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| defender99zu3 | Hello! I have a question about remoting from a kubuntu box into a xubuntu box without a monitor, trying to get into a session using a desktop enviroment without a monitor. | 02:47 |
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| valorie | !headless | 02:53 |
| valorie | pfff | 02:53 |
| valorie | I guess ssh would be the best idea | 02:54 |
| Eickmeyer | !vnc defender99zu3 | 02:55 |
| Eickmeyer | !vnc | defender99zu3 | 02:55 |
| ubottu | defender99zu3: VNC is a protocol for remote desktop. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VNCOverSSH describes how to use it securely. It works best over fast connections, otherwise look at !FreeNX | 02:55 |
| defender99zu3 | valorie: I have a SSF computer just laying around and I would like to use it as a torrent box and possibly a fileserver. I always thought i would be able to log into the system using VNC. But the trick is I dont want to have a monitor hooked up to it. But I still want to use a desktop enviroment. Is that even possible? | 02:55 |
| valorie | have you ever ssh'd into a server somewhere? | 02:56 |
| valorie | if you ssh into that other computer, it will be just like that | 02:56 |
| valorie | yes, you can do VNC instead | 02:57 |
| defender99zu3 | So it is possible to run xfce without a monitor? | 02:57 |
| valorie | well, little point to that unless you will VLC | 02:57 |
| defender99zu3 | Great, so how do I log into my computer after i start it up? | 02:57 |
| valorie | install an SSH client | 02:58 |
| valorie | !ssh | 02:58 |
| ubottu | SSH is the Secure SHell protocol, see: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SSH for client usage. PuTTY is an SSH client for Windows; see: http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~sgtatham/putty/ for its homepage. See also !scp (Secure CoPy) and !sshd (Secure SHell Daemon) | 02:58 |
| valorie | !vnc | 02:58 |
| ubottu | VNC is a protocol for remote desktop. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VNCOverSSH describes how to use it securely. It works best over fast connections, otherwise look at !FreeNX | 02:58 |
| valorie | seems like those are your choices | 02:58 |
| defender99zu3 | I've used both VNC and SSH before. But I'm missing a bit of information on how to get either to run before I log in. Is it possible to log in through a terminal SSH interface and fire up xfce? | 02:59 |
| valorie | that I don't know | 03:00 |
| valorie | I've never tried to do what you're trying | 03:00 |
| defender99zu3 | That's also what I do not know. I know I can use VNC/Teamviewer to run a remote desktop AFTER i have logged in. I know I can set up SSh to give me text interface to actually log in. But I need to log in to XFCE remotely without a monitor. | 03:01 |
| Eickmeyer | It's possible. I used to have a box that had an LXDE session running headlesss, but I completely forgot how to do it. That was over 6 years ago. | 03:02 |
| Eickmeyer | defender99zu3: You might just have to resort to google on this one. | 03:03 |
| defender99zu3 | Eickmeyer: Any resources you can point me to, I've exhausted my google keywords. I didn't realize it was unique to want to log into a desktop enviroment without a monitor. | 03:03 |
| Eickmeyer | defender99zu3: Like I said, it was 6 years ago, and I have completely forgotten. It's possible someone in #ubuntu might know, but no guarantees. | 03:05 |
| Eickmeyer | The key was VNC as I recall. | 03:06 |
| Eickmeyer | Basically, VNC can run an Xorg environment headless. | 03:06 |
| defender99zu3 | Eickmeyer: thanks. | 03:06 |
| valorie | #ubuntu is a much larger channel, yes | 03:07 |
| defender99zu3 | Well I tried Xubuntu first as that's what I'm trying to log into. But I'm using Kubuntu to log into it ... so this was my second try. | 03:09 |
| Eickmeyer | defender99zu3: They're all Ubuntu. | 03:09 |
| defender99zu3 | valorie: thanks. | 03:09 |
| defender99zu3 | Eickmeyer: yes, I know but usually people like me to stick to my own derivative. | 03:10 |
| Eickmeyer | defender99zu3: Xubuntu and Kubuntu aren't derivitives, they're official flavors. | 03:10 |
| Eickmeyer | !flavors | 03:10 |
| ubottu | Recognized Ubuntu flavors build on Ubuntu and provide a different user experience out of the box. They are supported both in #ubuntu and in their flavor channel. For a list, see https://www.ubuntu.com/download/ubuntu-flavours | 03:10 |
