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lubotfedericofantinidev was added by: federicofantinidev06:36
lubot<federicofantinidev> Hi06:36
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markus__Lxqt is pretty cool. It has a task bar, a menu. I can start applications, switch between application easily, have multiple desktops :D i like it15:12
markus__And it looks decent15:13
lubot<kc2bez> Thanks for the feedback. We like it too :)15:13
markus__I hope it ends up in Kali repos soon so I can use it in Kali linux15:16
markus__I can't figure out how to add new shortcuts to the quicklaunch widget. I tried to drag n drop, right click on items in the start menu and also right click on the quick launch widget, but i'm not able to find out how to do it.16:22
markus__I finally got it. If i go to the start menu and navigate the menu *without using the search function* i can drag and drop icons from the menu into the quicklaunch.16:26
tomaszkowalczyk9hello16:54
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lubot<federicofantinidev> Guys, how can I install lubuntu 18.10 with lvm encrypted luks partition? … I always use debian and I can't find itπŸ˜…17:42
apt-ghettoBIOS or UEFI installation?17:42
lubot<federicofantinidev> @apt-ghetto [<apt-ghetto> BIOS or UEFI installation?], My pc support Uefi but not allows me to choose17:43
lubot<federicofantinidev> I think Uefi17:44
apt-ghettoWith UEFI there is a problem: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T217:45
apt-ghettoAfter installation it will not boot, because there are missing modules17:45
lubot<federicofantinidev> @apt-ghetto [<apt-ghetto> After installation it will not boot, because there are missing modu …], I see now17:48
apt-ghettoA BIOS installation should work, though17:49
apt-ghettoDuring the installation there should be a checkbox or a combobox, where you can choose encryption17:50
lubot<federicofantinidev> @apt-ghetto [<apt-ghetto> During the installation there should be a checkbox or a combobox, w …], Yes I did it before17:52
apt-ghettoThe installation worked? But you cannot boot?17:52
lubot<federicofantinidev> @apt-ghetto [<apt-ghetto> The installation worked? But you cannot boot?], Exactly17:53
apt-ghettoThere is a workaround to get it working17:53
apt-ghettoIt is written in the task, that we had before the data loss17:54
apt-ghettoIf you have other operating systems installed in UEFI mode, you should install Lubuntu also in the same mode17:55
lubot<federicofantinidev> It failed the installation before. I think it always start in Uefi mode17:56
lubot<federicofantinidev> @apt-ghetto [<apt-ghetto> If you have other operating systems installed in UEFI mode, you sho …], No, I have no one OS now17:57
lubot<federicofantinidev> There are a previus buggy BIOS entry there name17:58
apt-ghettoEither you have the EFI-System-Partition with the old bootloaders or your NVRAM is still full with old boot records17:58
lubot<federicofantinidev> There are a previous buggy BIOS entry name17:58
lubot<federicofantinidev> Probably NVRAM is still full with old boot records17:59
apt-ghettoYou can delete the "EFI" directory from the USB stick and after that it cannot boot in EFI mode17:59
lubot<federicofantinidev> But if I install another OS it will start for first18:00
lubot<federicofantinidev> @apt-ghetto [<apt-ghetto> You can delete the "EFI" directory from the USB stick and after tha …], Ok i try18:00
lubot<federicofantinidev> Thanks18:00
apt-ghettoMaybe you can't boot from the USB after that18:01
apt-ghettoIs it a Lenovo?18:01
lubot<federicofantinidev> @apt-ghetto [<apt-ghetto> Is it a Lenovo?], Yes18:01
apt-ghettoDo you have a "Boot" section in your UEFI? And can you change the "Boot Mode"?18:02
apt-ghettoAnd check also that you have the latest UEFI firmware flashed18:03
apt-ghettoSeems that your firmware looks first for a bootloader in the MBR, so you should be able to boot the installer in BIOS mode18:04
lubot<federicofantinidev> @apt-ghetto [<apt-ghetto> Seems that your firmware looks first for a bootloader in the MBR, s …], But fails like Uefi mode18:05
apt-ghettoCheck it with: `[ -d /sys/firmware/efi ] && echo UEFI || echo BIOS`18:05
apt-ghettoWhat do you mean with "fail"?18:06
lubot<federicofantinidev> @apt-ghetto [<apt-ghetto> Check it with: `[ -d /sys/firmware/efi ] && echo UEFI || echo BIOS`], I don't have any OS installed18:06
