[10:45] <bluesabre> !team | beta freeze today (3/25), beta release on Thursday (3/28)
[10:45] <bluesabre> Maybe kick the tires if you've got some moments to spare ;)
[11:10] <Unit193> bluesabre: -screensaver is in Debian (not of my own doing), and xfdesktop patch? :3
[17:37] <flocculant> bluesabre: any idea of likely respins? I will do some vm tests but don't want to do them and respins ...
[17:38] <flocculant> and there's not a beta on the tracker yet either
[19:25] <brainwash> booted the daily iso, did a logout, and the greeter shows no wallpaper
[19:25] <brainwash> just a black background
[19:31] <brainwash> bluesabre: locking with xfce4-screensaver gives me a black screen until mouse movement, then I can briefly see the unlock screen followed by the unlocked desktop
[19:32] <brainwash> bluesabre: that is the live session, so no password set
[19:33] <Spass> can confirm, black background on a new user's login screen, it's a side effect of changing the Plymouth background, because (I think) it's used as a default LightDM background also
[19:34] <brainwash> so, the lightdm config needs to point to a different location
[19:34] <Spass> later it gets changed to user background by default, but the first login looks strange indeed
[19:35] <brainwash> https://git.launchpad.net/xubuntu-default-settings/tree/usr/share/lightdm/lightdm-gtk-greeter.conf.d/30_xubuntu.conf
[19:36] <Spass> yeah, it probably should link to /usr/share/xfce4/backdrops/xubuntu-wallpaper.png
[19:36] <knome> bluesabre, ping! ^
[19:37] <knome> actually we probably want yet another simple file...
[19:38] <Spass> like old Plymouth ones, but just for LightDM?
[19:41] <Spass> since LightDM has a fade effect to a user wallpaper, it would be better to have some slightly less "distracting" and colorful image than current default wallpaper, in my opinion, so I think I know what you mean knome
[19:43] <brainwash> something like just the background without the forms and lines?
[19:46] <Spass> yes
[19:48] <Spass> that's what it used to be
[19:48] <Spass> I mean, it was that way before :)
[19:51] <Spass> I'm upgrading disco in my VM right now and I got this message - https://i.imgur.com/yK3IQUV.png
[19:52] <Spass> and a crash
[19:56] <brainwash> Spass: no crash report popup?
[19:57] <Spass> I have the popup, will paste it in 1 sec
[19:59] <flocculant> I had a bunch of those - in this installed system last week
[19:59] <Spass> https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/jQ2CNXH62c/
[19:59] <flocculant> while updating too iirc
[20:01] <Spass> after I clicked 'Send" in the crash report window - https://i.imgur.com/1f170I2.png
[20:06] <brainwash> Spass: probably bug 1813855
[20:08] <Spass> yes, looks like it
[20:10] <Spass> well, since I'm testing I'll let you know about this small issue also - https://i.imgur.com/xBJlFXd.png
[20:10] <Spass> but I should probably report that on #xfce-dev instead
[20:11] <Spass> xfdesktop doesn't respect that setting any more, icons in menus are still showing
[20:12] <brainwash> a report for that exists
[20:13] <Spass> oh ok, sorry
[20:15] <brainwash> Spass: https://bugzilla.xfce.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14770
[20:16] <Spass> and unfortunately Window Manager settings window is still broken, but I've reported that already here - https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xfce4-settings/+bug/1785143
[20:17] <Spass> (for cosmic, but it seems unchanged)
[20:18] <brainwash> that happens when no one looks into it
[20:20] <brainwash> looks like a blocker for Xfce 4.14
[20:20] <brainwash> ask in #xfce-dev what they think about it
[20:28] <brainwash> Spass: does it crash in 19.04 with xfwm 4.12?
[20:29] <brainwash> I can confirm that the dragged buttons disappear in the embedded xfwm4-settings window
[20:29] <brainwash> but no crash
[20:30] <Spass> crash is not 100% of the time, I use xfwm4 4.13.1 on my Disco install (I use some Xubuntu dev PPAs)
[20:31] <Spass> I'm reporting a new crash to LP now, because it looks slightly different from my last report
[20:31] <brainwash> okay
[20:35] <Spass> it crashed xfwm4-settings and xfce4-settings-manager in the same time
[20:37] <Spass> hope this helps - https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xfwm4/+bug/1821638
[20:39] <brainwash> reference this report in your upstream report
[20:39] <Spass> ok, will do
[20:43] <Spass> yep, that xfce4-settings-manager crash in dingo is the same as it was in cosmic, "Send" button worked on that one from the report window - https://i.imgur.com/kEhgSvc.png
[20:59] <Spass> I've added some new information to my old upstream report - https://bugzilla.xfce.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14606
[21:01] <cyphermox> Unit193: bluesabre: judging from more way-more-looking-at-packagesets-than-I-really-want-to-do; I think you're missing xfce4-volumed from your 'supported' seed :)
[21:04] <Unit193> cyphermox: You are correct, this used to be seeded but we moved to -pulseaudio-plugin (which replaces indicator-sound and -volumed.)
[21:05] <cyphermox> ah!
[21:05] <cyphermox> cool; ignore me then :)
[21:09] <Unit193> Well, you're right.
[21:09] <Unit193> That's just how it was missed, it wasn't moved to supported but entirely dropped.