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[07:10] <jibel> Good morning
[07:18] <duflu> Morning jibel
[07:19] <duflu> Which means it's now late enough here for me to water the flowers :)
[07:19] <duflu> biab
[07:20] <jibel> Hi duflu
[07:23] <didrocks> good morning
[07:25] <jibel> Salut didrocks, ça va?
[07:30] <didrocks> salut jibel, ça va, et toi ?
[07:32] <oSoMoN> good morning desktoppers
[07:33] <didrocks> salut oSoMoN
[07:33] <oSoMoN> salut didrocks, ça va?
[07:35] <jibel> didrocks, bien bien :)
[07:35] <jibel> salut oSoMoN
[07:35] <oSoMoN> salut jibel
[07:40] <duflu> Good morning didrocks and oSoMoN
[07:43] <didrocks> oSoMoN: ça va bien, et toi ?
[07:43] <didrocks> hey duflu
[07:47] <oSoMoN> didrocks, plutôt bien, merci
[07:47] <oSoMoN> hey duflu
[09:10] <willcooke> morning all
[09:14] <didrocks> hey willcooke
[09:17] <oSoMoN> good morning willcooke
[09:21] <duflu> Morning willcooke
[10:53] <willcooke> andyrock, can this be closed now? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/update-notifier/+bug/1780093
[10:53] <ubot5`> Ubuntu bug 1780093 in update-notifier (Ubuntu) "Livepatch notifier didn't trigger when a livepatch was applied" [High,Fix committed]
[11:06] <andyrock> willcooke: I guess so
[11:06] <andyrock> done
[11:06] <willcooke> thanks andyrock
[12:59] <willcooke> oSoMoN, can I assign the Bionic and Cosmic entries to you on this one?
[12:59] <willcooke> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/libreoffice/+bug/1820062
[12:59] <ubot5`> Ubuntu bug 1820062 in libreoffice (Ubuntu Cosmic) "LibreOffice Impress embed video problem (libreoffice-gtk3)" [Undecided,New]
[12:59] <willcooke> i.e. is that something you will be doing
[13:25] <oSoMoN> willcooke, provided the fix proves to work well in disco without regressions, yes
[13:26] <willcooke> oSoMoN, got it, thanks.  It will make the tracking lists tidier for now; we wont have an "unassigned" one showing.
[13:27] <willcooke> but let me know if you want to be unassigned from it, or just do it yourself and let me know
[13:56] <kenvandine> oSoMoN: any idea why there isn't an icon in the indicator for the chromium snap?  There's just a blank space there.
[13:56] <kenvandine> not a new problem
[14:08] <kenvandine> i really wish i could run multipass and virtualbox at the same time...
[14:08] <kenvandine> so annoying that i can't test things while builds are running :/
[14:30] <oSoMoN> yeah, but virtualbox support in multipass is coming, I heard
[14:30] <willcooke> Meeting time
[14:30] <willcooke> #startmeeting Desktop Team Weekly Meeting 2019-03-26
[14:30] <meetingology> Meeting started Tue Mar 26 14:30:48 2019 UTC.  The chair is willcooke. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology.
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[14:31] <willcooke> andyrock, dgadomski, didrocks, duflu (out), jbicha, jamesh (out), jibel, kenvandine, laney (hols), oSoMoN, seb128 (hols), tkamppeter, trevinho, robert_ancell (out)
[14:31] <kenvandine> o/
[14:31] <Trevinho> o/
[14:31] <oSoMoN> o/
[14:31] <andyrock> o/
[14:32] <willcooke> oki, as usual, let's start with reviewing the incoming rls bugs.  Starting with Bionic:
[14:32] <willcooke> http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-bb-incoming-bug-tasks.html
[14:33] <willcooke> One bug there:
[14:33] <willcooke> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/mutter/+bug/1740869
[14:33] <ubot5`> Ubuntu bug 1740869 in mutter (Ubuntu) "<something> is not responding window is constantly showing when debugging a program" [High,Confirmed]
[14:33] <willcooke> It's notfixing
[14:33] <didrocks> looks like already assigned?
