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jibelGood morning07:10
dufluMorning jibel07:18
dufluWhich means it's now late enough here for me to water the flowers :)07:19
duflubiab07:19
jibelHi duflu07:20
didrocksgood morning07:23
jibelSalut didrocks, ça va?07:25
didrockssalut jibel, ça va, et toi ?07:30
oSoMoNgood morning desktoppers07:32
didrockssalut oSoMoN07:33
oSoMoNsalut didrocks, ça va?07:33
jibeldidrocks, bien bien :)07:35
jibelsalut oSoMoN07:35
oSoMoNsalut jibel07:35
dufluGood morning didrocks and oSoMoN07:40
didrocksoSoMoN: ça va bien, et toi ?07:43
didrockshey duflu07:43
oSoMoNdidrocks, plutôt bien, merci07:47
oSoMoNhey duflu07:47
willcookemorning all09:10
didrockshey willcooke09:14
oSoMoNgood morning willcooke09:17
dufluMorning willcooke09:21
willcookeandyrock, can this be closed now? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/update-notifier/+bug/178009310:53
ubot5`Ubuntu bug 1780093 in update-notifier (Ubuntu) "Livepatch notifier didn't trigger when a livepatch was applied" [High,Fix committed]10:53
andyrockwillcooke: I guess so11:06
andyrockdone11:06
willcookethanks andyrock11:06
willcookeoSoMoN, can I assign the Bionic and Cosmic entries to you on this one?12:59
willcookehttps://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/libreoffice/+bug/182006212:59
ubot5`Ubuntu bug 1820062 in libreoffice (Ubuntu Cosmic) "LibreOffice Impress embed video problem (libreoffice-gtk3)" [Undecided,New]12:59
willcookei.e. is that something you will be doing12:59
oSoMoNwillcooke, provided the fix proves to work well in disco without regressions, yes13:25
willcookeoSoMoN, got it, thanks.  It will make the tracking lists tidier for now; we wont have an "unassigned" one showing.13:26
willcookebut let me know if you want to be unassigned from it, or just do it yourself and let me know13:27
kenvandineoSoMoN: any idea why there isn't an icon in the indicator for the chromium snap?  There's just a blank space there.13:56
kenvandinenot a new problem13:56
kenvandinei really wish i could run multipass and virtualbox at the same time...14:08
kenvandineso annoying that i can't test things while builds are running :/14:08
oSoMoNyeah, but virtualbox support in multipass is coming, I heard14:30
willcookeMeeting time14:30
willcooke#startmeeting Desktop Team Weekly Meeting 2019-03-2614:30
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willcookeandyrock, dgadomski, didrocks, duflu (out), jbicha, jamesh (out), jibel, kenvandine, laney (hols), oSoMoN, seb128 (hols), tkamppeter, trevinho, robert_ancell (out)14:31
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willcookeoki, as usual, let's start with reviewing the incoming rls bugs.  Starting with Bionic:14:32
willcookehttp://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-bb-incoming-bug-tasks.html14:32
willcookeOne bug there:14:33
willcookehttps://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/mutter/+bug/174086914:33
ubot5`Ubuntu bug 1740869 in mutter (Ubuntu) "<something> is not responding window is constantly showing when debugging a program" [High,Confirmed]14:33
willcookeIt's notfixing14:33
didrockslooks like already assigned?14:33
willcookeyeah, tags are wrong is all14:34
didrocksyep :)14:34
willcookefixed14:34
willcookeok, that was easy14:34
willcookeCosmic14:34
willcookeNothing new14:34
willcookeDisco14:35
willcookehttp://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-dd-incoming-bug-tasks.html14:35
willcookehttps://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-control-center/+bug/181992514:35
ubot5`Ubuntu bug 1819925 in gnome-control-center (Ubuntu) "Opening applications's detail fail for snaps" [High,Triaged]14:35
willcookeLooks like it's assigned and so the tag should be removed14:35
didrocksyep14:35
willcookeNext up: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/policykit-1/+bug/182141514:36
ubot5`Ubuntu bug 1821415 in policykit-1 (Ubuntu) "pkexec fails in a non-graphical environment" [Undecided,New]14:36
willcookeoy14:36
willcookeSounds like it should be fixed for release so taht apport works14:36
willcookethat said, it's been open upstream for 2 years14:37
didrockswell, it's only when there is no graphical env14:37
willcookeah I see14:37
didrocksso no dialog to show "do you want to report this"14:37
didrocksand you manually, on a tty, ubuntu-bug…14:37
didrocksit's annoying, but I would vote -114:37
andyrockI might have an idea on what's going on (I can work on it but -1 for rls)14:38
oSoMoNsounds like a corner case, so -1 from me too14:38
willcookeanyone want to counter that argument?14:38
kenvandinenot me14:39
willcookekk, marking as such14:39
willcookethanks14:39
willcookeI'll import it to Trello for good measure14:39
willcookedone14:40
willcookeoki, lets now look for tracking bugs which are not assigned14:40
