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didrocksgood morning06:05
didrocksthumper: thanks for splitting those utils package! I can hear Dave Cheney ghost telling "no utils package name please" :)06:09
didrocksand hey btw ;)06:10
dufluMorning didrocks06:53
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dufluMorning oSoMoN07:10
dufluAnd morning seb12807:10
didrockshey duflu07:19
oSoMoNgood morning desktoppers07:19
oSoMoNhey duflu, didrocks07:19
didrockshey oSoMoN07:24
thumperdidrocks: hey07:37
thumperdidrocks: yeah Dave Cheney was also echoing in my ears07:37
thumperwe still have work to do, but slowly slowly07:37
seb128lut didrocks oSoMoN, en forme ?07:59
oSoMoNsalut seb128, la forme et toi?07:59
willcookemorning all07:59
willcookeOhh fun start to the day...  I can see the lock screen behind the desktop today :)08:00
dufluwillcooke, prize for the prettiest wrongness08:01
willcooke:)08:01
willcookeI was fiddling with PPAs, so it's probably me08:01
Laneyyo08:02
seb128oSoMoN, en forme !08:02
seb128hey willcooke08:02
oSoMoNgood morning willcooke & Laney08:02
seb128willcooke, you are on a strike to find bugs this week08:02
willcookeIt's a lot more fun than spreadsheets and docs08:03
willcooke:)08:03
didrockssalut seb128, ça va, et toi ?08:03
didrocksheu willcooke? Laney08:03
seb128ça va !08:03
Laneyhey oSoMoN didrocks08:09
tjaaltonTrevinho: hi, remind me again, which patch should be added to xserver for the hidpi support? the bug doesn't say08:09
willcookejibel, what was the final state of the open-vmware-tools package auto-install?  Did it all land?08:18
seb128willcooke, the trello card suggests it did08:32
andyrockgood morning all! :)08:32
seb128hey andyrock!08:32
oSoMoNgood morning andyrock08:33
jibelwillcooke, everything landed, the only remaining bit is a release of ubiquity08:33
willcookejibel, woot!  Could you update this bug?  https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/open-vm-tools/+bug/1790427  vmware are asking08:34
ubot5`Ubuntu bug 1790427 in open-vm-tools (Ubuntu) "Automatically install open-vm-tools when installer running in a VMware VM" [Undecided,Incomplete]08:34
jibelwillcooke, this was the bug for server. The bug for desktop with the FFe is bug 181920708:36
ubot5`bug 1819207 in ubiquity (Ubuntu Disco) "[FFe] Add Modaliases to open-vm-tools-desktop to allow automatic installation by ubuntu-drivers" [High,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/181920708:36
seb128tjaalton, from IRC log he said08:38
seb128<Trevinho>seb128, tjaalton: actually we can just ship https://gitlab.freedesktop.org/xorg/xserver/merge_requests/80.patch which is smaller08:38
gitbotxorg issue (Merge request) 80 in xserver "xfree86: Reset transforms in xf86CrtcCloseScreen" [Closed]08:38
seb128tjaalton, he's current in south america so not going to be up before some hours08:38
willcookejibel, ohhh!  I see it now.  thank you!08:39
jibelwillcooke, I added a comment on the server bug to point to the FFe08:39
willcookejibel, and you already commented - thanks!08:39
tjaaltonseb128: ah, thanks08:39
seb128tjaalton, we should probably get that in now that we got the scaling work landed08:39
tjaaltonI'm preparing an upload08:40
willcookeDo you guys agree with my conclusion here: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/desktop-base/+bug/181942108:45
ubot5`Ubuntu bug 1819421 in desktop-base (Ubuntu) "Pop-up memu is not normal when right-click on desktop with disco-desktop-amd64.iso daily build" [Undecided,Invalid]08:45
didrockswillcooke: I guess the issue that the user is pointing is that you have two separators one on top of each other08:50
oSoMoNwillcooke, in the screenshot, there are two separators below the first entry in the menu, I think that's what the bug is08:50
didrockswhich is looking weird08:50
oSoMoNI can reproduce locally, the first time the context menu is shown08:51
