/srv/irclogs.ubuntu.com/2019/03/25/#ubuntu.txt

excelsiorayay, rebooted without any boot options!00:01
excelsioraboo, shortcut keys don't work, and the screen is bright, she's gonna complain about that...00:03
guivercexcelsiora, fyi: `sudo apt upgrade` has limits to what it can upgrade; use `dist-upgrade` or `full-upgrade` to remove the restrictions/limits00:06
excelsioraeh...00:06
excelsioraI want LTS so I don't have to worry about any issues...00:07
guivercdist-upgrade will not bump your release (unless you modified your sources.list to point to a later release)00:08
guivercfrom `man apt`  it says "full-upgrade performs the function of upgrade but will remove currently installed packages if this is needed to upgrade the system as a whole."  (ie. fewer restictions)00:10
excelsioraAnd this is a bug-free operation?00:12
guivercfull-upgrade is more secure aware; but you're more likely to need to reboot after it, so upgrade allows you to perform some & delay the full-upgrade to a more appropriate time...00:13
Ben64you don't "need" to reboot00:13
guivercrestart services... (rebooting was a lazy option sorry; s/secure/security)00:14
Ben64i mean, you don't even need to restart services00:14
Ben64everything will continue to work00:14
=== captain_fixerpc1 is now known as captainfixerpc14
excelsioraI found the file to edit to make the screen dimmer!00:17
excelsiorastill gotta make the shortcut keys work though...00:17
excelsioraIs this supposed to make those keys work?00:19
excelsiorai.e. it could?00:19
excelsiorasudo apt full-upgrade did nothing :P00:24
EriC^^excelsiora: are you aware of xbacklight?00:24
=== captain_fixerpc1 is now known as captainfixerpc14
excelsioraI also found a gui option to change the display brightness.00:25
excelsioraEriC^^: no?00:25
EriC^^excelsiora: if you're looking to set a shortcut key to dim/brighten the display, look into settings > keyboard shortcuts, and the command xbacklight00:26
evilytwistedhello, i have a quick question, just a disclaimer, IM NOT asking for help00:27
evilytwistedi understand that debian family tree, uses .deb files, open suse family tree uses rpm files etc..,  im not certain what arch family tree uses but i know or at least i think it shouldnt be using .deb files00:27
evilytwistedBut from my distro repo, its obtaining .deb files.00:28
evilytwistedcan i ask why?00:28
evilytwistedfor example. im using manjaro, its a derivative of arch.  trying to update a software and its grabbing .deb file  https://pastebin.com/4vuUgjDG00:28
petrzmaxHi00:30
krytarikevilytwisted: Maybe you should ask your distro support then.00:30
evilytwistedit isnt really a support question.00:30
krytarikWell, this is #ubuntu.00:30
evilytwistedi know.00:30
evilytwistedhence of my disclaimer.00:31
krytarikSo nobody here should be expected to know.00:31
evilytwistedthought maybe someone would know as you guys use .deb files00:31
evilytwistedgeeze... rude much .. anyway .later00:31
ebluok this is kind of a dumb question but00:32
ebluis it really worth it to choose the latest release over lts?00:33
eblui'm trying to get back into ubuntu but i'm the fence about support vs features00:33
leftyfbeblu: there are many (myself included) that suggest sticking with LTS. But it's a personal preference either way. We cannot make that decision for you. Also not a support question.00:34
OerHeksthat depends on your hardware, if you have that demand, there is !HWE too, to get a newer kernel in 18.0400:34
guiverceblu, if you want the latest software, don't mind release-upgrading often (6-9 months) then you can use 18.10; but if you want your system super-stable, changing only every few years (when you release-upgrade to next LTS) then LTS maybe suits00:34
ebluok, thanks00:34
OerHeks!hwe00:34
ubottuThe Ubuntu LTS enablement stacks provide newer kernel and X support for existing LTS releases, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/LTSEnablementStack00:34
OerHeksor go wild with dingo 19.04 beta with kernel 5.0100:35
eblui guess since i'm here anyway00:36
ebluhow frequently does lts get backports?00:36
=== captain_fixerpc1 is now known as captainfixerpc14
eblu...never mind i probably just can google it00:36
ebluthanks though00:37
vinesh:b201:10
vinesh:b201:17
AngelKdeb2301:18
n8chavezbingo01:18
AngelKdeXD01:18
IndustrialHi. I installed the package taskd on my ubuntu server01:29
IndustrialI want to run a Taskwarrior daemon and connect from it from other places (laptop, phone, etc)01:29
IndustrialI see it has created a user in /etc/passwd named "Debian-taskd"01:30
IndustrialI imagine this is the user it will run as01:30
Industrial1) How do I know the service has started? `taskd status` returns nothing.01:30
Industrial2) How do I know where the drectory with files will live that are being synced between my clients? my /home is empty.01:31
Industrial3) Do I need to start the service manually or will it now re-start with the system?01:31
mousesIndustrial: sudo systemctl will give you a list of all running daemons and their status01:31
mousesIndustrial: Not sure, depends on the app - often a systemctl install daemnname will do it for you01:31
Industrialmouses: it's not in there.01:31
herouxmapragmaticenigma so rsync wouuld kind of be based on hashing and a file already backed up would be known01:32
Industrialok01:32
mousesIndustrial: start it01:32
mousesIndustrial: systemctl start name01:32
grashieDoes anyone know any good note taking apps , that allow various encryption types? *possible integration of Google Authenticator to access the notes as well?01:33
Industrialmouses: thanks, works.01:44
mousesIndustrial: glad to help!01:53
mousesIndustrial: systemctl rules, makes life easy01:53
Mr_CyclopsHello. Any experts  here for zoneminder?02:02
vaderHi everyone. I'm on Ubuntu 18.04.2 LTS02:04
vaderfor some reason it keeps logging into tty1 instead of tty702:04
vadercould someone please help me diagnose this strange behavior?02:05
=== vader is now known as vader12345
Bashing-omvader: TTY1 is the default .. see /var/log/Xorg.0.log .02:06
Sushi-sanMr_Cyclops: that program has it's own irc channel here #zoneminder02:06
Sushi-san*its02:06
Mr_CyclopsSushi-san, thanks much, i will try that :)02:06
Sushi-sannp02:07
vader12345Bashing-om, I was under the impression that the default gnome DE runs in TTY702:07
Mr_Cyclopsvader12345, tty1 is the default for console, tty7 for X-desktop02:08
vader12345Mr_Cyclops: OK then, for some reason instead of logging into X-desktop it logs into a GUI login screen on tty1... on tty7 I have autologin without typing a password in, yet it has recently stopped working02:10
Bashing-omvader12345: There was a change to TTY1 for the GUI recently - best I recall I saw it first in 18.04 (?).02:10
=== vader is now known as vader12345
qwebirc45147Hello there, I'm attempting to install Ubuntu 18.04.2 on a desktop that has a corrupt Windows OS. I followed the steps to create a bootable USB from the Ubuntu FAQ and attempted to boot it on the desktop. The desktop gives me a BIOS notification that I need to "Reboot and Select proper Boot device or Insert Boot Media in selected Boot device and press a key" ... Does anyone know what the problem could be?02:43
qwebirc45147Is anyone here?02:45
excelsiora:q02:45
* the2048 waves02:46
the2048I'm here but I haven't experienced your issue or heard of it happening. Sorry man02:46
mousesqwebirc45147: my bet 1) bad install media or 2) (most likely) you forgot to set the BIOS/UEFI to boot from USB02:46
qwebirc45147appreciate the quick reply, and if it's not 1) or 2)? I've re-created the bootable USB 2-3 times and disabled the SATA and CD-ROM devices to allow it to go straight to the removable device option02:48
the2048Is the PC set up so that it'll boot from it though? (UEFI?)02:48
the2048And is it the right architecture?02:49
qwebirc45147Yup correct architecture and set up so it would load through the removable device. Tried two different bootable USB softwares (Rufus and Universal USB Installer)02:52
the2048Hmm02:52
the2048Maybe try an install DVD?02:53
qwebirc45147Kind of at a loss. If the OS wasn't corrupt it would make my life a lot easier but I have to go through the BIOS02:53
mousesqwebirc45147: got a second system that can boot from USB?02:53
qwebirc45147I'm using a microsoft surface, no dvd ports02:53
the2048Oh02:53
mousesqwebirc45147: might want to test the bootable media on another machine02:53
qwebirc45147yeah, should I test and see if its the usb?02:53
mousesya02:53
the2048Test if it's the USB02:53
mousesjust to rule it out02:53
qwebirc45147I'll get on that right now, be back in a bit, thanks mouses good idea02:54
qwebirc45147and the204802:54
qwebirc45147appreciate it02:54
mousesqwebirc45147: no problem, i love troubleshooting - process of elimination rules :)02:54
mekhamii've got windows 10 on my desktop, and i tried to dual boot ubuntu on it a few weeks ago and quite a bit seemed to go wrong. i have an nvidia rtx 2060 gpu and the drivers didn't work at all, and i could never boot into grub so i could choose which OS to use. is there a more or less stupid-proof guide out there to getting this done?02:55
mousesqwebirc45147: if it turns out to be a bad boot image, try burning it with etcher.io -> i've never had etcher fail or make a bad boot image02:55
mekhamii've used ubuntu extensively but i'm not great with installing OS stuff02:55
the2048Dualboot with two hard/solid state drives02:56
the2048Then install GRUB to the main drive02:56
mekhamii could try to do that but i'm not sure i want to, i'd like to have them on partitions02:57
mekhamiwell02:57
mekhamiidk. i'm not sure.02:57
the2048Dualbooting through 2 HDDs/SSDs hasn't ever failed for me02:57
mekhamii have an extra SSD sitting here but i'm not confident in getting it properly connected.02:57
mousesmekhami: install windows first, ubuntu second, then reboot again from USB/DVD and install the boot-repair package02:59
mousesrun it02:59
mousesit'll one click fix the mess and you're good to go02:59
qwebirc45147It's not the usb02:59
qwebirc45147It's the computer, laptop ran usb no problem02:59
mousesqwebirc45147: Dang it!03:00
mekhamiwhat about the gpu/video driver issue?03:00
mekhamii just need a stable driver i don't need the bleedign edge03:00
mekhamii don't do gpu stuff on the linux boot03:00
mousesqwebirc45147: Not familiar with your hardware, but does the USB drive have a blinky light on it?  When it fails boot, does it even blink a few times like it's trying?03:00
qwebirc45147Yeah it blinks and mekhami have you tried youtube? I can help you with some research as I'll probably have to do that after I install ubuntu lol.03:01
qwebirc45147Avid gamer over here, would hate it if the OS hinders the gaming :'(03:02
mekhamitoo much garbage to sift through on youtube03:02
mekhaminot worth the time03:02
mousesqwebirc45147: some secure boot thing maybe?03:03
mousesIt's a microsoft system so I'd expect them to make this very hard03:03
