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defender99zu3Hello! I have a question about remoting from a kubuntu box into a xubuntu box without a monitor, trying to get into a session using a desktop enviroment without a monitor.02:47
valorieI guess ssh would be the best idea02:54
Eickmeyer!vnc defender99zu302:55
Eickmeyer!vnc | defender99zu302:55
ubottudefender99zu3: VNC is a protocol for remote desktop. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VNCOverSSH describes how to use it securely.  It works best over fast connections, otherwise look at !FreeNX02:55
defender99zu3valorie: I have a SSF computer just laying around and I would like to use it as a torrent box and possibly a fileserver. I always thought i would be able to log into the system using VNC. But the trick is I dont want to have a monitor hooked up to it. But I still want to use a desktop enviroment. Is that even possible?02:55
valoriehave you ever ssh'd into a server somewhere?02:56
valorieif you ssh into that other computer, it will be just like that02:56
valorieyes, you can do VNC instead02:57
defender99zu3So it is possible to run xfce without a monitor?02:57
valoriewell, little point to that unless you will VLC02:57
defender99zu3Great, so how do I log into my computer after i start it up?02:57
valorieinstall an SSH client02:58
ubottuSSH is the Secure SHell protocol, see: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SSH for client usage. PuTTY is an SSH client for Windows; see: http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~sgtatham/putty/ for its homepage. See also !scp (Secure CoPy) and !sshd (Secure SHell Daemon)02:58
ubottuVNC is a protocol for remote desktop. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VNCOverSSH describes how to use it securely.  It works best over fast connections, otherwise look at !FreeNX02:58
valorieseems like those are your choices02:58
defender99zu3I've used both VNC and SSH before. But I'm missing a bit of information on how to get either to run before I log in. Is it possible to log in through a terminal SSH interface and fire up xfce?02:59
valoriethat I don't know03:00
valorieI've never tried to do what you're trying03:00
defender99zu3That's also what I do not know. I know I can use VNC/Teamviewer to run a remote desktop AFTER i have logged in. I know I can set up SSh to give me text interface to actually log in. But I need to log in to XFCE remotely without a monitor.03:01
EickmeyerIt's possible. I used to have a box that had an LXDE session running headlesss, but I completely forgot how to do it. That was over 6 years ago.03:02
Eickmeyerdefender99zu3: You might just have to resort to google on this one.03:03
defender99zu3Eickmeyer: Any resources you can point me to, I've exhausted my google keywords. I didn't realize it was unique to want to log into a desktop enviroment without a monitor.03:03
Eickmeyerdefender99zu3: Like I said, it was 6 years ago, and I have completely forgotten. It's possible someone in #ubuntu might know, but no guarantees.03:05
EickmeyerThe key was VNC as I recall.03:06
EickmeyerBasically, VNC can run an Xorg environment headless.03:06
defender99zu3Eickmeyer: thanks.03:06
valorie#ubuntu is a much larger channel, yes03:07
defender99zu3Well I tried Xubuntu first as that's what I'm trying to log into. But I'm using Kubuntu to log into it ... so this was my second try.03:09
Eickmeyerdefender99zu3: They're all Ubuntu.03:09
defender99zu3valorie: thanks.03:09
defender99zu3Eickmeyer: yes, I know but usually people like me to stick to my own derivative.03:10
Eickmeyerdefender99zu3: Xubuntu and Kubuntu aren't derivitives, they're official flavors.03:10
ubottuRecognized Ubuntu flavors build on Ubuntu and provide a different user experience out of the box. They are supported both in #ubuntu and in their flavor channel. For a list, see https://www.ubuntu.com/download/ubuntu-flavours03:10
Eickmeyerdefender99zu3: Linux Mint is a derivitive.03:10
IrcsomeBot2<katnipp> mint has their own channels on their own network with their own support.03:30
krytarikEickmeyer: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DerivativeTeam/Derivatives - I think the official flavors can be likewise called 'derivatives' though.03:39
Eickmeyerkrytarik: It's all in the vernacular.03:39
krytarik..In a what? :P03:39
EickmeyerThat page is also pretty outdated.03:39
krytarikYeah, that has been noticed recently already.03:40
defender99zu3I honestly didn't know the difference. Clearly there is one though.03:41
IrcsomeBot2<Eickmeyer> @katnipp, Precisely.03:41
Eickmeyerdefender99zu3: Derivitives, like Linux Mint, use thier own repositories. Official flavors use only the Ubuntu repositories, nothing more.03:41
valoriethere is a big difference between those projects IN ubuntu, and those outside03:42
valorieand it's a choice that projects make03:42
EickmeyerSo, krytarik, that's the vernacular I was mentioning. Flavor = IN ubuntu, Derivitive = outside.03:43
valoriethat is not to say that we're against Mint, for instance03:43
valorieMint is great03:43
valoriebut they are not part of Ubuntu03:43
Eickmeyervalorie: I agree! I used to use it.03:43
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lordievaderGood morning06:25
IrcsomeBot2<Chandra Sekhar> May I know which best video editor for kubuntu ?06:46
JussiThere is usually no "best" - depends what you are doing. However, Kdenlive is widely considered a decent editor06:49
BluesKajHowdy folks09:35
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Sheratanhola que cliente de DC++ me recomendáis para kubuntu?10:33
Sheratany algún hub interesante?10:33
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IrcsomeBot2anjahaipel was added by: anjahaipel14:59