didrocksok, not alone thinking that :)08:51
didrocksyep08:51
oSoMoNafter it's hidden and shown again, the second separator is gone08:51
didrocksright08:51
willcookeohhhhh08:51
willcookewow08:51
willcookegood spot08:51
willcookeha, and now I can the menu stuck open and I can't close it08:53
dufluHmm there are two open upstream bugs for that kind of thing...08:54
dufluMaybe related: https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/gnome-shell/issues/1051 and https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/gnome-shell/issues/72408:54
gitbotGNOME issue 1051 in gnome-shell "Big gaps in app menus" [Opened]08:54
gitbotGNOME issue 724 in gnome-shell "GNOME 3.30.1 Menus not updating." [Opened]08:54
dufluAnd if you're using multiple monitors then also https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/gnome-shell/issues/1049 would explain it08:56
gitbotGNOME issue 1049 in gnome-shell "Top bar menu is badly rendered" [Closed]08:56
seb128willcooke, btw, I just tried your multimonitor/touch coordinate being off issue, it doesn't happen on wayland session for me but it does under x1108:59
willcookeseb128, wayland is better for me, but not perfect08:59
seb128willcooke, you said you had it under wayland on Ubuntu? (but not on fedora)08:59
seb128I couldn't see an issue on wayland, I can click on the launcher, click on desktop icon, move by the titlebar08:59
willcookeseb128, correct, Fedora works fine.  Let me try on Wayland....09:00
seb128I was trying to rule out a distro issue09:00
seb128to me wayland looks fine on Ubuntu09:00
seb128would be nice if you can test again just to confirm it's not the case for you09:00
seb128oSoMoN, you commented on that g-c-c/region/input by win bug yesterday, does it mean you work on it/plan to upstream? I was going to send it upstream but I don't want to step on your feet09:02
oSoMoNseb128, I was going to file an upstream bug and ping Robert since this is code he wrote, he would know how to fix it09:02
dufluoSoMoN, did you say RH are shipping a smaller vaapi patch than Intel, and it works?!09:03
oSoMoNduflu, yes, last time I tested it it seemed to work09:03
willcookeseb128, in Wayland now... I don't get a "drag" on the desktop, and touch is very intermittent.  Generally works a bit on the left of the screen, but the right hand side is not working.  When I drag a window from the left to the right, when it gets to nearly half way (maybe 3/4s) then the window suddenly jumps to the right09:04
willcookeseb128, my set up is laptop on the left, monitor on the right09:04
willcookeif that makes any difference09:04
dufluwillcooke, that's not still using the PPA right?09:04
willcookeduflu, ohh09:04
dufluYeah I thought the PPA might do something like that09:04
oSoMoNduflu, IIRC the intel patch was much bigger (and harder to maintain) because they tried hard to have the feature disabled by default and hidden behind a feature flag, whereas the fedora patch doesn't care and just enables it.09:04
willcookeyeah, I have the PPA installed still (the second one).  One sec...09:05
oSoMoNseb128, I'll file that upstream bug in a moment09:05
dufluSounds like it's literally half working, which was my suspicion09:05
seb128oSoMoN, thx, upstream+Robert sounds good, thx for handling it!09:05
seb128duflu, did you upstream that coordinate one?09:06
seb128we should probably09:06
dufluseb128, what, the touchscreen patch?09:06
dufluNo on that one because it's definitely wrong09:06
seb128no, the bug09:06
dufluseb128, I think Will did already09:06
seb128it's an upstream issue/worth forwarding to gitlab no?09:06
seb128https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/mutter/+bug/1821933 has no upstream bug reference09:07
ubot5`Ubuntu bug 1821933 in mutter (Ubuntu) "Touch input is offset with two screens (even appearing on the wrong screen)" [Undecided,Triaged]09:07