mekhamimouses: i'll try this again (last time it didn't quite work for me for whatever reason, i think i just never got bios setup right) but the gpu issue is as critical or more. it worked fine on my old desktop but this new card didn't seem to want to catch on03:03
qwebirc45147sudo apt-get update sudo apt-get install mesa-utils < this should help mekhami03:04
mousesmekhami: new one is pretty bleeding edge, you might have to fight with it for a bit03:04
mekhamiidk what i'm fighting with when i get there, i don't know anything about drivers.03:04
qwebirc45147hmm. I'll look into the BIOS to see if there's a secure boot option03:04
qwebirc45147that I need to disable03:05
qwebirc45147Appreciate the help03:05
mekhamiokay i'm running the 18.04 installer from my usb03:09
mekhamii'm looking at the partition manager thing and i can't tell what i'm supposed to be doing here03:10
mekhamiit's giving me the options for erasing ubuntu 18.04.2 and reinstall. install 18.04 alongside 18.04, and erase disk and install ubuntu (which obviously i don't want to do cause i have win10 on this disk)03:11
mekhamiand then something else, which shows the partitions03:11
mekhamiwhich has /dev/sda1-7, free space of 003:11
mekhami/dev/sda4 is ntfs and has my win10 boot on it i assume03:11
mekhami/dev/sda7 is ext4 and is 40gb size, 7.5gb used which i don't know if that might be my USB drive?03:12
mekhamiif not, i still have 18.04.2 installed i guess03:12
mekhamianyone able to point me in the right direction?03:16
dhmb1yoyoyo03:19
mekhamihm, it shows sda6 and sda7 as linux filesystem types03:19
mekhamican i just delete those partitions while in this usb bootloader03:23
mekhamiand start 'fresh'03:23
mekhamiwhen creating a new partition for an ubuntu install03:29
mekhamiwhat's the mount point supposed to be?03:29
mekhamiand how important is it to have swap space03:31
mekhamii shoudl have tackled this during the day when people were online lol.03:34
k_sze[work]Is there a good app on Ubuntu to open multiple jpgs as thought they were one book?03:39
qwebirc45147lol yeah mekhami probably03:40
k_sze[work]And would easily allow me to print said jpgs 2-sided (on printers that support 2-sided printing)?03:40
qwebirc45147but I mean it's a pretty shitty problem03:40
cgihow do i check if DMAR is enabled in the ubuntu kernel? if it is not, how do i enable it?03:44
mekhamiwow everything worked out of the box this time04:02
mekhamii must have been too tired last time i tried this04:02
Ben_XDoes anyone know which windows would be best to install on VirtualBox? I'm using Ubuntu 18.04 as my main OS but I can not play Diablo 2 on battle.net without using Windows in VirtualBox04:10
Ben_XI think Windows 10 is too big04:10
Ben_XSo maybe windows 7?04:10
delthello everyone04:11
deltjust wondering, why is gimp in the ubuntu repos still 2.8? 2.10 has been out for a while already....04:11
the2048delt that's the same case with Teeworlds. The latest version has been out for a while yet we're still on an older one04:21
deltthe2048: why? is there some bug(s) in the new versions of those programs?04:22
deltthat prevent them being usable?04:22
the2048I think it's that the maintainers of the repository haven't gotten around to packaging them in the right format04:22
the2048Because I can confirm latest Teeworlds is stable on Windows x64 and Ubuntu x3204:23
krytarik!info gimp cosmic04:24
ubottugimp (source: gimp): GNU Image Manipulation Program. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.10.6-3 (cosmic), package size 4060 kB, installed size 18293 kB04:24
krytarik!latest04:24
ubottuPackages in Ubuntu may not be the latest. Ubuntu aims for stability, so "latest" may not be a good idea. Post-release updates are only considered if they are fixes for security vulnerabilities, high impact bug fixes, or unintrusive bug fixes with substantial benefit. See also !backports, !sru, and !ppa.04:24
the2048That's also why04:25
the2048I had forgotten about that being a thing tho so04:25
the2048!info teeworlds04:26
ubottuteeworlds (source: teeworlds): online multi-player platform 2D shooter. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.6.4+dfsg-1 (bionic), package size 348 kB, installed size 933 kB04:26
d0tsun7can someone help me understand the primary difference between: /dev/mapper/ubuntu--vg-root and /dev/ubuntu-vg/root04:27
d0tsun7within LVM204:27
d0tsun7when working with LVM i'm not sure if they are entirely interchangable or not.04:27
hllohi04:39
hllook so04:40
Svetadelt: you can install gimp 2.10 using an unofficial package called the 'ppa'04:57
Svetadelt: https://launchpad.net/~otto-kesselgulasch/+archive/ubuntu/gimp04:59
Svetadelt: they recommend an external site for reporting bugs04:59
Svetadelt: but you can ignore it and just login to view contact details ( https://launchpad.net/~otto-kesselgulasch ) instead04:59
mekhamii installed zsh and ran chsh -s $(which zsh) and it's not actually switching my login shell05:06
mekhamiwhen i open a new terminal it's still /bin/bash05:06
mekhamiand $echo SHELL shows /bin/bash05:06
mekhamibut chsh shows my login shell as zsh05:06
mekhamiconfused05:06
mekhamiah worked on reboot. "login" shell afterall05:10
=== MaoMaoChong is now known as yaoxu
unsphello06:54
unsp_hello06:55
unsp__hello06:55
unsp__,06:55
unsp__呵呵06:55
unsp__有人吗06:55
unspJia Suwen is a dog.06:55
unsp__胡亚博06:55
unsp__是傻的06:55
unsp_I'm chinese06:55
unsp_who are you06:56
unsp__够的06:56
unsp_it's a test06:56
unsp你们够了06:56
unsp__sd06:56
unsp_sorry06:56
unspfuck06:56
unsp_it's a test06:56
unsp__51106:56
unspfuck you06:56
unsp__垃圾06:56
unsp_511 wangwenkai06:56
unsp__51106:57
unsp_it's a test06:57
ubuntu-matesd07:35
ubuntu-mates07:35
ubuntu-mateds07:35
ubuntu-mated07:35
ubuntu-matesd07:35
ubuntu-matesd07:35
pragomernautilus-actions seems to be obsolete in ubuntu 18.04. Is there a replacement package for it??07:52
guivercpragomer, i don't use gnome/nautilus, and yeah its there for 14.04 & 16.04 (even 19.04 for soem reason) but not 18.xx. if you click properties for a type of file, then open-with tab may provide some of what you want..07:56
hommahello08:00
guivercHi homma, if you have a Ubuntu Support question, please just ask it (try & keep to a single line if possible, and be patient waiting for answer, someone will answer if & when they can)08:01
hommahello08:02
hommatoday is Monday08:02
lotuspsychjehomma: please dont repeat, we saw you the first time08:02
hommaok08:03
=== yannis is now known as Guest62060
=== anders is now known as Guest16249
baakohi guys am running 18.04 and I have a few snap apps install. I have notice everything, that when I shutdown my laptop and come back again and trying to open any of the snap app. I get this message snap-confine has elevated permissions and is not confined but should be. Refusing to continue to avoid permission escalation attacks08:56
baakoand I have to install them ALL over again. How to permantly fix this08:57
lotuspsychjebaako: you can check permissions of the snap in software center08:57
xrandr_macHi, if I use the network installer iso, will I be able to install Ubuntu Server?08:57
baakolotuspsychje: where? snap apps are not in software centre only apt08:59
ducassebaako: server is just a pre-defined set of packages09:00
blackflowI believe that's what the question is here. does the netinstall ISO allow choice of no GUI09:01
lotuspsychjebaako: not correct, snap packages does also show in software center09:01
blackflowalso, snaps are NOT installed by apt09:01
xrandr_macblackflow, yes, that's the question.09:03
blackflowxrandr_mac: I don't know sorry, I use only debootstrap to install Ubuntu due to ZFS root09:05
d0tsun7hey -- i've got an LVM2 question if anyone's up09:06
Tankburn1I am having some trouble trying to configure my sd card to mount during startup using fstab09:06
blackflowxrandr_mac: try it? worst case you spent 30 minutes and a few hundred MB of download :)09:07
xrandr_macyep09:07
xrandr_macThat's what I'm doing09:07
blackflowxrandr_mac: but seeing there's no separate netinst for desktop or server, my guess is that it allows that choice. debian's installer does, and I think that's the same one.09:07
Tankburn1the mount point column... does that need to be the /dev location of the actual directory you want to assign for the filesysytem09:08
Tankburn1mount point field*09:08
blackflowxrandr_mac: let us know, for future reference ;)09:08
blackflowTankburn1: first field is the SD device, the second field is the directory you mount the device to.  stuff under /dev are devices09:09
blackflowTankburn1: also the fields are explained in detail in teh fstab(5) manpage09:09
=== sinner is now known as Guest20903
blackflow!ask | d0tsun709:10
ubottud0tsun7: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience09:10
nullbyte_i have disable snap i ubuntu how can i reanble it09:10
nullbyte_exactly with gnome09:11
d0tsun7i'm trying to understand the difference between /dev/ubuntu-vg/root and /dev/mapper/ubuntu--vg-root and if they can essentially be interchangable when referencing logical volume names within the various commands to configure LVM09:12
Tankburn1I have read through the man page in detail, but when I set the mount point, /media/<user>/Home2 it tells me the mount point does not exist09:12
Tankburn1I thought it was supposed to create it09:12
blackflowd0tsun7: they should be the same thing. the latter is the "origin", what the device mapper (dm) layer in the kernel actually produces. The former is shortcut by LVM in the form of /dev/<volume group>/<logical volume>09:12
blackflowTankburn1: yes, the directory must first exist09:13
d0tsun7so they're symlinked, is that the proper way to say that in a way?09:14
d0tsun7with some % of correctness09:15
nullbyte_?09:15
blackflowd0tsun7: I don't remember OTOH, but if running `file /dev/ubuntu-vg/root` says symbolic link, then it is, yeah.09:15
d0tsun7thanks for the dm reference, i didn't know it stood for device map09:16
d0tsun7for file /dev/ubuntu-vg/root i get "/dev/ubuntu-vg/root: symbolic link to ../dm-1"09:16
nullbyte_blackflow: you?09:16
blackflowd0tsun7: ah yes, the /dev/mapper/... one will be  symlink too iirc, to the actual /dev/dm-X  device09:18
Tankburn1thanks blackflow, got it working.09:18
d0tsun7looks like /dev/mapper/ubuntu--vg-root is also symlinked to /dev/dm109:18
xrandr_macIt does09:18
Tankburn1now to test if it mounts during startup :) brb09:18
xrandr_macblackflow, it does allow you to select what you want to install09:18
d0tsun7ok so then that solves that. if i reference an LV by either name, it will return the same value09:19
d0tsun7excellent, ty09:19
d0tsun7i'm working with adjusting an LVM and every error requires a 40 minute parclone restore on a 1TB m.2, restoring from a 5400RPM HDD though, so not quite as fast.09:20
blackflowxrandr_mac: awesome, thanks.09:21
d0tsun7so now i'm figuring i should just resize my LV and give a 10G space on a 993G partition, so i have room in my VG to add an additional LV that I can use as a snapshot LV09:21
blackflownullbyte_: how did you "disable" snaps?09:22
james_brownim having trouble starting a service on ubuntu.  I use "sudo service name start" and nothing happens.  this is the server log https://pastebin.com/i54SPirP   any idea what any of it means?09:23
