[02:44] <n-iCe> hi
[02:44] <lynorian> hi n-iCe
[02:45] <n-iCe> how you doing
[02:45] <lynorian> good this channel is for support do you have any way I can help you?
[02:46] <n-iCe> I don't even use ubuntu
[02:46] <n-iCe> or lubuntu in this case
[02:46] <n-iCe> :p
[05:37] <JohnDoe_71Rus> hi. lubuntu 18.04 and old netbook acer ao725. The touchpad is disabled at the boot and i need use Fn+f7 key to enable it. I want working touchpad at boot
[06:04] <guiverc_d> JohnDoe_71Rus, I can't help (i use only desktops), but https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Lubuntu/Mouse contains information that may help you
[07:47] <hycann> h
[09:35] <kubokeke> hi
[11:40] <adcax> can anyone suggests a lightest ubuntu flavour? the newest lubuntu lags on my old laptop
[11:42] <adcax> please suggest a lighter ubuntu flavor. Latest version (with LXQt) 18.10 is not running properly on my old laptop
[11:42] <guiverc_d> adcax, lubuntu is generally regarded as the lightest, however you can also misused a desktop & make it perform worse than another if you use inappropriate apps on it (eg. use GTK+ apps on a Qt base and you've caused your memory to have duplicate libs wasting memory..)
[11:43] <guiverc_d> I tested Lubuntu 18.10 on a 1gb single core pentium M - and I was happy.  but with only 1gb of memory, I'd be careful with the apps I used...
[11:44] <adcax> ok thanks
[11:45] <guiverc_d> I also tested Xubuntu (GTK+) on the same laptop -- if I wanted GTK+ apps, Xubuntu would possibly be a better choice; but I did prefer Lubuntu on it (with Qt base)
[11:45] <guiverc_d> (Lubuntu 18.04 with LXDE may also be another choice... with it's longer LTS life)
[11:46] <guiverc_d> my point is you need to consider the DESKTOP (& its base) with apps you intend using; esp. with limited ram... with enough ram you can ignore the libs (& memory they require)
[12:19] <Mead> I have 18.04, if I run the command "apt full-upgrade" would this install a newer version of lubuntu?
[12:35] <apt-ghetto> No, it takes the repos defined in /etc/apt/source.list your added sources
[22:12] <wxl> Abraham (use a nickname/username for IRC people to be able to mention you easier), try adding -o=APT::Install-Suggests=false to your apt command
[22:13] <wxl> is that with my suggestion?
 inkscape is installed
[22:19] <wxl> horray :)
 but I need that package
[22:20] <wxl> you need python-uniconvertor?
 @wxl [<wxl> you need python-uniconvertor?], Yes
 the application has a bug
[22:21] <wxl> that package hasn't been available since 16.04 :(
 @wxl [<wxl> that package hasn't been available since 16.04 :(], :'(
 Any suggestions?
[22:22] <wxl> i think there may be a snap package.. you could try that perhaps
[22:23] <wxl> python-uniconvertor is broken in upstream debian, too
[22:24] <wxl> what's really strange though is that it's a *SUGGEST*, which is the lowest form of "dependency." it's not even a dependency, technically. it's an enhancement.
[22:25] <wxl> i.e. inkscape should work just fine without it
[22:25] <wxl> the other thing i can tell you, is that this problem should exist across every flavor of ubuntu and debian and all of their derivatives
 suggests can be wierd?
[22:29] <Eickmeyer> Suggests can be outdated and not even factor anything that actually exists or not.
[22:29] <wxl> that
 @wxl [<wxl> i.e. inkscape should work just fine without it], the application closes because of that error
[22:30] <wxl> how do you know it's because of that error and not some other problem?
 The weird thing is that in my work I have Lubuntu 18.04 LXTQ and inkscape works fine but in Lubuntu 19.04 no
[22:34] <wxl> different versions of inkscape.. not necessarily weir
[22:34] <wxl> d
 @wxl [<wxl> different versions of inkscape.. not necessarily weir], ok
[22:35] <wxl> so what is the error? and how do you know it's related to uniconvertor?
 when I copy and paste images that error appears
[22:36] <wxl> what error?
 and inkscape seems to need it for svg images
 give me a second and I translate the error
[22:47] <lynorian> oh seems there is a github fork that has emerged after orignial maintainer left
 You must install the UniConvertor software. … For GNU-Linux: install the python uniconverter package. … For Windows: Download it from … https://sk1project.net/modules.php?name=Products&product=uniconvertor&op=download and install it in the Python location on your system
 I did not know, I did not know it
 @lynorian [<lynorian> oh seems there is a github fork that has emerged after orignial maint …], I did not know, I did not know it
[22:55] <lynorian> @ajedrezAbraham I was not talking about inkscape more stuff iwth the manual
 👍
[22:57] <wxl> @AjedrezAbraham https://unix.stackexchange.com/a/437143
[22:58] <wxl> tl;dr save to svg and you should be able to get around the issue
[22:58] <wxl> otherwise try the snap https://snapcraft.io/inkscape
[23:00] <Eickmeyer> Another option is to ask someone on #inkscape on irc.
[23:00] <wxl> i suspect it won't go well
[23:00] <wxl> "tell your distribution to fix their packages"
[23:01] <Eickmeyer> wxl: I've only ever once encountered that.
[23:02] <wxl> Eickmeyer: oh what blissful world you must live in :)
[23:05] <lynorian> wxl the github fork somewhat works
[23:06] <lynorian> I think I should rename the LXDE branch as 18.04
[23:07] <wxl> i agree (also -> devel)
 @lubuntu_bot I will try to install UniConvertor from https://sk1project.net/viewpage.php?page_id=26
[23:09] <wxl> @AjedrezAbraham that's really old and targeted at the *10.04* version of ubuntu. i would NOT suggest it
 @wxl [<wxl> @AjedrezAbraham that's really old and targeted at the *10.04* version of u …], This package: … python-uniconvertor-2.0rc4_20190402_ubuntu_18.10_amd64.deb
 sudo dpkg -i python-uniconvertor-2.0rc4_20190402_ubuntu_18.10_amd64.deb
 sudo apt install -f
 it worked 😃
[23:21] <wxl> yay
 XD
[23:22] <wxl> Eickmeyer: if you have any intention of caring about that and have people to bug about it it looks like they may not know where the upstream is?
[23:40]  * Eickmeyer is confused
[23:41] <Eickmeyer> wxl: if that package is needed for some workflows, then it might be worth getting the github fork packaged.
[23:42] <wxl> Eickmeyer: well, inkscape XD it looks like debian can't find the upstream source
[23:42] <Eickmeyer> wxl: I'll ask about it.
[23:43] <Eickmeyer> Expecially since it directly affects Ubuntu Studio.
[23:45] <wxl> well thanks because it doesn't lubuntu XD