😉23:47

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