didrocksgood morning06:30
didrocksAm I the only one to see 2 things? Scaling factor is all messed up for the Shell UI on boot and some slowdown, like pause for 5s sometimes, second array, all UI frozen?06:32
jibelI don't see that06:33
didrocksopening a bug on the first one at least, easily reproducible here06:33
dufluMorning didrocks and jibel06:39
dufludidrocks, there's a known issue for Nvidia06:39
didrocksduflu: is there a bug opened? It's indeed Nvidia. Is it worked on?06:43
didrocks(and hi!)06:43
RAOFdidrocks: Oh! You also see the 5 second pauses!06:44
RAOFbug# 181555006:45
didrocksRAOF: oh, so nvidia specific as well?06:45
RAOFdidrocks: For me, gnome-shell spins, unresponsive, at 100% CPU usage each time a zsh prompt is displayed.06:46
didrocksgood that you spot it on RSS06:46
RAOFdidrocks: Yeah. My intel + amd box is much, much smoother.06:46
didrocksit's really a PITA. Let's nominate it for -incoming06:47
RAOFYeah, it's a tremendously bad experience.06:47
didrocksRAOF: do you have the scaling factor issue as well on that box?06:49
RAOFI do not have the scaling factor issue on that box.06:49
RAOFI'm booting with `nvidia_drm.modeset=1`, though, which has… different behaviours.06:50
RAOF(Mostly the behaviour is that GDM can't log in until I manually start an X server on a VT)06:50
didrocksok, another pause :(06:50
didrocksand I didn't start any app anything06:51
didrocksjust switched window06:51
RAOFI don't *normally* notice it just generally mousing around. But that's partially because it happens *every* *single* *time* I press <enter> in a terminal.06:53
oSoMoNgood morning desktoppers06:59
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dufludidrocks, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-shell/+bugs?field.tag=x11-scaling07:04
dufluHi oSoMoN and RAOF07:04
oSoMoNhi duflu07:05
oSoMoNsalut didrocks07:06
oSoMoNdidrocks, mw_hudson already handled the rust-cbindgen no-change rebuild07:06
dufluRAOF, didrocks, sounds easy to reproduce. I might switch to NVIDIA instead of reverting to SRU work soon07:13
dufluRAOF: where you using modeset=1 when the bug was first reported?07:14
RAOFI think I was using modest=1 when U first reported the bug. It'll be recorded in the apport details anyway.07:15
dufluRAOF, it's not07:15
RAOFOh, /proc/cmdline isn't captured?07:16
RAOFAnyway, I probably was using it.07:16
dufluUnless you count the loaded module name07:16
RAOFI can try without, if you like.07:16
dufluRAOF, yes please07:16
RAOFI might need to get to that tomorrow.07:19
didrocksoSoMoN:oh nice! THANKS :)07:19
didrocks(without caps)07:19
didrocksduflu: FYI, I have modeset=107:21
didrocksI have it for a couple of cycles07:21
dufluRAOF: yeah I thought that too. Night...07:25
dufludidrocks, thanks07:26
didrocksduflu: if I can help debugging, do not hesitate07:26
dufluOooh. Actually mutter uses a completely different code path for Nvidia modeset=107:27
dufluOne which I don't use or test normally07:27
didrocksahhh, so you might be able to reproduce :)07:27
dufludidrocks, but you weren't using modeset=1 with the scaling issue right?07:40
dufluI also assume people using nvidia-drm.modeset=1 are using Wayland sessions because there's no point otherwise. Although that might have its own bugs if used with Xorg07:41
didrocksduflu: I do have the scaling issue with modeset=107:44
didrocksand I'm using the Xorg session, I switched to modeset=1 a while ago, when testing Wayland07:44
didrocksto test the "Run that on intel, run this on nvidia" IIRC07:45
RAOFI am not using the Wayland session, either.07:45
RAOF(because Steam doesn't work in it 😀)07:45
RAOFI use `modeset=1` to test Mir07:46
didrocksRAOF: Steam doesn't start at all with Wayland?07:47
RAOFdidrocks: XWayland has no GL acceleration on NVIDIA.07:48
dufluCool, thanks didrocks and RAOF. That's odd but now I know.07:48
RAOFSo while Steam might *start*, it's not very useful 😀07:48
didrocksduflu: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-shell/+bug/1822478/comments/12 FYI07:49
ubot5`Ubuntu bug 1822478 in mutter (Ubuntu) "[regression][nvidia] All on screen text is tiny. Icons are normal size but text is nearly unreadable." [High,Triaged]07:49
didrocksRAOF: ahah :)07:49
didrocksok, got it07:49
didrocksduflu: so basically, when "resetting" on g-c-c, it does what I expect, the issue is only initial state on boot07:49
didrocksduflu: s/upon/until/ btw07:50