willcookestarting with Bionic14:40
willcookehttp://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-bb-tracking-bug-tasks.html14:40
willcookeThere's the libnfs one, which Seb said he would look in to when he's back14:41
willcookehttp://launchpad.net/bugs/174659814:41
ubot5`Ubuntu bug 1746598 in libnfs (Ubuntu Cosmic) "[MIR] libnfs" [Undecided,New]14:41
willcookeso I'm going to skip that for now14:41
willcookehttp://launchpad.net/bugs/182006214:41
ubot5`Ubuntu bug 1820062 in libreoffice (Ubuntu Cosmic) "LibreOffice Impress embed video problem (libreoffice-gtk3)" [Undecided,New]14:41
willcookeI already talked to oSoMoN about that one14:41
willcookeand assigned14:41
willcookeand that's it14:42
willcookeCosmic: http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-cc-tracking-bug-tasks.html14:42
willcookeCosmic is either the same bugs, or already sorted14:42
willcookeand DD is clear14:42
willcookehttp://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-dd-tracking-bug-tasks.html14:42
willcookeNow we'll take a look at the proposed-migrations and see if anything is stuck14:43
willcookehttp://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/proposed-migration/update_excuses_by_team.html#desktop-packages14:43
willcookeNothing new by the looks of things.14:43
willcookeWe assigned some of the trello cards last week that  Laney had added to the board14:44
willcookeso I think that's all ok as well.14:44
willcookesmooth14:44
willcookeSo that's it for standing topics14:44
willcooke#topic AOB14:44
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willcookeAnyone got anything they want to talk about14:44
kenvandinenot from me14:44
didrocksnothing either14:44
andyrocknope14:44
oSoMoNnope14:44
willcookeGoing in 5...14:44
Trevinhoi'm also good14:44
willcooke414:45
willcooke314:45
willcooke2.1. end14:45
willcooke#endmeeting14:45
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meetingologyMeeting ended Tue Mar 26 14:45:50 2019 UTC.14:45
meetingologyMinutes:        http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-desktop/2019/ubuntu-desktop.2019-03-26-14.30.moin.txt14:45
willcookeNice!14:45
willcookethanks all14:45
oSoMoNquick and efficient, the best kind of meeting :)14:46
Trevinho:)14:46
didrocks\o/14:46
oSoMoNkenvandine, you asked about an indicator icon for the chromium snap before the meeting (I was at lunch), not sure what you expect where?14:46
kenvandineoSoMoN: That blank area is chromium https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/aLwUncaf/indicator.png14:50
oSoMoNkenvandine, does it handle clicks? if so does that open a menu?14:51
kenvandineIf I right click there it shows chromium and lets me enable/disable background processes14:51
* kenvandine grabs shot of that14:53
kenvandinehttps://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/Luj49uD3/Screenshot%20from%202019-03-26%2010-52-38.png14:54
willcookekenvandine, I had zero idea that Cr. did that.  However - I've noticed that Telegram loses it's icon fairly often.  Could be snap related, or even the extension14:54
kenvandinei think that's telegram updating14:54
kenvandinebut chromium stays, that gap is pretty much always there when chromium is running14:55
kenvandinewith the deb i used to have a chromium icon there14:55
oSoMoNkenvandine, I don't have that indicator here, let me see if I can figure out how to get it14:56
kenvandineinteresting14:56
oSoMoNkenvandine, while I figure that out, mind filing a bug?15:01
kenvandine oSoMoN sure15:06
kenvandineoSoMoN: it's not an extension... so no idea why it shows up there :)15:11
kenvandineit shows up there on my laptop too15:11
willcookekenvandine, do you have account syncing enabled?  If yes, that might indicate that it's a setting being synced between your machines15:14
tjaaltondidrocks: btw, vulkan-loader security audit (for MIR) is passed15:14
kenvandinewillcooke: indeed15:15
kenvandinebut not sure what setting :)15:15
willcookeI just went through them.  There doesnt seem to be one :D15:16
kenvandinei have 3 extensions installed15:16
kenvandinegreat suspender, google drive and google calendar15:16
kenvandineso shouldn't be one of those15:16
kenvandineand i just confirmed with the deb it does show the icon15:16
kenvandineso it's a snap only isse15:17
kenvandinesometimes the empty spot is to the far left, so it isn't noticable15:17
kenvandinebut i can confirm it's there by clicking it15:17
kenvandineoSoMoN: where should i file the bug?15:18
kenvandineLP, but against the project or the ubuntu package?15:18
didrockstjaalton: yeah, I saw it, can you add the dep/recommends and upload, then ping me, and I'll do the promotion15:19
* kenvandine wishes LP had snap packages :)15:19
oSoMoNkenvandine, use the ubuntu source package15:21
tjaaltondidrocks: yep will do, thanks!15:22
kenvandineoSoMoN: bug 182176515:27
