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Guest71251hi00:17
Guest71251where i can learn more about DNS leaks00:18
Guest71251?00:18
SDrhi guys, using Ubuntu Jessie in a docker build, I'm getting: W: Failed to fetch http://deb.debian.org/debian/dists/jessie-updates/main/binary-amd64/Packages  404  Not Found00:20
guivercSDr   Jessie is the name of a debian release, not a Ubuntu one.00:20
guivercSDr, Jessie is the name of a ToyStory character; as used by debian releases (outside of older releases pre-ToyStory) -- all of which are off-topic here00:22
SDrguiverc, understood, thank you.00:32
Harishello all00:54
Harison 14.04, in apache, for status mod, I'v configured require ip line. but its still opening /server-status for all other configured vhosts?00:55
Harisregardless00:55
leftyfbHaris: is this a new install?00:56
Harisnope. a very old one00:56
leftyfbHaris: you do know it will be EOL in exactly 31 days right?00:57
Harisits like the require ip or require all denied line has no affect00:57
Harisyes00:57
HarisI have to fix this security bug in prod00:57
Harisits showing out /server-status globally, regardless00:57
leftyfbHaris: have you tried #ubuntu-server or #apache? They might be better suited for this sort of issue00:57
OerHekshttps://serverfault.com/questions/876115/unable-to-limit-apache-server-status-page-to-localhost maybe your answer00:59
Harisrequire local was already configured01:01
HarisI removed it to test just now01:01
Hariswhat context does ubuntu load the httpd modules enabled config files in?01:05
kordy-Kunjoin mmeeks01:28
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pi0do ppl still use bridge and tap02:07
OerHekssystemd? https://askubuntu.com/questions/978629/let-systemd-create-tun-tap-device-at-startup02:12
pi0do ppl still use that?02:20
pi0thank you02:20
kreyrencan someone give me default sources.list?03:23
OerHeksBy default there will be a backup for your sources.list file on the same directory itself. /etc/apt/sources.list.save03:25
kreyrenis not03:26
OerHekson 18.04 it should be03:27
kreyrenit's 18.10 and i'm using bedrock strata, probably bug.. -> need to make it myself03:27
kreyrensane? `deb http://cz.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ cosmic main restricted universe multiverse contrib non-free`03:27
sauvin"Ubuntu 16.04 will be supported for 5 years", meaning, it goes EOL in 2021 if my arithmetic hasn't gone totally South. I'm running Kubuntu 16.04. Will this receive the same full support for that time?03:30
kreyrenhttp://ix.io/1EQr sane?03:32
OerHekssauvin, 3 years03:32
OerHekshttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/XenialXerus/ReleaseNotes/Kubuntu#Support_lifespan03:32
sauvinThat means Kubuntu 16.04 goes EOL in a few days, then?03:33
OerHeksi think so, yes.03:33
sauvinHow safe is it to click on the little button that pops up "A new version is available! Upgrade now!"?03:34
* sauvin has never done a dist upgrade03:34
swift110sup sauvin03:35
sauvinNot much, wassup with you?03:36
OerHeks1. download the fresh 18,04 iso and put on usb. 2. no backup of data means data is not important 3. have fun upgrading!03:38
sauvinYeah, that's what I *usually* do. Installing a new distro takes about twenty minutes. What takes forever is re-installing all my STUFF.03:39
kreyrenah i sent wrong URL, New URL http://ix.io/1EQs, requesting sanity check ty03:40
Bashing-omsauvin: ' ubuntu-support-status ' . I expect that you will see that the kernel (main) is supported for 5 years.03:40
kreyrencan i use `deb rsync://mirror.dkm.cz/ubuntu/...` ?03:41
sauvinBashing-om, from what I'm reading, Ubuntu BASE is supported for five years. It's the KDE stuff on top of it that'll start to wobble.03:41
Bashing-omsauvin: Yup .03:42
OerHeksi imagine rsync would be usefull for a private mirror03:42
* sauvin is busily emptying out a partition03:42
the2048So I'm planning to install Ubuntu to my ThinkPad once I get it to boot (odd things are happening). Any specific flavour I should use? (I use Ubuntu MATE across most of my Linux stuff)03:44
* the2048 is going to ask #ubuntu-offtopic as well03:45
kreyrensources.list seems to work.. thanks for help (y)03:47
kreyrenwhat is executable for snapstore?03:59
sauvinkreyren, huh?04:00
kreyreni want to open snapstore via terminal04:00
kreyrensince i'm not using gnome and i can't find the shortcut04:01
sauvinThis is for snap apps?04:01
kreyrenyep store for snap apps04:01
kreyren-> so that i can install snaps04:01
sauvinDo you already have some snaps installed?04:01
OerHekssnap instal <package>04:02
sauvinThat would be "install", I think.04:02
kreyrensnap not present, is there a package for it?04:02
sauvinI tend to *find* stuff with something like snap find04:02
OerHeksehm, even 18.10 has snap standard04:03
kreyrenthis is not standart setup04:03
OerHeksthis smells wonky04:03
OerHeksLoLz04:03
sauvinWhat's the setup?04:03
kreyrenBedrock Linux 0.7.2 with ubuntu strata04:03
OerHeksoh, and you make it a frankensteinubuntu :-D04:04
OerHeksgood luck04:04
sauvinYeah, you're going to have to find a Frankenbuntu channel.04:04
kreyrennot franken it's running in containers using chroot() o.o04:04
kreyrenhttps://docs.snapcraft.io/installing-snap-on-ubuntu/6740 got it i think04:05
kreyrenyep got it :D04:08
kreyrenty04:08
kreyrenyou dont have steam snap?04:10
OerHeksdid you look in snapcraft.io store?04:12
kreyrenyep https://snapcraft.io/search?q=Steam04:12
kreyrenor like how do you get steam on ubuntu?04:13
kreyrenah steam-installer04:13
kreyrenwhich is broken lol04:14
xamithanYou use the steam PPA04:14
kreyrenwhere is steam ppa?04:14
kreyrenhttps://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/steam ?04:15
* kreyren wonders why is ubuntu more complicated then gentoo04:15
Mr_Cyclopslotuspsychje, Hello! :)04:15
OerHekskreyren, you are not official in title for support, so rant away with your wonky setup04:16
xamithanDon't know,  I always installed the package from the steam website04:16
lotuspsychjeMr_Cyclops: morning04:16
kreyrenOerHeks: again this is _NOT_ Frankenbuntu04:16
kreyrenfrankenubuntu == system that uses packages from debian and ubuntu or other package managers -> this is container using chroot()04:17
Mr_Cyclopslotuspsychje, morning, though the clock just went pass midnight here. Btw, see you in ubuntu-discus04:18
gambl0refirefox is using hight cpu usage04:20
gambl0reanyone know how to fix this04:20
xamithanHow many tabs you got open04:21
anibichi04:25
kreyrengambl0re: compile it from source it uses less system resources when it doesn't have to support everything04:27
sauvinHrm. Clicking on the "Upgrade" button in Plasma Discover has precisely zero effect.04:28
* kreyren still doesn't know how to get steam on ubuntu04:29
* kreyren finds too much spam about different methods where neither of them works04:30
lotuspsychjekreyren: dont use notices in the support channel please04:31
kreyrenlotuspsychje: meaning04:31
sauvinI didn't see any notices.04:31
kreyren+104:31
lotuspsychjesauvin: * kreyren finds too much spam about different methods where neither of them works04:32
kreyrenelaborate04:32
sauvinThat wasn't a notice. It was an action.04:33
lotuspsychjekreyren: in #ubuntu-discuss04:33
kreyrenlotuspsychje: https://www.google.com/search?client=ubuntu&channel=fs&q=ubuntu+steam&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-804:33
kreyrenyou have better way to describe it?04:33
kreyren-> resolving issue with steam on ubuntu04:33
kreyren-> is support matter04:34
sauvinGoddamn it, I'm trying to do a dist upgrade, and all the repos are updated and all the latest packages are installed with sudo apt-get upgrade, but when I try to kdesudo "do-release-upgrade -m desktop -f DistUpgradeViewKDE", it says "please update all your packages".04:34