| Eickmeyer | defender99zu3: Linux Mint is a derivitive. | 03:10 |
| IrcsomeBot2 | <katnipp> mint has their own channels on their own network with their own support. | 03:30 |
| krytarik | Eickmeyer: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DerivativeTeam/Derivatives - I think the official flavors can be likewise called 'derivatives' though. | 03:39 |
| Eickmeyer | krytarik: It's all in the vernacular. | 03:39 |
| krytarik | ..In a what? :P | 03:39 |
| Eickmeyer | That page is also pretty outdated. | 03:39 |
| krytarik | Yeah, that has been noticed recently already. | 03:40 |
| defender99zu3 | I honestly didn't know the difference. Clearly there is one though. | 03:41 |
| IrcsomeBot2 | <Eickmeyer> @katnipp, Precisely. | 03:41 |
| Eickmeyer | defender99zu3: Derivitives, like Linux Mint, use thier own repositories. Official flavors use only the Ubuntu repositories, nothing more. | 03:41 |
| valorie | there is a big difference between those projects IN ubuntu, and those outside | 03:42 |
| valorie | and it's a choice that projects make | 03:42 |
| Eickmeyer | So, krytarik, that's the vernacular I was mentioning. Flavor = IN ubuntu, Derivitive = outside. | 03:43 |
| valorie | that is not to say that we're against Mint, for instance | 03:43 |
| valorie | Mint is great | 03:43 |
| valorie | but they are not part of Ubuntu | 03:43 |
| Eickmeyer | valorie: I agree! I used to use it. | 03:43 |
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| lordievader | Good morning | 06:25 |
| IrcsomeBot2 | <Chandra Sekhar> May I know which best video editor for kubuntu ? | 06:46 |
| Jussi | !best | 06:47 |
| Jussi | There is usually no "best" - depends what you are doing. However, Kdenlive is widely considered a decent editor | 06:49 |
| BluesKaj | Howdy folks | 09:35 |
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| Sheratan | hola que cliente de DC++ me recomendáis para kubuntu? | 10:33 |
| Sheratan | y algún hub interesante? | 10:33 |
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| IrcsomeBot2 | anjahaipel was added by: anjahaipel | 14:59 |
| tmroland | so i have a bunch of completely unrelated and useless apps instaled by the xubuntu-desktop task with aptitude | 16:17 |
| tmroland | no matter what i did, aptitude purge xfce-desktop and use muon to delete lefotvers and use apt autoremove | 16:17 |
| tmroland | those annoying gtk apps are still ther eand they ruin the plasma desktop experience | 16:17 |
| tmroland | how do i get rid of this infestation | 16:17 |
| tmroland | for example it installed gnome software center and libreoffice (a few parts) and uxterm | 16:18 |
| tmroland | why doesnt apt have a way to delete absolutely everything without letting the user do cleanup each and every time to get back his system to the previous state? | 16:18 |
| tmroland | how do i delete EVERYTHING to the last bit that "aptitude purge xfce-desktop" installed ? | 16:22 |
| tmroland | im leftover with ugly surprises all over | 16:22 |
| tmroland | aptitude install sorry | 16:22 |
| BluesKaj | usually uninstalling the desktop results in a semi-clean result, a few annoying networking leftovers perhaps | 16:27 |
| tmroland | libreoffice,uxterm,gnome software, gtk apps | 16:33 |
| tmroland | things that are completley not needed but installed and then left there | 16:33 |
| tmroland | any way of removing those Recommends packages or just need to go remove each ? | 16:33 |
| BluesKaj | tmroland, seems you're getting answers in #ubuntu, be satisfied with that since you're crossposting | 16:45 |
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| carbonzero | hey folks. I'm trying to use a small HD tv with an HDMI input for a second monitor with my laptop. I want to have the laptop screen as the primary and the tv/monitor to be the second monitor. It worked yesterday but now it's displaying what's on my laptop screen. I just want it to be second desktop. | 17:41 |
| carbonzero | oh, wait, maybe I just answered myself. I wonder if I need a second desktop setup. hold on. | 17:41 |
| Guest44752 | hi | 17:46 |
| Guest44752 | i have a heavy problem with kubuntu 18.10 | 17:46 |
| Guest44752 | kubuntu is eating my disk space and need a reboot every day | 17:47 |
| Guest44752 | ~100gb logs | 17:48 |
| Guest44752 | plasma is crashing every night after going to bed | 17:48 |
| Guest44752 | after reboot the disk space clean up | 17:48 |
