[01:21] <BadUser> hello?
[01:23] <BadUser> hello?
[01:23] <lynorian> yes BadUser
[01:23] <BadUser> I'm new to linux... looking for some help.
[01:24] <lynorian> BadUser: help on what?
[01:24] <BadUser> getting video card installed.
[01:24] <BadUser> hardinfo says "unknown"
[01:24] <lynorian> what kind and what version of lubuntu?
[01:24] <lynorian> 18.04?
[01:25] <BadUser> yeah i think... maybe 18.10... can't remember this sec.
[01:25] <BadUser> not sure how to look either.
[01:25] <lynorian> 18.10 doesn't have hardinfo
[01:25] <lynorian> by default
[01:25] <BadUser> I've been using windows for 20+ years..
[01:25] <BadUser> I did the sudo getapp hardinfo thing
[01:27] <lynorian> do you have 2048-qt as a game?
[01:27] <lynorian> if so you probablty have 18.10
[01:28] <lynorian> and this will be of use to you if this is true
[01:28] <lynorian> https://manual.lubuntu.me/4/4.3/software_sources.html
[01:28] <BadUser> how to i look for it?  To be honest... Back in like 2001 I had a copy of Redhat gnome, and it was 1000 times easier for me than any new version of linux ive tried.
[01:29] <lynorian> BadUser: 2048-qt would be in games in the menu
[01:29] <BadUser> yes.. its there
[01:30] <BadUser> so under OS in hardinfo:
[01:30] <lynorian> are you completely uncomfortable in the termianl
[01:30] <BadUser> Kernel: Linux 5.0.0.7-generic
[01:30] <lynorian> BadUser: appearantly you have the development version ???
[01:31] <lynorian> unless you upgraded that
[01:31] <BadUser> I'm ok with the terminal if the commands are given to me.. lol
[01:31] <BadUser> I've already broken and reinstalled about 10 times in the past two days
[01:31] <lynorian> BadUser: can you paste the output of lspci
[01:32] <BadUser> and I downloaded whatever the lastest was on the lubuntu site..
[01:32] <BadUser> lspci 00:00.0 Host bridge: Intel Corporation Xeon E3-1200 v5/E3-1500 v5/6th Gen Core Processor Host Bridge/DRAM Registers (rev 02) 00:01.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation Xeon E3-1200 v5/E3-1500 v5/6th Gen Core Processor PCIe Controller (x16) (rev 02) 00:14.0 USB controller: Intel Corporation 100 Series/C230 Series Chipset Family USB 3.0 xHCI Controller (rev 31) 00:14.2 Signal processing controller: Intel Corporation 100 Series/C230 
[01:33] <lynorian> not seeing a graphics card that would need drivers in this output
 BadUser: what's the problem with your graphic card?
[01:34] <BadUser> under hardinfo, for graphics, it just says "unknown"  I have a gtx660 in this system.
[01:34] <BadUser> hardinfo: display: "vendor: Unknown"
 Ok
[01:35] <lynorian> might be a hardinfo problem not recognizing it
 Go to preferences - > software sources
[01:35] <lynorian> are you getting display to the screen?
[01:36] <BadUser> it could be.. I'm not sure how to tell if the driver is installed or not... I went to software: drivers: and selected the nvidia driver, but nothing changed
[01:36] <BadUser> and I have display... I'm using lubuntu right now.
 In software sources go to additional drivers tab
[01:37] <BadUser> thats where i selected the "usining nvidia driver meta...."
 And after the search has ended it would be good to see what appears
[01:38] <BadUser> and the bottom says
[01:38] <BadUser> "1 proprietary driver in use"
 If Nvidia is the only proprietary you have, then it's ok
[01:39] <BadUser> so then Hardinfo is probably just wrong?
 Could be, I'm not sure how it works
[01:40] <lynorian> BadUser: probably
[01:40] <BadUser> lol.. me neither
 But I'm sure how additional driver tab works
[01:40] <lynorian> although could be lspci not showing it that therefore hardinfo doesn't show it
 I know there is another way to see it in the terminal, but I'm on my phone now and don't remember how it is
[01:42] <BadUser> well... So 1st thing i did was download the linux driver from nvidia which was a .run file..  It wouldn't run so I googled how to force it, and made it run.. Then it complained because of some other video driver.. So I disabled that. ran it again.  Then did a bunch of Sudo get-update commands and about 5 others that i can't remember..
