[00:03] <noregret> why is the enp0s25 interface still getting configured with dhcp? https://bpaste.net/show/7dcf76d4da37
[00:04] <noregret> oh, i see dhcp set to true in 50-cloud-init.yaml, should I remove it from there? or change it to no? I thought the other yaml overrides taht one.. sorry still new to that kind of network config
[00:06] <qwebirc24999> alright, so if I manually fix the DNS I now get a curl 60 error (SSL certificate problem: unabel to get local issuer certificate). I have the certificates in /etc/ssl/certs. What is wrong?
[00:07] <Platonides> you probably don't have them properly there
[00:07] <qwebirc24999> the same config works on 18.04, that's what I find baffling.
[00:07] <qwebirc24999> and yet not on .10
[00:07] <Platonides> I understand it is not a public CA?
[00:07] <qwebirc24999> oh it is
[00:07] <Platonides> did you run c_rehash?
[00:07] <qwebirc24999> Let's Encrypt
[00:07] <qwebirc24999> what is c_rehash
[00:08] <Platonides> then you don't need to touch anything at /etc/ssl/certs
[00:08] <Platonides> just having ca-certificates package installed should do
[00:08] <Platonides> it's a different issue, then
[00:08] <Platonides> is the server sending the intermediate?
[00:08] <qwebirc24999> let me check if I have that package installed, actually, you might be onto something.
[00:09] <qwebirc24999> also what do you mean by intermediate
[00:09] <qwebirc24999> apache has all the needed .pems as requested by certbot
[00:09] <Platonides> there is the CA certificate
[00:09] <Platonides> it doesn't sign directly the final certificate
[00:10] <Platonides> it signs an intermediate CA
[00:10] <Platonides> which is the one doing the end-certificate
[00:10] <qwebirc24999> yep, ca-certificates is installed and is the newest version
[00:10] <Platonides> the server needs to provide the intermediate certificate along its own one
[00:10] <Platonides> try checking your site with https://www.ssllabs.com
[00:10] <qwebirc24999> and the hook copies /etc/ssl to /etc/
[00:11] <Platonides> if it's this issue it will flag it very clearly
[00:11] <qwebirc24999> nah, I get that error on literally any https website
[00:11] <qwebirc24999> google, whatever, you name it
[00:11] <qwebirc24999> it's a local issue
[00:11] <Platonides> start by fixing google, then :P
[00:12] <qwebirc24999> sure would fix their financing to myself haha
[00:12] <qwebirc24999> jokes aside though, any ideas
[00:12] <Platonides> curl depends on libcurl3, that itself depends on libssl
[00:12] <Platonides> and if you have ca-certificates installed
[00:12] <Platonides> everything should be on place
[00:13] <Platonides> hmm
[00:13] <Platonides> does wget also fail?
[00:13] <qwebirc24999> wget in initramfs straight up doesn't support https
[00:13] <qwebirc24999> blame busybox for that
[00:13] <qwebirc24999> (I could copy the binary I guess but no point imo)
[00:13] <Platonides> are you running that on an initramfs?
[00:13] <qwebirc24999> yes
[00:14] <qwebirc24999> I am getting the error on initramfs
[00:14] <qwebirc24999> inside the system itself - all good
[00:14] <Platonides> ok I hadn't seen the earlier lines
[00:14] <Platonides> you had all dependencies on the initramfs, then?
[00:15] <qwebirc24999> 99% sure I've got everything I need there
[00:15] <qwebirc24999> cause it works on 18.04, I don't see why it shouldn't on .10
[00:15] <qwebirc24999> but it just don't
[00:16] <Platonides> on /etc/ssl/22
[00:16] <Platonides> you have a file /etc/ssl/certs/2e5ac55d.0 there ?
[00:16] <qwebirc24999> yes
[00:18] <Platonides> it must be something quite silly
[00:18] <Platonides> but may take hours to find :(
[00:18] <qwebirc24999> should be :/
[00:20] <Platonides> good luck
[00:20] <qwebirc24999> i guess you're out of ideas? :D
[00:20] <Platonides> probably worth describing the steps needed on a blog post
[00:20] <qwebirc24999> to reproduce the issue?
[00:20] <Platonides> perhaps installing strace there and getting dirty
[00:21] <Platonides> look at curl and libcurl changelog
[00:21] <Platonides> if anything there rings a bell
[00:23] <qwebirc24999> will check it
[00:23] <qwebirc24999> thanks
[00:30] <Brainiack> yo yo yo
[00:40] <InvertedJesus> How do I make caja save thumbnails?
[00:53] <qwebirc58069> Yello
[01:07] <qwebirc24999> does anyone know how to get curl with https running for 18.10
[01:09] <leftyfb> qwebirc24999: what error are you getting?
[01:09] <qwebirc24999> 60
[01:09] <qwebirc24999> even though I have the certs in /etc/ssl/certs
[01:09] <qwebirc24999> this is getting absurd
[01:09] <qwebirc24999> ._."
[01:10] <leftyfb> qwebirc24999: can you pastebin what you are trying and the error message? (mind you, this isn't really an ubuntu problem)
[01:13] <OerHeks> c_rehash
[01:14] <qwebirc24999> leftyfb https://pastebin.com/11KszAxh
[01:14] <qwebirc24999> the error: curl: (60) certificate problem: unable to get local issuer certificate
[01:15] <qwebirc24999> https://i.imgur.com/PSmdKQg.png
[01:15] <qwebirc24999> the certificates are in /etc/ssl/certs and are updated
[01:15] <leftyfb> oh, this is still your initramfs stuff. Why are you messing with initramfs btw?
[01:16] <qwebirc24999> well, it's needed for one setup I have for a project that remotely retrieves the encryption password on successful login
[01:16] <qwebirc24999> and it's done using curl
[01:16] <leftyfb> what's the point? You can disable it booting by killing off the remote file?
[01:17] <qwebirc24999> that's part of it, I guess
[01:17] <leftyfb> qwebirc24999: do you have openssl and all it's required libraries added to your initramfs?
[01:18] <qwebirc24999> now that is a good question
[01:18] <qwebirc24999> how do I do that
[01:18] <qwebirc24999> becausefind / -name "*openssl*" shows only /etc/ssl/openssl.cnf
[01:18] <leftyfb> qwebirc24999: to be honest, this is something I ran into recently as well and just went with -k for now since it's on a private network.
[01:18] <qwebirc24999> -k would piss off the team though, so gotta make it the right way
[01:19] <leftyfb> qwebirc24999: I started with using strace to find all the things that curl opens
[01:19] <qwebirc24999> I assume I need to integrate strace into the hook too right
[01:20] <leftyfb> qwebirc24999: you don't need to do it within initramfs. Do it on a machine where it works to see what it needs
[01:24] <leftyfb> qwebirc24999: strace curl -q https://google.com 2>&1 |awk -F'"' '/open/ {print $2}'|sort -u
[01:24] <qwebirc24999> thanks
[01:25] <leftyfb> qwebirc24999: let me know if you get it working. It would be good to get it going on my end as well
[01:40] <qwebirc24999> leftyfb no idea for now, gonna leave it as is for the night
[01:40] <qwebirc24999> thanks for the advice though really appreciate it
[01:41] <leftyfb> qwebirc24999: might I  suggest registering a nick? It goes a long way here when looking for help.
[01:41] <qwebirc24999> also interestingly enough got some problems with configure_networking
[01:42] <qwebirc24999> but those aren't even the main problem haha
[01:42] <qwebirc24999> and I have the nick umhello
[01:42] <qwebirc24999> that's the one I am identified as
[01:43] <qwebirc24999> I think I'll go sleep now
[01:43] <leftyfb> qwebirc24999: try /nick umhello
[01:43] <qwebirc24999> goodnight!
[01:43] <umhello> I'll report back if I manage to solve it
[01:43] <leftyfb> ok
[01:59] <qwebirc96098> leftyfb hey
[01:59] <qwebirc96098> I have progress!!
