[00:24] <furtif> Salut tout le monde :-)
[02:35] <IrcsomeBot2> carbonzero was added by: carbonzero
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 Hey I'm getting this error with today's live build and I was trying to access software sources to add more options like I always do. How do I fix this? I feel naked without the rest of my options chosen.
[02:37] <tomreyn> carbonzerolive build of what?
[02:38] <hubertjjj> das
[02:38] <hubertjjj> das
[02:38] <tomreyn> hubertjjj: ?
 tomreyn: tsimonq2 is already on it.
[02:39] <tomreyn> ok
[02:40] <Eickmeyer> tomreyn: It seems as though @carbonzero uncovered a bug.
[02:40] <tomreyn> maybe pkexec can be used in the meantime
[02:41] <Eickmeyer> tomreyn: Possibly.
 I feel naked without the rest of my ubuntu options chosen im software sources. Lol
 It's today's daily build, @IrcsomeBot
 @carbonzero Ircsomebot is just the bridge bot, like studiobot.
 Oh wait, @tomreyn. Just answering your question
 tomreyn was asking.
 Yeah, realized that after I commented. Doh.
 hehe
[02:43] <tomreyn> i think gksudo was removed, maybe lxqt-sudo should be removed for the same reasons.
[02:43] <tomreyn> but i don't know the code
[02:43] <Eickmeyer> Yeah, but like I said, a developer is already working on it.
 @tomreyn, yeah I'm just a general user at the moment so 🤷‍♂️
[02:44] <tomreyn> cool cool.
 Learning software development though so I'll be able to fix this stuff eventually
 I'm hastily installing all of my apps so I can get on IRC on my laptop and off of my phone. Lol
 Do I need to file a bug report for that?
[02:57] <Eickmeyer> @carbonzero Nah, it's being fixed.
 @Eickmeyer cool! So I'll be able to get into software sources by tomorrow?
 @carbonzero, That I couldn't tell you. Depends on a number of factors.
 @Eickmeyer oh I see. No problem. Eh, at least I found something that needed fixed. Lol
[03:11] <krytarik> Well, in the meantime you could just launch it manually using the proper Sudo frontend.
 @krytarik Can you pass me a note with that command?
 Pretty please? My terminal knowledge's ummm...lacking...severely...but I've got some of it down.
[03:13] <krytarik> I'd try with: "kdesu software-properties-qt"
 @krytarik kdesu? That's new to me. No sudo?
 Hmm..interesting.
[03:14] <krytarik> !sudo
 Ok, so still use sudo? Just like normal?
[03:16] <krytarik> Noo..?
 Oh see? Got brains but dude, empty.
 Me on empty
 (Photo, 720x1280) https://irc-attachments.kde.org/FHf7Mx0h/file_14327.jpg
 What the...??? Ugh...
 Tell you what, I need sleep. I'll hit this again tomorrow. I'm having to get up super early to go to L.A. in the morning and I feel half asleep as it is. I'll check in tomorrow and get through this with you.
[03:22] <krytarik> Try and see what installing 'kde-runtime' would pull in additionally.
[03:46] <valorie> hmmm, that !sudo factoid needs fixing
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 Is there a 19.04 kubuntu image out there?
 @bauchhaus, Image as in iso?
 Yes
[08:23] <IrcsomeBot2> <Jorge Sánchez> @bauchhaus, http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/daily-live/current/ … Daily (beta) builds are there. You'll have to wait until 18 of April to get the stable release.
[08:58] <user|67884> 000
 @Jorge Sánchez, 👍
[10:18] <BluesKaj> 'Morning folks
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[13:29] <lotric> здрасте
[13:30] <diogenes_> здрасте
[13:36] <mparillo> !ru
[13:52] <lotric>  /join
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[13:53] <lotric> шо так тихо
[13:54] <BluesKaj> !ru | lotric
[14:01] <Greenfrog> i have a problem with the application menu. when i access the taskbar and hover over the k icon for a sex. the words application menu appears mid screen then scurries to the taskbar. clicking on the menu puts it in the middle of the sreen disonncted from the bar. any ideas how to fix this? sometimes a reboot fixes sometims it doesn't then it breaks again.
 Sound like you may have dual monitors and the primary monitor picked by the BIOS is not the same as the primary monitor for KDE.  Open a terminal and run killall plasmashell, then run plasmashell &
[14:13] <Greenfrog> yes i have multiple monitors thanks for the reply
[14:16] <Greenfrog> that fized it, hope it stays fixed. thanks :)
[14:27] <Greenfrog> wow, i struggled with that one for a while even doing reboots think it might fix it :P
[14:27] <Greenfrog> oh, and reinstalls
 It's just an initialization bug in KDE.  I think the bug has been reported but I have not made time to hunt it down...
[14:42] <Greenfrog> you mean the app menu is really a bug?
 KDE locks in the wrong location for displaying the menu and notifications on boot.  When plasmashell restarts, the correct layout is evaluated so you will need to restart plasmashell after every reboot until the bug is fixed.