[14:34] <willcooke> yeah, tags are wrong is all
[14:34] <didrocks> yep :)
[14:34] <willcooke> fixed
[14:34] <willcooke> ok, that was easy
[14:34] <willcooke> Cosmic
[14:34] <willcooke> Nothing new
[14:35] <willcooke> Disco
[14:35] <willcooke> http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-dd-incoming-bug-tasks.html
[14:35] <willcooke> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-control-center/+bug/1819925
[14:35] <ubot5`> Ubuntu bug 1819925 in gnome-control-center (Ubuntu) "Opening applications's detail fail for snaps" [High,Triaged]
[14:35] <willcooke> Looks like it's assigned and so the tag should be removed
[14:35] <didrocks> yep
[14:36] <willcooke> Next up: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/policykit-1/+bug/1821415
[14:36] <ubot5`> Ubuntu bug 1821415 in policykit-1 (Ubuntu) "pkexec fails in a non-graphical environment" [Undecided,New]
[14:36] <willcooke> oy
[14:36] <willcooke> Sounds like it should be fixed for release so taht apport works
[14:37] <willcooke> that said, it's been open upstream for 2 years
[14:37] <didrocks> well, it's only when there is no graphical env
[14:37] <willcooke> ah I see
[14:37] <didrocks> so no dialog to show "do you want to report this"
[14:37] <didrocks> and you manually, on a tty, ubuntu-bug…
[14:37] <didrocks> it's annoying, but I would vote -1
[14:38] <andyrock> I might have an idea on what's going on (I can work on it but -1 for rls)
[14:38] <oSoMoN> sounds like a corner case, so -1 from me too
[14:38] <willcooke> anyone want to counter that argument?
[14:39] <kenvandine> not me
[14:39] <willcooke> kk, marking as such
[14:39] <willcooke> thanks
[14:39] <willcooke> I'll import it to Trello for good measure
[14:40] <willcooke> done
[14:40] <willcooke> oki, lets now look for tracking bugs which are not assigned
[14:40] <willcooke> starting with Bionic
[14:40] <willcooke> http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-bb-tracking-bug-tasks.html
[14:41] <willcooke> There's the libnfs one, which Seb said he would look in to when he's back
[14:41] <willcooke> http://launchpad.net/bugs/1746598
[14:41] <ubot5`> Ubuntu bug 1746598 in libnfs (Ubuntu Cosmic) "[MIR] libnfs" [Undecided,New]
[14:41] <willcooke> so I'm going to skip that for now
[14:41] <willcooke> http://launchpad.net/bugs/1820062
[14:41] <ubot5`> Ubuntu bug 1820062 in libreoffice (Ubuntu Cosmic) "LibreOffice Impress embed video problem (libreoffice-gtk3)" [Undecided,New]
[14:41] <willcooke> I already talked to oSoMoN about that one
[14:41] <willcooke> and assigned
[14:42] <willcooke> and that's it
[14:42] <willcooke> Cosmic: http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-cc-tracking-bug-tasks.html
[14:42] <willcooke> Cosmic is either the same bugs, or already sorted
[14:42] <willcooke> and DD is clear
[14:42] <willcooke> http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-dd-tracking-bug-tasks.html
[14:43] <willcooke> Now we'll take a look at the proposed-migrations and see if anything is stuck
[14:43] <willcooke> http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/proposed-migration/update_excuses_by_team.html#desktop-packages
[14:43] <willcooke> Nothing new by the looks of things.
[14:44] <willcooke> We assigned some of the trello cards last week that  Laney had added to the board
[14:44] <willcooke> so I think that's all ok as well.
[14:44] <willcooke> smooth
[14:44] <willcooke> So that's it for standing topics
[14:44] <willcooke> #topic AOB
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[14:44] <willcooke> Anyone got anything they want to talk about
[14:44] <kenvandine> not from me
[14:44] <didrocks> nothing either
[14:44] <andyrock> nope
[14:44] <oSoMoN> nope
[14:44] <willcooke> Going in 5...
[14:44] <Trevinho> i'm also good
[14:45] <willcooke> 4
[14:45] <willcooke> 3
[14:45] <willcooke> 2.1. end
[14:45] <willcooke> #endmeeting
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[14:45] <meetingology> Meeting ended Tue Mar 26 14:45:50 2019 UTC.
