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lynoriandid we ever fix k3b not being in disco before the huge infrastructure hiccup?19:11
wxllynorian: looks like it according to the manifest19:20
lynorianOk I need to work on k3b on the manual a ton 19:48
lynoriangot 2 commits done on it19:48
wxl@tsimonq2: meeting?19:55
lubot<teward001> ERR:@tsimonq2IsNotHere20:13
lubot<teward001> :P20:13
wxlwell i have no way of knowing XD20:13
wxlah the problems with the telegram bridge20:13
lubot<teward001> > Last Seen 3 Hours Ago20:13
wxlat least ya'll know when matrix people are here ;þ20:14
tewardErr: Simon Is Missing20:14
tewardResult: PARTY HARD!20:14
teward*shot*20:14
lubot<kc2bez> Isn't our meeting normally in 35 minutes or so?20:24
wxlnormally20:24
lubot<kc2bez> Ok. I was thinking it was early.20:24
wxli feel like we missed last week's meeting or am i wrong? maybe i missed it20:26
lubot<kc2bez> We probably did.20:26
wxli started keeping a worklog and it's a week old20:26
lubot<kc2bez> It was a little hectic (more so than normal).20:26
lubot<tsimonq2> Yeah, we missed it20:26
wxlof course i haven't done much this last week bah :/20:26
lubot<kc2bez> See y'all in a bit when I get home.20:27
wxlo/20:28
lubot<HMollerCl> I forgot you change time, so it is in 20 more minutes?20:39
lubot<tsimonq2> Yup20:44
lubot<teward001> lies, it's in 15 minutes 😛20:44
lubot<tsimonq2> *shot*20:45
lubot<tsimonq2> I might not be around in time20:45
lubot<HMollerCl> I will be in the subway I think20:45
kc2bezSorry I'm late.21:11
lubot<tsimonq2> It's all good21:11
lubot<tsimonq2> Wanna go first, Dan?21:12
kc2bezSure.21:12
kc2bezI tried to pull as much as I could from the google cache pages to reconstruct the phab tasks and wiki.21:12
kc2bezI still have the tar files if we need21:13
kc2bezThat is pretty much it from me I think.21:14
wxlhey a thought about that..... maybe we should make a coordinated effort to get everything back up?21:14
wxlor work on a more programmatic solution?21:14
kc2bezWhat ever you suggest, I am all ears. I was just trying to save it before we lost it.21:15
wxland dan, seriously, that is the most awesome thing anyone could have done21:16
kc2bezI wasn't able to get every task but I think all the wiki was there.21:16
wxlso my thoughts: either go the cheap route and we just split it up, or we actually take the time to maybe look at what posting apis may or may not exist for phabricator and try to figure out a programmatic solution. might be a lot of parsing21:16
lubot<tsimonq2> I don't think the programatic solution would be easy, however, we do need a backup system21:18
lubot<HMollerCl> Google cache is in HTML?21:18
kc2bezyes21:18
wxlwhy do you think the programmatic solution would be difficult, @tsimonq2 ?21:19
lubot<HMollerCl> Sorry, the programmatic is to load the backup or backups in the future?21:19
wxlno21:19
wxlthe situation is that we have caches that we can use to restore some of our lost content21:20
wxlof course to do it we have to take the cache and process it in some way or another to get it posted back on phabricator21:20
lubot<tsimonq2> @wxl [<wxl> why do you think the programmatic solution would be difficult, @tsimonq2 ?], Parsing the HTML and turning it into rst21:20
lubot<tsimonq2> I don't know if that's exactly easy21:20
kc2bezold T154 would be a bear for example.21:21
lubot<HMollerCl> Mmm, I know nothing from rst, but parsing HTML is easy21:22
kc2bezI also don't know how important it is to have the task numbers match is.21:22
lubot<HMollerCl> In php simplehtmldom is very easy to use21:22
kc2beztoo many is's there.21:23
wxlright, there's probably libraries we could use, even to convert back into rst21:23
lynorianpandoc does lots of converting I would check there21:23
lubot<HMollerCl> Every webscrapping tool handles html21:24
wxldo you want to see if you can't come up with a solution @HMollerCl? i suggest looking into it generally/casually. don't spend a lot of time on it. if we can't get an easy answer, let's just split up the content and do it manually21:24
kc2bezI agree with wxl21:24
lubot<HMollerCl> Ok21:26
wxlthank you21:26
wxland since dan is done... and i've got your attention, you've got anything @HMollerCl?21:26
lubot<HMollerCl> Has anyone look into the DOM of those html?21:26
wxli think the only thing that's been done is that @tsimonq2 has been putting some of them back up manually21:28