[01:59] <leftyfb> I had progress as well, but it still didn't work in the end
[01:59] <qwebirc96098> https://github.com/kayrus/rescue-initramfs/blob/master/initramfs_hook.sh
[02:00] <qwebirc96098> check this script
[02:00] <leftyfb> I forget where I left off
[02:00] <qwebirc96098> I removed some unnecessary parts in the beginning
[02:00] <qwebirc96098> and left all from line 22 to 48
[02:00] <qwebirc96098> and added it as a hook
[02:00] <qwebirc96098> now it actually works with https!!
[02:00] <leftyfb> nice
[02:00] <qwebirc96098> the only problem I now have left is
[02:00] <leftyfb> i'll have to try that tomorrow
[02:01] <qwebirc96098> configure_networking and DNS
[02:01] <qwebirc96098> but that I will solve somehow
[02:01] <qwebirc96098> at least this is solved :)
[02:01] <qwebirc96098> now I'm gonna sleep for real
[02:01] <qwebirc96098> have a good night mate
[02:01] <leftyfb> cya
[04:03] <the2048> So anything go on last I disconnected and reconnected?
[04:06] <krytarik> !logs | the2048
[04:06] <the2048> Fair
[04:07] <the2048> I'll check that once I've finished flashing something with dd
[04:07] <krytarik> And they've just been updated at the full hour btw.
[04:09]  * the2048 nods
[04:41] <plongshot> I just installed umlet through the command line (sudo apt install umlet) and it does not show up in the (menu??) -  when you press the window key and get to seee your desktop - you can enter a search term into the feild to search for an app.  When I search for umlet it does not show up in the results but I can launch the program from the command line by typing "umlet <enter>"
[04:41] <plongshot> Can anyone assist?
[04:44] <plongshot> where are the .desktop files? In /usr/share  or something like that?
[04:48] <monojamoon|> Ubuntu has a setting in it's power options to Dim Screen when Inactive. How can I alter the threshold to inactivity? The screen dims way too quickly.
[05:00] <guiverc> plongshot, you haven't said what release of Ubuntu you are on, but if using Unity (14.04, 16.04 or later though not default later) see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UnityLaunchersAndDesktopFiles
[05:04] <beezy> wut
[05:09] <king_> hey
[05:10] <king_> who is here
[05:10] <king_> ?
[05:10] <king_> drone
[05:10] <king_> who is here ?
[05:15] <beezy> me me meee
[05:24] <dev> you tube
[07:56] <dsg_> OOM is invoked by the kernel or by the jvm?
[08:01] <ducasse> dsg_: the kernel
[08:43] <qwebirc40798> Help!
[08:44] <qwebirc40798> I recently installed Unity desktop from command: sudo apt install ubuntu-unity-desktop
[08:47] <gnomethrower> qwebirc40798: and what happened?
[08:56] <sonOfRa> gnomethrower: now he has unity installed! Can you imagine the horror?!
[08:56] <gnomethrower> sonOfRa: ;)
[09:00] <mase-tech> are quests about ubuntu-mate allowed here?
[09:02] <lxsameer> hey folks, does ubuntu 18.04 runs on wayland ?
[09:03] <teemo> nope, Xorg
[09:03] <blackflow> mase-tech: questions might be, quests not sure :)
[09:03] <blackflow> lxsameer: wayland session is available yes, but not default.
[09:03] <teemo> Well I remember reading an article saying they were dropping wayland. I'm not actually 100% sure if they did...
[09:04] <blackflow> teemo: as _default_ only.
[09:04] <lxsameer> blackflow: ok the thanks
[09:04] <teemo> makes sense blackflow
[09:43] <root_> 111
[09:56] <GSrider1994> Hello, i've got a problem with ubuntu on my laptop, can someone provide support?
[09:57] <teemo> Don't ask to ask - Just ask your actual question (giving as much detail as possible), and wait. You may need to be patient.
[09:57] <GSrider1994> ok
[10:02] <mohnish> I get this error when I run "sudo apt update" https://pastebin.com/bXKAcRhH
[10:02] <GSrider1994> I've got a Toshiba Satellite C660 and bought a ssd for it (i3 380M and Radeon HD5470), i've installed there both Ubuntu, other distros and Windows 7/10 for testing. The ubuntu based distros take like 2minutes to start other Operating systems only take like 10 seconds, how can i fix the long bootup time? (sry for bad english)
[10:03] <teemo> mohnish: run the following command to add the missing key: sudo apt-key adv --keyserver keyserver.ubuntu.com --recv-keys 01ECAA19EC33CA14
[10:04] <teemo> mohnish: in future, add PPAs using the "add-apt-repository" command, rather than editing sources files directly.
[10:05] <mohnish> teemo: okay
[10:06] <mohnish> teemo: Executing: /tmp/apt-key-gpghome.MziIz7JJft/gpg.1.sh --keyserver keyserver.ubuntu.com --recv-keys 01ECAA19EC33CA14
[10:06] <mohnish> gpg: keyserver receive failed: Server indicated a failure
[10:06] <mohnish> I get this error
[10:07] <tga0> greetings. anyone here on a thinkpad (t450s or similar) with suspend wake up issues?
[10:08] <tga0> my screen doesn't turn on on wake up but I can't track down a recent issue and certainly not a solution
[10:20] <teemo> mohnish: try this, explicitly setting port 80: sudo apt-key adv --keyserver hkp://keyserver.ubuntu.com:80 --recv-keys 01ECAA19EC33CA14
[10:21] <mohnish> temo: It works now, Thank You!
[10:21] <mohnish> teemo: It works now, Thank You!
[10:22] <teemo> http://i.imgur.com/W69MwW7.gif
[10:23] <mohnish> teemo: LOL, Thank You
[10:28] <teemo> tga0: I have a t470, let me see if I have the issue. What Ubuntu version are you running?
[10:30] <teemo> tga0: it worked fine, is it the laptop screen that doesn't come on after wakeup? or an external one?
[10:30] <teemo> tga0: maybe it's some bios setting where you can specify the level of suspend?
[10:33] <GSrider1994> Noone able to answer my question?
[10:45] <tga0> teemo: t450s here, after screen off the screen doesn't come back on, but the machine is running. suspend and resume work ok.
[10:45] <tga0> interesting thing: if I plug in an external display, the lcd also turns on
[10:46] <ducasse> GSrider1994: what do you mean by 'ubuntu based distros'? which ones?
[10:46] <tga0> so I'm trying to figure out what exactly turns it off and how to make it either not do it or resume properly
[10:46] <tga0> ubuntu mate btw
[10:53] <teemo> tga0: also on Ubuntu MATE here, but working just fine. Are you sure it's suspending? On these Thinkpad models the power button will pulse/flash when suspended.
[10:53] <l0UNGEuser> Hi
[10:53] <l0UNGEuser> Could someone help me with a python script ?
[10:54] <teemo> l0UNGEuser: you should /join #python for support
[10:54] <l0UNGEuser> I'am not registered to join
[10:55] <tga0> teemo: definitely not suspended, because I can ssh in
[10:55] <l0UNGEuser> Using this https://github.com/goya191/SimpleAuthServerSSL.py/blob/master/SimpleHttpsAuthServer.py I get this error : https://zerobin.net/?1c768b9a5daf7623#tRrC7a4+cOmHsT0VEE8yJciK/aYCyd80uWqVZcujtgc=
[10:55] <tga0> teemo: after a while it turns the screen off, and it doesn't come back on unless I plug in an external screen
[10:55] <ducasse> l0UNGEuser: then register now?