baakolotuspsychje: none of my shown on software center09:24
blackflowd0tsun7: if you need snapshots, yeah. just remember the "snapshot" lv does not need to be the full size of the partition you want to snapshot. only to hold differences accrued while you hold the snapshot for the purposes of backup I suppose. there's hardly any other reason to use them, other than have an atomic view for rsync09:24
baakoblackflow: is right also lotuspsychje because its not apt09:24
blackflowjames_brown: no idea, that's something very specific to that program. you can also check in the journal to see what systemd noted about it.    journalctl -eu <service name>.service09:26
d0tsun7backflow yeah, i was figuring it may be faster for me to troubleshoot just by jumping onto my filesystem from an external TTY and lvconverting my LV back to its orignal state09:26
d0tsun7on a 993G partition, I figured 10G would be more than enough to make some LVM changes. a lot extra actually i guess09:27
james_brownblackflow: what does  Failed with result 'start-limit-hit mean?09:27
=== phocking_ is now known as phocking
blackflowjames_brown: it means the process keeps crashing, systemd keeps restarting it and reaches the limit of number of restarts it should attempt before it logs total failure.09:28
blackflowjames_brown: so yeah, you should investigate why teh process is failing09:29
d0tsun7thanks backflow09:29
blackflowd0tsun7: yw09:30
james_brownblackflow: any lead on what i should investigate?09:30
blackflowjames_brown: the service itself. its logs. consult its documentation, ask in appropriate support channels for that program. what is it, anyway?09:30
james_brownblackflow: it is a product that provides SOC automation services09:32
james_brownblackflow: and i must fix the issue on my own09:32
blackflowjames_brown: good luck then. you could also pop in the #go-nuts to ask about Go lang specific issues here.09:33
blackflow*there09:33
d0tsun7if i create a PV on top of a LUKS1 partition, in order for that to work properly will i need to make an entry to just /etc/crypttab or both /etc/crypttab and /etc/fstab09:35
d0tsun7to add that PV to my existing /dev/mapper/ubuntu--vg-root VG ubuntu-vg09:35
blackflowd0tsun7: fstab is for mounting. so yeah if you want something mounted off of that pv on boot.09:35
blackflowd0tsun7: but not the PV directly in fstab09:36
d0tsun7ok cool. i need to go through the crypttab fstab man pages better.09:39
d0tsun7thanks for your help tonight. off to do some more tinkering.09:39
blackflowd0tsun7: crypttab is used by initramfs (And systemd) to know which containers should be unlocked on boot. fstab is for mountpoints. the two are related here only if you want to _mount_ a LV that's part of a VG that's consisted of the PV you LUKS'd09:40
d0tsun7yes, absolutely is.09:41
d0tsun7so i will needing to be implenting both entries then09:41
Dimitrishello there, any ubuntu member active to ask something ?09:41
Dimitristhanks :)09:41
blackflow!ask | Dimitris09:41
ubottuDimitris: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience09:41
james_brownblackflow: any idea what "error: cannot open index, metadata missing" means?09:41
blackflowjames_brown: nope, that's very much specific to that program.09:41
blackflowthat entire log you pasted there is. ther is no way for me to know what any bit of it means, since I never saw or used that program. Also please note that software not packaged in Ubuntu is not really supported here in #ubuntu.09:42
blackflowplease consult the developers of that software, or go-lang support channels in general.09:42
james_brownblackflow: ok thank you09:43
=== marco_ is now known as Marcuss
necrophcodrHi folks! I've got an old Ubuntu 14.04 VM around, and when I check the I/O scheduler it simply says "none". How can I get I/O scheduling enabled and switch to something like cfq?10:35
necrophcodrThe output of `cat /sys/block/vda/queue/scheduler` is simply "none"10:36
guivercnecrophcodr, i can't help, best I can provide is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/Reference/IOSchedulers  (see Selecting I/O Schedulers)10:42
necrophcodrguiverc, unfortunately there are no I/O schedulers to chose from, that's the issue I'm trying to resolve10:47
lotuspsychjenecrophcodr: also keep in mind 14.04 will be EOL very soon, perhaps think of upgrade/clean install?10:48
necrophcodrlotuspsychje, clean install is not an option, and i'd like to upgrade but first I need this resolved so the I/O performance is usable for the upgrade process10:52
e4xitwhats the best way to troubleshoot random system failures on an Ubuntu machine? I have recently installed a UPS to eliminate power fluctuations but I still see regular crashes (to powered off state) with zero info of anything about to break the system in any logs I am checking...10:52
guiverce4xit, if it shuts down without reason, I'd look at hardware first (ie. temperature too high, check bios/system logs of temperature warnings - OS/Ubuntu isn't told that hardware is going down if threshold reached; it's just power-off to reduce warranty claims)10:55
guivercps: I used temperature as example; it's one of a number that can show in hardware logs10:56
e4xitguiverc: ok thanks. I will see if I can setup a cronjob to monitor temps every 5 mins then in case that turns something up...10:56
hommaElitebook 745G5  kernel panic10:58
Andika1337hi all11:01
lotuspsychje!rootirc | Andika1337 homma11:02
ubottuAndika1337 homma: It's not technically our business, but we'd like to tell you that IRC'ing as root is a Very Bad Idea (tm). After all, doing anything as root when root is not needed is bad, and especially bad with software that connects to the Internet.11:02
Andika1337Do you want to tell a good hacker channel?11:02
Andika1337please11:03
k_sze[mobile]Ugh, crap11:04
k_sze[mobile]Even REISUB restarting my desktop.11:04
k_sze[mobile]Magic SysKey is *not* disabled (I’ve used it just las week on this machine).11:05
Myrmexhello Lorenzettis11:10
Myrmexsomeone is smoking >.<11:11
Myrmexhallo frankf11:12
lotuspsychjeMyrmex: do you have an ubuntu question?11:13
MyrmexNah, just messing around11:13
lotuspsychjeMyrmex: mess somewhere else please11:13
d0tsun7ok11:17
d0tsun7i just got my new LUKS formatted PV added to my VG and extended my root ubuntu--vg-root LV11:17
d0tsun7within /etc/fstab, should the mount point be / or do i need to give it it's own directory11:18
Myrmexlol11:18
=== mwsb1 is now known as mwsb
d0tsun7i could just see that extending my root LV that potentially it could in some way symlink to / but for now, i'm going to give it a /mnt/dir11:24
d0tsun7we'll see as i boot. wish me luck.11:24
d0tsun7exit11:24
BluesKajHi folks11:25
monojamoonhey guys ... run into a problem! Downloaded a file via qbittorrent on a location that wasn't mounted and deleted the file from the client (didn't click on delete from disk). Now I cannot find the file anywhere. Any suggestions?11:32
monojamoon*ran into a problem11:32
monojamoonThe download location was saved in history of previously used download locations.11:33
BluesKajmonojamoon, did you use the qbittorrent default dir/folder? .Usually it's /home/user/Downloads11:35
uboneif destination wasn't mounted you didn't download it11:35
monojamoonBluesKaj, nope. I didn't use that location. I changed it to a location that wasn't mounted. Actually, have a dual boot setup. Ubuntu and Windows 10. I use the space allocated to Windows 10 to store invaluable/replaceable files11:37
monojamoonI chose Downloads folder in the Windows allocated storage space to store the file11:38
monojamoonUnfortunately, I didn't mount it beforehand.11:38
monojamoonHas happened to me once before. I remember by clicking on open destination folderin such a case had led me to a tmp folder11:39
monojamoonnow i can no longer find that temp folder11:39
monojamoonhttps://askubuntu.com/questions/144698/find-a-file-by-name-using-command-line11:39
monojamoonUsed this try and find it. Nowhere on my filesystem11:40
monojamoons/this/this to11:40
BluesKajmonojamoon, best to download files to the OS you're using, then transfer them afterwards if needed11:40
monojamoonYeah. I'll keep that in mind to prevent future mishaps. :)11:40
monojamoonFOUND IT!11:43
monojamoonit downloaded in the /tmp folder11:44
monojamoonsudo find / -type f -name "*.mp4"11:45
ubuntu-mateclear11:45
ubuntu-matevpn11:46
lotuspsychjemonojamoon: please dont use this channel to describe every step you do11:46
monojamoonok11:47
=== MaoMaoChong is now known as yaoxu
=== conjo is now known as justaddcoffee
KeithWeissharwhat's the official release date for ubuntu 19.04?11:52
tarzeauKeithWeisshar: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DiscoDingo/ReleaseSchedule11:53
KeithWeissharwill it come with linux 5.0?11:54
jemaduxhello ..any good whatapp web application for linux ?11:55
tarzeau# apt-cache search ^linux-image-511:55
tarzeaulinux-image-5.0.0-7-generic - Signed kernel image generic11:55
tarzeaulooks like it11:55
lotuspsychjeKeithWeisshar: you can join #ubuntu+1 for 19.04 support & questions11:55
tarzeaujemadux: as long as there's no good web browser for linux. i'd say: no11:55
Mr_Cyclopsjemadux, try https://web.whatsapp.com its browser based, no app required11:55
lotuspsychjejemadux: there's a whatsdesk snap if you like too11:56
Mr_Cyclopslotuspsychje, good to know :)11:57
lotuspsychjeMr_Cyclops: didnt test myself though :p11:57
Mr_Cyclopslotuspsychje, qq, how can I check all snaps available? I am on Ubuntu 18.04.211:57
Mr_Cyclops:P I will11:57
lotuspsychjeMr_Cyclops: best is to search on keyword: snap find keyword11:57
Mr_Cyclopswhat if I wanted to see all that snap provides?11:58
Mr_CyclopsI tried sudo snap find, but doesn't look like it lists all11:58
lotuspsychjeMr_Cyclops: i dont think there's a command for full list, there was once a command for the latest ones11:58
Mr_Cyclopsduh, hmmmm ...11:59
lotuspsychjeMr_Cyclops: you can check the snap store if you like, or software centre11:59
Mr_Cyclopslotuspsychje, yeah that was my last resort too :)12:00
lotuspsychjeMr_Cyclops: there's also commands for category snap search12:00
jemaduxwaiting when snap will use the default cursors ...12:01
=== Sveta_ is now known as Sveta
Mr_Cyclopslotuspsychje, just installed and used whatsdesk, pretty awesome!12:02
Mr_Cyclopslotuspsychje, which DE do you use?12:05
Mr_Cyclopsjust curious12:05
lotuspsychjeMr_Cyclops: lets discuss it in #ubuntu-discuss12:05
Mr_Cyclopsaha so many forks, sure, I was wondering if there was a room for such :) tx again12:05
Rojolahi12:11
RojolaI think I caught a virus!12:11
Rojolasince about 2 weeks, it happens often, that I see a "Loading..." text when I open a website12:12
RojolaIt does not matter which website - it happens randomly12:12
RojolaI just investigated and opened the "Inspector" in google chrome12:12
RojolaHere is a screenshot12:13
Rojolahttps://filebin.net/mhoaedkk7zta7e2n/help_I_think_I_caught_a_virus.png?t=zmxs2upv12:13
RojolaTo me, it looks like somebody is using my computer for mining!12:13