dufludidrocks, OK. I need to get through my pending work yet. I'll try and remember when I start on that bug proper07:50
didrockssounds good :)07:52
willcookemorning all07:55
didrockshey willcooke07:57
seb128good morning desktopers08:00
oSoMoNsalut seb12808:02
seb128lut oSoMoN, en forme ?08:02
oSoMoNça va, et toi?08:02
seb128ça va !08:02
didrockshey seb12808:03
Laneywhats up08:03
seb128lut didrocks, hey Laney08:03
dufluMorning willcooke and Laney08:04
oSoMoNgood morning willcooke, Laney08:04
dufluAnd good morning seb12808:04
seb128hey duflu willcooke08:05
willcookehey seb128.  Do I remember you saying you would take a look at this one?  https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/libnfs/+bug/174659808:05
ubot5`Ubuntu bug 1746598 in libnfs (Ubuntu Cosmic) "[MIR] libnfs" [Undecided,New]08:05
didrockshey Laney08:06
seb128willcooke, Eric has been working on it and I told him I would help if needed, it's a bit complicated. If that's for bug triaging purpose I can do that08:07
willcookethx seb128, yes for tracking purposes08:08
seb128willcooke, security team would prefer to have the new serie if we promote it, but that includes a soname change so it's non trivial08:08
Laneyhi seb128 duflu oSoMoN didrocks08:08
seb128k, done08:08
dufluHmm still April 1st on Stack Overflow08:13
willcookeoSoMoN, there is a huge openjdk upgrade bug open which has some LibreOffice tasks : https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/saaj/+bug/181413308:15
ubot5`Ubuntu bug 1814133 in virtualbox-hwe (Ubuntu Cosmic) "update to openjdk 11 in 18.04 LTS" [Undecided,New]08:15
willcookeoSoMoN, is that on your list somewhere?  i.e. should I assign it to you?08:15
oSoMoNwillcooke, yes, that's under control: I backported a couple of patches to fix the build against the new openjdk, the updated packages are in bionic-proposed and should migrate to -updates soon08:32
oSoMoNdo_ko and t_daitx are overseeing the update08:33
willcookethx oSoMoN08:33
oSoMoNyou can assign the libreoffice tasks to me if you want (and if LP lets you…)08:34
oSoMoNupdating such huge bug reports tends to timeout more often than not08:34
willcookeindeed :D08:34
willcookeduflu, re:  https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-shell/+bug/1803319 can I assign you on that one?  You already fixed it upstream, but it's targetted to a release and so either needs untargetting or an assignee08:43
ubot5`Ubuntu bug 1803319 in mutter (Ubuntu Disco) "GNOME Shell task bar menus not updated with external monitor primary and laptop screen fractionally scaled" [High,Triaged]08:43
dufluwillcooke, yes I was thinking the same and then forgot. That's the first time I've decided to unassign myself. The intention was to say that I won't be the one doing the 3.32.1 release which contains the fix08:44
dufluNow assigned again08:44
willcookeduflu, merci!08:45
dufluwillcooke, Jonas confirmed he expects there to be a 3.32.1 so I am assuming we will want to grab that in one go instead of patching each fix that it contains09:18
andyrockmonring all!09:19
duflumoaning andyrock09:19
dufluAlso good morning09:19
seb128hey andyrock09:19
seb128duflu, yeah, we are going to want to update, do you know when they plan to roll it out?09:20
dufluseb128, I don't know anything more09:20
andyrockhey seb128! did you have good holidays? :)09:20
dufluSome gnome stuff is already at 3.32.109:20
seb128duflu, k, no worry, probably this week09:20
seb128andyrock, yes, excellent, thx!09:21
willcookeduflu, cool, thanks.  (sorry was otp)_09:44
seb128willcooke, did you see the comment on https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubuntu-wallpapers/+bug/1819744 ?11:29
ubot5`Ubuntu bug 1819744 in ubuntu-wallpapers (Ubuntu) "19.04 Disco default wallpapers" [Undecided,Fix released]11:29
willcookeThe last one?  yeah, the wallpaper is slightly different for the grey one.  NFA as far as I'm concerned11:30
seb128k, thx, I just wanted to make sure it was ok/expected11:32
Laneyis the team meeting in 99 minutes or 159 minutes or 219 minutes?11:51
willcookeLaney, 98 mins11:52
Laneyit is pinned to 14:30 UK time then?11:58
LaneyI'll ask the fridge calendar people to update it11:58
willcookeLaney, yeah, looks like it's pinned to "United Kingdom Time"12:00
willcookehttps://imgur.com/a/xJKFUv5 \o/12:00
willcookeLaney, do you use IPv6 generally?  And if so, have you seen any problems in Disco?13:10