[10:55] <tga0> teemo: this makes it hard to debug to
[10:56] <teemo> You need to register to talk in #python, and you need to ask your Python question in #python not here. You can register like this: /msg nickserv register password email - join #freenode for more help, or /msg nickserv help register
[10:56] <tga0> I'm thinking my monitor issue may have to do with dpms
[10:57] <teemo> tga0: I mean, when you go power -> suspend, does it correctly suspend at that point? (Regardless of any issues after wakeup)
[10:58] <tga0> teemo: yes, I can suspend and wake up without problems
[10:59] <tga0> teemo: if the laptop is unused for 10? minutes though the screen goes black and doesn't come back on even after the machine resumes
[10:59] <tga0> I'm thinking it may have to do with the display settings, when docked I turn off the laptop display
[11:00] <tga0> teemo: any idea how one can change the mate display settings from the console?
[11:00] <teemo> fwiw l0UNGEuser the code in your first link doesn't seem to make sense - all that stuff from line 57 onwards shouldn't be indented to be part of the "if len(sys.argv)<3:" block
[11:00] <teemo> looks like it was uploaded to github once, in 2016, and never fixed.
[11:02] <teemo> Not sure about that... I wonder, are you using noveaue driver? If so, try to edit the file /etc/default/grub and add nouveau.modeset=0 to the line that says GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX="" - then save the file and run "sudo update-grub" and reboot
[11:02] <teemo> tga0: ^
[11:02] <tga0> isn't nouveau for nvidia stuff?
[11:02] <teemo> yeah but some of these thinkpad models have nvidia graphics
[11:02] <tga0> nah, intel here
[11:03] <tga0> intel hd 5500 only
[11:07] <teemo> l0UNGEuser: the original author mixed tabs and spaces, try this: rory.sh/SimpleHttpsAuthServer.py
[11:12] <dsg_> what is the difference between cpu load and cpu utilization
[11:14] <teemo> Load average is a measurement of how many tasks are waiting in a kernel run queue (not just CPU time but also disk activity) over a period of time. CPU utilization is a measure of how busy the CPU is right now.
[11:14] <teemo> It's a bit of a rabbit hole dsg_ but you could read this https://estl.tech/cpu-usage-vs-load-ecca22287b21
[11:23] <tarzeau> that's also a great read: http://www.brendangregg.com/blog/2017-08-08/linux-load-averages.html
[11:30] <BluesKaj> Howdy folks
[11:38] <Industrial> Somehow my /proc/sys/fs/inotify/max_user_watches keeps being reset
[11:38] <Industrial> this is very annoying for development
[11:38] <Industrial> Android Studio with React Native won't even run an app, tells me the number is too low.
[11:39] <leftyfb> Industrial: did you change it in sysctl.conf?
[11:41] <Industrial> I did now, does changing that file change the amount immediately or after a reboot?
[11:41] <Industrial> leftyfb: ^
[11:43] <leftyfb> Industrial: after reboot
[11:43] <leftyfb> Industrial: or run sudo systctl -p
[11:43] <leftyfb> Industrial: or run sudo sysctl -p
[11:45] <Industrial> thanks :-)
[11:46] <alexhalfpipe> q
[11:46] <alexhalfpipe> woops sorry
[11:58] <qwebirc78325> greetings comrades
[11:59] <qwebirc78325> is there a way to start GSConnect from the terminal? i'm trying to get GSConnect to appear in tray for i3gnome, but no luck so far
[12:02] <drack0> hai
[12:03] <drack0> ??
[12:03] <BluesKaj> hi drack0
[12:04] <qwebirc78325> oi
[12:04] <drack0> hai
[12:04] <clarkk> Is there any way to stop the appmenu from showing the full title of the window?  For chrome in particular, it's taking up too much space
[12:04] <drack0> ada orang indo kah ???
[12:05] <qwebirc78325> @clarkk, you can just use some other window manager to be fair, but you can try to check the settings with 'sudo apt install gnome-tweaks'
[12:05] <qwebirc78325> it's a gui app that allows you to change things around the way windows look and behave
[12:05] <BluesKaj> !id | drack0
[12:06] <drack0> sip
[12:06] <qwebirc78325> in any case, anybody runs i3wm?...
[12:07] <qwebirc78325> i'm having a terrible time trying to get GSConnect to work
[12:08] <drack0> does anyone use windows 10 here ???
[12:10] <qwebirc78325> @drack0, nope
[12:12] <drack0> do you use ubuntu new version ??? @qwebirc78325
[12:12] <qwebirc78325> @drack0 i'm currently on ubuntu 18.10
[12:14] <clarkk> qwebirc78325, thanks for the response. I have been using gnome-tweaks and some extensions for a long time, but suddenly this has become a problem
[12:15] <qwebirc78325> @clarkk, welp i might suggest you to try KDE Plasma as a WM
[12:15] <drack0> do you use gnome ???
[12:16] <qwebirc78325> you can install it on ubuntu in a matter of few minutes
[12:16] <qwebirc78325> you can customize kde more than gnome
[12:17] <drack0> how about cinnamon ???
[12:19] <qwebirc78325> @drack0, to be fair i've tried a ton of different WMs, and i've stuck with i3wm for the last 3 years
[12:20] <qwebirc78325> but this isn't a DE i would recommend to use for somebody who's not used to terminals
[12:20] <qwebirc78325> as it lacks GUI to configure
[12:21] <qwebirc78325> and the fact that it's a tiling one
[12:21] <tga0> xfwm is decent too, nothing special but simple and solid
[12:22] <qwebirc78325> tga0 are configs in python?
[12:24] <tga0> qwebirc78325: no, plain config files I think
[12:25] <qwebirc78325> tga0, have you tried to run GSConnect in xfwm?
[12:26] <tga0> mmnope, sorry
[12:26] <qwebirc78325> awwww
[12:28] <BluesKaj> qwebirc78325, does the target have GSConnect orkdeconnect installed too?
[12:29] <qwebirc78325> yeah
[12:29] <qwebirc78325> the issue is i'm on i3 gnome and have no idea how to start gsconnect from the terminal
[12:31] <qwebirc78325> BluesKai
[12:42] <BluesKaj> qwebirc78325, run GSConnect-cli in the shell for some commands
[12:43] <l2655198323> 1
[12:43] <qwebirc78325> BluesKaj thanks, will try!
[12:43] <l2655198323> ?
[12:43] <l2655198323> hello?
[12:43] <BluesKaj> yes?
[13:11] <bear__> 有用中文的吗？
[13:38] <IcusDicus> Hello
[13:39] <EriC^> hi
[14:07] <Badboys17> halli
[14:07] <Badboys17> hallo
[14:07] <Badboys17> hallo
[14:07] <Badboys17> hallo
[14:07] <Badboys17> hi
[14:08] <willksm> hello?
[14:08] <Badboys17> who are you?
[14:08] <Badboys17> ops
[14:10] <BluesKaj>  this is ubuntu support, do you have a question?
[14:10] <Badboys17> hello
[14:10] <Badboys17> willksm
[14:10] <Badboys17> yes
[14:11] <Badboys17> hello
[14:12] <Badboys17> i no have question
[14:12] <BluesKaj> !chitchat
[14:21] <ObJect1v> hi all
[14:24] <cd_233> p
[14:25] <asda> hello
[14:25] <cd_233> hello
[14:25] <leftyfb> This is a support channel. What can we help you with?
[14:25] <asda> I am using Ubuntu Mate and I need some help about installing opera browser
[14:26] <ObJect1v> you can install it from application store
[14:26] <ObJect1v> as I know
[14:26] <asda> and I am operating Mate in Raspberry Pi 3
[14:27] <cd_233> where are you guys?
[14:27] <lotuspsychje> !chat | cd_233
[14:28] <cd_233> What?
[14:28] <MonkeyDust> hi lotuspsychje
[14:28] <lotuspsychje> hey MonkeyDust :p
[14:29] <leftyfb> asda: opera in not available on Ubuntu for the pi ... yet.
[14:29] <leftyfb> cd_233: This is a support channel. If you want to chat, go to #ubuntu-offtopic
[14:29] <asda> thank you leftyfb
[14:29] <cd_233> where are you guys?