RojolaI did not think this could happen on Linux12:14
BluesKajRojola, have you tried firefox to compare?12:14
Rojolayes12:15
Rojolait does not happen in firefox12:15
RojolaI also googled - there _is_ a coinhive trojan12:15
Rojolabut everything I've found so far concerns MS Windows12:16
Rojolahttps://www.google.com/search?q=coinhive+trojan+ubuntu+chrome12:16
pkunkHow do I stop the bionic ssh client from spamming ssh servers by trying to authenticate with all the ssh keys stored under ~/.ssh & failing with "Too many authentication failures"12:16
BluesKajRojola, https://www.privacytools.io/12:17
Rojolathank you BluesKaj12:18
fwef64Hi, recently I bought thinkpad thunderbolt3 dock and now sometimes my screen goes black for no reason, then comes back on this repeats couple of times. So far I wasn't able to figure out what triggers it. Anyone experienced this?12:32
=== hibbie1 is now known as hibbie
m1dnight_Hey guys. I'm using a logitech g9 with ubuntu 18.04. The mouse has some sort of buttons to chang eprofiles. For some reason the mouse freezes every couple of minutes, and then my profiles are reset.12:49
m1dnight_I don't mind that, just that the default profile is too fast.12:49
m1dnight_Does anyone have experience with this kind ot hing?12:49
begonia@search Susan Orlean12:58
begoniaquit12:58
=== as4h3l_ is now known as as4h3l
CyberGhost78m1dnight you should be able to change that in your mouse settings13:03
memphistohi. i'm connecting to samba server with dolphin but it keeps asking for password which i'm typing correctly. smbclient has no problem connecting13:08
m1dnight_hrm, been eyeballing dmesg and it seems the device just disconnects :/13:10
=== med is now known as med_
Tankburnexit13:53
ecvhi14:00
ecv18.04. It doesn't look like I have a /swapfile . Is this the default now? Is there an option during installation to use a partition instead that I may have inadvertently chosen instead?14:01
=== _KaszpiR__ is now known as _KaszpiR_
ecvI want to increase swap space following this https://bogdancornianu.com/change-swap-size-in-ubuntu/ but I have no /swapfile Can I dump the old partition way first and then switch to using swapfile ? Resizing partitions is always more scary and harder than a simple file, so I'd like to upgrade to swapfile14:04
jeremy31ecv, in terminal check> swapon -s14:04
leftyfbecv: how much memory does your system have?14:04
ecvit says /dev/sdb514:05
ecv12GB and currently another 12GB. Need more for Blender since I'm working in a rather detailed and big scene14:05
leftyfbecv: swap isn't going to help you14:06
ecv(another 12GB for swap, I meant)14:06
leftyfbecv: Not to mention, if you ever fill up 12G of swap, you're doing something horribly wrong14:06
ecvwhen I'm making a particle system into real geometry it can barely load the scene anymore, so I'd say it could help14:07
jeremy31ecv what is swapiness set to?14:07
ecvI have a piece of land with 500k particles which are objects of around 300 verts each for a grass field. I don't think it's wrong, it's just what it needs to be to look good enough, other than using normal maps or displacement maps trickery which just doesn't cut it for me. I understand your wrong assumption tho. But back to the point and under the14:09
ecv assumption that I truly need to increase the swap for whatever reason, how to go about that?14:09
jeremy31ecv a decent article about swap and swapiness https://kx.cloudingenium.com/linux/ubuntu/configure-swappiness-ubuntu/14:13
ecvthank you jeremy3114:14
leftyfbI'm thinking if they're going to do that type of work, swap isn't the solution.14:17
jeremy31I think they need to lower the use of swap if they have sufficient RAM14:19
leftyfbI was suggesting adding RAM. If they're swapping with 12G of physical memory due to the type of work they're doing, time to add memory.14:20
NoImNotNineVoltthat's a common misconception.14:21
NoImNotNineVolti was talking to cdown (works on mm) last week and he kinda changed my mind regarding swap14:21
NoImNotNineVoltif you're seeing thrashing, then yea, you don't have enough physical memory for what you're trying to do. but some use of swap isn't a bad thing.14:22
Kon-Will there be problems if gnome-keyring and kwallet are installed side by side?14:25
pragomerhow can I create a new textfile from nautilus when nautilus-actions does not exist anymore?14:30
leftyfbpragomer: https://itsfoss.com/add-new-document-option/ # first result on google for "Ubuntu 18.04 new document"14:32
pragomersorry, didnt want to appear lazy.. in the past I had some issues with this so thats why I asked here.14:37
pragomerthanks very much, gonna have a look at this link14:37
pragomermm, thats strange. both ways dont work for me. I tried the english version "templates" and also my localized version (german), what is "Vorlagen"14:40
pragomeris a reboot required?14:40
ubonelauch a text editor14:41
YounderWhere would I go to find a group working on 5G development?14:48
lotuspsychje!alis | Younder14:49
ubottuYounder: Alis is an IRC service to help you find channels. For help on using it, see "/msg Alis help list" or ask in #freenode. Example usage: "/msg Alis list http"14:49
emachineshola hijos de puta14:57
leftyfb!es | emachines14:58
ubottuemachines: En la mayoría de los canales de Ubuntu, se habla sólo en inglés. Si busca ayuda en español entre al canal #ubuntu-es; escriba " /join #ubuntu-es " (sin comillas) y presione intro.14:58
destevezbhello14:58
emachineshola14:58
emachineshello14:58
destevezbhola14:58
destevezbe14:58
emachineswhat are you14:58
destevezbi am terminator14:58
emachinesque estjajjajajajja yeah bro14:58
leftyfbdestevezb: This is a support channel.14:58
emachines_fabricio lopez es puto14:58
destevezbarriba españa supongo14:58
emachinesyou from is usa14:58
emachineshola14:59
emachineshola14:59
destevezbhola supongo14:59
emachinesesta computadora es una mierda14:59
destevezbmira arriba que vees14:59
emachinestiene este chat de mierdaç14:59
leftyfbemachines: emachines_: destevezb: This is a support channel. Please /part14:59
emachinesnada14:59
leftyfb!op emachines destevezb emachines_14:59
ubottuleftyfb: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)14:59
leftyfb!op | emachines destevezb emachines_14:59
ubottuemachines destevezb emachines_: Help! Channel emergency! (ONLY use this trigger in emergencies) - Pici, Myrtti, jrib, Amaranth, tonyyarusso, Nalioth, lamont, CarlK, elky, mneptok, Tm_T, jpds, ikonia, Flannel, genii, wgrant, stdin, h00k, IdleOne, Jordan_U, popey, Corey, ocean, cprofitt, djones, Madpilot, gnomefreak, lhavelund, phunyguy, bazhang, chu, dax14:59
destevezbpues muy mal deberias de haber visto a ESPAÑA14:59
emachineswhat14:59
emachines_emachines se desconecto?14:59
=== Wryhder is now known as Lucas_Gray
emachinesnde tembo rova mbeju14:59
emachinespendejo14:59
emachinesdee mierda15:00
emachineschupamela15:00
destevezbtoxic15:00
emachinesalicia15:00
tonyyarusso!es15:00
ubottuEn la mayoría de los canales de Ubuntu, se habla sólo en inglés. Si busca ayuda en español entre al canal #ubuntu-es; escriba " /join #ubuntu-es " (sin comillas) y presione intro.15:00
destevezbtu juegas al lol y se te nota15:00
emachines_maa la housea15:00
destevezbthx he was being toxic with my spañita15:00
destevezb!es15:01
ubottuEn la mayoría de los canales de Ubuntu, se habla sólo en inglés. Si busca ayuda en español entre al canal #ubuntu-es; escriba " /join #ubuntu-es " (sin comillas) y presione intro.15:01
leftyfbdestevezb: Do you have a support question?15:01
destevezbola15:01
=== hibbie1 is now known as hibbie
Rojolare15:04
espereguanyone can tell me how to show the offset of timesynchronisation? I want to see it in ms15:05
RojolaI was here before, concerning a trojan infection (coinhive)15:05
Rojolanow I have even worse news:15:05
Rojolamy entire system seems to be effected!15:05
leftyfbRojola: reinstall from scratch and restore your files from backup15:05
RojolaChrome, Firefox, Opera15:05
Rojolaleftyfb, this is Linux!  Why would I get a trojan??15:06
RojolaI've never had any such issues15:06
lordcirthRojola, Linux does not protect from user error.15:06
Rojolaif this is system-wide, I wonder how this could happen in the first place15:06
leftyfbRojola: doing something reall stupid? Don't know. Pretty irrelevant. Reinstall and restore.15:06
lordcirthIf you can install software, you can install malicious software.15:06
Rojolalordcirth, what could I have done wrong?  My system is always up to date,  and I only use trusted repos15:06
leftyfbRojola: Your issue is beyond the scope of this support channel. Reinstall and restore from backup.15:07
Rojolaok15:07
uboneRojola, use ublock origin15:09
NoImNotNineVolt^15:09
uboneyou could also use firejail15:10
leftyfbubone: that's not even close to an adequate solution. But still beyond the scope of this channel15:11
uboneit is very close, he visited a page with a miner15:11
Rojolaubone, I already tried blocking it with an add-on15:12
Rojolaubone, https://filebin.net/mhoaedkk7zta7e2n/help_I_think_I_caught_a_virus.png?t=dd3qmivj15:13
Rojolathis is what I get very often (but now always)15:13
RojolaIt makes no difference which website I open15:13
Rojolaall my browsers are effected15:13
leftyfbRojola: reinstall and restore15:14
Rojolathis is not windows...15:14
leftyfbRojola: forensics discussion can be had in #ubuntu-offtopic15:14
Rojolasetting up such a system takes a lot of time15:14
lotuspsychjeRojola: this isnt a complain channel, focus on ubuntu support questions15:14
uboneRojola, look up hosts lists, they inlude that and redirect it to 000015:14
NoImNotNineVolto_O15:14
Rojolaubone, good idea - brb15:15
NoImNotNineVoltit takes me seconds to deploy new ubuntu boxes :P15:15
tomreynesperegu: good question, i woudn't know how to do this with systemd-timesyncd either.15:15
lordcirthRojola, It doesn't take me very long to set up Ubuntu. Perhaps we can talk about what takes you a long time on #ubuntu-discuss15:15
Rojolaubone, the hosts file is OK15:15
Rojolalordcirth, it's just a lot of customization...15:15
Rojolawith a very slow internet connection15:16
ubonehe doesn't need to reinstall that's stupid sorry but it is15:16
lordcirthubone, if you have malware, you reinstall. End of story.15:16
uboneworst case he has to make a new user and move his files15:16
ubonewrong15:16
RojolaAlone downloading trinity-desktop takes 1 day here with my internet15:16
tomreynesperegu: there is the timedatectl command, but it doesn't disclose this information, nor do there seem to be settings in /etc/systemd/timesyncd.conf which would make this more verbose.15:16
ubone if he didn't run his browsers as root, which he didn't, that supposed malware would be limited to his /home/15:17
lordcirthRojola, do you have a second computer? You should use apt-cacher-ng15:17
leftyfbubone: you are more wrong than you think. And a bit rude as well. Any compromised system needs to immediately be removed from all activity and reinstalled. Regardless of OS.15:17
lotuspsychjeubone: feel free to discuss in #ubuntu-discuss15:17
