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[02:47] <defender99zu3> Hello! I have a question about remoting from a kubuntu box into a xubuntu box without a monitor, trying to get into a session using a desktop enviroment without a monitor.
[02:53] <valorie> !headless
[02:53] <valorie> pfff
[02:54] <valorie> I guess ssh would be the best idea
[02:55] <Eickmeyer> !vnc defender99zu3
[02:55] <Eickmeyer> !vnc | defender99zu3
[02:55] <ubottu> defender99zu3: VNC is a protocol for remote desktop. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VNCOverSSH describes how to use it securely.  It works best over fast connections, otherwise look at !FreeNX
[02:55] <defender99zu3> valorie: I have a SSF computer just laying around and I would like to use it as a torrent box and possibly a fileserver. I always thought i would be able to log into the system using VNC. But the trick is I dont want to have a monitor hooked up to it. But I still want to use a desktop enviroment. Is that even possible?
[02:56] <valorie> have you ever ssh'd into a server somewhere?
[02:56] <valorie> if you ssh into that other computer, it will be just like that
[02:57] <valorie> yes, you can do VNC instead
[02:57] <defender99zu3> So it is possible to run xfce without a monitor?
[02:57] <valorie> well, little point to that unless you will VLC
[02:57] <defender99zu3> Great, so how do I log into my computer after i start it up?
[02:58] <valorie> install an SSH client
[02:58] <valorie> !ssh
[02:58] <ubottu> SSH is the Secure SHell protocol, see: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SSH for client usage. PuTTY is an SSH client for Windows; see: http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~sgtatham/putty/ for its homepage. See also !scp (Secure CoPy) and !sshd (Secure SHell Daemon)
[02:58] <valorie> !vnc
[02:58] <ubottu> VNC is a protocol for remote desktop. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VNCOverSSH describes how to use it securely.  It works best over fast connections, otherwise look at !FreeNX
[02:58] <valorie> seems like those are your choices
[02:59] <defender99zu3> I've used both VNC and SSH before. But I'm missing a bit of information on how to get either to run before I log in. Is it possible to log in through a terminal SSH interface and fire up xfce?
[03:00] <valorie> that I don't know
[03:00] <valorie> I've never tried to do what you're trying
[03:01] <defender99zu3> That's also what I do not know. I know I can use VNC/Teamviewer to run a remote desktop AFTER i have logged in. I know I can set up SSh to give me text interface to actually log in. But I need to log in to XFCE remotely without a monitor.
[03:02] <Eickmeyer> It's possible. I used to have a box that had an LXDE session running headlesss, but I completely forgot how to do it. That was over 6 years ago.
[03:03] <Eickmeyer> defender99zu3: You might just have to resort to google on this one.
[03:03] <defender99zu3> Eickmeyer: Any resources you can point me to, I've exhausted my google keywords. I didn't realize it was unique to want to log into a desktop enviroment without a monitor.
[03:05] <Eickmeyer> defender99zu3: Like I said, it was 6 years ago, and I have completely forgotten. It's possible someone in #ubuntu might know, but no guarantees.
[03:06] <Eickmeyer> The key was VNC as I recall.
[03:06] <Eickmeyer> Basically, VNC can run an Xorg environment headless.
[03:06] <defender99zu3> Eickmeyer: thanks.
[03:07] <valorie> #ubuntu is a much larger channel, yes
[03:09] <defender99zu3> Well I tried Xubuntu first as that's what I'm trying to log into. But I'm using Kubuntu to log into it ... so this was my second try.
[03:09] <Eickmeyer> defender99zu3: They're all Ubuntu.
[03:09] <defender99zu3> valorie: thanks.
[03:10] <defender99zu3> Eickmeyer: yes, I know but usually people like me to stick to my own derivative.
[03:10] <Eickmeyer> defender99zu3: Xubuntu and Kubuntu aren't derivitives, they're official flavors.
[03:10] <Eickmeyer> !flavors
[03:10] <ubottu> Recognized Ubuntu flavors build on Ubuntu and provide a different user experience out of the box. They are supported both in #ubuntu and in their flavor channel. For a list, see https://www.ubuntu.com/download/ubuntu-flavours
[03:10] <Eickmeyer> defender99zu3: Linux Mint is a derivitive.