| Guest44752 | i'm a beginner with linux and i really prefer kde compared to gnome - but i never used a such an unstable os | 17:49 |
| BluesKaj | Guest44752, turn off unneeded daemons and file search in system-settings>workspace>startup&shutdown>background services and workspace search | 18:06 |
| eeos | hi everybody | 18:08 |
| Guest44752 | ok thanks i will try | 18:09 |
| eeos | Hi everybody! kubuntu 18.04.2 64 bit. | 18:11 |
| eeos | If I set the system proxy, firefox does not detect it. Google Chrome does. | 18:12 |
| eeos | Also, skype does not work. | 18:12 |
| eeos | Done a lot of googling, tried all solutions I found, none worked. Any solution? | 18:12 |
| Guest44752 | firefox have a proxy option - use system proxy settings | 18:13 |
| Guest44752 | about:preferences#general scroll to the end | 18:14 |
| eeos | Mmmm .... I really need o have the proxy settimsg for every application, like on a normal system. I cannot go and set every application. | 18:14 |
| eeos | (git, svn, konversation, skype, ....) | 18:14 |
| Guest44752 | u use a socks? | 18:14 |
| Guest44752 | vpn should tunnel all of your traffic | 18:15 |
| eeos | Guest44752: what is a sock? | 18:15 |
| Guest44752 | socks4/5* | 18:15 |
| eeos | Guest44752: what appliction should I use to manage that? | 18:17 |
| Guest44752 | which protocol are you using to tunnel your traffic? | 18:17 |
| eeos | VPN | 18:18 |
| Guest44752 | mhm | 18:18 |
| eeos | but should it not be easy to set a system proxy also for firefox and all applications?! | 18:18 |
| Guest44752 | yes | 18:18 |
| Guest44752 | normally all your traffic should go through it | 18:19 |
| eeos | So why does it not work? I have seen so many messages on google .... I am not the only one with the problem! | 18:19 |
| Guest44752 | hmm | 18:20 |
| Guest44752 | check your ff settings and look if it works with ff if you change to "use system proxy settings" | 18:23 |
| eeos | Guest44752: already done, and it does not | 18:24 |
| Guest44752 | and you are really sure chrome does? | 18:24 |
| eeos | Guest44752: oh yes! I had to define chrome as default browser because everything works through Chrome. | 18:25 |
| Guest44752 | ok that sounds like your network/vpn manager filters the applications who connect through vpn | 18:26 |
| Guest44752 | you use openvpn? | 18:26 |
| Guest44752 | i'm also a beginner with linux but i had no issues like that after installing open vpn, configure it and connect | 18:27 |
| Guest44752 | even kodi run through it and netflix stop | 18:28 |
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| IrcsomeBot2 | Leo Johnson was added by: Leo Johnson | 21:39 |
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| tmroland | hi, how do i remove software & updates app? | 22:15 |
| tmroland | the gtk one | 22:15 |
| tmroland | it got installed by some other package | 22:15 |
| genii | tmroland: sudo apt-get purge update-manager && sudo apt-get install --reinstall update-manager-kde | 22:20 |
| genii | ..to make sure the first one doesn't wipe dependencies out the kde specific one also needs | 22:20 |
| Eickmeyer | genii: I'm pretty sure tmroland means software-properties. There is no update-manager-kde. | 22:22 |
| genii | !info update-manager-kde | 22:22 |
| ubottu | Package update-manager-kde does not exist in bionic | 22:22 |
| genii | Hm, not in bionic. But my xenial definitely has it | 22:23 |
| genii | !info update-manager-kde xenial | 22:23 |
| ubottu | update-manager-kde (source: update-manager): Support modules for Muon Notifier and Apper. In component universe, is optional. Version 1:16.04.15 (xenial), package size 2 kB, installed size 84 kB | 22:23 |
| tmroland | ty | 22:24 |
| tmroland | why is there this glitch in kubuntu that i have 2 pulseaudio volume control in multimedia? | 22:27 |
| tmroland | same stuff | 22:27 |
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| IrcsomeBot2 | <carbonzero> (Photo, 960x1280) https://irc-attachments.kde.org/QnBsy7ca/file_14428.jpg | 23:20 |
| IrcsomeBot2 | <carbonzero> Can anybody tell me if this error's been fixed? | 23:20 |
| IrcsomeBot2 | <carbonzero> Maybe I'll try a new beta install again to see. | 23:21 |
| valorie | @carbonzero what command did you actually run, and from where? | 23:51 |
| valorie | the error message looks like a mixup somewhere | 23:52 |
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