willcookeLaney, unping.  Seems there are general connectivity problems13:15
willcookewith the archive13:15
Laneybut yes, most of the time13:22
willcooke#startmeeting Desktop Team Meeting  2019-04-0213:29
meetingologyMeeting started Tue Apr  2 13:29:49 2019 UTC.  The chair is willcooke. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology.13:29
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willcookeRoll call: andyrock, didrocks, duflu (out), jbicha, jamesh (out), jibel, kenvandine, laney, oSoMoN, seb128, tkamppeter, trevinho, robert_ancell (out)13:30
oSoMoN     o/13:30
willcookeWe'll do the usual rls incoming bugs.  I already went through the tracking bugs and made sure they are all assigned etc.13:31
willcookeLet's start with B13:32
willcookeNice, zero.13:32
willcookeC:  http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-cc-incoming-bug-tasks.html13:32
willcookeAlso 0.13:32
willcookeD: http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-dd-incoming-bug-tasks.html13:33
willcookewe have some bugs to review  :)13:33
willcookeFirst up:13:33
ubot5`Ubuntu bug 1815550 in gnome-shell (Ubuntu) "[nvidia] gnome-shell RSS grows without limit, general slowness" [Critical,Confirmed]13:33
didrockswe discussed it this morning. It's really making disco unusable13:34
didrocks(nvidia drivers)13:34
willcooke+1 to investigate.13:34
seb128+1 for nominating/assigning13:34
didrocks+1, duflu started to have a look13:34
willcookeduflu seems like a good person to assign13:35
willcookeok, targetted and assigned13:35
ubot5`Ubuntu bug 1822478 in mutter (Ubuntu) "[regression][nvidia] All on screen text is tiny. Icons are normal size but text is nearly unreadable." [High,Triaged]13:36
willcooke+1 and already assigned to Trevinho13:36
didrockssame, annoying regression due to scaling factor with nvidia, so +113:36
willcookenext: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-shell/+bug/182207213:37
ubot5`Ubuntu bug 1822072 in gnome-shell (Ubuntu) "User selector doesn't have focus from login screen after screen turned off" [Medium,Confirmed]13:37
willcookeI logged this one.  It's a regression IMO.  But I'm interested to know if you think it's rls worthy or not.13:38
seb128I would vote -1 from the steps13:38
seb128but if that also happens when you lock the screen by keybinding so maybe that's a +113:38
willcookeI dont think it does effect lock screen13:39
seb128I don't think the "wait on the lock screen" is that common of an usecase and while slightly annoying the workaround is obvious13:39
seb128on the login screen*13:39
seb128I vote -notfixing13:39
seb128would still be worth reporting upstream/fixing if we can13:39
willcookekk, I'm happy with notfixing then13:40
willcookeand I can upstream13:40
ubot5`Ubuntu bug 1821901 in gnome-initial-setup (Ubuntu) "Location services option should be off by default" [Undecided,New]13:40
willcookeLegal team say this needs to be off by default.  So I think +1 on rls13:41
seb128k, +1 if legal says so13:41
seb128you can assign to me13:41
ubot5`Ubuntu bug 1821895 in gnome-shell (Ubuntu) "Gnome Shell crashes after resume on Disco" [Undecided,Incomplete]13:42
willcookeSeems to be wayland only.  So -1 for rls13:43
seb128it's lacking info, not confirmed and wayland only13:43
seb128the report doesn't even state what release he's using13:43
seb128ah, in the title13:44
seb128still, almost no info and not impacting the default session13:44
ubot5`Ubuntu bug 1821019 in gnome-terminal (Ubuntu) "gnome-terminal does not gain focus upon launch via clicking icon" [Undecided,Confirmed]13:44
willcookeI've got a feeling that duflu might have fixed this upstream13:44
oSoMoNthat one is really annoying13:45
seb128it's a dup of bug #181792413:45
ubot5`bug 1817924 in mutter (Ubuntu Disco) "(In Xorg sessions only) apps launched from gnome shell do not get input focus" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/181792413:45
willcookeDo we patch or wait for a point release upstream13:45
seb128the fix has been commited upstream13:45
seb128tarballs are due next week13:46
seb128we might want to backport a fix fixes meanwhile, up to Trevinho/duflu I guess13:46
seb128we can talk about that out of the meeting though13:46
ubot5`Ubuntu bug 1821933 in gnome-shell (Ubuntu) "Touch input is offset with two screens (even appearing on the wrong screen)" [Undecided,Confirmed]13:46
