 Welcome!
[18:29] -queuebot:#lubuntu-devel- Builds: Lubuntu Desktop amd64 [Disco Beta] has been marked as ready
 Chris Guiver is the man!
 Yes he is!
 I really appreciate the testing :)
[18:44] <kc2bez> He takes testing to another level, it is awesome indeed.
 For sure
[20:01] <lynorian> tsimonq2: any timetable on when you will be able to get multiple versions of the manual built I have almost finished some of what I think the last things are not documented in 18.10 yet 
 @lynorian [<lynorian> tsimonq2: any timetable on when you will be able to get multiple vers …], I'll take a look tonight
 It shouldn't be difficult at all
[20:02] <lynorian> yeah I know I just don't think I have parts for say how it works on the server
[20:02] <lynorian> I need to get the software sources upgraded for 19.04 along with other stuff
 Yeah, just some nginx fun I think
 @teward001 A single nginx site can have multiple root locations depending on which URL you're visiting, right?
 So e.g. example.com serves /srv/example.com/foo while example.com/bar serves /srv/example.com/bar
[20:08] <wxl> that seems like a good idea.. but how do navigate to the right page? manual.l.m will just have links to the different versions?
[20:09] <wxl> this is why i liked the python-based solution that the sphinx folks implemented
 wxl I am not quite sure how to do that?
[20:10] <wxl> this might be a thing https://robpol86.github.io/sphinxcontrib-versioning/v2.2.1/index.html
[20:12] <wxl> OR
[20:12] <wxl> it seems read the docs does this automatically. we could publish to there and just have manual.l.m point there
[20:13] <wxl> actually that might be the easiest possible solution
[20:13] <wxl> you can just connect to a github account or manually import docs from a git repository
[20:17] <lynorian> wxl that extension doesn't have the bootstrap theme we use
 @tsimonq2 [@teward001 A single nginx site can have multiple root locations depending on whi …], Correct, but whatever is there needs to be aliased to it in order for the URIs to be properly handled
 so depending on what you're trying to do... things could break 😛
 @wxl [<wxl> it seems read the docs does this automatically. we could publish to there …], Does it support Sphinx?
[20:20] <lynorian> yes just not the bootstrap theme
 Are we willing to give up the theme?
 I can change it easily and you choose that one way back when
 True
[20:46] <wxl> oh @lynorian you'll like the fact they build all the formats by default
[20:47] <lynorian> wxl building the format actually isn't quite the problem it is the chapter numbering on pdfs
[20:48] <wxl> we can install a local instance of rtd hmmmm https://docs.readthedocs.io/en/stable/install.html
 oh great another thing to deploy >.>
[20:49] <wxl> well that's one way we could ensure our theme
[20:49] <wxl> redis and elasticsearch are depends
 redis i understand
 ES.... eh
 that's not a tiny thing to deploy that gets huge fast
[20:49] <wxl> it's for the search functionality
[20:50] <wxl> (and next on obvious statements..)
[20:59] <tsimonq2> HEEEEEEEEEEEEEEYA, it's meeting time!
[20:59] <lynorian> hello tsimonq2
 do we include getting the infra back up and running a dev task 😛
[20:59] <tsimonq2> yes @teward001
[20:59] <tsimonq2> k
[20:59] <tsimonq2> so
[20:59] <tsimonq2> I guess lynorian goes first
[20:59] <tsimonq2> :)
[21:00] <teward> so I should stick around then :P
[21:00] <lynorian> ok for the manual I got a lot of work on transmission and K3B on the manual
[21:01] <tsimonq2> teward: yes
[21:01] <lynorian> I did some work on firefox really
[21:03] <lynorian> I did a tiny bit of working on discover and muon
[21:03] <wxl> that's good
[21:04] <lynorian> I also got some work done on vlc playlists
[21:04] <wxl> (an aside: there's a ncurses vlc front end; just run `nvlc`)
[21:05] <lynorian> yes that is not in the manual yet 
[21:05] <wxl> i'm not sure it needs to be, per se, but..
[21:05] <lynorian> yes
[21:08] <lynorian> I think that is it from me 
[21:08] <tsimonq2> ok
[21:08] <tsimonq2> teward goes next because he needs to catch a commute.
[21:08] <teward> assuming we include getting the core infrastructure back up after the fiasco...