[14:45] <meetingology> Minutes:        http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-desktop/2019/ubuntu-desktop.2019-03-26-14.30.moin.txt
[14:45] <willcooke> Nice!
[14:45] <willcooke> thanks all
[14:46] <oSoMoN> quick and efficient, the best kind of meeting :)
[14:46] <Trevinho> :)
[14:46] <didrocks> \o/
[14:46] <oSoMoN> kenvandine, you asked about an indicator icon for the chromium snap before the meeting (I was at lunch), not sure what you expect where?
[14:50] <kenvandine> oSoMoN: That blank area is chromium https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/aLwUncaf/indicator.png
[14:51] <oSoMoN> kenvandine, does it handle clicks? if so does that open a menu?
[14:51] <kenvandine> If I right click there it shows chromium and lets me enable/disable background processes
[14:53]  * kenvandine grabs shot of that
[14:54] <kenvandine> https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/Luj49uD3/Screenshot%20from%202019-03-26%2010-52-38.png
[14:54] <willcooke> kenvandine, I had zero idea that Cr. did that.  However - I've noticed that Telegram loses it's icon fairly often.  Could be snap related, or even the extension
[14:54] <kenvandine> i think that's telegram updating
[14:55] <kenvandine> but chromium stays, that gap is pretty much always there when chromium is running
[14:55] <kenvandine> with the deb i used to have a chromium icon there
[14:56] <oSoMoN> kenvandine, I don't have that indicator here, let me see if I can figure out how to get it
[14:56] <kenvandine> interesting
[15:01] <oSoMoN> kenvandine, while I figure that out, mind filing a bug?
[15:06] <kenvandine>  oSoMoN sure
[15:11] <kenvandine> oSoMoN: it's not an extension... so no idea why it shows up there :)
[15:11] <kenvandine> it shows up there on my laptop too
[15:14] <willcooke> kenvandine, do you have account syncing enabled?  If yes, that might indicate that it's a setting being synced between your machines
[15:14] <tjaalton> didrocks: btw, vulkan-loader security audit (for MIR) is passed
[15:15] <kenvandine> willcooke: indeed
[15:15] <kenvandine> but not sure what setting :)
[15:16] <willcooke> I just went through them.  There doesnt seem to be one :D
[15:16] <kenvandine> i have 3 extensions installed
[15:16] <kenvandine> great suspender, google drive and google calendar
[15:16] <kenvandine> so shouldn't be one of those
[15:16] <kenvandine> and i just confirmed with the deb it does show the icon
[15:17] <kenvandine> so it's a snap only isse
[15:17] <kenvandine> sometimes the empty spot is to the far left, so it isn't noticable
[15:17] <kenvandine> but i can confirm it's there by clicking it
[15:18] <kenvandine> oSoMoN: where should i file the bug?
[15:18] <kenvandine> LP, but against the project or the ubuntu package?
[15:19] <didrocks> tjaalton: yeah, I saw it, can you add the dep/recommends and upload, then ping me, and I'll do the promotion
[15:19]  * kenvandine wishes LP had snap packages :)
[15:21] <oSoMoN> kenvandine, use the ubuntu source package
[15:22] <tjaalton> didrocks: yep will do, thanks!
[15:27] <kenvandine> oSoMoN: bug 1821765
[15:27] <ubot5`> bug 1821765 in chromium-browser (Ubuntu) "snap: Missing icon in indicator" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1821765
[15:28] <oSoMoN> kenvandine, thanks
[15:29] <didrocks> tjaalton: yw! Keep me posted :)
[15:35] <willcooke> kenvandine, oSoMoN - Google searches suggest that the icon might appear if you allow "Background running" for extensions
[15:35] <kenvandine> probably
[15:39] <oSoMoN> I've got that setting on, but no indicator
[15:40] <willcooke> I wonder if you need some specific extensions which use it in order for it to appear.  My guess is Google Drive
[15:43] <willcooke> Adding the "Office editing for docs, sheets and slides" extension makes the "Continue running background apps when Cr. is closed" option appear in Cr. Settings
[15:44] <willcooke> but still no icon
[15:44] <willcooke> or gap where the icon should be
[15:48] <tjaalton> didrocks: ok, xorg uploaded again. actually, mesa-vulkan-drivers was already promoted, but it depends on libvulkan1 which now needs promoting or image builds will fail (again)
[15:49] <didrocks> tjaalton: ok, promoting libvulkan1
[15:53] <didrocks> tjaalton: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/vulkan-loader/+bug/1742711/comments/17
[15:53] <ubot5`> Ubuntu bug 1742711 in vulkan-loader (Ubuntu) "MIR: vulkan-loader" [Undecided,Fix released]
[15:59] <tjaalton> didrocks: rock on :)
[16:00] <didrocks> ;)
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[17:55] <willcooke> Woot.  I think I've got all the wallpapers in.  I will look at that tomorrow
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[18:29] <Eickmeyer> Hey everyone! The Ubuntu Studio team is working on a way to track our packages, and cyphermox pointed out http://people.canonical.com/~platform/desktop/desktop.html exists. Is there a way to make something like that for Ubuntu Studio?