[14:51] <Greenfrog> oh ok thanks
[14:53] <Greenfrog> at least it can be reset for now thats at least better
[15:16] <Roey> hey all
[15:16] <Roey> can ya guys help me figure out this audio issue?  I have the sound driver for my onboard sound loaded, but I don't see the device in PulseAudio!
[15:17] <diogenes_> Roey, you mean in pavucontrol?
[15:17] <Roey> right
[15:17] <Roey> oh hey diogenes_!
[15:18] <diogenes_> and in: aplay -l
[15:18] <Roey> yeah it sees it
[15:18] <Roey> aplay -l lists the mobo sound, yes.
[15:19] <diogenes_> Roey, then you need to tweak the config file
[15:19] <Roey> ok so:
[15:19] <Roey> thank you for being the first person to actually say what I was suspecing
[15:19] <Roey> when I had upgrade to 17.04,
[15:20] <Roey> I may have inadvertantly allowed it to replace a config file with a stock config file
[15:20] <Roey> which eliminated that onboard sound definition section
[15:20] <Roey> diogenes_: where specifically should I check?
[15:21] <diogenes_> Roey, in: /etc/pulse/default.pa
[15:22] <Roey> diogenes_: alright, I have it loaded in my editor; what should I look for, in particular?
[15:23] <diogenes_> try adding: load-module module-alsa-source device=hw:X,X
[15:23] <diogenes_> replace X X with the card number you get with: aplay -l
[15:24] <Roey> diogenes_: hmm ok
[15:25] <diogenes_> after that, save changes and, pulseaudio -k
[15:25] <Roey> they've all been commented out
[15:25] <diogenes_> then look in pavucontrol
[15:25] <Roey> #load-module module-alsa-source has been commented out
[15:26] <Roey> diogenes_: aplay -l output: https://pastebin.com/WH1EVH5f
[15:26] <diogenes_> ok uncomment and save then: pulseaudio -k
[15:27] <Roey> diogenes_: https://pastebin.com/pDhpWyqS
[15:27] <Roey> that's the relevant portion of the config file
[15:27] <Roey> is hw:1,0 correct though?
[15:28] <diogenes_> Roey, in aplay -l, look for lines: Subdevices: 0/1
[15:28] <Roey> ok
[15:28] <diogenes_> 0/1 is the hw you need
[15:28] <Roey> so that's 0,1,ok.
[15:28] <diogenes_> yes
[15:28] <Roey> oh and the pulseaudio config file says:
[15:28] <Roey> ### (it's probably better to not load these drivers manually, but instead
[15:28] <Roey> ### use module-udev-detect -- see below -- for doing this automatically)
[15:28] <diogenes_> yes you can try that too
[15:29] <diogenes_> first it wuld be wiser to try the reckmmended wayt
[15:29] <diogenes_> by the config life itself
[15:29] <Roey> that one is already not commented out
[15:30] <Roey> sudo pulseaudio -k:
[15:30] <Roey> $ sudo pulseaudio -k
[15:30] <Roey> E: [pulseaudio] core-util.c: Home directory not accessible: Permission denied
[15:30] <Roey> E: [pulseaudio] main.c: Failed to kill daemon: No such file or directory
[15:31] <diogenes_> then reboot
[15:31] <Roey> ok
[15:31] <Roey> brb.
[15:31] <diogenes_> and
[15:31] <diogenes_> not sudo
[15:31] <diogenes_> i didn't say sudo pulseaudio -k
[15:31] <diogenes_> simply: pulseaudio -k
[15:35] <Roey> oik
[15:35] <Roey> ok *
[15:35] <Roey> oh hey!
[15:35] <Roey> Now I see built-in audio!
[15:36] <diogenes_> try if it works first :)
[15:36] <diogenes_> before you get excited
[15:36] <Roey> pl
[15:36] <Roey> ok
[15:36] <Roey> I put on headphones and now I hear sound!
[15:37] <diogenes_> so we can say you had a good day today :)
[15:38] <Roey> diogenes_: THANK YOU SO MUCH :)
[15:38] <Roey> thank you thank you thank you for confirming what I supsected, that it was a config file issue
[15:39] <diogenes_> Roey, no problem :)
[15:49] <Greenfrog> can someone recommend a backup utility?
[15:58] <diogenes_> Greenfrog, dejadup
[16:02] <Greenfrog> ok thanks
[16:03] <diogenes_> yw
[17:34] <IrcsomeBot2> zifi2 was added by: zifi2
[19:20] <valorie> Roey: you are you still on 17.04?