[21:08] <tsimonq2> yes
[21:08] <teward> * SSL: Looking into whether it'd be more sane to get a *.lubuntu.me wildcard, but will have to coordinate with Canonical IS as they hold the domain.
[21:08] <teward> * Phabricator: 
[21:08] <teward>   - Phabricator daemons SystemD-ified for autostartup
[21:08] <teward>   - Phab git/SSH daemon SystemD-ified for autostartup
[21:08] <teward> * CI: SSL issues reaching into CI/Lugito/etc., working on investigating syncing the SSL certs around to the containers from the host (with a semi-hackish approach...)
[21:08] <teward> * Security / Updates management: Investigating centralized monitoring/management via Landscape for reasons.
[21:08] <teward> * TODO:
[21:08] <teward>  - Discourse
[21:08] <teward>  - Automate Lugito startup
[21:09] <teward> Been a bit stretched this week because of my FT jobs :P

[21:09] <teward> questions before I dart off, ask now.
[21:09] <tsimonq2> Thanks teward!
[21:10] <tsimonq2> wxl: Go, unless someone has questions :)
[21:10] <lynorian> only thing I notice not being up is irc notifications in lugito
[21:10] <wxl> i don't think i have much actually
[21:10] <tsimonq2> lynorian: Yeah.
[21:10] <wxl> or perhaps anything except a little conversation :/
[21:10] <tsimonq2> No problem wxl :)
[21:12] <wxl> done then
[21:12] <tsimonq2> Alright, who else is here?
[21:12] <kc2bez> I'm here too, nothing to add.
[21:12] <tsimonq2> ok :)
[21:12] <tsimonq2> Thanks!
[21:14] <tsimonq2>  * The Beta is TODAY! Adam is doing it this time, so we have a little bit of breathing room, but it's marked as ready.
[21:14] <tsimonq2>  * RELEASE BLOCKERS AS OF RIGHT NOW:
[21:14] <tsimonq2>    - FDE with Calamares on Secure Boot systems. I have a workaround that I need to confirm and test.
[21:14] <tsimonq2>    - Completion of tests I have in the wiki page below.
[21:14] <tsimonq2>  * Work on infra recovery as usual. I set up Jenkins again, I'm just waiting on teward to do some work with the SSL certs and we'll be golden. Here's the critical things I see that are left:
[21:14] <tsimonq2>    - Completely recovering translations.
[21:14] <tsimonq2>    - Getting our pal Lugito back in here.
[21:14] <tsimonq2>    - CI, and related bits.
[21:14] <tsimonq2>    - Lubot in the Council and Members channels.
[21:14] <tsimonq2>  * I just thought I'd mention that my inspiration for these meetings originally was the Foundations team meetings, and they usually have stuff prepared beforehand and just copy/paste to the channel (like I do). It'd be cool if everyone could do that. It's optional, of course, but it makes this go a lot quicker. :)
[21:14] <tsimonq2>  * I'm all set for LFNW, and I just need to hear back from Canonical about getting the actual money for my SELF tickets. Still in talks with Altispeed to fund a DebConf trip.
[21:14] <tsimonq2>  * Canonical has given Lubuntu preliminary clearance to establish an LLC with the Lubuntu name. I'll be seeing a corporate accountant and a business lawyer after tax season to discuss bootstrapping it. Details to come, I'll talk with the council once Lubot is back so wxl doesn't miss anything.
[21:14] <tsimonq2>  * Closed a few tasks today following uploads I have already done.
[21:14] <tsimonq2>  * I've written a few bits of documentation, eyes welcome: https://phab.lubuntu.me/w/release-team/schedule/ https://phab.lubuntu.me/w/release-team/testing-checklist/
[21:14] <tsimonq2>  * Really week overall, but I'm getting back into the swing of it. Weather has been getting much nicer, thankfully.
[21:14] <tsimonq2> Done.
[21:15] <tsimonq2> Any questions?
[21:15] <wxl> what's the secure boot deal?
[21:15] <lynorian> nice calendar how did you do that?
[21:16] <tsimonq2> wxl: My (untested!) theory is that we can do a little bit of Calamares hacking to allow for contextual partition layouts. From there, we just set it in the config.
[21:16] <wxl> i think it's just a simple table
[21:16] <tsimonq2> ^
[21:16] <tsimonq2> :)
[21:16] <lynorian> cool
[21:16] <wxl> @tsimonq2: did you check with upstream? i could have sworn i saw some rumbling about it in the support channel a while back
[21:16] <tsimonq2> wxl: Yeah.