Rojolaubone, good idea with the new user.... I am now going to try setting up a new user and running chrome as the new user15:17
Rojolalordcirth, only 1 computer, no apt-cacher-ng15:17
uboneleftyfb, i just explained as plain as i can, you on the other hand have send nothing but fud15:18
lordcirthubone, have you never heard of privilege escalation? Malware does it all the time.15:19
uboneim not sure but i think chromium has some sandboxing even without firejail so15:19
leftyfbRojola: If you did not write the malware you have or know exactly what it and ever possible variant does to your system you have no way of knowing what parts of your system have been compromised and what multiple things it is doing, including having back doors into your system.15:19
lotuspsychje__!discuss15:19
ubottuWant to talk about Ubuntu, but don't have a support question? /join #ubuntu-discuss for non-support Ubuntu discussion, or try #ubuntu-offtopic for general chat. Thanks!15:19
Rojolaouch... the browser in the new user's account acts the same15:19
RojolaLoading...15:19
leftyfbRojola: Reinstall and restore. End of discussion.15:20
Rojolaleftyfb, I know what malware it is15:20
ubonelordcirth, are you saying coinhive is making use of intel vulnerabilities? im not sure if it's even malware, isn't it a group miner15:20
Rojolacoinhive15:20
lotuspsychje__Rojola: please dont describe every step you doing in this channel15:20
Rojolathis channel was always so nice... what happened?15:20
leftyfbRojola: and you know exactly what every variant does?15:20
lordcirthRojola, it is still nice.15:20
lordcirthRojola, once you've got your clean system setup, consider copying your apt cache to an external drive. This will speed up reinstalls if you have to do it again.15:21
RojolaThank you ubone !15:21
esperegutomreyn: I saw that ntp suppose to be more precise so I switched to that instead15:21
leftyfbRojola: the point is, don't mess with compromised systems. Just get reinstalled and restore from backup15:21
RojolaAlso thank you to everyone else!15:21
Rojolalordcirth, may I please ask for a name of the technique or a link?15:21
lordcirthRojola, it's just a bunch of files in /var/cache/apt. Copy that somewhere external every so often, and you can copy it back later.15:22
lordcirthThough perhaps there's a better way.15:22
tomreynesperegu: i'd personally prefer chrony if i had to replace systemd's, newer code, less legacy issues.15:25
=== lotuspsychje__ is now known as lotuspsychje
Rojolathank you lordcirth15:30
lordcirthnp15:30
Rojolalordcirth, how often does this directory get emtied?15:30
Rojolado I have to back it up daily?15:30
lordcirthRojola, mostly when you run 'apt clean' or 'autoclean'. I'm not sure how often it gets automatically cleaned.15:30
lordcirthAlternatively, you could use apt-cacher-ng at localhost? It's a bit odd but I think it would work.15:31
esperegutomreyn: will try to set that up and use that then. thx15:31
SeTunTunhello. Is there any way to know an usb device path? I mean /dev/....15:36
RojolaThank you very much, lordcirth15:37
tomreynRojola: there are a couple website which suggest that you may be running a mikrotik router which got infected. if you run one, be sure to configure nameservers directly on ubuntu (you can use 9.9.9.9 for example) and examine the router, too, to prevent re-infection.15:37
leftyfbtomreyn: if that's the case, then a good test would be testing with a live cd/usb or another device.15:40
tomreyni agree15:41
uboneSeTunTun, lsusb15:43
uboneno, df15:44
leftyfbSeTunTun: There is some combination of lsusb and shell scripting to follow device links to find out which /dev a usb device got assigned to15:44
leftyfbubone: df is only used for storage devices15:44
Spr1ngGuys when I do an install of Ubuntu 16.04 and select to have PostgreSQL installed, what is the username/password it creates for psql during that installation process?15:44
leftyfbubone: lsusb alone is not adequate to find the device name in /dev for a usb device15:45
SeTunTunubone, lsusb only lists the devices, not their paths15:45
=== highfiv3r[m] is now known as highfiv3r
uboneyes, i said df15:45
leftyfbubone: df is only used for storage devices15:46
uboneyes i see why you so uptight15:46
uboneyou could have answered him instead of lynching me15:46
leftyfbubone: I did15:47
SeTunTunleftyfb, is right. My usb device is a tv dongle15:47
leftyfbSeTunTun: I had something written some time ago to find the device name. Though it's probably just easier to look in dmesg as you connect the device.15:47
SeTunTunXD sorry i don't want to start a fight here haha15:47
ubonemaybe dmesg15:48
uboneand i don't see how you aswered him tbh15:50
CarlFKSeTunTun: I think the answer you are looking for: make a udev rule that fires on the hotplug event15:57
CarlFKSeTunTun: there isn't an "easy way" because that way would fail on all sorts of cases, like plug in a 2nd devcie,15:58
CarlFKor plug in the first device to a usb hub15:59
SeTunTunThanks guys, I will try later. I must leave15:59
leftyfbCarlFK: I used to have a script that would take the devices from lsusb and follow their directory structures and output all sorts of info on the devices including their name in /dev.. I can't seem to find it so I'll probably have to write it again at some point.16:00
ixio2hello all.. does anyone know if there is a way to change the default behaviour of "new" machines in MAAS? when unknown machines initially boot but not yet commissioned it literally captures nothing about them, I would at least like to know serial number, IP address etc so that I can better comission them16:00
leftyfbixio2: you want #maas16:00
ixio2thanks16:00
leftyfbixio2: it does capture info though. It captures BMC info.16:01
leftyfbixio2: The first boot is only to get an understanding of how to control power/boot. Nothing else. That's what the 2nd part is for.16:01
=== ahoneybun_ is now known as ahoneybun
=== highfiv3r is now known as highfiv3r[m]
=== SimonNL is now known as SimonNL_Afk
=== deathonater is now known as Smeef
sveinseAnyone here with experience using lvm in ubuntu as guests on Hyper-V? I'm wondering if it is a bad idea to use lvm for this. One one side it is great to have the flexibility of lvm, but I have a suspicion that it might have severe drawbacks. E.g. if a LV is comprised of many PVs, then in case of recovery, it is imperative that all PVs comes from the exact same point in time, right?16:33
MrSprokesveinse: Look here (link to Microsoft!) Best Practices for running Linux on Hyper-V    https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/windows-server/virtualization/hyper-v/best-practices-for-running-linux-on-hyper-v16:37
sveinseMrSproke: yeah, I'm aware of this. The question is about lvm which is a linux question and not a VM host question unfortunately16:39
sveinseAre there mechanisms in lvm PVs that ensure/check that they are in sync?16:40
sveinseOr is PVs just dumb block devices, and such if they aren't in sync = data corruption, possibly without detection16:40
MrSprokesveinse: one sec16:41
MrSprokesveinse: pv = block device, no logic here. Ontop of the pv comes the volume group, then the volumes16:42
sveinseright16:43
sveinseSo lvm is only safe to use if and only if snapshots of all PVs can be done atomically16:44
MrSprokesveinse: still checking. i'm using lvm in ubuntu hyperv guests - never had problems here. But you may have a point here.....16:45
pragmaticenigmaMrSproke, sveinse - Please understand this forum is for Ubuntu support, not recommendations and setups. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic or #ubuntu-discuss for discussion please16:45
sveinsepragmaticenigma: well, not to troll, but I just lost a ubuntu machine due to data corruption. I could open with "my ubuntu machine has crashed" :( How to safely run ubuntu in VMs is certainly within scope I hope.16:48
pragmaticenigmasveinse: To answer your initial question: You're the only one that can determine the risks versus benefits of running your system in that configuration. The best recommendation is to make sure you create regular backups, such that data loss from resizing and other disk volume structuring can be restored quickly.16:50
tomreynsveinse: if you've worked with RAID arrays, you'll be familiar with the concept that the more physical (an non mirrored) devices your RAID array depends on, the more risk it means to your data store don top of the array. this is similar with LVM. the more PVs your VG depends on, the more likely will you have data loss if any are lost.16:52
tomreynyou can setup VGs on just a single PV, or you can setup RAID arrays below PVs to reduce risk of data loss.16:53
tomreynSo LVM in VMs is not, by itself, good or bad. Like on physical systems (just with the added complexity that virtual storages which are to increase data security, must also be based on separate physical disks on the VM host/storage network), it depends on how you use it,16:58
sveinseJust to make sure the discussion doesn't digress into that: I'm not taking about backup nor about redundancy such as RAID. Both are Very important points of course, but not the issue/question at hand. I'm trying to figure out the use case model for lvm. Ot here, but is Ubuntu Server still use a "JBOD" setup with LVM? -- And perhaps the answer is in plain sight: Without any backing of redundancy/raid in16:58
sveinsethe block devices, there is no point of using LVM?16:58
lordcirthsveinse, LVM has 2 purposes - allowing you to stick different block devices together as a single pool of storage, and allowing easy allocation of new block devices within that pool, without worrying about where that free space is. Which of those features do you need?16:59
tomreyn(You can also create VGs with mirroring, where two PVs store the same VG data, but this is not commonly used.)17:01
sveinse(I can stop if you guys consider this OT) lordcirth: A little bit of both really. I did it because it then would be easy to add new PVs to expand the storage by just adding new PVs to the machine.17:01
lordcirthtomreyn, yeah, I don't see why I'd do that instead of mdraid17:02
lordcirthsveinse, in most hypervisors you can just expand the original block device, since it's virtual anyway, and then expand the partition + filesystem17:03
sveinselordcirth: if there is space on the back-end storage device which is block device is located. Otherwise you need to get a new block device to another SAN.17:05
sveinsebut yeah, point taken, this is a IT structure issue more than anything else17:05
asumoi am a total newbie and need some help with the ubuntu terminal shell17:06
lordcirthasumo, sure, what do you need?17:06
asumoi was trying to change my shell to zsh from bash and have run into a heap of issues17:06
asumomy shell use to be systems:~# and changed to systems:~$17:07
asumowhat is the difference between # and $, and i am having issues with supposed pam authentication when i tried to use chsh17:07
asumois there a way to do a reset to the ubuntu shell settings?17:08
EriC^^asumo: usually # means you're using as root17:08