guivercsauvin, `sudo apt upgrade` can leave some behind; do a dist-upgrade or full-upgrade to ensure all packages are upgraded before do-release-upgrade  (and please skip the language @ start)04:36
kreyrensauvin: assuming that your /etc/apt/sources.list* and /etc/update-manager/release-upgrades is set appropriately for said version?04:36
sauvinkreyren, not for the target version, just for the current version. guiverc: noted.04:37
kreyrenwhy do you need a do-release-upgrade then? it's used to upgrade whole system on new version afaik04:37
sauvinapt-get full-upgrade doesn't upgrade anything.04:37
guivercsauvin, `apt-get dist-upgrade`  (or apt full-upgrade) - full-upgrade is an apt option.04:38
kreyrenapt != apt-get ?04:38
sauvinNothing is updating, and do-release-upgrade is saying "install all available updates".04:39
sauvinThis is officially a Catch-22.04:39
kreyrensauvin: elaborate on what are you doing?04:40
sauvinTrying to jump from Kubuntu 16.04 to 18.04 using do-release-upgrade.04:40
kreyrensent output of `cat /etc/apt/sources.list` and `cat /etc/update-manager/release-upgrades`04:41
sauvinI understand now why the plasma-discover "upgrade" button has zero effect. It thinks the package manager is confused.04:41
guivercsauvin, you possibly need to reboot for all your upgrades to take effect (or restart services etc - reboot is often faster)..04:41
sauvinI'll try a reboot, but nothing sugggested a reboot would be needed.04:41
kreyrensauvin: ping me if ubuntu ppl tell you to reinstall :p04:42
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anibicI am using 18.10 . I have a GTX 560Ti discreet card on my system. I have two notification of Nvidia drivers version 340.107 and version 390 which is tested. However installing any of them renders my computer to 600x400 which I am unable to change.05:13
yvyznvidia-xconfig and then nvidia-settings should help05:14
anibicin terminal ?05:15
yvyzyes05:15
yvyznvidia-xconfig will update your xorg.conf file05:15
anibicshould I add sudo ?05:16
yvyzno need05:16
yvyzwell I guess it wont hurt05:16
yvyzsudo nvidia-xconfig <- will update the xorg.conf file and sudo nvidia-settings will give you a gui to change your resolution05:17
anibicWhich driver should I download ?05:18
anibic390 or 340 ?05:18
yvyz39005:19
anibicWill I get the NVidia control panel ?05:20
yvyzthat is nvidia-settings05:20
sauvinMany updates, upgrades and a couple of reboots later, and do-release-upgrade still adamantly tells me to install all available updates.05:24
sauvinIt is BROKEN.05:24
Ben64sauvin: pastebin 'sudo apt update && sudo apt full-upgrade'05:26
sauvinDid that. Nothing upgrades.05:27
lotuspsychjesauvin: from wich release to wich?05:27
sauvinTrying to go from 16.04 to 18.04.05:27
lotuspsychje!ltsupgrade05:28
ubottuUpgrade from 16.04 to current 18.04 is now available, if you do not receive the upgrade window try update-manager -c05:28
lotuspsychjethere was this bug about update-manager before on 16.04 i recall05:29
sauvindo-release-upgrade is catatonic, so, maybe update-manager will fare better.05:30
sauvin(when the !@#$@%# finally installs....)05:30
sauvinOH... hey... duya tee eff, man.... do-release-upgrade is doing something now.05:32
sauvinI didn't do anything except apt install update-manager.05:33
kev9Hey guys there used to be a command to switch opengl from nvidia to mesa without uninstalling the nvidia drivers, but as of 18.10 it stopped working. It was something like update-alternatives... how to do this?06:06
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MoonsilenceGood morning!08:10
liquid-silenceHello!08:11
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lotuspsychjewelcome Moonsilence liquid-silence08:18
liquid-silencequiet here today08:24
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lotuspsychjeliquid-silence: its because this isnt a chat, but support room08:32
trafaret1o/08:33
trafaret1I have question. Maybe anybody know the problem. I have ubuntu bionic 18.04 and want to use texlive wiht tlmgr package manager. I can't install packages cus of Remote repository is newer than local (2017 < 2018)". Does it possible to install texlive 2018 on ubuntu bionic 18.04?08:36
trafaret1note: I have 32bit core08:37
guiverctrafaret1, maybe useful - https://github.com/blang/latex-docker/issues/2108:52
TrangarWhenever I try to install ubuntu, I get dropped in a prompt with the name "initramfs", does anyone know an article on how to debug what went wrong?09:18
stinklegi have a clean, updated 16.04. the ALT+TAB window switching is showing the normal switcher and an opengl-accelerated switcher ontop of that.. how do I get rid of it?09:32
XATRIXCan you advice ? I can't install TeamViewer on 18.0409:42
XATRIXhttps://pastebin.com/FyhijS0S09:42
XATRIXI can't install libqt5gui5 as well09:43
XATRIXhttps://pastebin.com/9W6QJn0t09:43
guivercTrangar, if an install failed; the first thing I would do is verify the install-media (I do this before install usually; but always if there was a problem; the secs it takes save hours-days of diagnosis)09:53
guivercXATRIX, https://packages.ubuntu.com/search?suite=all&searchon=names&keywords=libqt5widgets5 shows the libqt5widgets5 looks fine to me, so I'd check your sources, and ensure you are using a valid & up-to-date mirror09:55
guivercXATRIX, check your mirror on https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+archivemirrors   (if using a country mirror, ping it to get IP & whois to work out who provides it if it's unknown to you)09:56
ledeniXATRIX: download latest pacakage for teamviewer  teamviewer_14.2.2558_amd64.deb09:57
XATRIXcan you take a look on this: http://i.imgur.com/hV7o8IF.png09:58
XATRIXI removed installed packages of teamviewer, and tried to reinstall libqt5gui5, but still no go09:58
XATRIXi'll check the mirror as for now09:58
guivercXATRIX, the key with that link was any mirror that has "Last update unknown" (meaning the counter is beyond it's limit) should be changed to the main, or another...10:00
guilhermehi10:02
guivercHi guilherme, if you have a Ubuntu Support question, please just ask it (ideally in a single line, and be patient as someone will answer when & if they can)10:03
XATRIXguiverc: http://i.imgur.com/fSVaSxm.png10:05
XATRIXthat's the mirror i'm on10:05
XATRIXdo i have to switch to main ?10:05
guiverc1 day behind - mirror is not your problem.  I'd check your sources; eg. `apt-cache policy [the package I looked up before]`10:06
XATRIXnot installed, but there's a candidate for10:07
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guivercXATRIX, single lines only, pastebinit if multi-line please10:08
XATRIXgot it10:08
XATRIXguiverc: https://paste.debian.net/1075298/10:09
XATRIXchek this pls10:09
guivercXATRIX, sorry I missed the key line - this is not your problem; you have unfixed issues from before that command that need fixing first "You might want to run 'apt --fix-broken install' to correct these"10:11
XATRIX0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.10:12
XATRIXdo i really have ?10:12
XATRIXapt says nothing to fix\install10:13
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guivercXATRIX, i gotta step away for awhile, you'll have to wait or someone maybe can help10:13
XATRIXyea, anyway thanks for advice. good luck!10:13
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BluesKaj'Morning folks10:18
XATRIXthis is what happend with10:19
XATRIXhttps://pastebin.com/BF0MQA6E10:19
XATRIXhow can i downgrade that lib ?10:19
XATRIXwithout it complete removal10:19
lavinhojeremy31: oi10:24
mozgiiiHi, does anyone know why is linux-image-generic-hwe-18.04-edge 5.0.0.8.66 in not available in the repos? Further - why is it installed in my system - I don't have Canonical Kernel Team PPA enabled10:27
mozgiiiI see it comes from bionic-proposed/main - but why is it broken then?10:31
mozgiiiAren't those supposed to be stable?10:31