tmrolandso i have a bunch of completely unrelated and useless apps instaled by the xubuntu-desktop task with aptitude16:17
tmrolandno matter what i did, aptitude purge xfce-desktop and use muon to delete lefotvers and use apt autoremove16:17
tmrolandthose annoying gtk apps are still ther eand they ruin the plasma desktop experience16:17
tmrolandhow do i get rid of this infestation16:17
tmrolandfor example it installed gnome software center and libreoffice (a few parts) and uxterm16:18
tmrolandwhy doesnt apt have a way to delete absolutely everything without letting the user do cleanup each and every time to get back his system to the previous state?16:18
tmrolandhow do i delete EVERYTHING to the last bit that "aptitude purge xfce-desktop" installed ?16:22
tmrolandim leftover with ugly surprises all over16:22
tmrolandaptitude install sorry16:22
BluesKajusually uninstalling the desktop results in a semi-clean result, a few annoying networking leftovers perhaps16:27
tmrolandlibreoffice,uxterm,gnome software, gtk apps16:33
tmrolandthings that are completley not needed but installed and then left there16:33
tmrolandany way of removing those Recommends packages or just need to go remove each ?16:33
BluesKajtmroland, seems you're getting answers in #ubuntu, be satisfied with that since you're crossposting16:45
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carbonzerohey folks. I'm trying to use a small HD tv with an HDMI input for a second monitor with my laptop. I want to have the laptop screen as the primary and the tv/monitor to be the second monitor. It worked yesterday but now it's displaying what's on my laptop screen. I just want it to be second desktop.17:41
carbonzerooh, wait, maybe I just answered myself. I wonder if I need a second desktop setup. hold on.17:41
Guest44752i have a heavy problem with kubuntu 18.1017:46
Guest44752kubuntu is eating my disk space and need a reboot every day17:47
Guest44752~100gb logs17:48
Guest44752plasma is crashing every night after going to bed17:48
Guest44752after reboot the disk space clean up17:48
Guest44752i'm a beginner with linux and i really prefer kde compared to gnome - but i never used a such an unstable os17:49
BluesKajGuest44752, turn off unneeded daemons and file search in system-settings>workspace>startup&shutdown>background services and workspace search18:06
eeoshi everybody18:08
Guest44752ok thanks i will try18:09
eeosHi everybody! kubuntu 18.04.2 64 bit.18:11
eeosIf I set the system proxy, firefox does not detect it. Google Chrome does.18:12
eeosAlso, skype does not work.18:12
eeosDone a lot of googling, tried all solutions I found, none worked. Any solution?18:12
Guest44752firefox have a proxy option - use system proxy settings18:13
Guest44752about:preferences#general scroll to the end18:14
eeosMmmm .... I really need o have the proxy settimsg for every application, like on a normal system. I cannot go and set every application.18:14
eeos(git, svn, konversation, skype, ....)18:14
Guest44752u use a socks?18:14
Guest44752vpn should tunnel all of your traffic18:15
eeosGuest44752: what is a sock?18:15
eeosGuest44752: what appliction should I use to manage that?18:17
Guest44752which protocol are you using to tunnel your traffic?18:17
eeosbut should it not be easy to set a system proxy also for firefox and all applications?!18:18
Guest44752normally all your traffic should go through it18:19
eeosSo why does it not work? I have seen so many messages on google .... I am not the only one with the problem!18:19
Guest44752check your ff settings and look if it works with ff if you change to "use system proxy settings"18:23
eeosGuest44752: already done, and it does not18:24
Guest44752and you are really sure chrome does?18:24
eeosGuest44752: oh yes! I had to define chrome as default browser because everything works through Chrome.18:25
Guest44752ok that sounds like your network/vpn manager filters the applications who connect through vpn18:26
Guest44752you use openvpn?18:26
Guest44752i'm also a beginner with linux but i had no issues like that after installing open vpn, configure it and connect18:27
Guest44752even kodi run through it and netflix stop18:28
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tmrolandhi, how do i remove software & updates app?22:15
tmrolandthe gtk one22:15
tmrolandit got installed by some other package22:15
geniitmroland: sudo apt-get purge update-manager && sudo apt-get install --reinstall update-manager-kde22:20
genii..to make sure the first one doesn't wipe dependencies out the kde specific one also needs22:20
Eickmeyergenii: I'm pretty sure tmroland means software-properties. There is no update-manager-kde.22:22
genii!info update-manager-kde22:22
ubottuPackage update-manager-kde does not exist in bionic22:22
geniiHm, not in bionic. But my xenial definitely has it22:23
genii!info update-manager-kde xenial22:23
ubottuupdate-manager-kde (source: update-manager): Support modules for Muon Notifier and Apper. In component universe, is optional. Version 1:16.04.15 (xenial), package size 2 kB, installed size 84 kB22:23
tmrolandwhy is there this glitch in kubuntu that i have 2 pulseaudio volume control in multimedia?22:27
tmrolandsame stuff22:27
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IrcsomeBot2<carbonzero> (Photo, 960x1280) https://irc-attachments.kde.org/QnBsy7ca/file_14428.jpg23:20
IrcsomeBot2<carbonzero> Can anybody tell me if this error's been fixed?23:20
IrcsomeBot2<carbonzero> Maybe I'll try a new beta install again to see.23:21
valorie@carbonzero what command did you actually run, and from where?23:51
valoriethe error message looks like a mixup somewhere23:52

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