[00:02] hi, I'm having a very strange issue in one of my test machine. Wifi and sound stopped working. [00:03] does it persist on reboot? [00:03] tried with today live and same issue. I have dual boot with win xp, it works ok. [00:03] huh [00:03] when y type sudo, nothing happens. [00:03] O_O [00:04] any ideas where to look? I alway forget where are the logs [00:04] guiverc: you done any testing today? [00:04] /var/log [00:04] or you could get systemd to give you logs [00:04] not lubuntu related (about to finish one very soon) [00:05] ok well make sure to check wifi/sound when you do [00:05] wxl: in var/log latest timestamp is from 31 march [00:05] @tsimonq2 [It didn't break it before :P], well international characters are a pain in the ass, and I don't have the config you were using before because of someone's stupidity 😛 [00:05] and I didn't write that config :P [00:05] wth weird [00:05] i've never heard of anything like that before! [00:05] okay i'll update iso & test on laptops later [00:06] @wxl [ wth weird], I thought I might have broke my installation, but with todays live is same issue. MAYBE IS A KERNEL ISSUE [00:06] (sorry for casp lock) [00:06] but why that wouldn't log...... i don't get that [00:06] if it's a kernel issue it should be an issue with other flavors so that might be something to try [00:07] Every startup or shutdown should generate log entries at the very least. [00:07] @wxl [ if it's a kernel issue it should be an issue with other flavors so that mi …], just find date/time is wrong set. maybe that's the issue [00:07] that shouldn't be so destructive but might explain the weird timestamps [00:08] sudo, wifi, sound should all still work [00:08] ssl would be hosed [00:08] @tsimonq2 wtfh you know what's stupid [00:08] apparently copy-paste breaks encodings :/ [00:08] you are? [00:08] wxl: I'mma taser you for that [00:09] in a specific area that is very uncomfortable [00:09] too late, i already won the battle :) [00:09] @wxl [ you are?], yes [00:09] *sigh* [00:09] * wxl pats teward's head [00:09] wxl: shush [00:09] had a long day [00:10] * Eickmeyer sprinkles bacteria on whatever teward is eating [00:10] Eickmeyer: joke's on you i'm already eating bacteria. Acidophilus-enhanced milk (because a gut bug) [00:10] so you're only HELPING me here [00:11] Who said I was doing it maliciously? ;) [00:12] lol [00:12] * teward injects more bacteria into Eickmeyer's yogurt [00:12] * teward waits for more cottage cheese [00:13] Om nom nom nom... [00:13] @tsimonq2 should work now, so shush. [00:13] stupid windows encoding copying with putty due to a full disk clone on my normal laptop [00:22] wxl: https://pastebin.com/bKPZsENL [00:22] abstract: [ 60.096344] BUG: unable to handle kernel NULL pointer dereference at 0000000000000000 [00:22] that's with dmesg [00:22] oh wow [00:23] any ideas on how/where to proceed? [00:23] i'd start searching [00:23] starting maybe with launchpad [00:25] that should be ubuntu? [00:25] welllll it could be filed anywhere so i'd just search in launchpad [00:26] I found some, but are form a year ago, not sure is same issue. I mean, I blame kernel 5 [00:28] will boot with another kernel and see [00:33] yes, Kernel issue 4.19 work ok [00:36] @tsimonq2: is it normal that we'd be getting a new kernel this late in the cycle??? [00:37] wxl: AIUI, no, but that'd be a kernel team question... [00:37] @wxl [ @tsimonq2: is it normal that we'd be getting a new kernel this late in the …], Yes [00:38] wait really? [00:38] I've seen new kernels the day before release [00:38] @tsimonq2 [I've seen new kernels the day before release], but a big change like 4 to 5? [00:41] @HMollerCl [but a big change like 4 to 5?], Yeah [00:41] The bump from 4 to 5 was kind of arbitrary though [00:41] Like teward's domain names *shot* [00:41] *shoots @tsimonq2 and then loots the body* [00:44] * Eickmeyer read that as "... and then loses the body" [00:47] Tbf 5 has been in the dailies for a while. I have been running it on my main system and haven't had any issues to date. I have a laptop running it too that has been ok. Everyone's hardware reacts differently though. [00:51] @kc2bez [Tbf 5 has been in the dailies for a while. I have been running it on my main sys …], that's true, I haven't found a similar bug [00:51] wxl: any ideas agains with package to file the bug? [00:53] I think is linux [00:53] So wait, it works fine with 4.19 but breaks with 5.0? [00:54] If you wanna have some fun you could Git bisect it. ;) [00:54] It's not terribly complicated but it does require *some* knowledge [00:55] If you decide to go that route, you could report a precise bug and get some real action on it [00:59] @tsimonq2 [So wait, it works fine with 4.19 but breaks with 5.0?], yes [00:59] @tsimonq2 [If you decide to go that route, you could report a precise bug and get some real …], If I had time to do it I would. [01:00] Ok [01:04] here is the bug filed https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1822913 [01:07] On the weekend I disassembly the notebook, I thought it might be a problem with the physical switch, I broke it trying to fix it :( [01:07] (wifi switch) [01:08] wxl: fyi: thinkpad x201 & sl510 connected to 5ghz & 2.4ghz hidden wifi fine (respectively), sound & media keys all worked great [11:19] @tsimonq2 [If you wanna have some fun you could Git bisect it. ;)], This git dissect should be done in the computer with problems or can it be done in anyone? [11:38] @HMollerCl [This git dissect should be done in the computer with problems or can it be done …], The bisect can be done wherever, but it involves testing it [11:41] @tsimonq2 [The bisect can be done wherever, but it involves testing it], Mmm, I can't test it here but I could look some things. Any readings I could use? Or how to Google them? [11:47] :) https://git-scm.com/docs/git-bisect [12:53] apparently is dupe of https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1821564 there are the instructions for bisecting. As soon as I have time I will do it, but I think it will be no sooner than the weekend. [16:51] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [T36: Fix full disk encryption on BIOS systems.] apt-ghetto (apt-ghetto) commented on the task: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T36#355 [17:37] did the python3-rtd-theme package get installed? [17:40] ``` … $ sudo apt -y install python3-rtd-theme … Reading package lists... Done … Building dependency tree … Reading state information... Done … E: Unable to locate package python3-rtd-theme``` [17:43] the python3-sphinx-rtd-theme was installed yes [17:43] Actually [17:43] but not python3-rtd-theme [17:43] python3-sphinx-rtd-theme is already the newest version (0.2.4-1). [17:43] i did it myself :P [17:43] Yeah [17:43] @teward001 [the python3-sphinx-rtd-theme was installed yes], Jinx! [17:43] oops sorry wrong package name just got up [18:11] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [T36: Fix full disk encryption on BIOS systems.] kc2bez (Dan Simmons) commented on the task: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T36#356 [18:23] *gives @lynorian coffee* [18:39] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [T36: Fix full disk encryption on BIOS systems.] apt-ghetto (apt-ghetto) commented on the task: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T36#357 [19:34] now comes the hard part for what builds the manual with the extension wxl told me about is I need this https://github.com/sphinxcontrib-versioning-ng/sphinxcontrib-versioning the PYPi version is broken with newer versions of sphinx [19:41] lynorian: are we saying that we have to install this manually/by-hand? [19:42] unfortaetnly [19:42] if the PyPI version is busted with newer sphinx what says the master branch works? [19:43] especially since its CI is failing perpetually [19:43] ugh I should have looked into that [19:44] appveyor looks like its succeeding but its Travis setup is botched something nasty [19:44] not sure if code related CI failure or just Travis crap [19:46] teward: the travis seems like it isn't even checking the code in [19:46] yeah it does, but i also can't confirm later python compat beyond 3.5 [19:47] the server has 3.6 [19:47] so not sure if it's the Python version or the Sphinx version breaking [19:47] lynorian: i can TRY and install that manually if you want... [19:48] I only have it working locally [19:48] on Installed: 3.6.7-1~18.10 [19:49] that's 18.10 [19:49] manual server is 18.04 [19:50] understandable [19:50] I might need to find one of my 18.04 test installs and make sure it works [19:50] i don't think it works OOTB [19:50] https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/CrppwryTC5/ [19:52] ouch [19:58] yep [20:16] sigh this is frustrating now I might need the other solution of read the docs hosting ... [20:34] isn't RTD self-hostable? [20:37] teward: it is but at the meeting remember elasticsearch stuff you don't want to set up? [20:37] you mean the stuff I might set up anyways? [20:37] ok [20:37] if the other mechanism of manual building is not usable [20:37] i'll look into this [20:38] ES as a cluster can be *large* but if absolutely necessary I'll deploy it [20:38] *bookmarks RTD installation data for himself to smoke-test localy* [20:38] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [T37: Look into deploying RTD and its corresponding ES cluster to host Manual] teward (Thomas Ward) just created this task: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T37 [20:39] oops [20:39] that was supposed to be a private phab task xD [20:39] (there's an infra project on Phab that I've been using to track Infra related tasks) [21:07] so the only headache here is... [21:07] RTD uses Docker containers for its build envs [21:08] i'll need to tweak some container security settings to get the Docker parts installed [21:08] ES is a separate beast for search :/ [21:08] but i'll look into that stuff once i'm home. [21:09] thanks teward