mozgiii(I mean not "tested", but at least no absent packages)10:32
mariamaria10:37
BluesKajmozgiii, because tyhere was a kernel upgrade this morning10:38
mozgiiiBluesKaj: so? is it broken on every update? I'm asking because I need to decide what proposed means - it in the standard repos, but it behaves just as a no-guarantees PPA...10:44
BluesKajmozgiii, stay away from proposed ppas, they are basically untested dev packages10:46
mozgiiiI thought I knew what I was signing for when I enabled it, but seems like it's a bit different10:46
mozgiiiBluesKaj: I'm ok with that, but not ok with kernel annoying me by the partially-completed builds blocking updates :) I'll just disable it for now10:48
mozgiiithx10:50
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echeveriahatesmeno, it assumes the free market can find the best solution. if someone is being too immoral, customers won't buy from them and nobody will work for them11:07
echeveriahatesmesorry11:07
echeveriahatesmeI wasn't meant to post that.11:07
echeveriahatesmeMy keyboard is acting a bit iffy.11:07
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longcatecormier: please take the off topic spam somewhere else.11:09
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Trangarguiverc: turns out windows still had the disk locked, I had to boot into windows, shut down properly, and then it worked11:18
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KyrosI believe if you disable hibernation in windows you wont ever have to deal with that again11:26
bugtraqbuna la toti11:29
bugtraqeste vreun roman pe aici_11:30
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bugtraqstie cineva de ce nu se poate instala pe un getac s400 g2 ubuntu?11:30
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cfhowlett!ping12:11
ubottupong!12:11
obiwangeobihello everyone. i am having a hard time. i have spent a while trying to install linux and was only successful by installing the ubuntu server then adding ubuntu-desktop on top of it. but i am still getting tons of crashes and segmentation faults and lzma errors when trying to unpack files to install. need any help i can get to be honest12:13
EriC^^obiwangeobi: which programs are you trying to install?12:14
EriC^^which ubuntu version are you sing?12:14
EriC^^*using12:14
obiwangeobiso far when i run firefox it crashes every few seconds. which makes searching for answers a little difficult. and the lzma error comes for any archive i try to extract.12:15
obiwangeobiwhen i run apt update it will work one time then the next it will say segmentation fault12:15
EriC^^obiwangeobi: try launching firefox from a terminal in case it gives any errors there, also paste the apt-get update error and look in "dmesg -w" for anything that shows up12:17
realnothi all o/12:19
realnotis possible to set the size of a windows to a certain value? (for example 1920x1080)12:20
EriC^^realnot: look into "devilspie"12:20
realnotI'm using gnome-boxes to virtualize windows 10. Inside windows I can select different screen resolution like 1920x1080 and 2560x1600. But my monitor has 2560x144012:21
realnotso i thought to resize gnome-boxes exactly to 1920x1080 (the same on windows guest)12:21
realnotEriC^^: cool12:22
EriC^^usually in virtualbox for instance if you set the guest to a certain resolution it sets the window to the same size, maybe there's a gnome-boxes setting somewhere?12:23
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realnotEriC^^: no, can't find it12:31
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kreyrenme ubuntu broken, help me http://dpaste.com/3AQ3BWT12:43
MonkeyDustkreyren: what's the output of ~/Downloads12:49
MonkeyDustkreyren: what's the output of ls ~/Downloads12:49
kreyrenwhy is output of Downloads relevant?12:51
ayekatlooks like /run/snapd.socket is missing, so I'd guess that snapd is not running12:55
kreyrenwhat is snapd.socket12:55
ayekata socket file, used to communicate with the snap daemon12:56
kreyrennoted, how do i fix it?12:56
ayekatI don't use snaps, so I can't tell more - but I'd guess that checking if snapd runs would be first thing12:57
MonkeyDustkreyren: looks like atom doesnt sit in the repos, so you must hae downloaded it, that's why it's relevant12:58
MonkeyDust!find atom12:59
ubottuFound: libatomic-ops-dev, libatomic1, libatomic1-arm64-cross, libatomic1-armhf-cross, libatomic1-dbg, libatomic1-powerpc-cross, libatomic1-ppc64el-cross, libboost-atomic1.65-dev, libboost-atomic1.65.1, libx32atomic1 (and 110 others) http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=atom&searchon=names&suite=bionic&section=all12:59
kreyrenMonkeyDust: installing it from provided .deb is not an option atm12:59
kreyrenayekat: snapd || snap service doesn't exist13:00
kreyrenayekat: there is Daemons option in snap command, but it doesn't seem to be recognized13:00
kreyrenUsage: snap <command> [<options>...] -> snap Daemonds --help -> syntax err13:00
kreyrenseems to depend on systemd13:01
kreyrenprobably13:01
ayekatI'd expect there to be a snapd.service or something at the least13:02
ayekatmaybe also snapd.socket13:02
kreyrenayekat: `sudo rc-update -v show | grep snap` outputs blank -> service not present13:03
ayekatkreyren: well, it doesn't exactly *depend* on systemd - it merely provides unit files to let systemd manage it13:03
ayekatkreyren: but the package probably doesn't provide anything for other supervisors, because ubuntu runs with systemd13:04
kreyren>ubuntu runs with systemd13:04
kreyrenmeaning13:04
ayekatkreyren: so if you want it to work with an initscripts-based supervisor, you'll probably have to write your own initscript :-)13:04
kreyrenah13:04
kreyrenmb missread it13:04
kreyrenwriting custom initscript is an option, but i dont know what is required to start it13:05
ayekatkreyren: read the docs :-)13:05
kreyrenyou dont know?13:05
ayekatkreyren: I mean, if you switch out one of the core components of a system, I'd expect you to know a bit better how to maintain that system13:06
ayekatkreyren: no, I use systemd13:06
ayekatI'm happy we've left the days of initscripts behind, to be honest13:06
kreyrenoutput of `apt-cache rdepends snapd`?13:07
kreyren-> list deps of snapd13:07
* kreyren prefers initscripts over stopjobs any day13:07
ayekatyeah, well I'm not here to have a systemd debate - but fact is: ubuntu packages are built to work with systemd13:08
ayekateverything else is your responsibility13:08
kreyrenlike i can start systemd, but i would rather not13:09
kreyrenisn't there any other channel where i could ask to get the answer i'm looking for without the need to read the docs, because i'm lazy?13:10
ayekatif you're too lazy to read the docs, then why did you do something like replacing systemd...? O_o13:10
kreyrenbecause i hate wasting time with systemd issues that are not present on openrc that is also faster o_o13:14
ayekatwell, right now you're wasting your time with issues you get because you are not using systemd - how's that better?13:15
kreyreni solve it once -> make PR to bedrock and i won't have to care about that issue anymore13:15
kreyren-> i will resolve simmilar issues faster thanks to informations gathered from previous issue13:16
kreyren-> if it can improve effectiveness of my system by 0,0001% it's worth of my time :p13:16
ayekatI mean - I rarely use the defaults, and I often change stuff to behave differently as well - but then I know I'm on my own and have to resolve issues on my own, and I don't go ask basic support questions13:16
kreyreni dont think it's basic assuming that the error is not helpful and it's faster to ask sometimes then self-diagnosing it.. + it's ubuntu have you ever seen non-basic question here lol13:18
ayekatalso, this is #ubuntu, so it's pretty much the wrong place to ask for bedrock+openrc questions13:18
kreyrenasking ubuntu questions13:18