lubot<HMollerCl> Not much, there are still things I don't understand why icons that where white now are dark (about lxqt, nm-tray, among others)21:28
lubot<tsimonq2> @wxl [<wxl> i think the only thing that's been done is that @tsimonq2 has been putting …], Yeah21:28
lubot<HMollerCl> And I don't understand why the software - properties - qt - drivers. Desktop doesn't appear21:29
lynorianwell pandoc supports html input21:29
lubot<HMollerCl> Need to check those21:29
lubot<HMollerCl> Pandoc?21:29
wxlpython21:29
wxlhttps://pandoc.org/21:29
lubot<HMollerCl> I have to look at the backup21:30
wxloh whoa i'm wrong21:30
lubot<HMollerCl> And see how is the dom21:30
wxli always thought pandoc was python. it's haskell21:30
lubot<HMollerCl> Haskell?21:30
wxlthere is a library though https://pypi.org/project/pypandoc/21:30
lynorianeven better is in repos21:31
wxlhaskell is a super rad purely functional programming language21:31
lubot<kc2bez> @HMollerCl [And I don't understand why the software - properties - qt - drivers. Desktop doe …], In the menu?21:32
lubot<HMollerCl> @kc2bez [In the menu?], Yes21:32
lubot<kc2bez> Preferences —> Software sources21:32
lynorianI think it was not is cosmic but is in disco21:33
lubot<HMollerCl> @kc2bez [Preferences —> Software sources], Yes, but it should be another. Desktop that goes directly to tab 421:33
lubot<kc2bez> Oh, I gotcha now.21:33
wxli'm confused about what ya'll are talking about21:34
wxli guess a bug/task would be a good place to start :)21:34
lubot<HMollerCl> Wxl: Software-properties-qt21:34
lubot<HMollerCl> I added 2. Desktop to the menu, only 1 appear21:35
lubot<kc2bez> T14421:35
wxloh21:35
lubot<HMollerCl> Anyway @kc2bez where can I see those html?21:36
lubot<kc2bez> Sure, I sent the link to the tar in the members chat but I can PM you.21:37
lubot<HMollerCl> And I would need the rst info to know in what I need to transform the html21:37
lubot<HMollerCl> Where can I get the rst info?21:38
wxlthe desktop for software sources seems to just lxqt-sudo software-properties-qt.. is that right?21:38
wxlreStructured Text21:38
lubot<HMollerCl> @wxl [<wxl> the desktop for software sources seems to just lxqt-sudo software-properti …], That's one, but should. Be another21:39
wxlhttp://docutils.sourceforge.net/rst.html21:39
lubot<HMollerCl> @wxl [<wxl> reStructured Text], Yes, but how it should be loaded into phab21:39
lubot<HMollerCl> Task, details, comments, etc...21:40
wxlTHAT i don't know21:40
wxllooking at whether or not phabricator has a posting api will be the key21:40
lubot<HMollerCl> @wxl [<wxl> looking at whether or not phabricator has a posting api will be the key], That's the main issue21:41
wxlyes21:41
lubot<HMollerCl> OK, will look at it21:41
lubot<HMollerCl> That will be on my side21:41
lubot<HMollerCl> (I have to take a bike now)21:42
lubot<kc2bez> Thanks Hans.21:43
lubot<tsimonq2> Thanks!21:43
wxlbai21:43
wxlok who's next?21:43
lubot<tsimonq2> Nothing for me except recovering from data loss21:43
lynorianI have not gone yet 21:44
wxlthat's big stuff. thanks for that.21:44
lynorianYes thanks for getting stuff backup tsimonq221:44
wxlone quick thing, though.... what IS our backup plan?21:44
lubot<tsimonq2> No problem, it's been a draining week and I'm about to go AFK for a few hours to get some fresh air and unwind21:44
wxl@tsimonq2: you see my question?21:47
lubot<tsimonq2> Which?21:47
wxlone quick thing, though.... what IS our backup plan?21:47
wxlmaybe i have to hlight you to get an answer? XD21:49
wxl@tsimonq2 one quick thing, though.... what IS our backup plan?21:49
lubot<tsimonq2> Sorry21:51
lubot<tsimonq2> I'll let @teward001 elaborate on that21:51
lubot<tsimonq2> He has a plan, for sure21:51
wxlok21:51
wxlin that case, carry on, my wayward son. there'll be peace when you are done.21:52
wxl@lynorian: you want next?21:53
lynorianyes21:53
lynorianI have set up 2fa now21:53
lynorianI also did lots of manual stuff major improvements of kde partition manager and qps21:54
wxlooh qps21:54
lynorianI also have kept on polishing many other applicatoins like featherpad and qterminal21:55
lubot<kc2bez> Yeah, cool!21:55
wxlqool you mean21:55
lubot<kc2bez> Right!21:55
lynorianI also added build dependencies to the README for stuff needed to make a pdf21:56
wxlgreat!!!!21:57
lynorianwhich I still have not figured out the chapter numbering21:57
lynorianI polished a ton of lxqt-panel 21:57
lynorianpolished up muon package manager21:58
lynorianI did a ton of polishing last week21:58