dufluseb128, yeah sorry Will upstreamed a different bug. I would prefer one of you who experience the bug to describe it upstream though09:08
seb128willcooke, ^ can you do that?09:08
willcookeI don't think this touch issue is an upstream one, since it works on Fedora?09:08
dufluWeird09:08
seb128willcooke, for me it works under wayland, did you try x11 on fedora?09:08
dufluMust be a different coordinate translation path09:08
dufluwillcooke, do you have the synaptics driver installed for X11?09:09
willcookeseb128, Ah, I see.  No I didnt.  I will try that09:09
seb128thx09:09
seb128willcooke, which is why I was making you test wayland again on Ubuntu09:09
seb128willcooke, to me it looks like x11 session specific, so doesn't impact default fedora09:09
seb128also it works fine on disco/wayland here with the inspiron09:09
seb128(no ppa in use ;)09:09
willcookeduflu, no synaptics installed09:10
willcookeHow do I remove the mutter package this ppa installed and get back to the normal one?  Just remove it and reinstall?09:10
dufluwillcooke, ppa-purge09:10
duflufollowed by Tab and autocompletion will give you the rest :)09:11
willcookeseb128, nah - touch is screwed up on Wayland on Ubuntu too09:12
willcookeI'll make a video to try and demo09:12
seb128k09:13
seb128well wfm09:13
dufluI can't remember if touchscreens use libinput or evdev directly09:13
seb128also sounds like duflu found some issue with the code09:13
seb128I would upstream it anyway09:13
willcookeI'll swap the screen position around and see09:13
seb128or maybe try fedora/x11 if you can just to make sure it works there09:13
dufluYeah half the screen working is roughly what I expected with that hack09:13
dufluThere's not enough knowledge in the patch about which screens are touch and their placement to do it properly right now09:14
dufluBut with more work and wiring it might be possible09:14
willcookehm09:14
willcookexev isnt seeing anything09:14
willcooke(in wayland)09:15
willcookeit is seeing mouse and kbd09:15
willcookemaybe my laptop is dead09:15
dufluwillcooke, that's for high level X events. You want evtest09:15
willcookediing09:15
willcookedieing09:15
dufluevtest for kernel events09:15
willcookeah kk, so yeah touch events are being generated09:16
willcookeI will reinstall Disco first09:17
oSoMoNseb128, https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/gnome-control-center/issues/44009:17
gitbotGNOME issue 440 in gnome-control-center ""Region & Language > Input Source Options > Allow different sources for each window" doesn't take effect" [Opened]09:17
seb128oSoMoN, thx!09:17
willcookedisco ISO is back below 2GB again09:18
seb128weird :/09:18
willcookewhat did we remove :))09:18
seb128what did we loose this time?09:18
willcookelol09:18
seb128willcooke, can you trello import bug #1822775?09:18
ubot5`bug 1822775 in gnome-control-center (Ubuntu) "Different input sources per window not work" [Low,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/182277509:18
seb128it's one for Robert to comment on, he added the bug09:19
seb128he likes his work to be in the trello :p09:19
willcookedone: https://trello.com/c/fOjJE2am/302-bug1822775-different-input-sources-per-window-not-work09:20
seb128thx!09:20
willcookenp09:20
seb128bah09:21
seb128bug #182284609:21
ubot5`bug 1822846 in gnome-shell (Ubuntu) "Icon disappears from favorites bar/launcher in gnome-shell 3.32" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/182284609:21
seb128new GNOME version, new bugs :/09:21
dufluseb128, AFAIK that's the upstream dock only, not Ubuntu dock09:23
seb128ah09:24
seb128duflu, thx, title updated (and untagged, I don't think it qualify for rls bugs if the launcher doesn't have the issue)09:24
dufluAnd if you find the right blank space it is still clickable :)09:25
willcookeseb128, @ ISO size.  I think it's just the website reporting it differently.  GNOME Disks says it's 2.1GB09:32