[14:30] <leftyfb> cd_233: please stop asking. Go to #ubuntu-offtopic for chatting. This channel is only for support questions.
[14:30] <MonkeyDust> cd_233: what is your own language?
[14:30] <asda> see you guys, thanks for replies and help
[14:30] <BluesKaj> where we are doesn't matter...we're from all over the world
[14:31] <leftyfb> !in | cd_233
[14:31] <leftyfb> bah
[14:31] <leftyfb> they're from Indonesia
[14:31] <ObJect1v> #ubuntu-offtopic
[14:31] <MonkeyDust> !id
[14:31] <leftyfb> ObJect1v: /join #ubuntu-offtopic
[14:31] <leftyfb> !id | cd_233
[14:31] <cd_233> saya orang indonesia
[14:33] <cd_233> do you have WhatsApp
[14:33] <cd_233> do you have WhatsApp
[14:33] <leftyfb> cd_233: Silakan ke # ubuntu-offtopic untuk mengobrol. Ini adalah saluran dukungan hanya untuk pencarian pendukung. Berhenti bertanya dari mana kita berasal atau media sosial apa yang kita gunakan.
[14:34] <cd_233> siap leftyfb
[14:35] <cd_233> quit
[14:35] <leftyfb> cd_233: /quit
[14:38] <ballison> I'm running gnome classic (metacity) and i've got a weird bug.  Whenever i add a new menu item to the top menu (like terminal for example) it also adds an additional System Tools menu to the menu bar.
[14:39] <ballison> https://pasteboard.co/I7wtum1.png
[14:39] <ballison> notice how i now have -2- gears for "Systems Tools" in my menu bar
[14:40] <ballison> how do i remove them?
[14:41] <leftyfb> ballison: I think it's hold shift or CTRL and right-click to delete
[14:41] <leftyfb> ballison: how are you adding an item?
[14:41] <leftyfb> ballison: also, what version of ubuntu?
[14:42] <ballison> Option+Right click > Add to Panel  .   Version 18
[14:42] <ballison> 18.10
[14:42] <ballison> boom that worked!
[14:42] <ballison> Option+Right CLick > Remove from panel.  so easy.
[14:42] <ballison> thanks!
[14:43] <MonkeyDust> leftyfb: +1
[14:44] <willksm> This chat can be comedy gold
[14:55] <Taesh> I'm running Ubuntu 18.04 on a Lenovo Ideapad 530s-14ARR, and the touchpad isn't working.
[14:55] <rory> hi Taesh first of all are you sure the touchpad is enabled in the BIOS settings (laptop boot menu "press enter to interrupt normal boot") ?
[14:56] <rory> Taesh: (maybe it used to work in Windows)
[14:57] <Taesh> I'm fairly sure. I can double check, but I don't think there is such an option in the BIOS.
[14:57] <rory> Taesh: Has it always been broken? Or did it used to work in the past?
[14:58] <Taesh> It worked on Windows, but it doesn't on Linux, well not on 4.18-5.0
[14:58] <rory> OK it's enabled in the bios then, don't bother rebooting to check now
[14:59] <jeremy31> Taesh post URL from terminal for> dmesg | grep -i elan | nctermbin.com 9999
[14:59] <rory> one thing to check is the touchpad actually enabled in ubuntu? go to mouse settings and check "touchpad" tab there.
[14:59] <dabbill> Some laptops have a function key that will turn off the trackpad.
[14:59] <Taesh> There is no "elan" in dmesg
[14:59] <jeremy31> taesh is syna?
[14:59] <Taesh> dabbill, indeed, mine doesn't seem to have any effect.
[15:00] <rory> Taesh: see, this would be embarrasing :) https://i.imgur.com/Qih2hJ2.png
[15:00] <Taesh> jeremy31, nope
[15:00] <alpha_sh> Bored? Call the official freenode IRC partyline at +4521137886
[15:01] <misspwn_27> Bored? Call the official freenode IRC partyline at +4521137886
[15:01] <Taesh> rory, is this the same window? https://imgur.com/O1nfePk
[15:01] <gernot26> Bored? Call the official freenode IRC partyline at +4521137886
[15:01] <lotuspsychje> !ops | misspwn_27 gernot26
[15:01] <rory> oh no I am using MATE I didn't realise it was different
[15:02] <dabbill> Taesh:  Have you done "lspci" or "lsusb" in the terminal to see if the trakpad was even detected?
[15:02] <rory> that's crazy, ubuntu looks so different these days
[15:02] <ShapeShifter499> Bored? Call the official freenode IRC partyline at +4521137886
[15:03] <c06> hi all
[15:03] <Taesh> dabbill, what should I look for in lspci and lsusb?
[15:03] <rory> Taesh: try sudo apt install xserver-xorg-input-synaptics
[15:04] <c06> in kernel panic what are the flags i need to consider : Comm: vballoon Tainted: G           OE   NX 4.4.121-92.85.1.15720.0.PTF.1089066-default #1 [
[15:04] <Taesh> rory, it installed
[15:05] <dabbill> Taesh:  Somes times the device will be labled with trackpad in the name, but not always.
[15:06] <jeremy31> taesh https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1787775
[15:07] <tomreyn> c06: we only support ubuntu here
[15:11] <Taesh> jeremy31, surely it can't be as easy as installing the i2c-amd-mp2 driver. I'm going to be mad if it is, lol
[15:11] <jeremy31> Taesh, dmesg | grep -i wcom
[15:12] <jeremy31> taesh you might have to do acpidump unless you have acpi=off in grub
[15:13] <Taesh> No wcom in dmesg
[15:15] <Taesh> acpidump is supposed to be run in the terminal, right? It says command not found.
[15:16] <Elliria> Does anyone know if there's a collection of lists of all the possible CSS selectors for theming each of the Ubuntu desktops?
[15:17] <Taesh> I'm rebooting, brb
[15:19] <jeremy31> Taesh, udevadm info --export-db | nc termbin.com 9999
[15:19] <Taesh> It works! Thanks jeremy31! And thank you dabbill and rory
[15:20] <jeremy31> taesh, good
[15:20] <lotuspsychje> Taesh: what did you do to fix plz?
[15:20] <Taesh> I've been trying to fix for so long.
[15:21] <dabbill> Taesh:  NP :)
[15:21] <Taesh> lotuspsychje, followed these instructions: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1787775/comments/44
[15:21] <jeremy31> lotuspsychje: i2c-amd-mp2 from github
[15:22] <lotuspsychje> ok tnx
[15:22] <Taesh> I swear I tried that one some months ago, and it didn't work.
[15:23] <Taesh> Well, thank you again! This made my day.
[15:29] <tomreyn> Taesh: did you install the 4.19.9 mainline kernel then?
[15:30] <tomreyn> if so, i'd recommend you better install the latest 5.0 instead.
[15:31] <tomreyn> or the latest 4.19
[15:45] <Taesh> tomreyn, I'm on 5.0.3
[15:47] <tomreyn> Taesh: good, good. i wa sjust making sure you weren't following this how.to literally. and are aware you'll need to update your (here) unsupported mainline kernel regularly yourself.
[15:47] <tomreyn> update as in keep up to date
[16:27] <Taesh> tomreyn, I'm guessing I'll have to install this driver (patch?) again if I install a new kernel version.
[16:28] <Taesh> tomreyn, hopefully it gets accepted into the kernel in a future version.
[16:28] <lotuspsychje> Taesh: did you add your experience to that bug that fixxed you?
[16:30] <Taesh> No, lotuspsychje, I should probably do that. Got to register a user first
[16:30] <lotuspsychje> Taesh: if you have time for it, please do you will help yourself & the community like this
[16:31] <Taesh> What kind of info should I include? (Kernel version, what solved it)
[16:31] <lotuspsychje> Taesh: yes, like answer #44 solved my issue, on ubuntu version...with kernel version ...