EriC^^in bash17:08
asumonah, i was using my user17:08
fleabeardasumo, # indicates you're logged in as root, $ indicates you're logged in as a non-root user17:08
OerHeksEriC^^ +1 easy to spot17:08
asumoand still need to enter user pass for sudo17:08
EriC^^must be a zsh thing then17:08
asumoeric i suspect so17:09
qwebirc58390Hello everyone17:09
EriC^^hello17:10
asumofleabeard i am using ubuntu 16.04 as a regular user17:10
asumoalways have17:10
qwebirc58390I am new to Ubuntu and it is saying I don't have a Wifi driver installed17:10
asumoi need pass to use sudo17:10
qwebirc58390I'm traveling in a few days and would need to use Wifi17:10
qwebirc58390Can anybody screen mirror me and install the driver possibly? :)17:10
qwebirc58390I can return the favour in good conversation17:10
qwebirc58390With*17:10
lotuspsychjeqwebirc58390: pastebin us: sudo lshw -C network please17:10
Walexqwebirc58390: not all WiFi chipsets are straightforwardlyt supported17:10
qwebirc58390I don't know how to pastebin us:17:11
qwebirc58390Could you give me more elaborate instructions17:11
lordcirthasumo, I just installed zsh here, selecting '2' for default settings, and I have '%' for user and '#' for root17:11
asumoanyone here using ubuntu 16.0417:11
EriC^^qwebirc58390: you can do "sudo lshw -c network | nc termbin.com 9999"17:11
Walexqwebirc58390: 'sudo apt install pastebinit'17:11
qwebirc58390Where do I do that Eric?17:11
qwebirc58390In terminal?17:11
EriC^^qwebirc58390: in any terminal17:11
Walexqwebirc58390: "in the beginning there was the command line" :-)17:11
asumolordcirth i uninstalled zsh and set the shell to bash17:11
asumousing usermod17:12
asumoi am still getting the $ instead of #17:12
qwebirc58390@walex hahaa17:12
asumoive always had #, regardless of user17:12
asumoroot and non root17:12
asumotruly bizare17:12
EriC^^asumo: if you're using bash, then "$" is standard for users17:12
qwebirc58390Nothing is happening17:13
lordcirthasumo, did you ever change $PS1? It is just a string that can be changed.17:13
asumoeric ive always had #17:13
qwebirc58390A lot of stuff came up when I typed "sudo lshw -C network"17:13
EriC^^qwebirc58390: ah, can you put a wired connection on the PC?17:13
asumolordcirth: not sure, not intentionally17:13
qwebirc58390yes that's what I'm using @eric17:13
EriC^^asumo: something must have been broke then, i guess17:13
asumoyeah17:13
EriC^^qwebirc58390: are you able to "ping -c1 google.com" ?17:13
asumogot i am dumb17:13
lordcirthqwebirc58390, if you have a working internet connection, then you should get a link back17:13
qwebirc58390@eric In terminal?17:14
asumoi never realized what a headache zsh shell change would be17:14
ioriaN != n17:14
qwebirc58390Yes, able to ping google17:14
qwebirc58390My internet is working17:14
ioriaqwebirc58390, sudo lshw -c Network | nc termbin.com 999917:14
qwebirc58390I have been working using my LAN @Erik17:14
asumoi cant stand the $ lol17:14
asumoi feel like a peasant17:14
asumolol17:14
qwebirc58390Typing this into terminal -  sudo lshw -c Network | nc termbin.com 999917:14
EriC^^ioria: lshw is case insensitive17:14
qwebirc58390@asumo if you are a peasant I am a hunter gatherer here L)17:14
qwebirc58390:) *17:14
asumoshare a morsel with me mate :)17:15
EriC^^ioria: diff <(lshw -c Network) <(lshw -c network) if you dont believe me :)17:15
ioriayeah17:15
qwebirc58390This was the response when I typed sudo lshw -c Network | nc termbin.com 999917:15
EriC^^qwebirc58390: try from the terminal "ping -c1 google.com"17:15
qwebirc58390https://termbin.com/hslq17:15
qwebirc58390@eric I did it pings back17:16
asumoanyone here on ubuntu 16.0417:16
qwebirc58390Ahh I opened the link17:16
naccasumo: please stop asking that, what is your actual question?17:16
qwebirc58390It says this:17:16
qwebirc58390  *-network        description: Ethernet interface        product: RTL8111/8168/8411 PCI Express Gigabit Ethernet Controller        vendor: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd.        physical id: 0        bus info: pci@0000:01:00.0        logical name: enp1s0        version: 15        serial: c8:d9:d2:d9:89:90        size: 100Mbit/s        capacity: 1Gbit/s        width: 64 bits        clock: 33MHz        capabilities: pm msi pciexpress17:16
lordcirthasumo, don't ask poll questions, please17:16
asumoi really am curious as to why ive always had # whilst others had $17:16
naccqwebirc58390: please don't paste it literally here, that's the point of the pastebin.17:16
qwebirc58390I'm sorry17:16
qwebirc58390what is a pastebin?17:16
asumonacc: im not polling anyone17:17
naccqwebirc58390: you use the tool mentioned, and you get the URL, as you did, then you put the url in the channel17:17
qwebirc58390Ok17:17
naccqwebirc58390: a tool to shared long pastes17:17
ioriaqwebirc58390, also this :   lspci -nnk | nc termbin.com 999917:17
OerHeksasumo,  that answer is already been given, if you use sudo, it sticks for a certain ammount of time, to give the next sudo command without retyping, that is ubuntu17:17
asumoi simply am curious if other 16.04 users have had the same issue17:17
qwebirc58390This is the link - https://termbin.com/hslq17:17
asumoOerHeks: you dont understand17:17
lotuspsychjeqwebirc58390: your wifi card shows unclaimed, is your system up to date?17:17
qwebirc58390Typing and sending the respone of this - lspci -nnk | nc termbin.com 9999 also, one moment17:17
asumoso never mind your supposed answer17:17
qwebirc58390@lotus how do I know if it is up to date17:18
qwebirc58390I was using windows before this and Wifi was working17:18
naccasumo: create a dummy user and login as them, see what their prompt looks like.17:18
lotuspsychje!uptodate | qwebirc5839017:18
ubottuqwebirc58390: To ensure you have all the latest known patches and security updates for your ubuntu installation, please update with the following command: `sudo apt update && sudo apt upgrade`. See also !upgrades and !security; you may also need to run `apt full-upgrade`.17:18
qwebirc58390Got Ubuntu a couple of days back17:18
qwebirc58390One moment17:18
qwebirc58390Typing and sending the respone of this - lspci -nnk | nc termbin.com 9999 also, one moment17:18
asumonacc: good point17:18
qwebirc58390Doing this first17:18
qwebirc58390Then !uptodate17:18
asumonacc: will do17:18
qwebirc58390Then this - sudo apt update && sudo apt upgrade17:18
qwebirc58390reponse to this - lspci -nnk | nc termbin.com 9999  :  https://termbin.com/bk5d17:19
qwebirc58390Response to !uptodate was https://termbin.com/bk5d17:20
qwebirc58390Sorry17:20
qwebirc58390It was bash: !uptodate: event not found17:20
naccqwebirc58390: !uptodate was a trigger to the bot in the hcannel to give you the command to use17:20
qwebirc58390Oh17:20
naccqwebirc58390: read the faq it gave you and follow the steps, not the command in the channel17:20
qwebirc58390Ahh17:21
qwebirc58390I did sudo apt update && sudo apt upgrade and it's updating17:21
naccright17:21
OerHeks rtl8723de  https://askubuntu.com/questions/961299/cannot-see-my-wifi-10ecd723-when-trying-ubuntu17:21
qwebirc58390As in lots of commands are coming on the terminal17:21
EriC^^asumo: it could be your user's .bashrc is different for the PS1 part (that's the shell prompt variable)17:21
qwebirc58390I think update is complete17:21
qwebirc58390What should I do17:21
qwebirc58390Should I follow this?  https://askubuntu.com/questions/961299/cannot-see-my-wifi-10ecd723-when-trying-ubuntu17:21
OerHeks!info linux-firmware17:22
ubottulinux-firmware (source: linux-firmware): Firmware for Linux kernel drivers. In component main, is optional. Version 1.173.3 (bionic), package size 63770 kB, installed size 274301 kB17:22
EriC^^asumo: you could try "diff <(cat /etc/skel/.bashrc) <(cat ~/.bashrc)" to spot an differences17:22
qwebirc58390Oer I had seen that thread, but forgive me, the instructions I couldn't follow17:22
qwebirc58390@ubottu should I do that? and how?17:23
naccqwebirc58390: ubottu is just a bot.17:23
qwebirc58390Ok17:23
asumoEriC^^: it could be17:23
qwebirc58390Does ubutto dream of electric sheep17:23
asumoanyways i appreciate the help17:23
lotuspsychjeqwebirc58390: ok you can stop trolling now17:24
OerHeksfirst i would try installing linux-firmware, if that does not help, follow that guide17:24
asumoit just amazes me that i am the only one to have experienced this17:24
qwebirc58390@lotus, as in?17:24
nacc!tab | qwebirc5839017:24
ubottuqwebirc58390: You can use your <tab> key for autocompletion of nicknames in IRC, as well as for completion of filenames and programs on the command line.17:24
ioriaqwebirc58390, you need to build the module yourself17:24
qwebirc58390Ah, nice nacc17:25
qwebirc58390:( that is going to be impossible at this stage17:25
qwebirc58390I just want to use Wifi17:25
asumoqwebirc58390: what kernel are u using?17:25
qwebirc58390Let me research more17:25
qwebirc58390I don't know asumo17:26
asumodoes it have all the modules17:26
naccqwebirc58390: uname -r17:26
asumoqwebirc58390: type uname -a17:26
qwebirc583904.18.0-16-generic17:26
asumodid u havee wifi before?17:26
asumoor is this a new problem?17:27
qwebirc58390On the same laptop, before when using Windows, yes Wifi was working17:27
asumono on your linux distro17:27
qwebirc58390No17:27
naccqwebirc58390: windows is relatively irrelevant to ubuntu in this case17:27
qwebirc58390I got Ubuntu day before17:27
asumookay17:27
qwebirc58390nacc: noted17:27
naccqwebirc58390: did you "try" ubuntu first? did it work in there?17:27
qwebirc58390When I go to settings17:27
asumoive never experienced that to be honest17:28
naccqwebirc58390: more than likely, you will need to do some amount of manual steps to get your wifi working in ubuntu. If you need it immediately, I would suggest using Winows.17:28
nacc*Windows17:28
qwebirc58390It says No WiFi adapter found17:28
asumokernel changes have impacted both wifi and bluetooth17:28
qwebirc58390Windows is way too slow and buggy for my work and I have LAN for the next 3 days17:28
asumobut not the standard ubuntu desktop install17:28
qwebirc58390Ok, asumo should I find a different Kernel17:28
sveinseWhat happens when 14.04 LTS expires (when in April)? What does that entail practically?17:28
naccqwebirc58390: then follow what ioria said, which you already said was impossible for some reasons17:29
qwebirc58390Assuming Kernal is the build17:29
asumoqwebirc58390: i would suggest you connect via ethernet17:29
lotuspsychjesveinse: 18th april17:29
qwebirc58390nacc: I don't know what a module is17:29
asumoand do a complete sudo apt update && apt upgrade17:29
naccqwebirc58390: then you probably should not be doing this :)17:29
lotuspsychjesveinse: upgrade to 16.04 or payed ESM support17:29
qwebirc58390asumo: I'm doing that atm, it's perfect, just need Wifi for portability17:29
naccsveinse: iirc, the repository stops getting updates; you can pay canonical for ESM if you want to use it longer17:29
asumoi c17:29
qwebirc58390Should I try a different build?17:30
qwebirc58390Any suggestions?17:30
asumoive am shocked to tell you the truth17:30
asumowhat laptop model u got?17:30