ayekatyes, but with a problem that is not happening on ubuntu13:18
kreyrenhttps://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/snapd/+bug/1631514 https://forum.snapcraft.io/t/snap-d-error-cannot-communicate-with-server-connection-refused/6093 https://github.com/Microsoft/WSL/issues/297213:19
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1631514 in snapd (Ubuntu) "snap doesnt work. error: cannot communicate with server" [Undecided,Expired]13:19
* kreyren hmmmmmmmmmmmmm13:19
ayekatkreyren: yes, none of these issues are relevant13:21
kreyrenwhy not13:21
ayekatthe first one is someone using manjaro, the second one is someone having weird permissions on one of the relevant directories, and the third one... is WSL13:21
ayekatalso, I've got things to do, and since you've already been trolling on #debian, I will drop my "assume good faith" cloak now - good bye13:22
kreyrenall of which are ubuntu excluding the arch linux part13:22
kreyrennot trolling, trying to solve it13:23
kreyrenand was interested what is your argument13:23
kreyrenty for info tho13:23
LvdThello, I’m having some issues booting from a live USB, can someone help me with it?13:24
MonkeyDustLvdT: what happens when you try13:24
kreyrenwhat is your filesystem LvdT13:24
LvdTit says “failed to open \EFI\UBUNTU\grubx64.efi”13:25
LvdTand indeed there is no such folder, but it’s \EFI\BOOT on the USB disk13:25
LvdTmy filesystem... on the USB? I just wrote the iso using the startup disk creator13:25
kreyrenLvdT: is there such folder on provided source? if so your ubuntu image failed to be parsed on your bootable device13:27
LvdTno, as I said, the folder on the USB disk is named BOOT and not UBUNTU13:27
LvdTbut I apparently can’t rename it13:27
kreyrenwhat source are you using for ubuntu image13:27
LvdTI downloaded both the 18.10 and 19.04-beta from the official ubuntu site13:28
kreyrenURL?13:28
LvdTactually the 18.10 came from the torrent13:28
LvdThttp://releases.ubuntu.com/18.10/ubuntu-18.10-desktop-amd64.iso.torrent13:28
LvdTthis is the one I’m trying to use now13:29
kreyrenchecking13:29
kreyrenand what is your filesystem on the bootable device13:30
kreyrenexpected FAT16, FAT3213:31
LvdToutput from fdisk is: /dev/sdd1  *          0 3905279 3905280  1.9G  0 Empty and /dev/sdd2       3828884 3833811    4928  2.4M ef EFI (FAT-12/16/32)13:33
kreyrenseems sane13:33
LvdTwell, the first partition is type 0 which seems odd13:33
LvdTbut I have no idea how a live USB is supposed to work13:33
kreyrenBIOS usually needs 2MB of unformatted partition on the beginning of the bootable device, but your issue doesn't seem to be related to that13:34
ayekatLvdT: is it possible that you've had something Ubuntu-related installed on that machine previously?13:35
LvdTI’m running ubuntu there right now, it’s how I’m chatting13:36
LvdTI bought a new SSD and I need to install the OS on that one now13:36
ayekatbecause the boot device itself doesn't appear to reference EFI/UBUNTU in any way, so perhaps it's just an entry in your firmware (and the ISO is actually fine)13:36
ayekatLvdT: check the output of `efibootmgr -v`13:37
ayekatLvdT: perhaps there's an entry there that references \EFI\UBUNTU\…13:37
kreyrenLvdT: if installation is looking for /EFI/UBUNTU/grubx64.efi but /EFI/BOOT/grubx64.efi is present i would try to rename BOOT -> UBUNTU13:38
ayekatkreyren: the install device is probably fine13:38
LvdTBoot0000* ubuntuHD(1,MBR,0x98ccaab7,0x800,0x5f000)/File(\EFI\UBUNTU\SHIMX64.EFI)13:38
ayekatalso you can't rename anything in there, because it's read-only anyway13:38
ayekatLvdT: ah, voilà - that's probably the culprit :-)13:38
LvdTkreyren, that was my first try, but the option to rename is greyed out13:38
kreyrenLvdT: invoke `sudo nautilus` and rename it this way assuming you dont have permission13:39
LvdTtried that13:39
ayekatkreyren: it won't work, again13:39
ayekatkreyren: it's a read-only filesystem13:39
kreyrenmount it as rw then13:39
ayekat...13:39
ayekatstop it13:39
LvdTayekat, so... how do I fix that?13:39
kreyrenayekat: what that's how i would solve it o.o13:39
ayekatLvdT: so you said there is already an ubuntu installed on your machine?13:40
LvdTyup, there is13:40
ayekatand do you have the EFI system partition on the hard drive mounted? (the one that's responsible for booting your ubuntu)13:41
ayekatit is probably mounted as /boot or /boot/efi, not sure13:41
kreyrenLvdT: does /sys/firmware/EFI exists on your current ubuntu?13:41
LvdTlooks like I do13:42
ayekatbut there should then be an EFI directory underneath - check if it contains an UBUNTU directory - if not, that Boot0000 entry is probably bogus and can be removed13:42
LvdT /dev/sdc1 mounted as /boot/efi13:42
ayekatLvdT: also, please paste the full output of efibootmgr somewhere13:42
jeremy31LvdT: post url from terminal> efibootmgr | nc termbin.com 999913:43
LvdTayekat: https://pastebin.com/unpHjSuX13:43
LvdTjeremy31, https://termbin.com/vcy013:44
LvdTas for the contents of EFI: there’s a BOOT folder and a ubuntu folder (lowercase)13:44
ayekatalright, so the entries are probably actually fine13:45
kreyrenwhat about copying BOOT into UBUNTU which is expected assuming that EFI/BOOT is required for runtime too13:45
LvdTI’d rather not mess up the configuration of my “working” system, especially since I’m not sure at this point I’d be able to reinstall it13:46
kreyrennot your working system, just the bootable device13:46
ayekatkreyren: again, you can't modify it - it's read-only13:46
LvdTI can’t modify anything on the USB...13:46
ayekatand it's also just a poor attempt at fixing the symptoms13:46
kreyrenayekat: mount it a rw assuming it's mounted of working system to be modified13:46
ayekatLvdT: how do you boot from the USB? F2/F12/… something before the system starts?13:47
LvdTF12, oddly enough there is two options for the disk13:47
kreyrenagree that it's poor attempt13:47
ayekatkreyren: no, you cannot13:47
kreyrenwhy not13:47
ayekatkreyren: I repeat - the FILESYSTEM is read-only13:47
ayekatkreyren: it doesn't support writing13:47
kreyrenwhy is not mounting it as rw an option13:47
LvdTone is named ubuntu (toshiba whatever diskname) and the other just toshiba whatever diskname13:48
ayekatkreyren: it doesn't. support. writing. the filesystem. it doesn't. support. it.13:48
ayekatkreyren: it's exactly as if you had inserted a CD - you can't write to the CD13:48
kreyrendoubt.. it's FAT3213:48
ayekatkreyren: that's the kind of filesystem on that USB13:48
ayekatkreyren: doesn't matter13:49
kreyrendoubt, how did he get the ubuntu on it in the first time then13:49
ayekatLvdT: do you have secure-boot enabled or something?13:49
kreyren+113:49
ayekatkreyren: dd - but that's a different layer13:49
LvdTuh... I have no idea? do I have to check in the bios for that?13:49
ayekatkreyren: sure, you can modify the bits and bytes on the disk directly - but not by mounting the filesystem13:49
kreyrenyou can mount it as read+write on linux.. thats like core functionality of fstab13:50
ayekatkreyren: *sigh*13:50
ayekatkreyren: ok, go, try and see13:50
ayekatkreyren: come back when you can actually prove what you claim13:51
kreyrenk13:51
LvdTayekat, do I need to check in the bios for secureboot, or is there a way to find out from the OS?13:51
jeremy31lvdt, in ubuntu termina> mokutil --sb-state13:52
LvdTdisabled13:52
ayekatLvdT: to be honest, at this point I'm just guessing - it appears as if the firmware can't find the EFI files on the USB, but I'm not knowledgable enough in that area13:52
LvdTwould trying a different USB stick help?13:53
ayekatit may be worth a try - the Toshiba options are only for the internal disk, I assume (unless you've got a toshiba USB drive)13:54
LvdTyeah, the toshiba is the USB13:54
ayekatah13:54
LvdTalthough it doesn’t say toshiba on the stick itself... but it’s always been labelled that way13:54