lubot<federicofantinidev> @apt-ghetto [<apt-ghetto> What do you mean with "fail"?], Not booting18:06
apt-ghettoYou should do this check from the live system in a terminal18:07
lubot<federicofantinidev> @apt-ghetto [<apt-ghetto> You should do this check from the live system in a terminal], Ok, I have gparted live18:07
lubot<federicofantinidev> @apt-ghetto [<apt-ghetto> With UEFI there is a problem: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T2], It is not this error18:19
apt-ghettoI tested the encrypted installation only in virtual machines18:20
apt-ghettoAnd I never had problems with the BIOS installation18:21
lubot<federicofantinidev> I think I made the steps of manual partitioning wrong18:38
lubot<federicofantinidev> There is an automatic option?18:38
lubot<federicofantinidev> Because if I choose the replace disk option It only creates one18:39
lubot<federicofantinidev> Idem erase all18:40
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lubot<teward001> well unless you *create* a dedicated /boot partition it will have /boot as part of the root partition19:49
lubot<teward001> as for swap it should create a swapfile not a swap partition.19:50
lubot<federicofantinidev> If I add swap partition, should I encrypt it?20:07
lubot<teward001> I would not add a separate swap partition20:08
lubot<teward001> use a swap file inside the / instead20:08
lubot<teward001> that way it's covered by the LUKS encryption20:08
lubot<federicofantinidev> @teward001 [use a swap file inside the / instead], How?20:08
lubot<federicofantinidev> With the flag?20:09
lubot<teward001> no20:09
lubot<teward001> do the install first20:09
lubot<teward001> then i'll give you the guidance20:09
lubot<teward001> you CAN do an encrypted swap if you want20:09
lubot<teward001> but I have had varying degrees of succes with it20:09
lubot<teward001> (mostly failures)20:09
lubot<federicofantinidev> @teward001 [then i'll give you the guidance], Thaks a lot guys and sorry for my poor English20:10
lubot<aptghetto> If the swap is in the same luks container, it should work20:10
lubot<federicofantinidev> Should I put any flag to partition?20:13
lubot<federicofantinidev> In boot partition for example?20:13
lubot<federicofantinidev> It tells me that the boot partition must also be encrypted20:18
lubot<federicofantinidev> 😩20:18
lubot<teward001> I would think that you shouldn't need a separate /boot if you're going to encrypt this, but that's my personal opinion20:24
lubot<teward001> (I personally have a dislike for how LUKS does its encryption :/ )20:24
lubot<federicofantinidev> @teward001 [(I personally have a dislike for how LUKS does its encryption :/ )], Why? There are other methods?20:26
lubot<teward001> not that're free.  (My workplace has specialized encryption software we have to use :P)20:26
lubot<federicofantinidev> @teward001 [I would think that you shouldn't need a separate /boot if you're going to encryp …], Now I install lubuntu with erasing disk method20:26
lubot<federicofantinidev> @teward001 [not that're free.  (My workplace has specialized encryption software we have to …], Ok, but the luks encryption have bugs or vuln? I've always read positive comments about it20:28
lubot<teward001> I haven't got any insights into that, I just have worked with LUKS in the past on my systems and then it broke things20:38
lubot<teward001> but that was a while ago πŸ˜›20:38
lubot<teward001> you're free to use the in-built LUKS, I'm not saying you shouldn't.20:38
lubot<teward001> i'm just personally biased against it because of past cases where it was extremely buggy :P20:39
lubot<federicofantinidev> Ok Thanks for the advice but on debian I never had problems20:45
lubot<federicofantinidev> And I think the problem is my pc20:45
lubot<federicofantinidev> Because the base installation fails20:45
lubot<federicofantinidev> As if not reading the boot20:46
cobra-the-jokerHey guys, so on the website , i see that lubuntu is LXDE/LXQT , but these are 2 separate things , does the iso come with both or there are different isos21:34
lubot<tsimonq2> @cobra-the-joker [<cobra-the-joker> Hey guys, so on the website , i see that lubuntu is LXDE/LXQT …], 18.04 and before is LXDE, 18.10 and on is LXQt21:35
cobra-the-jokertsimonq2: ok great21:37

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