[01:44] <BadUser> long story..  nvidia418 is showing up under "additional drivers" tab and thats whats selected now, but i'm worried I broke it by doing the other stuff..
 Aaaaa, you might have conflicts, there is no need to do that in *Ubuntu it has Nvidia drivers
 Type in terminal
 ubuntu-drivers
[01:46] <BadUser> "ubuntu-drivers" gives me a usage error... It needs an argument behind it like -h or something
[01:47] <BadUser> i did ubuntu-drivers list
 Then try … ubuntu-drivers devices
[01:47] <BadUser> I get Nvidia-driver-418, nvidia-driver-396 and 3 more
 Is there one in bold?
[01:47] <BadUser> ~$ ubuntu-drivers devices == /sys/devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:01.0/0000:01:00.0 == modalias : pci:v000010DEd000011C0sv00003842sd00002662bc03sc00i00 vendor   : NVIDIA Corporation model    : GK106 [GeForce GTX 660] driver   : nvidia-driver-396 - third-party free driver   : nvidia-driver-390 - distro non-free driver   : nvidia-340 - distro non-free driver   : nvidia-driver-415 - third-party free driver   : nvidia-driver-418 - distro no
[01:48] <BadUser> nothing in bold
 There is one that says "recommended"?
[01:50] <BadUser> Let me ask this... Is there a version of linux that's closer to windows?  Like with a control panel?  or something where i can install things from the gui rather then CLI?
[01:50] <BadUser> and yes... Nvidia-driver-418 says distro non-free recommended
[01:51] <BadUser> thats the one selected under the "additional drivers" tab
 @BadUser [<BadUser> thats the one selected under the "additional drivers" tab], Then it's ok
[01:52] <BadUser> ok... well.. Let me find a game of some kind, and see if i can install it and play it... Any Ideas?
[01:53] <BadUser> something free that uses the video card?
[01:54] <BadUser> for 3D.. like opengl or something... I know everything uses the videocard. lol
[01:57] <BadUser> ok... HOW do I fix this?
[01:57] <BadUser> ANYTHING I download and try to open, opens in ARK...
[01:57] <BadUser> *.run or *.deb
[01:58] <BadUser> I just downloaded steam for linux and its a .deb file, but won't launch like an installer... should it?
 Try right clicking on it and opening with Discover.
[02:01] <BadUser> i had to Right Click and say open with QApt installer
 That works too. I forgot we have that now.
 You can search for software in muon as well. I think the Steam installer is in there.
[02:02] <BadUser> what is  moun
 In the menu under system tools —> muon package manager
[02:03] <BadUser> and what is all this?  It looks like gibierish to me.. lol
 It is an easier way to search for software, somewhat like a software store.
 The categories at the left are for types of software or if you know what you are looking for (i.e. Steam) you can type that in the search box at the top.
[02:05] <BadUser> one of the other linux i tried had a software store that was really easy to use..
[02:06] <BadUser> in this i'm seeing : "Asterick-core-sounds-en-gsm" and stuff like it
 Discover is easier in some ways but it can be more resource intensive.
[02:07] <BadUser> This system has a core i7-7700 with 8gb ddr4.. And an SSD.. Resources are barely being touched right now..
[02:07] <BadUser> I
 For reference here is a link to our muon page in the manual: https://manual.lubuntu.me/4/4.2/muon.html
 Discover should be good then.
[02:08] <BadUser> I'm trying to learn linux.. I don't care if it slows down as long as it makes things easier until i get the hang of it.
 Here is a link to that: https://manual.lubuntu.me/4/4.1/discover.html
 It sounds like you are on your way so far, we all start somewhere.
[02:09] <BadUser> I'm on my way.. Down the rabbit hole. lol...
 :)
[02:10] <BadUser> What's so hard for me, Its two things... 1) My Ego!!! I've been an MCSE tech since win2000.  Been using windows since the 3.1days
[02:11] <BadUser> 2nd) Its because I've been using windows for 20+ years... I just know where things are, and I have NOTHING to relate to in linux..
[02:12] <BadUser> I built a Hackintosh too.. LOL  A Monkey with his football looks more prepared than I. lol
[02:13] <BadUser> Then, the big problem is::: WHAT DO I DO WITH IT????  IDK what I could do in Linux that I can't in Windows..
 Give it a little time, I think it will come to you.
