[01:16] <bluesabre> Unit193, xfdesktop uploaded
[01:16] <bluesabre> thanks for the reminders :D
[01:17] <bluesabre> flocculant, probably, but I haven't actually heard
[01:17] <Unit193> Sorry for poking so much..
[01:18] <bluesabre> It's really the only way to get me to do anything
[01:31] -SwissBot:#xubuntu-devel- ::xubuntu-default-settings:: lightdm-gtk-greeter: Default to the Xubuntu desktop wallpaper now that Plymouth is release-agnostic @ http://git.launchpad.net/xubuntu-default-settings/commit/?id=684131dffca689d84d540f05afaadf5acf837e69 (by Sean Davis)
[02:41] <bluesabre> sound good, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xfce4-weather-plugin/+bug/1821662 ?
[02:52] <bluesabre> suppose if we want to trigger a respin, we'll have fresh xfdesktop4 for multi-monitor icons and xubuntu-default-settings for better lightdm bg
[02:53] <bluesabre> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xfwm4/+bug/1796144 is in -proposed for bionic, if folks want to check that out
[02:59] <bluesabre> that's enough for tonight... g'night all
[05:44] <flocculant> bluesabre: ack - just checking if you'd heard of anything I guess - cheers, I will wait a day 
[07:54] <knome> Spass, bluesabre: kind of like the old plymouth one, but a generic one that doesn't have to change with each release
[08:42] -SwissBot:#xubuntu-devel- ::xfce4-announce:: ANNOUNCE: xfce4-whiskermenu-plugin 2.3.2 released @ http://xfce.10915.n7.nabble.com/ANNOUNCE-xfce4-whiskermenu-plugin-2-3-2-released-tp52853.html (by Graeme Gott)
[09:06] <Spass[m]> I think that some older backgrounds could work really well as a generic one for a login screen default, I have my suggestions (for example Plymouth from 15.04, wallpaper from 16.04 or 16.10), but maybe this page from our website will come handy, it's all in one place - https://xubuntu-pl.neocities.org/porady/tapety.html
[09:07] <Spass[m]> that said, simply using "xubuntu-wallpaper.png" is a good solution too
[10:27] <bluesabre> knome, so, some nice gradient-y xubuntu brand color bg, or maybe the ubiquity slideshow background?
[11:05] <bluesabre> lp running into some timeouts :(
[11:13] <bluesabre> there we go, SRU template entered and uploaded for xfce4-weather-plugin (xenial, bionic, cosmic) https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xfce4-weather-plugin/+bug/1821662
[11:51] <knome> bluesabre, i have something drafted
[11:52] <knome> bluesabre, i guess i should finish that off with ochosi, and once that's done, we should probably use it for plymouth too, because why not
[17:57] <flocculant> ochosi: had whiskermenu crash during updates again - not sure if this helps > https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/PKPhTV6YTx/
[22:45] <Spass> I've seen some reports of broken dependencies in Xubuntu (removing mail reader/thunderbird removes xfdesktop), is it a known issue?
[22:49] <Unit193> That's gnome-software being gnome-software, yes it's known.
[22:52] <Spass> ah, that explains it
[22:52] <Spass> gotta love gnome-software
[22:52] <Unit193> It is removeing exo, which is kiiind of needed.
[22:53] <brainwash> the fix was not backported to 18.04 though
[22:53] <brainwash> and looks like several users ran into this problem
[22:54] <Spass> thank you for the information
[22:56] <brainwash> or 18.10
[22:58] <brainwash> only 19.04 has the exo fix
[22:58] <Unit193> 0.12.3 worked around the gnome-software bug (https://git.xfce.org/xfce/exo/tree/NEWS)
[23:01] <brainwash> is it a gnome-software bug?
[23:01] <Unit193> I'd say appstream or gnome-software, personally.  https://git.xfce.org/xfce/exo/commit/?id=ace928e207a4ada02c57e956c675e6d97bd75cf5
[23:02] <brainwash> what could the gnome team have done differently?
[23:03] <Unit193> Dunno, not wasting time on it.
[23:03] <brainwash> exactly
[23:03] <Unit193> Doesn't change anything.
[23:03] <brainwash> only a potential SRU would change something :D
[23:04] <Unit193> Just like how they don't know how to fix https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=750994 properly, they decide it's unfixable.
[23:04] <brainwash> this looks like a candidate
[23:04] <Unit193> https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=348270 notes the workaround, so at least there's that.
[23:06] <Unit193> brainwash: 1821662 and the xfwm sru's are more important, though.
[23:07] <brainwash> no idea
[23:08] <brainwash> the exo one is marked upstream as "critical"