[03:30] <IrcsomeBot2> <katnipp> mint has their own channels on their own network with their own support.
[03:39] <krytarik> Eickmeyer: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DerivativeTeam/Derivatives - I think the official flavors can be likewise called 'derivatives' though.
[03:39] <Eickmeyer> krytarik: It's all in the vernacular.
[03:39] <krytarik> ..In a what? :P
[03:39] <Eickmeyer> That page is also pretty outdated.
[03:40] <krytarik> Yeah, that has been noticed recently already.
[03:41] <defender99zu3> I honestly didn't know the difference. Clearly there is one though.
[03:41] <IrcsomeBot2> <Eickmeyer> @katnipp, Precisely.
[03:41] <Eickmeyer> defender99zu3: Derivitives, like Linux Mint, use thier own repositories. Official flavors use only the Ubuntu repositories, nothing more.
[03:42] <valorie> there is a big difference between those projects IN ubuntu, and those outside
[03:42] <valorie> and it's a choice that projects make
[03:43] <Eickmeyer> So, krytarik, that's the vernacular I was mentioning. Flavor = IN ubuntu, Derivitive = outside.
[03:43] <valorie> that is not to say that we're against Mint, for instance
[03:43] <valorie> Mint is great
[03:43] <valorie> but they are not part of Ubuntu
[03:43] <Eickmeyer> valorie: I agree! I used to use it.
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[06:25] <lordievader> Good morning
[06:46] <IrcsomeBot2> <Chandra Sekhar> May I know which best video editor for kubuntu ?
[06:47] <Jussi> !best
[06:49] <Jussi> There is usually no "best" - depends what you are doing. However, Kdenlive is widely considered a decent editor
[09:35] <BluesKaj> Howdy folks
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[10:33] <Sheratan> hola que cliente de DC++ me recomendáis para kubuntu?
[10:33] <Sheratan> y algún hub interesante?
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[16:17] <tmroland> so i have a bunch of completely unrelated and useless apps instaled by the xubuntu-desktop task with aptitude
[16:17] <tmroland> no matter what i did, aptitude purge xfce-desktop and use muon to delete lefotvers and use apt autoremove
[16:17] <tmroland> those annoying gtk apps are still ther eand they ruin the plasma desktop experience
[16:17] <tmroland> how do i get rid of this infestation
[16:18] <tmroland> for example it installed gnome software center and libreoffice (a few parts) and uxterm
[16:18] <tmroland> why doesnt apt have a way to delete absolutely everything without letting the user do cleanup each and every time to get back his system to the previous state?
[16:22] <tmroland> how do i delete EVERYTHING to the last bit that "aptitude purge xfce-desktop" installed ?
[16:22] <tmroland> im leftover with ugly surprises all over
[16:22] <tmroland> aptitude install sorry
[16:27] <BluesKaj> usually uninstalling the desktop results in a semi-clean result, a few annoying networking leftovers perhaps
[16:33] <tmroland> libreoffice,uxterm,gnome software, gtk apps
[16:33] <tmroland> things that are completley not needed but installed and then left there
[16:33] <tmroland> any way of removing those Recommends packages or just need to go remove each ?
[16:45] <BluesKaj> tmroland, seems you're getting answers in #ubuntu, be satisfied with that since you're crossposting
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[17:41] <carbonzero> hey folks. I'm trying to use a small HD tv with an HDMI input for a second monitor with my laptop. I want to have the laptop screen as the primary and the tv/monitor to be the second monitor. It worked yesterday but now it's displaying what's on my laptop screen. I just want it to be second desktop.
[17:41] <carbonzero> oh, wait, maybe I just answered myself. I wonder if I need a second desktop setup. hold on.