[02:15] <BadUser> So let me ask you a question... Do you do any programming?
 Not really a program creator per say but I can follow along with some.
[02:16] <BadUser> I'll tell you what I want to do... I'm really a hardware guy.. I fix boards on a componient level.. Like desolder, resolder when they go bad...
 That is probably more in my wheelhouse too. It is where my formal education lies.
[02:17] <BadUser> And I want to learn how to write motherboard BIOS's... maybe just modify at first, but eventually learn and write FULL aftermarket computer BIOS's.. With more features.
[02:18] <BadUser> your formal EDU is in?
 BIOS is a tough one. Those are pretty locked down I think.
 Electrical Engineering Technology
[02:19] <BadUser> Bios are only 1/2 locked... If you see, ppl mod bios already... Like added support for I7-gen8's to the z270 chipsets...
[02:19] <BadUser> Thats part of it...
[02:20] <BadUser> I want to make a company that offers aftermarket bios's for a bunch of different boards, that will "Turn-on" software locked features.
[02:21] <BadUser> or if you rembmer 4 years ago, Gigabyte, Asus, asrock.. All had a bios that allowed overclocking on NON-Z chipsets, then on Non-K cpu's... It was all pulled when intel found out, but the bios is still out there.
[02:21] <BadUser> I'm sure if you could take the existing bios, add back in some of those features, like non-k overclocking and such, ppl would buy your "Aftermarket" bios/
[02:23] <BadUser> and A LOT of the Hex / Bios editors i've seen are linux based.. So I need a linux machine I can use..
 <kc2bez>: where are you from?
 I am from the US. Makes sense that people would be interested. I don't want to carry the conversation too far off-topic here in the support channel though. If you have any more Lubuntu questions please let us know.
[02:25] <BadUser> I may shortly... I'm working on installing steam, then i'll give some of those games a try... I'll let you know how it goes in a min
 I am signing off for the night but there may be someone else around. Good luck and nice chatting with you.
 Steam should work ok on a 660
[02:38] <BadUser> Alrighty... Thanks for your help and good night
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[12:07] <jack4> hi guys, I installed lubuntu 18.10 from live DVD, but I cannot boot without live DVD it shows a white screen and a cursor I can move
[12:07] <jack4> I tried to enable wifi dongle but it cannot be enabled
[12:08] <jack4> I tried updates from liveDVD but after shutting down all updates are lost
[12:08] <jack4> I would like to enable wifi dongle from command line and try updates
[12:09] <jack4> but it cannot be enabled
[12:20] <jack4> i tried to enable wifi from command line interface
[12:20] <jack4> but it cannot be enabled
[12:21] <jack4> what should I do?
[12:31] <jack4> I want to boot from live dvd but later install permanent updates to my pc how can I do this?
[12:32] <jack4> whenever I try to install permanent updates it says read only
[12:33] <jack4> If I boot without live dvd it boots to a white screen
[12:33] <jack4> and I cannot do anything
[12:34] <jack4> I am stuck and I dont know how to continue
[12:39] <jack4> anyone has lubuntu 18.10 to an old laptop?
[12:51] <jack4> hi taunix
[12:52] <jack4> do you have lubuntu 18.10 in old laptop?
[12:53] <taunix> hi jack4 simply hardware
[12:55] <taunix> the suspend mode, was on, is just off
[12:55] <jack4> tauinx I installed lubuntu 18.10 to an old laptop and cannot boot without live DVD
[12:55] <jack4> if I boot with live DVD it boots ok
[12:56] <jack4> but without live DVD shows a white screen
[12:56] <jack4> and I can move cursor
[12:56] <jack4> but only a white screen
[12:56] <jack4> I tried to enable wifi dongle
[12:56] <jack4> and I could not
[12:56] <jack4> how to fix this white screen
[12:57] <jack4> it says lubuntu is installed on pc
[12:57] <taunix> i never hve this bug
[12:58] <jack4> I use command line and it works with ctrl alt f4
[12:58] <taunix> im boot the live system from usb-drive
[12:58] <jack4> but if I go to ctrl alt f1 shows white screen
[12:58] <jack4> instead of live usb-drive I use live dvd
[12:59] <jack4> it is the same I think
[13:27] <walterwoj> hello! I there a better user management tool I can install?  I can't see any if the user privileges in the default user management tool provided.  I'm trying to lock a install down for use as a web kiosk and want to take away everything that isn't needed