[16:31] <Taesh> Oh, and I'm using an Ideapad 530s, not a Yoga 530
[16:32] <Taesh> Should I make a bugreport for that?
[16:32] <lotuspsychje> Taesh: well, we could say the whole brand lenovo has similar issues across different types
[16:34] <lotuspsychje> Taesh: we reccomend before actually sending the bug, you take a close look at the duplicates suggested first
[16:34] <lotuspsychje> Taesh: cause there's alot of lenovo bugs out there
[16:34] <OerHeks> Ideapad 530 vs Yoga 530 ...
[16:37] <tpw_rules> hi. i can't get a samba server up and i'm not sure what i'm doing wrong. i've changed the config and i've given my user a password with smbpasswd but my mac either says the share does not exist or there is a permissions issue
[16:40] <tomreyn> tpw_rules: you should mention your ubuntu version, too.
[16:40] <tpw_rules> 18.10
[16:41] <tomreyn> also, i suggest you try mounting / accessing it on your ubuntu server to rule out the mac client as an issue.
[16:41] <tpw_rules> how would i do that
[16:41] <tomreyn> (or network issues / firewalls etc.)
[16:42] <tomreyn> you were able to setup a samba server, then i assume you will be able to mount a samba share as well?
[16:42] <tomreyn> *smb share
[16:42] <tomreyn> https://askubuntu.com/questions/1050460/how-to-mount-smb-share-on-ubuntu-18-04
[16:43] <EvanMeek> Hello?
[16:43] <tomreyn> tpw_rules: http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/cosmic/en/man8/mount.cifs.8.html
[16:44] <tomreyn> EvanMeek: Hello!
[16:44] <EvanMeek> nice to meet you.
[16:44] <tomreyn> you, too. do you have an ubuntu support question (see /topic)?
[16:44] <tpw_rules> oh it was a directory permissions issue. weird how it manifested
[16:45] <EvanMeek> No, Ubuntu is the best operating system in the world.
[16:46] <tomreyn> EvanMeek: i'm sure some of its developers will appreciate your opinion. but please keep in mind that opinions should go to different places than this support-only channel.
[16:48] <sentiment> hi
[16:48] <LapsangS> hi
[16:48] <sentiment> I am going to upgrade to 18.10 from 18/04 using do-upgrade command
[16:48] <sentiment> now I have some mirrors for gettting the updates
[16:49] <sentiment> but the upgrade tool changes the mirror to the official one
[16:49] <sentiment> how can I keep the mirror that I want for the distro upgrade?
[16:50] <lotuspsychje> !upgrade | sentiment
[16:51] <tomreyn> sentiment: are you sure it changes the mirrors? what does it change them to?
[16:51] <tomreyn> and what from
[16:52] <sentiment> changes to the archive.ubuntu.com something
[16:52] <sentiment> from a custom local mirror
[16:52] <sentiment> the custom one is ftp
[16:53] <sentiment> ftp://ubuntu.hostiran.ir/ubuntuarchive/ cosmic main
[16:53] <tomreyn> sentiment: does this custom local mirror have -proposed for both the source and target release, as well as main/dist-upgrader-all?
[16:53] <sentiment> hmm
[16:53] <sentiment> I'm not sure
[16:54] <fallenour> o/
[16:54] <sentiment> how can I know?
[16:54] <chriys> hi, everyone
[16:54] <tomreyn> this mirror does not seem to accept connections from everywhere, so i can't check.
[16:54] <fallenour> Im having issues with postgresql10 installed via snap. It says the server is running, but theres no proof of that in either systemctl or in service outputs.
[16:54] <sentiment> how can I check?
[16:54] <fallenour> I dont understand how a service can be running, but not be seen by the kernel?
[16:55] <tomreyn> sentiment: is the upgrade remarkably slower if you use the mirrors do-release-upgrade sets?
[16:55] <sentiment> well it's not as much about the speed as it's about the 'cheaper' price
[16:55] <sentiment> I want to save bandwidth
[16:55] <lotuspsychje> fallenour: snap support goes to the maintainer of the snap
[16:56] <lotuspsychje> fallenour: we can only help you with the ubuntu mechanism of issues
[16:56] <tomreyn> sentiment: oh you pay differently for international traffic? i wasn't aware of this practice.
[16:56] <chriys> I have a printer which requires a username and password. I'have added it using ipp. When printing it never prompt me for the credentials. I tried adding the username "AuthInfoRequired username,password" inside /etc/cups/printers.conf but cups keeps overriding it to "AuthInfoRequired none".
[16:56] <sentiment> tomreyn: yes
[16:57] <sentiment> so if it's not possible to force it to use that mirror, I might just go on with the official ne
[16:57] <sentiment> one*
[16:57] <fallenour> lotuspsychje: yea I figured that much, but thats the part that doesnt make any sense. Even from jsut a raw ubuntu perspective, its like postgres isnt installed, even though I can both locate the files, and I can see that the service is running. Im so confused. How can a service run on the system, but the kernel not see it?
[16:58] <tomreyn> sentiment: you notice the "Last update unknown" here? This is not a good mirror to use https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+mirror/ubuntu.hostiran.ir-archive
[16:58] <sentiment> yes I've noticed that
[16:59] <sentiment> however the one that's up to date doesn't use lower price rates
[16:59] <lotuspsychje> fallenour: maybe this could help: https://github.com/commandprompt/postgresql-snap/
[16:59] <sentiment> for domestic traffic
[16:59] <tomreyn> sentiment: looking through all the iranian mirror servers, this one seem to be the most up to date: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+mirror/mirror.aminidc.com-archive
[16:59] <fallenour> lotuspsychje: yea Im looking at that now. Im just so amazed. Linux REALLY DOESNT SEE IT, but Im IN IT right now! Its MINDBLOWING
[17:00] <sentiment> tomreyn: yes that's the one I was talking about
[17:00] <fallenour> lotuspsychje: How is the kernel even getting resources to the service if it doesnt know its there?
[17:00] <sentiment> ok then, I'll just use that mirror
[17:00] <sentiment> thank you :)
[17:01] <lotuspsychje> fallenour: did you see known issues: There is no systemd service file for postgres daemon. PostgreSQL has to be managed manually by using pg_ctl.
[17:02] <tomreyn> sentiment: i would not recommend using an outdated operating system, especially not in countries where some authorities will hack their citizens. but you choose the price.
[17:02] <CoJaBo> tomreyn: Those countries also hack other countries' citizens, so you're not safe outside them either =D
[17:03] <sentiment> you think I should use the official mirror?
[17:03] <sentiment> because I'm going to upgrade Ubuntu anyway
[17:03] <sentiment> tomreyn: I agree with you in general
[17:04] <tomreyn> sentiment: if your costs are identical i'd personally use an out of country mirror, but mabye i', just paranoid.
[17:04] <fallenour> lotuspsychje: OOOH! I did not see that! Thank you for letting me know!
[17:04] <lotuspsychje> welcome fallenour
[17:04] <sentiment> haha I see
[17:05] <tomreyn> sentiment: generally, packages are signed so you should not end up with modified software. but maybe with outdated software.
[17:16] <condorcondor> hy
[17:17] <condorcondor> is there anyone?
[17:17] <lotuspsychje> !ask | condorcondor
[17:17] <tomreyn> sentiment: I talked to one of the Canonical folks who handle mirroring. These mirror servers in Iran are not run by them. The person I talked to suggests that you file a ticket with Canonical, and also directly contact the mirror server admins, since they may not even know their mirror servers aren't syncing.
[17:18] <tomreyn> sentiment: To file a ticket with the mirror admins team at Cannonical, please send mail to mirrors@ubuntu.com
[17:18] <madelmoe> Hi everyone, does anyone have an Asus x99 mobo?
