=== brainwash_ is now known as brainwash [10:21] xfdesktop4 4.13.3-1 uploaded to experimental by Yves-Alexis Perez (corsac) [10:23] bluesabre: Isn't there a patch you wanted to add to xfdesktop4? [10:26] xfce4-settings is behind a point release, is this intended? [10:27] (As is xfconf, but that one isn't in Debian at least.) [10:40] Also I'm carrying a local xfce4-terminal for disco to improve URL detection, this makes things nicer for me but am I supposed to actually do something with it? (This would break sync.) [11:15] Unit193, not been around my computer, but... yes, there's a patch I need to upload for xfdesktop4, xfce4-settings would be good to catch up, and if we can improve the terminal, neat :) [11:16] I dunno, I kind of just did it because it was a quirk I kept hitting. Kind of forgot I don't need to wait for a release. [11:38] settings would be good for the display profile feature [11:40] Ah right, featurefull. I guess that's why we skipped.. [14:17] Unit193: :/ [18:20] hi, I think we should open our official support channel to Matrix, seems like it's really easy to bridge existing IRC channel without too much hustle [18:20] I'm talking about #xubuntu only, without -devel of course [18:21] and matrix is what exactly..? [18:21] (i think there are also bridges for e.g. slack) [18:21] some other new flashy think [18:21] official slack bridges are shut down. [18:21] there are irc daemons for slack now though. [18:22] but that's not something for an official solution from the groups side, more likely needs to be set up per-user [18:22] but for the matrix thing, i'm not really sure we want another outlet we might need to maintain (even if it's easy to bridge) [18:25] for example, this is how #xubuntu-pl looks on Riot (Matrix client) after bridging - https://ibb.co/mFDhS3Y [18:26] absolutely nothing changes from the IRC standpoint [18:26] but the channel is visible for Matrix users who can join and talk [18:26] to be fair, matrix-freenode bridge already exists. I'm writing this from matrix client [18:29] so, the thing to consider is making it visible in the room catalog (and maybe setting an avatar...) [18:31] anyway, just a small suggestion :) [18:36] here's more info on how matrix-irc bridges work from user's standpoint if anyone's interested [18:36] https://github.com/matrix-org/matrix-appservice-irc/wiki/Permissioning-in-Portal-vs-Plumbed-rooms#portal-rooms [18:38] Spass, are you willing/interested in maintaining such things? [18:38] because there will always be some maintaining efforet required, and it's unlikely we will find anybody else to take that work right now [18:39] I'm not exactly sure how it works, but I think that only OP can make #xubuntu visible in Matrix, but of course I can help with that and maintain it, at least I can try [18:40] Making an IRC channel visible in Matrix room catalog is just a matter of flipping a switch in room settings but only OP can do that. In case of doubt, Freenode is one of the networks where Op's Sync'ing is enabled [18:40] from my understanding it shouldn't require much maintenance [18:42] so the question is - does any OP from #xubuntu has a Matrix account and is willing to flip the switch, of course if the team wants that at all [18:43] maybe the team could discuss that on the next meeting? [18:44] Matrix is getting some traction now, I think the whole KDE team is moving to Matrix [18:45] the xubuntu team is unlikely to move to matrix as many of the team are long-time irc users [18:46] but that doesn't mean we can't support matrix for the support channels - if we think it might be useful [18:49] I completely understand, moving to Matrix is not a good direction for now, but making #xubuntu visible in Matrix catalog doesn't change anything on IRC, it just opens the channel for new users (which may be good or wrong, like every change) [18:50] *or bad [18:51] but I wanted to share that suggestion with the team after I saw how good it worked with #xubuntu-pl :) [19:21] yes, sure [19:21] i'm not saying it can't be a good idea. i just don't use matrix myself so i don't really know how it might benefit us. [19:22] ultimately i think that having many and again many different options to get support (even if it pointed to the same resource) can be frustrating and overwhelming. [19:23] yes, I see your point [19:24] that aside, i'm sure we can get one of the ops helping with the matrix integration should we decide to do that [19:24] (or grant a new person *ahem* said op privileges)