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| Unit193 | xfdesktop4 4.13.3-1 uploaded to experimental by Yves-Alexis Perez (corsac) | 10:21 |
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| Unit193 | bluesabre: Isn't there a patch you wanted to add to xfdesktop4? | 10:23 |
| Unit193 | xfce4-settings is behind a point release, is this intended? | 10:26 |
| Unit193 | (As is xfconf, but that one isn't in Debian at least.) | 10:27 |
| Unit193 | Also I'm carrying a local xfce4-terminal for disco to improve URL detection, this makes things nicer for me but am I supposed to actually do something with it? (This would break sync.) | 10:40 |
| bluesabre | Unit193, not been around my computer, but... yes, there's a patch I need to upload for xfdesktop4, xfce4-settings would be good to catch up, and if we can improve the terminal, neat :) | 11:15 |
| Unit193 | I dunno, I kind of just did it because it was a quirk I kept hitting. Kind of forgot I don't need to wait for a release. | 11:16 |
| ochosi | settings would be good for the display profile feature | 11:38 |
| Unit193 | Ah right, featurefull. I guess that's why we skipped.. | 11:40 |
| ochosi | Unit193: :/ | 14:17 |
| Spass | hi, I think we should open our official support channel to Matrix, seems like it's really easy to bridge existing IRC channel without too much hustle | 18:20 |
| Spass | I'm talking about #xubuntu only, without -devel of course | 18:20 |
| ochosi | and matrix is what exactly..? | 18:21 |
| ochosi | (i think there are also bridges for e.g. slack) | 18:21 |
| knome | some other new flashy think | 18:21 |
| knome | official slack bridges are shut down. | 18:21 |
| knome | there are irc daemons for slack now though. | 18:21 |
| knome | but that's not something for an official solution from the groups side, more likely needs to be set up per-user | 18:22 |
| knome | but for the matrix thing, i'm not really sure we want another outlet we might need to maintain (even if it's easy to bridge) | 18:22 |
| Spass | for example, this is how #xubuntu-pl looks on Riot (Matrix client) after bridging - https://ibb.co/mFDhS3Y | 18:25 |
| Spass | absolutely nothing changes from the IRC standpoint | 18:26 |
| Spass | but the channel is visible for Matrix users who can join and talk | 18:26 |
| ondondil | to be fair, matrix-freenode bridge already exists. I'm writing this from matrix client | 18:26 |
| Spass | so, the thing to consider is making it visible in the room catalog (and maybe setting an avatar...) | 18:29 |
| Spass | anyway, just a small suggestion :) | 18:31 |
| ondondil | here's more info on how matrix-irc bridges work from user's standpoint if anyone's interested | 18:36 |
| ondondil | https://github.com/matrix-org/matrix-appservice-irc/wiki/Permissioning-in-Portal-vs-Plumbed-rooms#portal-rooms | 18:36 |
| knome | Spass, are you willing/interested in maintaining such things? | 18:38 |
| knome | because there will always be some maintaining efforet required, and it's unlikely we will find anybody else to take that work right now | 18:38 |
| Spass | I'm not exactly sure how it works, but I think that only OP can make #xubuntu visible in Matrix, but of course I can help with that and maintain it, at least I can try | 18:39 |
| ondondil | Making an IRC channel visible in Matrix room catalog is just a matter of flipping a switch in room settings but only OP can do that. In case of doubt, Freenode is one of the networks where Op's Sync'ing is enabled | 18:40 |
| Spass | from my understanding it shouldn't require much maintenance | 18:40 |
| Spass | so the question is - does any OP from #xubuntu has a Matrix account and is willing to flip the switch, of course if the team wants that at all | 18:42 |
| Spass | maybe the team could discuss that on the next meeting? | 18:43 |
| Spass | Matrix is getting some traction now, I think the whole KDE team is moving to Matrix | 18:44 |
| knome | the xubuntu team is unlikely to move to matrix as many of the team are long-time irc users | 18:45 |
| knome | but that doesn't mean we can't support matrix for the support channels - if we think it might be useful | 18:46 |
| Spass | I completely understand, moving to Matrix is not a good direction for now, but making #xubuntu visible in Matrix catalog doesn't change anything on IRC, it just opens the channel for new users (which may be good or wrong, like every change) | 18:49 |
| Spass | *or bad | 18:50 |
| Spass | but I wanted to share that suggestion with the team after I saw how good it worked with #xubuntu-pl :) | 18:51 |
| knome | yes, sure | 19:21 |
| knome | i'm not saying it can't be a good idea. i just don't use matrix myself so i don't really know how it might benefit us. | 19:21 |
| knome | ultimately i think that having many and again many different options to get support (even if it pointed to the same resource) can be frustrating and overwhelming. | 19:22 |
| Spass | yes, I see your point | 19:23 |
| knome | that aside, i'm sure we can get one of the ops helping with the matrix integration should we decide to do that | 19:24 |
| knome | (or grant a new person *ahem* said op privileges) | 19:24 |
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