ubot5`bug 1821765 in chromium-browser (Ubuntu) "snap: Missing icon in indicator" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/182176515:27
oSoMoNkenvandine, thanks15:28
didrockstjaalton: yw! Keep me posted :)15:29
willcookekenvandine, oSoMoN - Google searches suggest that the icon might appear if you allow "Background running" for extensions15:35
kenvandineprobably15:35
oSoMoNI've got that setting on, but no indicator15:39
willcookeI wonder if you need some specific extensions which use it in order for it to appear.  My guess is Google Drive15:40
willcookeAdding the "Office editing for docs, sheets and slides" extension makes the "Continue running background apps when Cr. is closed" option appear in Cr. Settings15:43
willcookebut still no icon15:44
willcookeor gap where the icon should be15:44
tjaaltondidrocks: ok, xorg uploaded again. actually, mesa-vulkan-drivers was already promoted, but it depends on libvulkan1 which now needs promoting or image builds will fail (again)15:48
didrockstjaalton: ok, promoting libvulkan115:49
didrockstjaalton: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/vulkan-loader/+bug/1742711/comments/1715:53
ubot5`Ubuntu bug 1742711 in vulkan-loader (Ubuntu) "MIR: vulkan-loader" [Undecided,Fix released]15:53
tjaaltondidrocks: rock on :)15:59
didrocks;)16:00
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willcookeWoot.  I think I've got all the wallpapers in.  I will look at that tomorrow17:55
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EickmeyerHey everyone! The Ubuntu Studio team is working on a way to track our packages, and cyphermox pointed out http://people.canonical.com/~platform/desktop/desktop.html exists. Is there a way to make something like that for Ubuntu Studio?18:29
willcookeEickmeyer, we can look out the source that generates that page, but it's a pretty simple script with a load of hard coded pages and questionable regexs :)18:30
Eickmeyerwillcooke: Rosco2 is looking at the code now. It can definitely be modified, but we'd need a place for it to be hosted.18:31
willcookeoh yeah, the link to the source is at the bottom :)18:31
cyphermoxoh, so it is18:31
cyphermoxI went to look at the directory :/18:32
willcookeI was using google to search launchpad :)18:32
cyphermoxwe are the kings or questionable searching :)18:33
willcooke:D18:33
EickmeyerI even go so far as using Bing sometimes. (did I say that out loud? lol)18:33
cyphermoxEickmeyer: don't make me revoke your upload rights.18:33
Eickmeyercyphermox: LOL!18:33
willcookeEickmeyer, I guess it could run on the same box as those other reports, but it should be easy enough to run anywhere.  Do you have any other web infra it could live on?  The problem with us hosting it is that if you want a new version making live it could be some time before someone gets round to it18:34
willcookeit could even upload the  page to some free static hosting thing18:35
Eickmeyerwillcooke: I have a Digital Ocean droplet personally that I run a bot and my Quassel core, but I'm not sure I'd want to use that. If I had access to the server running ubuntustudio.org, that would be ideal, but alas...18:35
willcookeEickmeyer, how about:  https://surge.sh/18:38
willcookeIt's awesome18:38
willcookeyou could run the script anywhere, and then just send the html to surge for free hosting18:39
Eickmeyerwillcooke: I didn't know about that. Seems like a good idea.18:39
willcookeEickmeyer, see how you get on.  If you are totally stuck, let me know and we can work something out18:39
sarnoldwhats the catch? :)18:39
Eickmeyerwillcooke: Thanks!18:39
Eickmeyersarnold: That's a good rhetorical point.18:40
willcookesarnold, There is *no* catch.  You just hook up your Facebook account and.... oh18:40
EickmeyerLOL!18:40
sarnoldhehe :)18:40
cyphermoxEickmeyer: I suppose you could also ask IS to host the code / run it on the same server that hosts the website18:40
sarnoldaside from the npm, it sure looks really compelling.. and in most circles npm is a plus, not a negative.. heh18:41
cyphermoxit's basically just a crontab that runs once a day, pulls from launchpad for the code and runs it18:41
Eickmeyercyphermox: I could, I suppose. Might take a while or eternity, but worth a shot.18:42
willcookeoh, does it pull every time?  In which case, there wouldnt be a lag between updating it and it going live. But anyways, I think desktop hosting it is sub-optimal18:43
EickmeyerWe've been trying to update ubuntustudio.org's theme for about 3 years and ran into multiple roadblocks and/or ignores, so that left a bad taste in the team's mouth.18:43
cyphermoxEickmeyer: I think we can help facilitating that18:43
* Eickmeyer might need to make like Rosco2 and get a bite to eat before he faints18:44
willcookenight all19:40
oSoMoNgood night19:51

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