[17:19] <lotuspsychje> madelmoe: ask your ubuntu issues please
[17:19] <hggdh> tomreyn sentiment: you can also get an idea of mirror status here: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+archivemirrors
[17:19] <tomreyn> sentiment: contacts for the mirror servers are listed on the individual mirror pages listed at https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+archivemirrors#yui_3_10_3_1_1553792211883_62
[17:19] <hggdh> heh
[17:19] <tomreyn> ;-)
[17:20] <hggdh> (and most of the Iran mirrors are status "unknown")
[17:20] <tomreyn> hggdh: we're aware, and discussed this here and in #ubuntu-mirrors some minuntes ago.
[17:20] <tomreyn> thanks
[17:22] <madelmoe> im trying to make a NVIDIA gpu work in ubuntu 18.04, but get black screen... not sure but seems there is an issue with my mobo and nvidia drivers
[17:22] <lotuspsychje> madelmoe: whats your graphics card chipset please?
[17:22] <alapasar> Buenas tardes
[17:22] <madelmoe> I can use nvidia gpu if i initialice ubuntu using nouveau and switching inside ubuntu
[17:23] <tomreyn> sentiment: if possible, i'd also like to discuss with you what this situation means for users in the country in general in more detail in #ubuntu-discuss, if you have the time.
[17:23] <sentiment> tomreyn: oh thanks for the support.
[17:23] <madelmoe> lotuspsychje, Ive tried a 750ti and a 640 so far with same results
[17:23] <madelmoe> my ubuntu version is 18.04
[17:23] <lotuspsychje> madelmoe: wich driver version of nvidia did you test?
[17:24] <lotuspsychje> !es | alapasar
[17:24] <madelmoe> I tried 418, as i need CUDA 10
[17:25] <Vimar> Hi
[17:25] <lotuspsychje> madelmoe: the 418 from where?
[17:27] <lotuspsychje> madelmoe: wich driver does ubuntu reccomend? ubuntu-drivers list
[17:28] <madelmoe> lotuspsychje: ubuntu recommends 418. I tried installing it through cuda dependencies and sldo nvidia-drivers-418
[17:29] <lotuspsychje> madelmoe: 418 for a 750ti doesnt make sense to me
[17:29] <lotuspsychje> madelmoe: did you add ppa ?
[17:31] <madelmoe> lotuspsychje: nope. I just run ubuntu-drivers devices and it recommended 418
[17:31] <madelmoe> if i use via terminal it works, the problem is when booting with nvidia drivers i get a black screen
[17:33] <lotuspsychje> madelmoe: could you share your sources.list plz?
[17:33] <madelmoe> im not in the same computer, but i can assure you, im using a clean install and nothing done appart from update, upgrade and cuda 10 install
[17:34] <madelmoe> im right now reinstalling the computer
[17:34] <madelmoe> sorry :(
[17:34] <marcoagpinto> guys?! Will Ubuntu 20.04 have a grey GUI like 18.10?
[17:34] <marcoagpinto> :)
[17:35] <OerHeks> that cuda 10 install you used the oiblaf or driver ppa?
[17:35] <lotuspsychje> !discuss | marcoagpinto
[17:35] <madelmoe> btw i cannot enter virtual console in login screen, is that normal behavior?
[17:35] <OerHeks> marcoagpinto,  we don t know
[17:35] <marcoagpinto> ohhhhh
[17:35] <marcoagpinto> :(
[17:36] <erle-> is there a way to make Firefox prefer h264? vp9 is really unpractical on old hardware
[17:36] <madelmoe> lotuspsychje: im using the network installation. think its using a ppa
[17:37] <lotuspsychje> madelmoe: by default 18.04 doesnt use 318
[17:38] <madelmoe> lotuspsychje: dont understand... 318? you mean nvidia driver 418?
[17:38] <lotuspsychje> madelmoe: 418 yeah sorry
[17:39] <OerHeks> interesting ..
[17:39] <madelmoe> lotuspsychje: thats what i get when i run ubuntu-drivers devices... Should i install 18.10 then ?
[17:40] <ioria> erle-, i remember h264ify
[17:40] <lotuspsychje> madelmoe: i would try a simple 390 for your card as a test
[17:40] <erle-> ioria, thanks
[17:41] <ioria> erle-,  np
[17:41] <madelmoe> lotuspsychje: so the problem is with 18.04 and 418? Should i install 18.10? I really need to use CUDA 10
[17:41] <Nandu> Hi all
[17:41] <lordcirth> Nandu, hi
[17:42] <Nandu> anyone ever have issues installing 18.10 on a laptop with GTX1050?
[17:42] <Nandu> I have a dell p5f7
[17:42] <lordcirth> Nandu, don't ask poll questions, tell us exactly what is wrong.
[17:43] <Nandu> Installation freezes
[17:43] <Nandu> lemme get the exact model
[17:43] <Nandu>  Inspiron 15 5577 Gaming
[17:44] <Nandu> Windows installs fine
[17:44] <lotuspsychje> madelmoe: before you make cuda work, you need a working system without a black screen right?
[17:44] <Nandu> I took the drive out and cleaned it with diskpart
[17:45] <Nandu> install went farther but still just hangs with two dots red three white
[17:45] <Nandu> installing from a flash drive imaged with rufus
[17:45] <madelmoe> lotuspsychje: correct. I'll try it now. ;)
[17:45] <CoJaBo> So, has anyone yet figured out a way to have lxc containers able to connect to host in macvlan? Numerious sources say "Oh, just put the host also in a macvlan", but the procedure to do so seems to be top-secret.
[17:46] <ioria> Nandu, i suggest disabling SecureBoot and  boot with the nomodeset parameter (press F6 at the main menu)
[17:47] <Nandu> Sweet thanks! SB off already but I didn't know about the f6 deal
[17:48] <Nandu> what does 'nomodeset' do?
[17:48] <OerHeks> !nomodeset
[17:48] <Nandu> ah good
[17:49] <OerHeks> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/KernelBootParameters
[17:50] <ioria> Nandu, in any case, you can press esc when it freezesand check the errors
[17:52] <ca1ek> I got trouble trying to run minecraft on ubuntu 18.10
[17:52] <dStruct> Hey all, I'm having an issue loading a driver that appears to be in the right location, and I think there must be something obvious I'm missing here, sudo modprobe dgrp gives me an Exec format error, but I can't find what that means exactly
[17:52] <ca1ek> I get a microsoft standard "something happened" error
[17:54] <OerHeks> ca1ek, sounds like a wine issue?
[17:54] <lordcirth> ca1ek, is this the Java minecraft, or C#?
[17:55] <dusted> Ubuntu server 18.04, dd iso to usb disk, boot server. Results in corrupt GUI, but ctrl+alt+f2 gives console.. Any way to enter the text-based installation program?
[17:55] <lordcirth> dusted, did you checksum the iso?
[17:55] <ca1ek> OerHeks, lordcirth, I'm using the Java version, and I fixed it, Ubuntu comes with Java 11 by default
[17:56] <ca1ek> minecraft needs Java 8
[17:56] <ca1ek> i downgraded and it runs now
[17:56] <lordcirth> dusted, Unless you know for sure that it's a driver problem, not a corrupt ISO, you should not install.
[17:56] <tomreyn> dusted: default server or alternate?
[17:56] <tomreyn> also which version exactly
[17:56] <dusted> tomreyn: default, lordcirth took a moment, same checksum as on website
[18:00] <dusted> tomreyn: fcbcc756a1aa5314d52e882067c4ca6a *ubuntu-18.04.2-live-server-amd64.iso
[18:02] <OerHeks> live server is more a tool to fix stuff, use the regular server iso
[18:03] <OerHeks> or you are in need to setup raid first
[18:07] <dusted> OerHeks: ah, I thought it was the regular, I'll try that :)
[18:08] <johnfg> hi folks
[18:08] <dusted> OerHeks: I'm not seeing a 18.04 non-live server image?
[18:08] <johnfg> Just to make sure, or to double-check for best practices...who should be the owner and group of /var/www/html?  www-data for both?