kreyrenayekat: https://i.imgur.com/4T13CL1.png hmmmmmmmmm13:55
ayekatkreyren: you missed the point entirely13:55
ayekatkreyren: mount an ubuntu (or any other OS installation) live disk, and try modifying things in there13:55
kreyrenayekat: /dev/sda2 on /mnt/test type vfat (rw,relatime,fmask=0022,dmask=0022,codepage=437,iocharset=iso8859-1,shortname=mixed,errors=remount-ro)13:56
ayekatyes, I don't care13:56
LvdTactually yeah, it’s not vfat13:56
LvdTmtab gives me /dev/sdd1 /media/irene/Ubuntu\04018.10\040amd64 iso966013:56
ayekatyes, and ISO-9660 is what's typically used for CDs and DVDs13:57
ayekatlike - read-only media13:57
ayekatyou can then put a FAT filesystem on top of that (again, not knowledgable enough for the details), and you get essentially a read-only FAT13:57
LvdTwell, I found another USB stick, it’s Snail.0, but it’s worth a try13:58
ayekatLvdT: how did you write the USB, by the way?13:59
LvdTstartup disk creator13:59
ayekatas you've got an Ubuntu at your hands, maybe just try with dd13:59
ayekati.e. sudo dd if=theubuntu.iso of=/dev/sdx  (where sdx is your USB drive - careful)13:59
LvdTyup, I used to do it all by hand once14:00
kreyrenayekat: https://i.imgur.com/6PRttcp.png hmmmmmm14:00
LvdTI’ll try that when this one is done writing14:00
ayekatkreyren: now you're just trolling14:01
kreyrenayekat: nah you just export this to .iso now or export it on FAT32 bootable device14:01
kreyren*like normal ppl*14:02
ayekatkreyren: sure, but that's something else - you essentially regenerate an ISO14:02
kreyrenayekat: which reaches expected result14:02
kreyrenLvdT: netinstall not an option?14:02
kreyrenhttp://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/cosmic-updates/main/installer-amd64/current/images/netboot/14:03
LvdTis netinstall on the server image?14:03
ayekatalso have fun generating the ISO that way, because you'll be missing quite a bunch of other things that are on the rest of the ISO14:03
LvdToh, there... I can try that one as well14:04
kreyrenLvdT: i think that provided link is desktop tho14:05
kreyrenchecking14:05
LvdTno, no, I meant to ask if the netinstall image was the server image, because those are the only two “easily available” options on the website14:06
kreyrendoubt it assuming that mini.iso is neither afaik14:06
LvdTyup, I understand now14:06
kreyrenhttp://cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases/18.04.2/release/ubuntu-18.04.2-server-amd64.iso mby?14:06
kreyrenfrom http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases/18.04.2/release/?_ga=2.224977690.1041228742.1553918599-846810610.155391859914:07
ayekatthe mini.iso doesn't support UEFI, also14:07
ayekathttps://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/MinimalCD <- but it tells you to use the server image instead14:07
kreyrenit's mini.iso it supports nothing as expected14:07
LvdToh, I think (I’m not so sure) that I had issues when I first installed this computer and tried using a non-UEFI image14:07
LvdTit was my first UEFI system, so... yeah14:08
kreyrencan't you pick server installation on netinstall btw. ?14:08
kreyrenafaik possible on debian and opengeeko14:08
ayekatdebian doesn't really distinguish between "server" and "desktop"14:08
kreyrenthere isn't much difference anyway14:09
LvdTwell, I’ll be rebooting now and trying to see if it works using another stick, or if the dd-written stick works14:10
LvdTthanks for the assistance for now14:10
ayekatgood luck14:10
Jon30hey guys, does someone know of a good png compression (command line) tool? pngquant seems allright, but I need something that can get me result similar to tinypng's14:10
cacasottociao14:11
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msmarcalJon30: https://pngquant.org/ ?14:21
rapidwaveWhere do I find Android SDK to provide to Eclipse?14:35
rapidwaveI mean on the system14:35
LvdTwell, turns out the other USB stick worked14:41
LvdTso problem solved, just popping by to say thanks again14:42
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qwebirc15374Hi All15:13
lotuspsychjewelcome qwebirc1537415:14
qwebirc15374I am getting "Unexpected SPCR Access Width" error while install from USB drive.15:14
qwebirc15374Please help me.15:14
lotuspsychjeqwebirc15374: wich ubuntu did you burn on your usb, and wich tool did you use?15:15
qwebirc15374I download "kubuntu-18.04.2-desktop-amd64.iso"15:17
qwebirc15374Tool is "rufus-3.5"15:17
lotuspsychjeqwebirc15374: so you getting this error at boot text? stops there? ir during install?15:18
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lotuspsychjeqwebirc15374: what kind of system is that? Os, ram? hd? brand?15:22
faLUCEhow can I check which programs installed with apt are yousing "somepackage" ?15:22
programator_311i dont understand you15:22
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lotuspsychje!es | programator_31115:23
ubottuprogramator_311: En la mayoría de los canales de Ubuntu, se habla sólo en inglés. Si busca ayuda en español entre al canal #ubuntu-es; escriba " /join #ubuntu-es " (sin comillas) y presione intro.15:23
programator_311i am a simple person, using linux15:23
lotuspsychjeprogramator_311: do you have an ubuntu question?15:23
programator_311no thanks15:23
lotuspsychjeprogramator_311: please be silent then15:23
programator_311ok15:23
pikapikaholy mother of scrollbacks15:23
programator_311i am discovering the hexchat15:24
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programator_311its my first time15:24
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programator_311bye15:24
relipse2Why am I getting this: ~$ logger -s Hello logger: socket /dev/log: No such file or directory15:28
lotuspsychjerelipse2: wich ubuntu version do you have, what are you trying to do?15:29
vrayrohola15:35
vrayrohay alguien15:37
vrayroyo aqui probando esto15:37
ikanoborino hablamos espanol aqui15:37
vrayroi am learning ubuntu15:37
jeremy31!es | vrayro15:37
ubottuvrayro: En la mayoría de los canales de Ubuntu, se habla sólo en inglés. Si busca ayuda en español entre al canal #ubuntu-es; escriba " /join #ubuntu-es " (sin comillas) y presione intro.15:37
ikanoboritienes q escribir ingles :)15:38
beanfroghey, I have to run nomodeset to boot up, and the graphics is stuck too 800 x 600 on install/live mode, the install menu window is larger than the display making me unable to install ubuntu, any ideas?15:38
vrayrothank15:38
lotuspsychjebeanfrog: wich graphics card chipset?15:38
beanfrogintel i7700hq intergrated and nvidia gtx 1050i15:39
lotuspsychjebeanfrog: for gtx cards thats normal to getin with nomodeset, thenw e reccomend a later driver from the ubuntu graphics ppa15:39
lotuspsychje!nvidia | beanfrog15:39
ubottubeanfrog: For nvidia and matrox graphics cards, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VideoDriverHowto . For AMD/ATI graphics cards, see « /msg ubottu ati » and « /msg ubottu fglrxmissing » For the latest Nvidia drivers see https://launchpad.net/~graphics-drivers/+archive/ubuntu/ppa15:39
beanfrogthanks i will try this15:41
lotuspsychjebeanfrog: try a 390 or higher from the ppa15:41
lkshello16:17
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Guest35423hey kings16:46
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OerHekssnap install foobillard-plus17:17
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adhHi. help me please, I have ubuntu and I wanna install a dual boot with windows 10 but in gparted I can't make a new partition..17:32
Gerowenadh: The Ubuntu installer will prompt you to resize your existing Windows partition.17:32
Gerowenadh: It will not simply overwrite Windows without asking.17:32
OerHeksbasicly one installs windows 10 first, then ubuntu17:32
xamithanIf you installed ubuntu first you going to have a bad time17:32