ioriaqwebirc58390, already told you17:30
qwebirc58390HPq1417:30
=== epi is now known as Guest54124
asumoqwebirc58390: give lubuntu or kubuntu a try17:30
asumoleaner versions17:30
lotuspsychjeasumo: stop that please17:31
qwebirc58390ioria: checking the chat for your suggestion of alternative build17:31
sveinselotuspsychje: well, we can't, the (embedded) HW support does not newer kernels. And newer ubuntus use systemd, which require newer kernel.17:31
asumolotuspsychje: stop what?17:31
asumoso much bitching17:31
asumoand all i am trying to do is help17:31
OerHeksasumo stop helping changing versions, just focus on wifi fixing17:31
sveinselotuspsychje: perhaps this too is #ubuntu-discuss?17:31
lotuspsychjeasumo: yep ^17:32
sveinseWill the repos for 14.04 LTS be taken down? Or just not more updated?17:33
OerHekssveinse, they will fade away, and the EOLupgrade factoid gives 1 server for testing purposes17:34
lotuspsychjesveinse: nacc already told you17:34
OerHeks!eolupgrade17:34
ubottuEnd-Of-Life is the time when security updates and support for an Ubuntu release stop, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Releases for more information. Looking to upgrade from an EOL release? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EOLUpgrades17:34
OerHekssveinse, wait, why do you thing they will get updates :-D17:35
sveinselotuspsychje: nacc: sorry I overlooked that. What I ment to ask was what happens to the physical 14.04 repo, but from the URL above it seems they are reachable at least17:36
qwebirc58390Thanks all17:36
qwebirc58390I will research more and try to resolve this17:36
qwebirc58390Hope everyone has a good day'17:36
sveinseOerHeks: I don't expect any updates, but I need to know if I should plan having a local on-prem mirror of 14.04 in case it goes away17:37
=== kallesbar_ is now known as kallesbar
=== Chex is now known as Guest65448
OerHekshttps://usn.ubuntu.com/18:18
ioria!info firefox18:22
ubottufirefox (source: firefox): Safe and easy web browser from Mozilla. In component main, is optional. Version 66.0.1+build1-0ubuntu0.18.04.1 (bionic), package size 48863 kB, installed size 185455 kB18:22
=== Guest65448 is now known as Chex
lotuspsychjemy brave browser(snap) issue got a bit weirder, i can launch it from gnome app list & software center but not from the dock18:24
tomreynsveinse: they will be moved to a different hostname at an unannounced date, without notification to anyone.18:25
tomreynsveinse: but then you shouldn't need to be asking this in the first place.18:26
sveinsetomreyn: thanks. what do you mean "shouldn't nee to be asking"?18:27
tomreynsveinse: your question suggests that you intend to run 14.04 systems beyond EOL. you should not be doing this, should have planned for preventing this.18:28
sveinsetomreyn: yeah, generically I completely agree. For us it's a business decision and a contingency. The picture is more complex than what is stated here. It's a part an an embedded product where support is required beyond the upstream ubuntu support.18:30
tomreynthat's unless you're an !ESM customer, in which case you'll be receiving (probably already received) instructions on how to benefit from extended support. but ESM is really out of scope here.18:30
lotuspsychjethis is when i launch brave from gnome software list: https://hastebin.com/elivugalez.sql18:32
Guest13342Hello!  When I run "sudo iptables -L" it prints part of the list and just... hangs18:34
=== sinner is now known as Guest71168
tomreynGuest13342: what's the output of:   nc termbin.com 9999 < <(lsb_release -ds;cat /proc/{version,cmdline};)18:36
iorialotuspsychje, i think it's a apparmor problem18:36
lotuspsychjeioria: i tryed setting permissions in software center, but no dice18:36
iorialotuspsychje, but if you copy /var/lib/snapd/desktop/applications/brave_brave.desktop   on your Desktop and trust it,it works18:38
lotuspsychjeioria: lemme try18:38
lotuspsychjeioria: yes, works18:40
lotuspsychjeioria: dragging to dock doesnt work18:40
iorialotuspsychje, no relevant logs infos about the Dock failure18:42
lotuspsychjeioria: no doesnt give me output when launch from dock18:42
howitzerhello18:42
howitzerLotus18:43
=== manacit is now known as JSONYeet
=== SimonNL_Afk is now known as SimonNL
iorialotuspsychje, when did you install brave ? right now ?18:49
lotuspsychjeioria: a while ago, tryed a reinstall and a --classic reinstall also no dice18:51
=== steve__ is now known as xrandr
lotuspsychjeioria: when i add icon to favorites(dock) from your location or desktop, it also dont launch18:51
iorialotuspsychje, yep:  https://www.reddit.com/r/Ubuntu/comments/a7kp2k/the_brave_browser_will_not_open_from_ubuntu_side/18:52
lotuspsychjelets c18:52
iorialotuspsychje,  seems you need thei pkg18:52
pablackflow: so, usb drive sitting in front of me. 18.04 freshly installed, no X running. disk spun down after 30' of startup. staid so for a few hours18:52
panow it has been awaken again18:52
paso i'd say the problem is still there18:53
pamaybe your drives are different18:53
pai can tell you that this one stays spun down on 14.0418:53
iorialotuspsychje,  from here i mean  : https://brave.com/18:53
pablackflow: and i can't see suspicious processes that can be blamed.. http://paste.debian.net/hidden/fed3c3a3/18:56
lotuspsychjeioria: seems such a dirty workaround, from an lts installing brave from software and it doesnt work18:58
lotuspsychjeioria: but tnx for the proposal :p18:59
ioriaok19:00
=== as4h3l_ is now known as as4h3l
fleabeardhello friends, was hoping someone could advise on how I can enable http strict-transport security (hsts) for apache2? I'm guessing I need to enable a module in apache2 for this functionality, but am clueless on how to load the module.19:20
hexhaxtronWhat would be an easy way to password-protect a directory on Nautilus?19:20
tewardfleabeard: HSTS is done by a header19:20
tewardfleabeard: not a specialized module19:20
tewardfleabeard: https://raymii.org/s/tutorials/HTTP_Strict_Transport_Security_for_Apache_NGINX_and_Lighttpd.html#Set_up_HSTS_in_Apache2 is one such place you'll be able to find an easy explanation of what to add where19:21
fleabeardthanks teward, I'll give that a good read :)19:21
tewardfleabeard: but enable the HEaders module, then add something like this to the VirtualHost definition: Header always set Strict-Transport-Security "max-age=63072000; includeSubdomains;"19:21
fleabeardteward, yep, that's what I mean to say, was how to load the Headers module, lol. I'm still new to this stuff unfortunately :)19:22
fleabeardreading your link now19:22
tewardfleabeard: `sudo a2enmod headers`19:22
tewardfleabeard: that should enable the module :p19:22
tewardwithout the backticks19:23
fleabeardteward, awesome! Many thanks!19:23
=== SimonNL is now known as SimonNL_Afk
WaowannoyedHi guys, Im a linux noob and just got ubuntu, then downloaded xfce and the touchpad was not working, so I looked up some solution that said tgat i should sudo apt-get xserver-xorg-synaptics(something), it solved the touchpad issue but now my keyboard is not working, thanks19:28
nevodkaRunning 16.0419:30
nevodkaRunning 16.04 LTS and google-chrome-stable no longer brings up a window.19:30
nevodkaThe processes all get started but nothing gets outputted to terminal, and no window appears.19:30
nevodka(meanwhile firefox works just fine.)19:31
nevodkaSuppose I'll try to purge and reinstall.19:31
=== isantop_ is now known as isantop
BlankspaceHI19:32
Blankspacehow to know java home directory\19:33
Blankspacein ubuntu19:33
nevodkaAaand the issue persists.19:33
nevodkaBlankspace: env | grep JAVA19:33
=== hibbie1 is now known as hibbie
BlankspaceWHEN i do that i get some path19:35
Blankspacebut when i type that path in some other program which asks for it19:35
Blankspaceit says invalid jdk directory19:35
nevodkaToo vague.19:36
Blankspacelike i am trying to run one software i downloaded19:36
Blankspaceit asks for java home directory19:36
piratassilicioeae19:36
OerHeksopenjdk10 /usr/lib/jvm/java-11-openjdk-amd6419:36
nevodkaWas the path tied to JAVA_HOME? What path is the program asking you to enter?19:36
Blankspaceto run19:36
=== JSONYeet is now known as manacit
Blankspacejdk home directory19:37
Blankspacepath to jdk home directory19:37
nevodka(p.s. removing the google-chrome config solved my issue)19:37
Bashing-omWaowannoyed: synaptics (touchpad) is deprecated in favor of libinput; See: apt show xserver-xorg-input-libinput .19:37
* piratassilicio is away: Estou ocupado19:37
* piratassilicio is back (gone 00:00:05)19:37
OerHeks /usr/bin/java19:37
nevodkaBlankspace: what was the output of env | grep JAVA19:38
OerHeksyou could check yourself19:38
nevodkaDid it give you a path for JAVA_HOME?19:38
BlankspaceJAVA_HOME=/usr/lib/jvm/java-8-openjdk-i386/jre/bin/java19:38
Blankspacehow do i know if i have jdk installed19:38
OerHeksBlankspace, you just showed us19:39
nevodkaapt list --installed | grep jdk19:39
OerHeksbut 8 is old, i would go for 1119:39
Blankspaceso this is correct path?19:39
Blankspacehow do i upgrade19:40
Blankspaceto 1119:40
nevodka /shrug19:40
nevodkanot a java user19:40
Blankspacenor am i19:40
Blankspacei just want to run the sotware i donloaded19:40
OerHekssudo apt install <package>19:40
Blankspacedownloaded19:41
=== sinner is now known as Guest86592
Ben64Blankspace: what software19:41
ceciestuntesttest19:41
OerHeks!test19:41
ubottuTesting... Testing... 1. 2.. 3...19:41
screwdriverHiiiiii, Does anybody know of a way to change the default dashboard/application launcher? I really want to move to Ubuntu but I really dislike the dashboard. I like the way the slingscold launcher looks but it doesn't seem updated for 18+.19:42
screwdriverI normally would be fine with Kubuntu but I am getting a tablet laptop soon and really like the way Unity works on laptops.19:42
leftyfbscrewdriver: there's multiple desktop environments you can try19:43
screwdriverI've tried a couple but they change too much, the only issue with Unity I have is the dashboard.19:43
leftyfbthough, if you like Unity, the default gnome implementation on Ubuntu 18.04 and newer look basically the same way19:44
leftyfbdashboard?19:44
Blankspacey is it showing not a valid jdk home directory\19:44
screwdriverIt does not show new applications when installed and there are no categories for apps or anything19:44
Ben64Blankspace: ask your software vendor19:44
screwdriverYea like the little unity button on the left. I think it's called the dash.19:45
leftyfbscrewdriver: there are gnome extensions you can install that will give you an application menu with categories19:45
screwdriverOoohh do you know what they are called? I have wasted hours in Google trying to find something like that.19:45
leftyfbscrewdriver: https://extensions.gnome.org/19:45
screwdriverThank youuuu <319:46
screwdriverI'll check them out, I appreciate it. :)19:46
OerHekstip:  install gnome-tweak-tool, to have access to gnome extentions setting19:46
leftyfbscrewdriver: I use the "Frippery Applications Menu"19:46