[18:09] <ioria> dusted, http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases/18.04/release/
[18:10] <johnfg> If I go with the www-data for both, if I add a user to the www-data group, should they be able to add and delete files there?
[18:10] <dusted> ioria: thank you, i was at http://releases.ubuntu.com/18.04/ and being naive..
[18:10] <ioria> ok
[18:11] <OerHeks> johnfg, yes, that is common practice
[18:11] <OerHeks> add the user to www-data, and permissions should be preserved
[18:11] <johnfg> OerHeks: thanks for the confirmation.  Wanting to get it right for my new ubuntu 18.04 install.
[18:17] <dusted> Phew, glorious text-mode installation worked from the regular image :)
[18:18] <johnfg> OerHeks: Do I have to logout and login to make those changes effective?  I'm in the www-data group, but can't untar an archive in /var/www (html is owned by www-data.www-data).
[18:20] <OerHeks> sudo usermod -a -G www-data  <name>  # would work instantly? check with 'groups'
[18:21] <dStruct> johnfg: I typically have to logout and log back in for it to take effect, you can technically su to said user but it can be tricky that way, so I usually just logout
[18:21] <johnfg> OerHeks: That's done.  I wonder if I need to change the perms on /var/www/html to 766 or something?
[18:22] <johnfg> dStruct: Maybe I'll try that.
[18:23] <johnfg> brb
[18:45] <Sleaker> so - https://www.ubuntu.com/about/release-cycle - doesn't actually give hard EOL dates.
[18:45] <Sleaker> where are the EOL dates posted from 14.04?
[18:46] <OerHeks> i guess when extended support starts ...
[18:46] <Sleaker> sure, but where are those shwon?
[18:47] <Sleaker> the wiki even just has it tagged as April 2019 for 14.04.6
[18:50] <OerHeks>  30 April i guess
[18:50] <OerHeks> https://blog.ubuntu.com/2019/02/05/ubuntu-14-04-trusty-tahr does not give an exact date
[18:51] <OerHeks> sudo apt install distro-info &&  ubuntu-distro-info --all -yeol -f
[18:51] <OerHeks>  ubuntu-distro-info --all -yeol -f
[18:51] <OerHeks> Ubuntu 14.04 LTS "Trusty Tahr" 29
[18:51] <Sleaker> ah ok
[18:51] <Sleaker> thanks
[19:02] <eelstrebor> i have a Renesas Technology Corp. uPD720202 - i have video and no audio - using vlc on ubuntu 18.04
[19:04] <sadegh> hello
[19:07] <OerHeks> eelstrebor, what is that Renesas Technology Corp. uPD720202 ? and what ubuntu version and so on ..
[19:18] <ruser> ioria: lordcirth thanks for your help. i got my stuff sorted. Though, i have to say i don't like the swipe thing to login/select user. Is there a way to sort of have the old style login?
[19:24] <teledyn> is there a specific channel for ubuntu network questions?  I want to add a permanent route and my old-school methods apparently no longer exist, and when I just sudo route add it on the command line, it keeps timing out and closing
[19:25] <eelstrebor> OerHeks, actually, it's this item: http://www.ezcap.com/article_read_397.html  Ubuntu 18.04
[19:25] <ircarcs> teledyn: hi i m good at network but i suggest you to pastbin and go in details ..
[19:25] <ircarcs> teledyn:  im NOT good
[19:25] <leftyfb> teledyn: ip route add
[19:25] <leftyfb> teledyn: https://www.poftut.com/add-new-route-ubuntu-linux/
[19:26] <teledyn> leftytb: looks good, thanks.
[19:27] <teledyn> leftyfb
[19:27] <dStruct> teledyn: the old-school way using utilities like route have kind of shifted toward using the singular "ip" command, it has a lot of features from what I've seen
[19:27] <teledyn> (sorry)
[19:27] <ircarcs> teledyn: https://tse4.mm.bing.net/th?id=OIP.rKWmDjnQAUG_ohjnF3e2bwHaK3&pid=Api
[19:28] <ircarcs> teledyn: wallpaper suggest :)
[19:28] <teledyn> ircarcs: nice, yes, bookmarked at very least
[19:33] <akram> Hello
[19:35] <lordcirth> akram, hi
[19:40] <Oleb> #join
[19:42] <fallenour> asdf
[19:49] <qwertuytty> test mesage
[19:49] <qwertuytty> tell developers lubuntu-lxqt and other buntu, ubuntu-mate 19.04 have kernel 5.
[19:50] <qwertuytty> lubuntu-lxqt 19.04 kernel 4.19
[19:50] <tomreyn> qwertuytty: do you have an ubuntu support question?
[19:50] <pragmaticenigma> qwertuytty: This channel is monitored by volunteers. We have no direct communication with the Ubuntu developer team
[19:51] <qwertuytty> no , bat i cannot say it in icrk lubuntu, need registration
[19:51] <qwertuytty> but
[19:52] <qwertuytty> irc
[19:52] <qwertuytty> irc not icrk
[19:52] <qwertuytty> ru, en not my lang
[19:52] <pragmaticenigma> !ru
[19:53] <pragmaticenigma> !register
[19:53] <tomreyn> !enter | qwertuytty
[19:53] <tomreyn> qwertuytty: nobody but you is going to carry your stuff over to another channel. either you register and do it, or no one will. posting off-topic on this channel get's you nowhere.
[19:55] <qwertuytty> I do not need help what I wanted to say I wrote above
[19:55] <tomreyn> !ot | qwertuytty
[19:56] <OerHeks> !info linux-image-generic disco
[19:56] <OerHeks> 5.0.0.7.8
[19:56] <OerHeks> qwertuytty, get your info updated
[19:57] <qwertuytty> one phrase from me is not oftopik
[19:58] <qwertuytty> "qwertuytty, get your info updated" what for? and how?
[20:00] <OerHeks> qwertuytty, you clearly did not properly upgrade, kernel 5 is on dingo for weeks now, join #ubuntu+1 for dingo beta support
[20:01] <qwertuytty> dingo? in lubuntu-lxqt 19.04 ?
[20:02] <OerHeks> yes
[20:03] <exfosu> Client: HexChat 2.14.2 • OS: Ubuntu "bionic" 18.04 • CPU: Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-6700K CPU @ 4.00GHz (800MHz) • Memory: Physical: 30.6 GiB Total (24.3 GiB Free) Swap: 953.1 MiB Total (953.1 MiB Free) • Storage: 0 bytes / 0 bytes (0 bytes Free) • Uptime: 2h 7m 43s
[20:03] <qwertuytty> maybe, I use 5 or 4 days in virtual machine ubuntu-mate 19.04
[20:04] <qwertuytty> lubuntu lxqt in virtual machine not update 4 days
[20:04] <qwertuytty> ~ 4
[20:04] <qwertuytty> host windows
[20:05] <OerHeks> so you run a beta, make a little mistake, do an upgrade and join #ubuntu+1, not here for talk/support
[20:06] <qwertuytty> "# ubuntu + 1" name irc chanell?
[20:07] <qwertuytty> sorry https://translate.google.ru/#view=home&op=translate&sl=auto&tl=en&text=%D0%BF%D0%B5%D1%80%D0%B5%D0%B2%D0%BE%D0%B4
[20:10] <coconut> qwertuytty: #ubuntu+1  like OerHeks said
[20:10] <jcb2016> whats a good gtk app for printing
[20:10] <qwertuytty> #ubuntu+1
[20:10] <qwertuytty> hahahaha
[20:11] <coconut> qwertuytty: use: /join #ubuntu+1
[20:11] <OerHeks> jcb2016, openoffice
[20:11] <qwertuytty> #ubuntu+1 -  no magick
[20:11] <OerHeks> o libreoffice, standard in your ubuntu
[20:12] <OerHeks> if you cannot join ubuntu+_1, the error is clear, no?
[20:12] <OerHeks> !register
[20:19] <jcb2016> OerHeks, openoffice is for printing or for documents?