GerowenRandom audio glitches in Firefox from the repos.  Firefox snap is fine.  Restarting Firefox fixes it.  Suggestions?17:32
adhi have only ubuntu, not windows17:33
jeremy31adh, is Windows 10 installed in Legacy rather than EFI?17:33
xmetalgranted it's been years since this happened, ... gparted and resizing stuff like NTFS is iffy17:33
adhOk, so i have to uninstall ubuntu, then install windows and finally reinstall ubuntu17:33
xmetalthough i couldn't speak for the partitioners in the installer, these days17:33
OerHeksand you cannot make free space in a running system, use a live iso for that17:33
jeremy31adh what does terminal say> mokutil --sb-state17:34
xmetalif you are going to do a clean install of Ubuntu, then I'd install windows first (the windows installer usually .. whether a user wants it this way or not) wipes out other partitions ... that's why it's recommended to install Windows first, at times17:35
xamithanactually it's because the bootloader will be messed up if you do windows last17:36
jeremy31Install Windows 10 in UEFI mode, not legacy17:36
xmetalthat could be it, but if you select "use entire disk" on the windows installer, it will wipe out partitions too, IF you are not careful17:37
adhOk, thank you guys, you are the best!!17:39
hubertjjjhi17:42
lotuspsychjewelcome hubertjjj17:42
hubertjjjmy first time on IRC17:42
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radaye folks! I wouldnt consider myself a NEWB -however - I was unaware control+shift+f2 in ubuntu did what it did18:01
alkisgHi, If someone has secure boot enabled, and he compiles some kernel module, he won't be able to modprobe it because it's unsigned?18:01
radso here i am - fullscreen terminal only18:01
lotuspsychjehey alkisg nice to see you18:01
radlol while I can handle cli only - I kind of miss my GUI18:02
raddo I just restart from here? lol18:02
alkisgHi lotuspsychje! :)18:02
jeremy31alkisg: correct, unless they make a machine owners key and use mokutil18:02
alkisgThank you jeremy3118:02
radI was trying to remember the shortcut to get the command promp? I thought it was control alt f2/con shf f2? Ive used it minimally I believe just to do a restart without restarting the box?18:03
lotuspsychje!tty | rad18:03
ubotturad: To get to the TTY terminals 1-6, use the keystroke ctrl + alt + F1-F6 respectively (Alt+F7 will get you back to your graphical login).  To change the resolution for your TTY, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ChangeTTYResolution18:03
radKind of digg fullscreen terminal - if I could split multiple sessions and edit this font18:03
radno shit! awesome ! so I can bounce back..18:03
radNICE! you rock! thank you!18:03
raddude so I get 7 different sessions - well 6 I guess.... 7 being the standard.. thats pretty badass - While fullscreening Terminator/Terminal is ok - this is much more 'terminal' feel loolol thanks again18:05
radlast question - so is this session stored anywhere else? ie) can I retrieve this terminal window from inside my gui? or are they treated as separate sessions?18:06
radis there a terminal based browser? Im trying to test myself and keep from going back to UI now lol - I used googler but it seems to ..well, there must be something better?18:15
radmore functional rather18:15
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lucashello18:17
lotuspsychje!info links2 | rad18:18
ubotturad: links2 (source: links2): Web browser running in both graphics and text mode. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.14-5build1 (bionic), package size 2869 kB, installed size 4739 kB18:18
MJCDAnyone used Git Virtual File System? (GVFS) ?18:18
MJCDi've heard that it's not what I expect18:18
MJCDactually ill ask in -server <318:19
lucashow are you18:21
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lotuspsychje!language | lucas18:21
ubottulucas: Please avoid any language that may be considered offensive, including acronyms and obfuscation of such - also see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/Guidelines || The main channels are English only, for other languages, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/ChannelList18:21
lucasstupid people18:21
lotuspsychjelucas: type /exit18:22
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radlinks2 - i just found lynx too seems? Ima check both out - appreciated!18:23
lotuspsychjewelcome rad18:23
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radalright I SWEAR Im done after this because Im kind of realizing with tizonia for music, irc for entertainment (as long as folks remain active which blows me away folks still are after all these years! lol) ....18:26
radlinks 2 /lynx for browser - I mean I dont really need the GUI to be honest.. so any web developers or programmers in general - anyone use a complete terminal based IDE for coding? or nah that going a bit too far?18:26
radlike course I can nano, vim  - or.. (add your recommendation here)18:27
lotuspsychjerad: keep discussions for #ubuntu-discuss please18:27
radjust cant imagine coding full time in nano or vi lol18:27
radyeah guess im skurrying away there aint i18:27
lotuspsychjehere only ubuntu support18:27
radterminal based IDE? ;>18:27
radsry yall got me this far tho im good ;) on my system its alt-f1 for the UI tho not f718:27
radhardly an isuee tho18:27
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radhow do you scroll up in tty? I have google yes :X18:33
msmarcalrad: shift + page up18:36
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lotuspsychje!ops | lucas flood abuse18:38
ubottulucas flood abuse: Help! Channel emergency! (ONLY use this trigger in emergencies) - Pici, Myrtti, jrib, Amaranth, tonyyarusso, Nalioth, lamont, CarlK, elky, mneptok, Tm_T, jpds, ikonia, Flannel, genii, wgrant, stdin, h00k, IdleOne, Jordan_U, popey, Corey, ocean, cprofitt, djones, Madpilot, gnomefreak, lhavelund, phunyguy, bazhang, chu, dax18:38
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beanfrogso I'm in live mode an updated a graphics driver, is restarting the lightdm service enough to restart the graphics and use new driver without reboot?18:41
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lotuspsychjebeanfrog: wich ubuntu version are you on?18:41
beanfrogstudio 18.0418:41
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lotuspsychjebeanfrog: you mean live mode setup?18:42
beanfrogthe try mode18:42
beanfrogwith the setup tool tag18:42
beanfrogyeah *18:42
lotuspsychjebeanfrog: why would you install nvidia driver in the live?18:43
lotuspsychjebeanfrog: install ubuntu physical and install nvidia driver from there18:43
beanfrogonly have 800x600 with nomodeset, installed an nvidia driver to try get more reso18:43
lotuspsychjebeanfrog: you can enter system nomodeset after an install too18:44
beanfrogcan't install due to low resolution18:45
beanfrogunless there a terminal install option18:45
genpakucan't find UUID=``18:50
Mathisengenpaku, blkid18:51
wondowsso the Image Viewer is failing to render some images, I get a blank screen18:52
tomreynbeanfrog: do you have to boot with nomodeset, though?18:52
wondowsI know the devs are trying but c'mon man... this OS can even render an image in its image viewer18:53
tomreynbeanfrog: xrandr may help you set a different mode (or install arandr)18:53
tomreynbeanfrog: if neither works for you, you can install using the alternative server, then, after booting into it, install ubuntu-desktop.18:54
tomreyn!details | genpaku18:54
ubottugenpaku: Please elaborate; your question or issue may not seem clear or detailed enough for people to help you. Please give more detailed information; for example, we might need errors, steps, relevant configuration files, Ubuntu version, and hardware information. Use a !pastebin to avoid flooding the channel.18:54