willcookeAnother one of mine.  It doesnt affect Fedora.  +1 to work on this13:47
seb128I would vote -notfixing13:47
seb128I don't think using touch screen with 2 monitors is common13:48
willcookeuh, that's a fair point13:48
seb128touch support is already not great and we don't get lot of flack for it13:48
seb128so I think our touch users number is low13:48
willcookeany other votes?  Otherwise notfixing13:48
seb128those who use docked is problem even lower13:48
didrocks-notfixing as well for now13:48
willcookek, that's the end of the incoming bugs13:49
willcookeAs I said earlier, the unassigned tracking bugs are all clear.13:50
andyrockmaybe let's just add a trello card for it13:50
willcookeandyrock, will do13:50
willcookeLaney, anything in the proposed migrations you want to raise?13:50
willcooke#topic AOB13:51
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willcookeAnyone got anything?13:51
willcookeOh, while I remember, jibel do you know how that backlight / blackscreen issue is going off hand?13:51
seb128what issue is that?13:52
jibelwillcooke, it's going nowhere afaik13:52
willcookejibel,  do you have a bug number handy?13:52
jibeli'ms searching13:53
willcookethx, I will follow up after the meeting then13:53
willcookeanything else for anyone?13:53
willcooke1 min before I end the meeting13:53
seb128not me13:53
oSoMoNnothing here13:53
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meetingologyMeeting ended Tue Apr  2 13:54:44 2019 UTC.13:54
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willcookethanks all13:54
jibelwillcooke, bug 182188213:54
ubot5`bug 1821882 in linux (Ubuntu) "Screen is very dark and brightness cannot be adjusted" [Undecided,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/182188213:54
willcookethanks jibel13:54
willcookekk, I will poke Pierre to reply13:55
willcookeand done13:56
seb128willcooke, is there of any concern to us? the report states it already exist in bionic so not a new issue, also seems to be a video driver problem on a specific config...13:57
willcookeI'd like that confirming by Pierre.  If it means that new machines (like that beefy Dell gaming laptop) get a black screen when trying to install, I'd love to see if fixed.  I'll see what t_jaalton says after Pierre has confirmed13:59
seb128willcooke, also is your touch coordinate bug happening only on the desktop view? or in other UI elements/apps?14:00
seb128hey trevinho14:00
seb128just in time to miss the meeting :p14:00
willcookeseb128, everything is offset, shell, window titles, etc14:00
Trevinhoseb128: hey...14:00
seb128willcooke, that's new from disco?14:01
willcookeseb128, yeah14:01
Trevinhoyes I set the alarm, but I think I put the wrong tz in it 😭14:01
Trevinhosaw the backlog by the way. but starting next week it will be too early anyways (7 am)14:08
seb128Laney, do you think you could skip the n-m/ppc64el failure? the current disco version has the same problem, it's not a regression from 1.16 in proposed14:59
Laneyseb128: see my comment on the card, I already did do that15:42
seb128Laney, ah, I was not on this card/didn't see the comment before, I've just been trying to clean stuff from update_excuses_by_team.html#desktop-packages today15:44
seb128got cairo, pygobject and few others off :)15:44
seb128Laney, thx!15:45
seb128(it's still blocking migration but I guess we need to wait a bit longer?)15:46
seb128the page refreshed 10 mins ago though...15:46
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greybackkenvandine: hey, with demise of remote desktop-helper, how should one use desktop helpers now? Copy/paste the yaml?16:15
greybackI've not had to look into the topic in a while, hence being very out of date!16:15
kenvandinegreyback: yes, copy the yaml16:31
kenvandineuntil we have the extension16:32
greybackkenvandine: ack, thanks!16:34
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* willcooke -> haircut17:28
willcookenight all17:28
oSoMoNgood night17:32
seb128andyrock, bdmurray was asking if bug #1807900 is still on your todolist (I guess it should be an easy change?)18:06
ubot5`bug 1807900 in update-manager (Ubuntu Bionic) "update-manager suggests to use Livepatch, which is not available" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/180790018:06
andyrockyup thanks for reminding me that18:07
seb128andyrock, np! :)18:11

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