[18:30] <willcooke> Eickmeyer, we can look out the source that generates that page, but it's a pretty simple script with a load of hard coded pages and questionable regexs :)
[18:31] <Eickmeyer> willcooke: Rosco2 is looking at the code now. It can definitely be modified, but we'd need a place for it to be hosted.
[18:31] <willcooke> oh yeah, the link to the source is at the bottom :)
[18:31] <cyphermox> oh, so it is
[18:32] <cyphermox> I went to look at the directory :/
[18:32] <willcooke> I was using google to search launchpad :)
[18:33] <cyphermox> we are the kings or questionable searching :)
[18:33] <willcooke> :D
[18:33] <Eickmeyer> I even go so far as using Bing sometimes. (did I say that out loud? lol)
[18:33] <cyphermox> Eickmeyer: don't make me revoke your upload rights.
[18:33] <Eickmeyer> cyphermox: LOL!
[18:34] <willcooke> Eickmeyer, I guess it could run on the same box as those other reports, but it should be easy enough to run anywhere.  Do you have any other web infra it could live on?  The problem with us hosting it is that if you want a new version making live it could be some time before someone gets round to it
[18:35] <willcooke> it could even upload the  page to some free static hosting thing
[18:35] <Eickmeyer> willcooke: I have a Digital Ocean droplet personally that I run a bot and my Quassel core, but I'm not sure I'd want to use that. If I had access to the server running ubuntustudio.org, that would be ideal, but alas...
[18:38] <willcooke> Eickmeyer, how about:  https://surge.sh/
[18:38] <willcooke> It's awesome
[18:39] <willcooke> you could run the script anywhere, and then just send the html to surge for free hosting
[18:39] <Eickmeyer> willcooke: I didn't know about that. Seems like a good idea.
[18:39] <willcooke> Eickmeyer, see how you get on.  If you are totally stuck, let me know and we can work something out
[18:39] <sarnold> whats the catch? :)
[18:39] <Eickmeyer> willcooke: Thanks!
[18:40] <Eickmeyer> sarnold: That's a good rhetorical point.
[18:40] <willcooke> sarnold, There is *no* catch.  You just hook up your Facebook account and.... oh
[18:40] <Eickmeyer> LOL!
[18:40] <sarnold> hehe :)
[18:40] <cyphermox> Eickmeyer: I suppose you could also ask IS to host the code / run it on the same server that hosts the website
[18:41] <sarnold> aside from the npm, it sure looks really compelling.. and in most circles npm is a plus, not a negative.. heh
[18:41] <cyphermox> it's basically just a crontab that runs once a day, pulls from launchpad for the code and runs it
[18:42] <Eickmeyer> cyphermox: I could, I suppose. Might take a while or eternity, but worth a shot.
[18:43] <willcooke> oh, does it pull every time?  In which case, there wouldnt be a lag between updating it and it going live. But anyways, I think desktop hosting it is sub-optimal
[18:43] <Eickmeyer> We've been trying to update ubuntustudio.org's theme for about 3 years and ran into multiple roadblocks and/or ignores, so that left a bad taste in the team's mouth.
[18:43] <cyphermox> Eickmeyer: I think we can help facilitating that
[18:44]  * Eickmeyer might need to make like Rosco2 and get a bite to eat before he faints
[19:40] <willcooke> night all
[19:51] <oSoMoN> good night