beanfrogyeah without nomodeset i get cpu hard locks, can never boot up, xrandr i added custom reso with cvt and it just won't switch to it, failed to get gamma size as xrandr errors if related18:55
Lorrainetomreyn:  Hello!  Thank you so much for your assistance the other night.  I'm back up and running!18:55
tomreynLorraine: good to hear this. you're welcome!18:55
beanfrogtomreyn: that just maybe the way to do it, when installing the desktop will it automatically install graphics drivers? (not preferred)18:56
tomreynwondows: obviously that's not so for mos tusers.18:56
wondowsI really hope not18:58
tomreynbeanfrog: graphics drivers are provided out of the box in all supported hardware configurations. there is not always just a single choice for graphics drivers.18:58
wondows(*cant, btw)18:58
tomreynwondows: if you are trying to get assistence with solving a specific issue, and that's the only thing this channel is for, please describe the issue.18:59
OerHeksuse proper open formats, 'some image' smells fishy18:59
wondowsthis image https://i.imgur.com/KfVQhTt.jpg19:01
tomreyn!details | wondows, see the list of details we'll need19:02
ubottuwondows, see the list of details we'll need: Please elaborate; your question or issue may not seem clear or detailed enough for people to help you. Please give more detailed information; for example, we might need errors, steps, relevant configuration files, Ubuntu version, and hardware information. Use a !pastebin to avoid flooding the channel.19:02
OerHeksthe devs of imgur do pretty good19:06
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tomreynbeanfrog: what's your hardware, which (exact) ubuntu version are you trying to install?19:07
beanfrogit is a problem with any linux os, always get hard/soft locks trying to boot up, went through with a friend trying to debug, and nomodeset seems too allow bootup, they suspected it was the nvidia driver the problem19:14
OerHeksknown issue for nvidia19:15
OerHeks!nomodeset19:15
ubottuA common kernel (boot)parameter is nomodeset, which is needed for some graphic cards that otherwise boot into a black screen or show corrupted splash screen. See http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1613132 on how to use this parameter19:15
beanfrogthat would work if ubuntu was already installed19:16
OerHeksit is also an option during install , with F6 when asked try/install19:17
justme23Is there any example server block for letsencrypt?19:20
tomreynjustme23: what is a "server block"?19:21
infinmed_There are plenty of examples on the website of configurations albeit no block because there is not one required19:23
tomreynbeanfrog: i'd say the issue is not with the linux kernel, but with the drivers provided by the graphics card vendor you chose. but surely that's a matter of perspective, and a topic for #ubuntu-offtopic rather.19:23
tomreyninfinmed_: the "website of configurations"?19:24
infinmed_the cerbot documentation19:24
tomreynso far we don't even know whether that's the LE client justme23 is using.19:25
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infinmed_https://certbot.eff.org/all-instructions19:25
OerHekshttps://www.digitalocean.com/community/tutorials/how-to-set-up-let-s-encrypt-with-nginx-server-blocks-on-ubuntu-16-04 perhaps?19:26
infinmed_they have a program thag foes that for you now19:27
infinmed_that does19:27
infinmed_i mean you can manually add the key to your server block but you can look in nginx docs for those options and find the key in the fullchain in /etc/letsencrypt i presume19:30
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infinmed_not positive wheee ubuntu might place it otherwise19:31
infinmed_and cert that id but i think they are in one pem19:31
infinmed_i can give you my two lines it requires ine moment19:33
infinmed_i will uh put my nginx conf at logiplex.net/nginx.txt in less than 60 seconds you can look if you want19:35
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infinmed_those two ssl key and cert lines jnside the ssl block is all you need19:38
lotuspsychjeinfinmed_: are you monologue to yourself?19:38
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kZohey hey.20:26
kZoAnyone got some good favorites for learning some python?   Specifically I'd like to learn how to write a data crawler using scrapy.   Mostly to scrap data off sports sites to do some quick data stats for a little project.20:32
tomreyn!ot | hi kZo20:35
ubottuhi kZo: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please register with NickServ (see /msg ubottu !register) and use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks!20:35
tomreynthere's also #python20:36
OerHekssome python editions https://fullcirclemagazine.org/special-editions/  https://www.hotscripts.com/category/scripts/python/magazine-articles/20:37
kZothanks OerHeks.  Checking them out.20:40
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lost1985Hello !21:19
lost1985I am French and I come here because it's a little dead on the FR channel.21:19
OerHekshi lost198521:19
lost1985I wanted help, if possible, about a question of data backup, probably simple, but I have a doubt.21:19
hggdhlost1985: just go ahead and ask :-)21:20
lost1985Nice.21:20
lost1985If I copy my "home" folder to a external hard disk, I wouldn't have any problem for reading/copying/modifying these files to and from another Linux, Windows or other?21:20
hggdhlost1985: well... depends on what filesystem you select. For Windows, you are sort of limited (I think) to NTFS or FAT)21:21
kubkdelost1985, If that other drive supports symlinks and you've edited your fstab I cant see any issues21:21
R13oseHow do I get better sound?21:22
lost1985It's just for backup all the data (vidéo, pitures, sounds, others...) but I'm not interested to save my "user profile", it will be like an unsorted big mass data storage device.21:23
jeremy31R13ose: on what?  Bluetooth headphones, computer speakers?21:24
kubkdelost1985, I use a NTFS as storage heavily (VMs, docs, ISOs) and I haven't encountered any issues as of yet. You might run into longer boot times if you have fsck enabled for the additional drive, or do not automount it at boot21:24
R13oseComputer speakers21:24
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kubkdelost1985, This is what I do for my 2nd drive, although I have it mounted at /home/Backup (not a real profile). UUID=4X1YourNTFSUUID /home ntfs noatime,defaults, 0 021:26
kubkdeYou can also use LVM to extend your home to cover both drives21:27
OerHeksR13ose, use a mediapayer that supports an equalizer, like Clementine, build in21:27
R13oseWhat if I am listening to audio in both?21:28
OerHeksin both what?21:29
kubkdeR13ose, are you doing audio production?21:29
R13oseI meant browser21:29
R13oseNo audio production21:29
luis_Hi, i'm trying to perform dual boot in my alienware pc21:29
luis_the issue is that the ubuntu installer doesnt recognize the SSD hard drive only the hard disk21:30
OerHekssome browsers give an equalizer plugin, online21:31
kubkdeR13ose, you can get an affordable USB DAC for your computer. It's a worthwhile investment if you enjoy quality21:31
R13oseDAC?21:33
kubkdeThe issue is software related (Linux keeping it free) unless you have a laptop, from my experience tower mobos are fine, with anything Mac being superior in terms of audio21:33
OerHeksluis_, if you have windows 10 already, you might need some tools for exfat21:33
OerHeksexfat-fuse exfat-utils21:34
kubkdeDigital to analog converter. To summarize it skips any software/hardware faults that your computer may have and outputs through its own hardware21:34
lost1985@kubkde : thanks, I will try, but if I mount it in an other Linux, Debian for example, there is non problem  with user/rights ?21:34
R13oseNice21:35
OerHeksntfs is not posix, so it does not preserve permissions21:35