[17:46] <Guest44752> hi
[17:46] <Guest44752> i have a heavy problem with kubuntu 18.10
[17:47] <Guest44752> kubuntu is eating my disk space and need a reboot every day
[17:48] <Guest44752> ~100gb logs
[17:48] <Guest44752> plasma is crashing every night after going to bed
[17:48] <Guest44752> after reboot the disk space clean up
[17:49] <Guest44752> i'm a beginner with linux and i really prefer kde compared to gnome - but i never used a such an unstable os
[18:06] <BluesKaj> Guest44752, turn off unneeded daemons and file search in system-settings>workspace>startup&shutdown>background services and workspace search
[18:08] <eeos> hi everybody
[18:09] <Guest44752> ok thanks i will try
[18:11] <eeos> Hi everybody! kubuntu 18.04.2 64 bit.
[18:12] <eeos> If I set the system proxy, firefox does not detect it. Google Chrome does.
[18:12] <eeos> Also, skype does not work.
[18:12] <eeos> Done a lot of googling, tried all solutions I found, none worked. Any solution?
[18:13] <Guest44752> firefox have a proxy option - use system proxy settings
[18:14] <Guest44752> about:preferences#general scroll to the end
[18:14] <eeos> Mmmm .... I really need o have the proxy settimsg for every application, like on a normal system. I cannot go and set every application.
[18:14] <eeos> (git, svn, konversation, skype, ....)
[18:14] <Guest44752> u use a socks?
[18:15] <Guest44752> vpn should tunnel all of your traffic
[18:15] <eeos> Guest44752: what is a sock?
[18:15] <Guest44752> socks4/5*
[18:17] <eeos> Guest44752: what appliction should I use to manage that?
[18:17] <Guest44752> which protocol are you using to tunnel your traffic?
[18:18] <eeos> VPN
[18:18] <Guest44752> mhm
[18:18] <eeos> but should it not be easy to set a system proxy also for firefox and all applications?!
[18:18] <Guest44752> yes
[18:19] <Guest44752> normally all your traffic should go through it
[18:19] <eeos> So why does it not work? I have seen so many messages on google .... I am not the only one with the problem!
[18:20] <Guest44752> hmm
[18:23] <Guest44752> check your ff settings and look if it works with ff if you change to "use system proxy settings"
[18:24] <eeos> Guest44752: already done, and it does not
[18:24] <Guest44752> and you are really sure chrome does?
[18:25] <eeos> Guest44752: oh yes! I had to define chrome as default browser because everything works through Chrome.
[18:26] <Guest44752> ok that sounds like your network/vpn manager filters the applications who connect through vpn
[18:26] <Guest44752> you use openvpn?
[18:27] <Guest44752> i'm also a beginner with linux but i had no issues like that after installing open vpn, configure it and connect
[18:28] <Guest44752> even kodi run through it and netflix stop
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[22:15] <tmroland> hi, how do i remove software & updates app?
[22:15] <tmroland> the gtk one
[22:15] <tmroland> it got installed by some other package
[22:20] <genii> tmroland: sudo apt-get purge update-manager && sudo apt-get install --reinstall update-manager-kde
[22:20] <genii> ..to make sure the first one doesn't wipe dependencies out the kde specific one also needs
[22:22] <Eickmeyer> genii: I'm pretty sure tmroland means software-properties. There is no update-manager-kde.
[22:22] <genii> !info update-manager-kde
[22:22] <ubottu> Package update-manager-kde does not exist in bionic
[22:23] <genii> Hm, not in bionic. But my xenial definitely has it
[22:23] <genii> !info update-manager-kde xenial
[22:23] <ubottu> update-manager-kde (source: update-manager): Support modules for Muon Notifier and Apper. In component universe, is optional. Version 1:16.04.15 (xenial), package size 2 kB, installed size 84 kB
[22:24] <tmroland> ty
[22:27] <tmroland> why is there this glitch in kubuntu that i have 2 pulseaudio volume control in multimedia?
[22:27] <tmroland> same stuff
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[23:20] <IrcsomeBot2> <carbonzero> (Photo, 960x1280) https://irc-attachments.kde.org/QnBsy7ca/file_14428.jpg
[23:20] <IrcsomeBot2> <carbonzero> Can anybody tell me if this error's been fixed?
[23:21] <IrcsomeBot2> <carbonzero> Maybe I'll try a new beta install again to see.
[23:51] <valorie> @carbonzero what command did you actually run, and from where?
[23:52] <valorie> the error message looks like a mixup somewhere