wxlyou are amazing, lynorian 21:59
lubot<kc2bez> Indeed.21:59
lynorianlots of the prefrences for lxqt21:59
lynorianI may need to get mulitple version built as I have not started on new stuff for 19.04 though21:59
lynorianwhile not confusing 18.10 users22:00
lynorianthen the whole data loss happened22:00
lynorianand today I am working on k3b more22:00
lynorianthat is it for me22:02
wxlok thanks again!22:02
wxlanyone else left or should i go?22:02
lynorianI don't think anyone else is here22:03
lubot<kc2bez> I think it is you wxl.22:04
wxlok i only really have stuff from the week before the infrastructure loss22:04
wxl * Could not reproduce bug 1819009 on real hardware or VM (thanks Chris, Dan, Thomas)22:04
wxl * Triaged bug 1804554 - was expired (can't reproduce on VM) but reproducible on real hardware. Still, it's for pure Openbox, so low (thanks Chris, Dan, Hans)22:04
wxl * Triaged bug 1819322 - fixed.22:04
wxl * Tried to figure out why ISOs weren't uploading due to a Trusty ISO missing from the manifest. Turns out someone archived .5 but didn't remove it, so it only affected some flavors.22:04
wxl * Worked to further confirm bug 1797665 (thanks Dan, Thomas)22:04
ubot93Bug 1819009 in lxterminal (Ubuntu) "Terminal-Emulator shows no prompt when (console) program finished" [Undecided, Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/181900922:04
ubot93Bug 1804554 in lxqt-session (Ubuntu) "18.10: lubuntu sddm crashes with openbox session" [Low, Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/180455422:04
ubot93Bug 1819322 in qterminal (Ubuntu) "QTerminal doesn't start after update" [Undecided, Fix Released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/181932222:04
ubot93Bug 1797665 in trojita (Ubuntu) "segfault when repeatedly sorting" [Medium, Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/179766522:04
wxljeez what's up with the bot?22:04
wxlthere it goes22:05
kc2bezThe bridge was slow too.22:05
wxlthere's also someone else who has popped up on bug 1782984 and i need to get them to further confirm, but i'm still convinced it's a gtk2 bug.. which makes me want to not even bother because LXDE is probably never going to get gtk3 compliant.. at least not before the next api breaking gtk update comes uot XD22:06
lubot<tsimonq2> @wxl [<wxl> in that case, carry on, my wayward son. there'll be peace when you are don …], Thanks dude22:06
ubot93Bug 1782984 in pcmanfm (Ubuntu) "PCManFM crashes frequently  on Lubuntu 18.04" [Undecided, Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/178298422:06
wxlincidentially the bug has kind of become a great way to promote LXQt X'''D22:07
wxland that's about it for me22:07
kc2bezThanks for everything wxl22:08
wxli don't want to say anything due to fear of jinxing but i should have some free time soon so should see a little more from me22:08
lubot<HMollerCl> @wxl [<wxl> incidentially the bug has kind of become a great way to promote LXQt X'''D], Actually that's one of the things why I was interested in 18.10 at the beginning22:08
wxl@HMollerCl as i said on the bug, trying to make it GTK3 compliant is essentially what compelled PCMan to do a Qt port because he found that compared to GTK3, Qt was actually better at resource usage.. so this is an important thing to remember when people complain about Qt versus GTK2. 22:09
lubot<HMollerCl> There was a question in the Spanish group about Wayland in lubuntu. Are there answers?22:41
guivercapologies to everyone, I just realized it's friday.. i didn't have anything to say anyway, but sorry for my belated..23:10
wxl@HMollerCl https://github.com/lxqt/lxqt/issues/1023:20
ubot93Issue 10 in lxqt/lxqt "Wayland support" [Open]23:20
lubot<HMollerCl> wxl: long thread23:22
wxlguiverc: no prob. i know you've been doing bug stuff and it's been appreciated.23:22
wxl@HMollerCl indeed23:22
lubot<HMollerCl> https://secure.phabricator.com/book/phabricator/article/conduit_edit/23:23
lubot<HMollerCl> there is an api23:23
wxlDrewRWx: do you have any insight on lxqt/wayland?23:23
wxl@HMollerCl that's a good sign then! 23:25
lubot<HMollerCl> tasks seems more doable23:37
lubot<HMollerCl> in the wiki I haven't found a concrete structure that would be easy to parse all of them23:38
wxlwell 50% is better than 023:38
lubot<HMollerCl> https://github.com/enckse/phabricator-tools  this might be usefull for backups23:47
wxl^^^ @teward00123:47

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