kubkdeR13ose, Setup for my random DAC was fine, no drivers needed. You could try compiling the Linux kernel with more space allocated towards audio but I haven't tested that out. (The recommended is around 2048(?) and defaults to 64)21:35
kubkdeLet me test...21:36
kubkdevfat doesn't have posix standards, but I haven't received any errors on attributes21:37
luis_OerHes, i have windows, and im using rufus for the bootable21:40
kubkdelost1985, by the way, why not just make a symlink to save yourself the trouble? If it's just media I think that would be easiest21:41
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OerHeksluis_, go in live mode, install those 2 tools, and gparted sees your hdd/partitions21:41
OerHeksand or check if windows is in UEFI mode installed, see the !uefi manual21:42
OerHeks!uefi21:42
ubottuUEFI is a specification that defines a software interface between an operating system and platform firmware. It is meant as a replacement for the BIOS. For information on how to set up and install Ubuntu and its derivatives on UEFI machines please read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UEFI21:42
luis_Is in UEFI21:42
lost1985kubkde symlink ?21:42
luis_Is in UEFI21:42
OerHeksdisable fast boot etc, and boot mate in uefi mode, easy21:43
lost1985kubkde, Forget the name of my "/home" folder, I just want to save media files from a Linux to an external HDD, and I want to be able to read/copy/edit/delete these files on any system, without problem of rights.21:45
kubkdeHm. Sure. I just did a move back and forth with cp and mv, using --preserve=all21:46
kubkdePermissions/attributes were preserved21:46
OerHeksmake that ext hdd ext4, solved21:46
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kubkdelost1985, just make sure you're setting the correct flags when moving via cmdline. I don't know the exacts of moving through GUI, but I'm sure you could chown/chmod a folder recursively to maintain that all its contents retain their settings21:48
lost1985kubkde, wow, but just "copy/paste" to a FAT32 partition is not enough ? Like Windows.21:50
kubkdeIf it does not, then console will definitely tell you. 'ERROR:Unable to retain user set permissions" or something of the sort. Caveat, Windows does not have the xattr capability so it may read perms differently. But it shouldn't change unix side21:50
kubkdelost1985, ? FAT32 is so old that it has very little in the way of utility21:50
kubkdeI don't think you should be too worried about FAT32 for large media storage21:51
luis_OerHeks21:51
lost1985kubkde, Indeed, I have 4K movies, about 70 Go :) , so no.21:52
luis_So go live mode, in console, install extfat-fuse , extfat-utils, name the partition as ext421:52
kubkdewoof21:52
luis_but first disable hibernation in windows21:52
kubkdeVery sweet collection, lost198521:52
luis_i tried to cancel hibernation, but when the pc starts the browser is still open in windows21:53
OerHeksluis_, forget "<OerHeks> make that ext hdd ext4, solved" was adressed to other issue21:53
kubkdeIs the reason you chose NTFS is so Windows can read it? There are other filesystems much better suited for media storage, a few *might* be supported by Windows21:53
lost1985kubkde, I misspoke, I wanted to say "yes, the FAT32 is not suitable, because I have 4K films of about 70 GB EACH" (I didn't mean 70GB of movies).21:55
kubkdeThe 'problem' Windows has is that it can't recovery from data corruption very well at all. BTRFS has been lauded as a strong FS to use as storage but it has its own quirks. You could possibly download drivers that would enable a WIndows compter to understand an EXT4 FS21:55
kubkdeOh aha21:55
lost1985kubkde, Yes, NTFS for this reason, I'm OK for other, but I don't want to CMD or FSTAB, or anyting, just "copy/paste read/write everywhere".21:56
luis_How to guarantee the windows pc is hibernate disabled21:56
kubkdeYeah I think even one movie on FAT32 would be insane.21:56
luis_as i told it seem to bee hibernating in some way21:56
kubkdeThe /etc/fstab symlink mumbo jumbo would make it sooo much easier :p21:56
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tatertotsWindows can't recover?...hmmm wonder why they have always enjoyed > %90 market share in the enterprise with all those fortune 500 corporations running windows servers21:57
tatertotslol21:57
kubkdetatertots, they're connected to the US military, and Windows is their spyware21:57
tatertotsoh i see21:58
kubkdeWindows users are the product. You know they have built in keyloggers, network tracking, cam/audio recording, etc21:58
OerHeksguys, back to support please, keep the flameware, not helpfull, tatertots21:59
tatertotsthanks OerHeks21:59
tatertots:)21:59
kubkdeBut they provide convienence so :shrug: I would love a barebones system that knew how to boot Windows executables, no idea how hard that would be...21:59
Eickmeyerkubkde: This is offtopic.22:00
kubkdeApologies Eickmeyer22:00
Eickmeyer!offtopic22:00
ubottu#ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please register with NickServ (see /msg ubottu !register) and use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks!22:00
kubkdelost1985, you can try this: let me pastebin it and see if it works out for you22:01
lapionI am getting ready to post The.Daily.Show With Trevor Noah for march, but not all are (XL) should I add MIXED in the name ?22:01
kubkdewot22:01
lapionoops sorry wrong channel22:01
yvyzLol22:09
kubkdeAny new Disco News? I'm tempted to wipe my F2FS KDE Neon part since I can't shrink, and keep it as my stable unix.22:15
daddy0i had probs with the beta, but the latest disco-dailies have been good for me22:16
tomreyn!ubuntu+122:18
ubottuDisco Dingo is the codename for Ubuntu 19.04 - Support only in #ubuntu+122:18
tomreyn!discuss22:19
ubottuWant to talk about Ubuntu, but don't have a support question? /join #ubuntu-discuss for non-support Ubuntu discussion, or try #ubuntu-offtopic for general chat. Thanks!22:19
Apachezanyone in here who happens to run ubuntu 18.10 or newer with a amd ryzen 2400GE? How well does that work out of the box without propertiary drivers?22:46
tomreynApachez: give it a try, doesn't take long. just download the live / installer ISO and boot off it.22:55
AlexMaxDoes Ubuntu 18.10 and 19.04 give me anything significant over 18.04 LTS?22:55
jeremy31AlexMax: likely not22:56
kubkdeAlexMax, not really. This one's pretty boring22:56
tomreynApachez: i think for ubuntu 18.04 i'd recommend the padoka ppa, yet. i don't expect it to work well out of the box on 18.04.2. but i can be wrong.22:57
Apachezbecause I like the passive approach which can be done with akasa + intel nuc22:57
tomreynpassively cooled gpu, you mean?22:58
AlexMaxI guess I have like two problems with Ubuntu as it stands.  One is that when I don't use my mousewheel for a while, I'll use it and I'll go crazy and scroll 20 times in a row to the bottom for some reason.22:59
AlexMaxAnd the other is that full screen zoom support just...doesn't work for me.  It just looks completely glitched out.22:59
AlexMaxI was hoping newer versions might have a fix for one or the other.22:59
jeremy31AlexMax: try a new mouse22:59
AlexMaxIt works fine on windows and on mac.23:00
AlexMaxSo it's not a hardware problem as far as i can tell23:00
jeremy31ok then23:00
jeremy31My mouse needs replaced, right click doesn't always work23:00
Sushi-san!ot AlexMax23:02
tomreynApachez: https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=ryzen-2400g-may (may 2018) states that 2400G (not GE!) works fine on mesa 18.2 (ubuntu 18.10 has 18.2.2-0ubuntu1) and linux 4.17 (ubuntu 18.10 provides 4.18). https://www.gamingonlinux.com/forum/topic/3406 is someone reporting 2400GE (!) working with kernel 4.17.3 + Mesa 17.3.923:07
tomreynbased on which you should actually be able to use it on 18.04.2 with !hwe23:08
Apacheztnx23:09

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