[20:20] <lordcirth> jcb2016, normally you print from whatever tool you are editing / viewing with. What do you want to print?
[20:20] <OerHeks> sure, documents, pictures, whatever open standard
[20:20] <jcb2016> lordcirth, regular word/office/libreoffice documents
[20:21] <OerHeks> and cups is installed as printerservice
[20:21] <OerHeks> hidden perl, this cups
[20:21] <lordcirth> jcb2016, so, if you have libreoffice, why do you need a "gtk app for printing"?
[20:22] <jcb2016> lordcirth, i thought i need something seprate to add a printer first then i can print. im ued to windows if you can tell
[20:22] <lordcirth> jcb2016, ah, to setup printers, I see. If you search "print" in your menu, isn't there a program for that?
[20:22] <OerHeks> localhost:631
[20:23] <jcb2016> lordcirth, ill look give me a few
[20:23] <OerHeks> look at the publishing/graphic/photography metapackages https://packages.ubuntu.com/source/bionic/ubuntustudio-meta
[21:01] <braniac> is ther any software for ubuntu to create network diagrams
[21:01] <braniac> like visio
[21:02] <OerHeks> dia
[21:02] <OerHeks> !info dia
[21:02] <OerHeks> also svg tools are good in this
[21:17] <meglodon> ping
[21:17] <meglodon> :D
[21:18] <lordcirth> meglodon, hi
[21:18] <meglodon> hello
[21:20] <oft_gegong> When is 18.10 EOL'd?
[21:21] <lordcirth> !18.10 | oft_gegong
[21:22] <oft_gegong> !14.04
[21:37] <Sleaker> oh wow trusty has a hard support end date now :O
[21:46] <the2048> !18.04
[21:46] <the2048> That's good
[21:48] <eelstrebor> i don't audio but i do get video from this device on the PC monitor : http://www.ezcap.com/article_read_397.html  Ubuntu 18.04
[21:48] <eelstrebor> it has this chip on it: Renesas Technology Corp. uPD720202
[21:49] <eelstrebor> using vlc on ubuntu 18.04
[21:51] <n-iCe> Hi guys, is there a way to install ubuntu with the minimal instalation possible?
[21:51] <the2048> Yes
[21:51] <n-iCe> just the core base I would say
[21:51] <the2048> You use the minimal ISO, it's CLI only
[21:51] <EriC^> !mini | n-iCe
[21:51] <n-iCe> oh really?
[21:52] <n-iCe> awesome! because I have been using ubuntu for years, but always changing between ubuntu, xubuntu, lubuntu etc, thought why not to make mine with my needs
[21:52] <the2048> I installed 14.04 from it on an old iBook clamshell; it was more trouble than it's worth trying to get it to install
[21:53] <the2048> I'd say use minimal if you're making a headless PC that doesn't need much
[21:53] <n-iCe> oh, so no easy task
[21:54] <the2048> Not easy for someone like me when I was 12
[21:54] <n-iCe> ok ok
[21:54] <n-iCe> does the mini contains a way to use wifi?
[21:54] <n-iCe> since I lost my ethernet cable
[21:55] <the2048> Not that I know of, but hardware drivers do exist in the system. Haven't tested WiFi because none of my PCs that run Ubuntu minimal (that still boot) had a WiFi card
[21:56] <n-iCe> uhm
[21:56] <n-iCe> then maybe is not for me
[21:57] <eelstrebor> must be a setting issue since the pass thru the card works fine?
[22:09] <dStruct> well I figured out my insmod driver issue, for some reason the ./configure grabbed the wrong kernel so it wouldn't load it
[22:10] <dStruct> now that's resolved I have another issue.  does anyone here by chance know a good #channel that might have ppl familiar with custom serial terminals, such as setting custom stty options
[22:12] <wondows> I would like to have a calculator on Dash, so I tried to install this unity-lens-utilities but it cannot be found "E: Unable to locate package unity-lens-utilities"
[22:13] <OerHeks> print 1+1
[22:13] <EriC^> !info unity-lens-utilities
[22:13] <EriC^> wondows: which ubuntu version?
[22:13] <wondows> 18.04
[22:13] <EriC^> !info unity-lens-utilities bionix
[22:13] <EriC^> !info unity-lens-utilities bionic
[22:14] <EriC^> !info unity-lens-utilities bionic
[22:14] <the2048> oof
[22:14] <dStruct> wondows: did you mean -applications not -utilities?
[22:14] <EriC^> wondows: the package name doesnt exist in 18.04
[22:14] <OerHeks> - applications
[22:14] <wondows> hmm that's what I found in the web
[22:15] <OerHeks> yeah, i wonder what guide wondows reads
[22:15] <OerHeks> https://packages.ubuntu.com/source/bionic/unity-lens-applications
[22:15] <wondows> name changes...
[22:16] <OerHeks> no, it does not change.
[22:16] <wondows> I saw in askubuntu for example
[22:16] <wondows> https://askubuntu.com/questions/509800/ubuntu-calculator-in-dash
[22:16] <dStruct> so a couple years ago I configured this workstation with some custom stty options to connect to some legacy serial console stuff, and I'm trying to remember the other tool I used, there was stty and something else, any ideas what that would be?
[22:17] <dStruct> wondows: you know you can just hit the Windows key and start typing calc and hit enter and get to it fast right?
[22:17] <wondows> so what is unity-lens-applications? I still cant do math in Dash
[22:17] <OerHeks> wondows, it is not unity-scope-calculator
[22:17] <wondows> dStruct: I don't want a discrete calculator, I want it to be done in Dash itself
[22:18] <wondows> that's just waaaay better
[22:20] <wondows> I already have unity-scope-calculator and still cant do math on Dash
[22:23] <OerHeks> there is some post about enabling filter calculations,.. on your url
[22:23] <OerHeks> i have no unity, so i cannot look into it
[22:54] <CantPingExtIP> Hi!, since update from 18.04 to 18.10 I can't ping external up - it say "ping sendmsg operation not permitted"
[22:55] <CantPingExtIP> I have researched and Google extensively but cannot find a solution
[23:00] <Bashing-om> CantPingExtIP: Bunches I no longer understand about networking, but can you see the gateway ' ip route list ' ?
[23:10] <Gerowen> Have the functions of "ctrl+alt+functionkeys" changed?  Way back in the day it used to be that ctrl+alt+f1-f6 took you out to different terminal only interfaces, and ctrl+alt+f7 would return you to X.
[23:10] <Gerowen> That way if a graphical program caused X to hang, you could ctrl+alt+fsomething and kill it, then switch back with ctrl+alt+f7
[23:10] <Gerowen> It now seems that ctrl+alt+f1 is a graphical interface, ctrl+alt+f2 sends me to my current graphical session.
[23:11] <Gerowen> I'm just wondering if this is something specific to Ubuntu, or something upstream with X, gnome display manager, etc.
[23:11] <Bashing-om> Gerowen: Recently many releases have the GUI in tty1 rather than 7 .
[23:12] <Platonides> it's not ubuntu-specific
[23:12] <Gerowen> K, was just curious, it had been a LONG time since I had to use it for anything, but I tried running Warframe with Proton and my PC had an aneurism, but I've got videos encoding and wanted to try and recover without rebooting or killing the graphical session altogether.
[23:14] <Bashing-om> Gerowen: /var/log/Xorg.0.log file will show what TTY X is loading into.
[23:36] <Sysifoss> Hi, i am on 18.04 and getting this issue where sometimes the sound coming from my computer will get alot of static, if i kill pulseaudio and restart whatever i was watching itfixes it but im wondering how i prevent this in the first place
[23:48] <tomreyn> Sysifoss: is there anything on it on it on your logs (systemctl -b | nc termbin.com 9999)? did this happen with other ubuntu versions, other linux distributions, other operating systems?
[23:49] <tomreyn> Sysifoss: which hardware is this, which sound chip?