[21:16] <tsimonq2> crazy_ thinks I'm an idiot, oh well.
[21:17] <tsimonq2> What else is new? :P
[21:17] <wxl> uh
[21:17] <wxl> well perhaps instead of shouting into the channel, maybe ask the folks that will actually listen to you :/
[21:17] <tsimonq2> I'll prioritize writing some code myself.
[21:17] <wxl> also i note #kubuntu-devel was reporting something similar
[21:18] <wxl> perhaps getting them and/or neon to comment on a bug report might help
[21:18] <wxl> s/bug report/github issue/
[21:18] <tsimonq2> Yep.
[21:19] <tsimonq2> I
[21:19] <tsimonq2> ugh
[21:19] <tsimonq2> I'm >< this close to getting a working staging area for next release.
[21:19] <tsimonq2> So if we know Lubuntu 19.04 looks good to go, we can start working on 19.10 via a PPA.
[21:19] <wxl> ooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
[21:20] <tsimonq2> It'll very likely involve bringing back Lubuntu Next.
[21:20] <wxl> oh hell no
[21:20] <tsimonq2> There's support right in ubuntu-cdimage for PPAs.
[21:20] <tsimonq2> wxl: How else do you want to build images? XD
[21:20] <wxl> i just don't ever want to use that name
[21:20] <tsimonq2> Unless teward wants to set something else up... >_>
[21:20] <tsimonq2> hahahahaha
[21:20] <tsimonq2> ok
[21:20] <tsimonq2> wxl: Name suggestion then?
[21:21] <wxl> lubuntu bleeding edge?
[21:21] <tsimonq2> Lubuntu Edge it is
[21:21] <wxl> oh great
[21:21] <wxl> nwo we're a disabled browser
[21:21] <tsimonq2> HAHAHAHA
[21:21] <tsimonq2> ok
[21:21] <tsimonq2> so
[21:21] <wxl> anyways
[21:21] <tsimonq2> It has to be Lubuntu ONEWORD I think
[21:21] <lynorian> not a demon
[21:21] <tsimonq2> Lubuntu Canary?
[21:21] <wxl> hmmmmmm
[21:22] <tsimonq2> I like that
[21:22] <tsimonq2> Objections?
[21:22] <wxl> 1s
[21:23] <wxl> fine
[21:23] <wxl> but it's a blue canary or nothing
[21:23] <tsimonq2> ok XD
[21:23] <wxl> also: any reason why we don't turn that testing checklist into testcases?
[21:25] <tsimonq2> No reason at all.
[21:26] <wxl> k.. probably make them more visible
[21:26] <tsimonq2> I'm suggesting you do that btw XD
[21:26] <wxl> i suspected as such :)
[21:26] <wxl> the base testcases need to be rewritten for calamares anyways
[21:28] <tsimonq2> Right.
[21:39] <wxl> ok so we're done right? XD
[21:39] <tsimonq2> I guess XD
[21:41] <wxl> k love you bye
[21:41] <tsimonq2> <3
 XD
 Hi!
 Hey!
 What's up? :)
 Sorry I'm late
[22:14] <guiverc> o/
 I haven't been able to figure out how to upload the tasks
 I'm not sure I will have enough time to figure it out
 I can give the parsed "backup" to someone that can figure that out
[22:18] <tsimonq2> ok
[22:18] <tsimonq2> I'll do it
[22:19] <tsimonq2> guiverc: heya :)
[22:19] <tsimonq2> guiverc: Thanks for the testing work!
 @tsimonq2 [<tsimonq2> I'll do it], OK, I will send them to you
[22:21] <tsimonq2> Thanks!
[22:41] <guiverc> tsimonq2, if you have other [easy-ish] monkey-stuff i can do, let me know.. (this applies to others too)
[22:43] <wxl> guiverc: that testing checklist
[22:43] <wxl> https://phab.lubuntu.me/w/release-team/testing-checklist/
[22:44] <tsimonq2> ^
[22:44] <guiverc> okay wxl - will work on it (if it was given to me before, sorry I forgot)
[22:45] <wxl> guiverc: not a problem. you're doing amazing work. we are so thankful.
[22:45] <tsimonq2> For sure :)
[23:59] <teward> *throws salt at wxl*
[23:59]  * wxl throws slugs at teward