leftyfbOerHeks: I've had issues with using tweak to manage extensions. I don't recommend it19:46
leftyfbIt put a couple extensions into a limbo state19:47
chriyshi, I have Ubuntu 18.04 I'm trying to add a Konica Minolta C554. Any link, doc or tips to have it working on my machine so that I can print ?19:48
OerHeksleftyfb, some extentions needs hot corners enabled, pretty weird indeed19:50
OerHeksi checked openprinting, http://www.openprinting.org/driver/Postscript-KONICA_MINOLTA/19:51
=== as4h3l_ is now known as as4h3l
Sven_vBon xenial, one of my prgrams (Microsoft VDCode) accepts most of my key bindings perfectly, just not ctrl+shift+u. c+s+(some other letter) works; u and s+u also work, just not with ctrl held. how can I test whether the u keystroke is sent to vscode, or lost somewhere in the magic of X or my window manager?19:56
DurkeyWormhey all, i had a question about using debian-installer with a custom live iso i've built20:27
DurkeyWormhow do I invoke the actual installer20:27
DurkeyWormat boot20:27
OerHeksdebian installer? try #debian ?20:27
DurkeyWormi only ask here since i'm using it with an ubuntu build20:28
DurkeyWormie ubuntu server uses debian-installer to do the actual install20:29
OerHeksoh, tasksel?20:29
DurkeyWormpossibly20:29
CarlFKDurkeyWorm: I'd post the script you used to make the disk, and if you did it all by hand... good luck :p20:29
OerHeksyeah, the custom part ..20:30
DurkeyWormi suppose i could write a script to do the "install" part20:31
CarlFKDurkeyWorm: https://github.com/CarlFK/DVswitchLiveCD "start with a Ubuntu Live CD (desktop install CD)  ..."  (about 10 years old, so I wouldn't expect it to work)20:31
OerHeksthat would be predeed?20:31
OerHeksc/preseed20:31
DurkeyWormok, i'll try with a preseed file20:31
DurkeyWormi'll let you know how that goes20:31
DurkeyWormThanks CarlFK and OerHeks20:32
DurkeyWormi'll take a look at that link as well20:32
OerHekshttps://help.ubuntu.com/lts/installation-guide/example-preseed.txt20:32
DurkeyWormnice!20:32
DurkeyWormthanks!20:32
CarlFKDurkeyWorm: if you want to start over: https://salsa.debian.org/carlfk-guest/ansible/blob/usb-reorg1/usbinst/mk_usb_installer.sh20:32
OerHeksyou got me off by debian installer, have fun!20:32
DurkeyWorm:) no worries20:33
DurkeyWormi'll update either way :P20:33
fleabeardteward, I got it all working thanks to your help, mate so thanks! Aside from disabling ServerSignature, ServerToken, Disabling Directory Browsing & HSTS Enabled, would you suggest any other ways to harden a new apache2 webserver? It'll be running my wife's wordpress site eventually.20:33
OerHeksthere is cubic also, to creat your own.. https://askubuntu.com/questions/741753/how-to-use-cubic-to-create-a-custom-ubuntu-live-cd-image20:33
tewardfleabeard: firewalling the host system, if you can, and then additional PHP hardening within Wordpress.20:34
tewardfleabeard: but other than that basic hardening will have been 'done'20:34
lordcirthfleabeard, run https://www.ssllabs.com/ssltest/ against it20:34
lordcirthWhile weak TLS is far from the most common way to attack a server, it's easy to fix20:34
DurkeyWormOerheks, I tried Cubic a little bit, but it seemed to work best for a graphical install20:35
DurkeyWormat least that was my impression20:35
fleabeardlordcirth, thanks, I think I did this when I installed an ssl via letsencrypt, believe it scored an A :)20:35
lordcirthfleabeard, good. recheck every year or so, they update their requirements regularly.20:36
fleabeardteward, thanks, I'll look into that as well. Running wp makes my skin crawl since it's usually hacked all the time :/20:36
CarlFKDurkeyWorm: I'd try that salsa link I gave you.  the hard part will be remembering to git checkout the branch20:36
lordcirthI've tested Hugo for generating a blog. It's a static site generator, so not much to attack.20:37
tewardfleabeard: there's hardening steps you can take, but that'll come after the Wordpress part :p20:37
DurkeyWormcool, ty CarlFK20:37
CarlFKDurkeyWorm:   "try" = do what it says, not start hacking it first.  get the default working first.  that should be super easy.20:38
DurkeyWormyep that makes sense20:38
Blankspacei installed java 1120:38
Blankspacebut still java home shows java 820:39
gambl0r3whats the best way to uninstall npm from my ubuntu?21:10
xamithanapt remove npm?21:10
OerHeksapt or pip3?21:12
DurkeyWormi think my issue is creating a working initrd22:03
DurkeyWormit seems like all of the standard mechanisms for generating and editing one don't want to work22:03
DurkeyWormapparently there's microcode at the beginning of the generated initrd files that cpio won't account for22:05
=== cyb0rg is now known as syb0rg
DurkeyWormis there a way to boot only to the ramfs?22:08
CarlFK16.04, audacity - vu meeter shows it is picking up sound from my mic.  how do I monitor it in my headphones?22:51
Swuwoah22:53
Swucool22:53
murthyCarlFK: open alsamixer in a terminal, press f5 key, then enable loopback23:16
craigbass76I have something plugged into my PC, and I can see my VU meters moving, but I'm not hearing it out the speakers. I am hearing sound from applcations, just not my bass.23:16
murthycraigbass76: open alsamixer in a terminal, press f5 key, then enable loopback23:17
craigbass76curious about that alsamixer question I just missed23:17
craigbass76murthy, I actually don't see a loopback23:19
craigbass76I'm plugged in with one of those Scarlett USB rigs, and I might think that's the issue, but like I said, the VU meter is moving in the GUI mixer23:20
murthycraigbass76: I am not familiar with Scarlett USB device23:21
CarlFKmurthy: how do I "enable loopback" ?23:22
craigbass76Well, like I said, I don't think that's the issue. If the meter wasn't moving, I would.23:22
murthycraigbass76: Generally we can do the method I mentioned with most sound cards, some may be different23:22
craigbass76CarlFK, do you see a loopback slider in alsamixer?23:22
raidghostName.service startup scripts23:22
raidghostwhere are they supposed to be made?23:22
murthyCarlFK: use your left right keys to choose loopback and then press up button23:23
raidghosttried systemctl enable Name.service and nothing happend.23:23
CarlFKhttp://paste.ubuntu.com/p/B66P36HjnZ/  alsamixer23:23
xamithanWhere did you put them23:24
CarlFKah, those are arrorws.. there is more. found loopback, but is says "enabled"23:24
raidghostxamithan: /lib/systemd/system/23:24
murthyraidghost: run the command "systemctl list-units" and see if the unit you are searching exists23:25
xamithanthey go in etc not lib23:25
xamithanthe package provided ones go in lib23:25
murthyCarlFK: did you press the f5 key?23:26
murthyCarlFK: ignore above23:26
CarlFKmurthy: I g2g, thanks for the tips23:26
murthyCarlFK: If loopback is enabled then you should be able to hear23:27
xamithanAlso,  if you aren't rebooting you need to do a systemctl daemon-reload after you make a new file23:27
raidghostxamithan: so allways etc then?23:34
xamithanYes23:34
raidghostThanks ;)23:34
xamithandon't forget the daemon-reload too23:35
xamithanit doesn't auto refresh those files except on boot23:35
raidghostoh. after the systemctl enable file.service?23:35
xamithanbefore that23:35
raidghosthmm. okey then ;)23:35
NewToLubuntuI was wondering if anyone could recommend a program I could use for optical character recognition in images for Japanese hiragana if I drag a window around what I want to converto to text characters.23:36
NewToLubuntuI remember I used to have something years ago on windows for that but I forgot the name and imagine I could need something different now.23:37
craigbass76murthy, that's weird. I can record in audacity, listen to it afterwards, but not hear it DURING...23:37
craigbass76Usually I need jack to really throw me for a loop, not pulse by itself...23:37
tomreynNewToLubuntu: you want OCR, but only while you are dragging a window around? that's a peculiar use case, no?23:39
NewToLubuntuwell just something user-friendly like if I am looking at an image like http://clotica.com/Amatsurichara2.png and want to transcribe the hiragana on the upper right23:40
NewToLubuntudoing the entire image would probably clutter the output and lead to confusion23:41
NewToLubuntuthough if need be I could manually crop it and then feed the cropped image to OCR23:41
OerHeksTesseract claims to do Japanese OCR23:42
tomreynoh you mean you want to select part of the image only as input to the OCR, i see. so not drag and drop.23:42
OerHeksABBYY and Readiris too23:42
NewToLubuntuyeah I meant like hold down mouse and drag it to select the corners of a box23:43
=== Sveta_ is now known as Sveta
NewToLubuntuI tried KanjiTomo but it wouldn't launch ,said they onl tested it on windows 7/1023:44
NewToLubuntuthought it had worked on vista in past23:44
OerHekshttps://askubuntu.com/questions/16268/whats-the-best-simplest-ocr-solution23:44
qwebirc56993Hey yall23:44
qwebirc56993I need some halp23:44
qwebirc56993Anyone there?23:44
NewToLubuntusomething which could recognize kanji as well wuold be great, but at bare minimum I was hoping for the hiragana23:44
shadrowrammsure23:44
tomreyn!ask | qwebirc5699323:44
ubottuqwebirc56993: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience23:44
qwebirc56993Ok I'm sorry. I'm having problems connecting to the internet through WICD23:45
qwebirc56993No matter how many times I refresh nothing happens23:45
tomreynNewToLubuntu: you can use ocrfeeder with tesseract, it works okay for english and other latin script text. I do not know about hiragana, though. Worth a try?23:46
qwebirc56993Distro is Ubuntu 18.04 running XFCE23:46
OerHeksthat was my 1st thought too, tesseract https://github.com/tesseract-ocr/tesseract/wiki/Data-Files23:47
tomreynhttps://github.com/tesseract-ocr/tesseract/wiki/ControlParams#useful-parameters-for-japanese-and-chinese23:47
tomreynqwebirc56993: xfce comes with network manager by default. why are you preferring wicd?23:49
tomreyn*xubuntu23:49
qwebirc56993I am not preferring it lol. I bought this computer with 18.04 on it already and it had Xfce loaded along with wicd23:50
qwebirc56993I needed a cheap computer to do basic word processing and internet, but I cant do either right now23:50
tomreynqwebirc56993: who sold it like this? i suggest you install xubuntu 18.04.2 on it, then, restore your backuos.23:54
qwebirc56993I got it off craigslist. I cant install ubuntu without internet. This is my only computer23:55
tomreynthen how are yo typing this?23:55
qwebirc56993My phone23:55
tomreynso your phone must be a computer, too23:55
qwebirc56993There's an IRC web link on the ubuntu IRC wiki23:56
tomreynqwebirc56993: do you have a live/installer usb stick or optical media you can boot from?23:58
qwebirc56993So any suggestions on how to get internet working through WICD?23:58
qwebirc56993I do not23:58
qwebirc56993I've got a USB coming in the mail but that wont do much if I dont ge internet23:59
tomreyndoes your computer have a wired or wireless connection?23:59
qwebirc56993Wireless. Idk if I have an ethernet cable23:59

Generated by irclog2html.py 2.7 by Marius Gedminas - find it at mg.pov.lt!