[19:21] <valorie> because that is loooooooooong OEL
[19:21] <valorie> eol I mean
[19:44] <tomreyn> let's hope it was just a typo
[19:53] <IrcsomeBot2> Tourist Sam was added by: Tourist Sam
[19:56] <Roey> valorie: er
[19:56] <Roey> 19.04
[19:57] <valorie> lol
[19:57] <valorie> ok
[19:57] <Roey> what
[19:57] <Roey> 18.10
[19:57] <valorie> lol
[19:57] <Roey> 18.10 rather
[19:57] <valorie> got it
[19:57] <Roey> gah.. I did lsb_release -a to make sure.
[19:57] <valorie> this system is still 18.10
[19:57] <Roey> 17.04 is not out yet right?
[19:57] <Roey> that's in a week?
[19:57] <Roey> or a couple of weeks?
[19:57] <valorie> but I'll probably be in teh beta of 19.04 by tonight
[19:58] <valorie> beta was yesterday
[19:58] <valorie> I have it on my travel laptop already
[19:58] <valorie> it's good
[19:58] <OerHeks> 17.04 went eol couple months ago
[19:58] <valorie> yeah
[19:59] <valorie> I pruned a bunch of stuff off my seeding torrents and out of my ISOs folder
[19:59] <Roey> OerHeks: yeah, I'm on 18.10, rather
[19:59] <Roey> Valorike.
[19:59] <Roey> *Valorie.
[19:59] <valorie> lol
[19:59] <Roey> so when I dist-upgraded to 18.10,
[20:00] <Roey> I just hit <enter> at a bunch of prompts to get it going already
[20:00] <Roey> valorie: when the upgrade completed, I could no longer find my motherboard's onboard sound device in pavucontrol
[20:00] <Roey> so I had no analogue out, essentially.
[20:00] <valorie> interesting
[20:01] <Roey> I just solved the issue this morning, thanks to someone's help here
[20:01] <valorie> sounds like some config got mangled or something
[20:01] <Roey> whom I am trying to remember.
[20:01] <Roey> anyway,
[20:01] <Roey> it turns out that the din the pulse audio config file,
[20:01] <Roey> the lines loading the sound drivers had been commented out
[20:01] <valorie> weird
[20:01] <Roey> what I think happened was that the system's file had gotten replace with a stock config file
[20:01] <valorie> probably
[20:01] <Roey> I should always check those prompts
[20:01] <Roey> ;)
[20:01] <valorie> heh
[20:07] <carbonzero> there's a bug with 19.04 I found yesterday with the software sources.
[20:07] <carbonzero> I tried to to get into it with my password and I've got a screen print of the error it gave me. Simon Quigley's said he'd fix it.
[20:08] <carbonzero> I'm just relaying the issue here so all of you know, too, in case you didn't.
[20:08] <Eickmeyer> carbonzero: They do.
[20:09] <carbonzero> Eickmeyer, hey! ok. I just came online finally and thought I'd relay that message just in case.
[20:25] <valorie> carbonzero: many of us have "bouncers" or use matrix so that we can read scrollback of the channel
[21:53] <IrcsomeBot2> developerkoller was added by: developerkoller
[23:29] <Greenfrog> when i first put in a cd rom in kubuntu it asked what do u want to do with this media? i made a mistake and said do nothing. how do i change that option?
[23:29] <Greenfrog> i know dumb d dumb dumb
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[23:35] <Greenfrog> what was that?
[23:41] <valorie> Greenfrog: put it in again?
[23:42] <valorie> it should offer you the choice each time
[23:42] <valorie> it's not dumb -- sometimes you want it mounted, sometimes you don't
[23:42] <valorie> I mean, not a dumb choice
[23:47] <aesthe> I have started using Kubuntu 18.04 on my work laptop and have come across an error with the company that I cant seem to workaround
[23:47] <valorie> error with the company?
[23:47] <valorie> what company
[23:47] <aesthe> I cant get an xl2tpd/ipsec connection to ppp
[23:48] <valorie> and what error?
[23:48] <Sven_G> You can always mount it using Dolphin, and then run whatever software you want to use it separately.
[23:48] <valorie> !ppp
[23:48] <aesthe> Dolphin?
[23:48] <valorie> aesthe: Sven_G was answering another question
[23:48] <valorie> the !ppp answer is for you
[23:48] <Sven_G> Thanks, valorie.
[23:49] <aesthe> OK
[23:49] <valorie> :-)
[23:49] <valorie> I'm not sure we have a working dialer application anymore
[23:49] <valorie> so few computers have modems now
[23:49] <valorie> no way to test anymore
[23:50] <aesthe> I'm also wondering if it would be better if I downgraded to an older kernel
[23:51] <valorie> is your computer rather old?
[23:51] <aesthe> my colleague was able to get a connection going on Debian with the 4.9 kernel
[23:51] <valorie> Debian is ofter older software, yes
[23:51] <valorie> often
[23:51] <aesthe> No its an x1 carbon 6th gen
[23:51] <valorie> and it has a modem?
[23:52] <aesthe> modem, I wouldnt think so
[23:52] <valorie> I've not seen a modem in a laptop for a decade
[23:52] <valorie> I can't even remember the last one with a modem