seb128willcooke, k, makes sense09:32
* duflu glares at the 1.44MB floppies still unsorted on the shelf09:33
willcookeI ordered a USB floppy drive this week :)09:36
dufluI should do that. The problem is I don't have a drive any more09:37
willcookeBut, interesting story, it actually reads the disk and then presents it to the OS as a USB mass storage device.  So you can't do any low level floppy operations, like mounting Acorn ADFS disks :(09:37
seb128would be interesting to know if it still works/have a proper icon etc on Ubuntu :)09:37
seb128ah09:37
seb128that's going to fail to test that then09:38
dufluHmm, no more /dev/fd?09:38
willcookeI'll see if I can find a PC formatted disk.  I bet there is one in the loft then09:38
seb128:)09:38
willcookehttps://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/USB-Portable-3-5-External-Floppy-Disk-Drive-1-44Mb-Data-Storage-For-PC-Laptop/151974163614?ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&_trksid=p2060353.m2749.l264909:38
willcookethats the one I ordered09:38
willcookeseb128, duflu: having reinstalled Disco touch in Wayland *is* a lot better.  Tracks properly now by the looks of it.  I can't touch on desktop icons, which is a different bug, but I can move windows etc properly10:20
willcookenow to test x on Fedora10:21
dufluwillcooke, thanks yeah I feared X11 and Wayland had different code paths10:21
willcookewell, that was hard work.11:24
willcookeseb128, as you predicted.  Touch is broken on Fedora Xorg too.  I'll log upstream.11:24
seb128willcooke, thx :)11:28
seb128glad it's not distro specific11:28
willcookek, upstream bug logged too.  Food time.11:42
willcookehttps://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/gnome-shell/issues/113611:42
gitbotGNOME issue 1136 in gnome-shell "Touch input is offset in Xorg sessions with multiple monitors in 3.32" [Opened]11:42
seb128willcooke, thx, enjoy lunch!11:46
willcookeseb128, known and fixed upstream12:48
willcookehttps://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/mutter/issues/51412:48
gitbotGNOME issue 514 in mutter "Touchscreen input layer no longer follows screen rotation in X11 (regression)" [5. Backend: X11, 5. Input, Closed]12:48
seb128willcooke, woot, well done :)12:57
Berethas anyone else experienced https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/pulseaudio/+bug/1822881 ?13:10
ubot5`Ubuntu bug 1821663 in linux (Ubuntu) "duplicate for #1822881 [regression][snd_hda_codec_realtek] repeating crackling noise after 19.04 upgrade" [High,Confirmed]13:10
Beretoh, n/m13:10
Beretthe bug was updated and I missed it13:10
kenvandinenot me13:10
kenvandineBeret: looks like they are on top of that bug13:13
Beretyep13:13
Beretthanks13:13
kenvandinenp13:13
Trevinhomorning..13:44
willcookehi Trevinho13:44
Trevinhoand seb128 thanks for poinring it out to tjaalton13:44
Trevinhohi willcooke13:45
seb128hey trevinho, how are you?13:45
Trevinhogood, good :). Thanks seb128. you?13:45
seb128I'm good :)13:46
didrockshey Trevinho13:46
willcookekenvandine, remember "only keep two versions of the snap by default on the desktop" - that was no further action on us because it's the default now, right?13:47
kenvandinewillcooke: right13:47
willcookewoot13:47
willcookeseb128, ^13:47
willcookethanks kenvandine13:47
seb128great!13:47
seb128thx willcooke, kenvandine13:48
willcookeBeret, certainly sounds like a power saving issue (and we expected there to be some sound cards which needed blacklisting).  It would be helpful if you could confirm if your soundcard matches the ids that were added to the blacklist.  If not, then I think we should capture your IDs in that bug as well and get them added.13:51
seb128Beret, willcooke, to test without power saving add 'snd_hda_intel.power_save=0' to the kernel line in grub13:55
tjaaltonTrevinho: I've uploaded it, along with another crash fix14:03
Trevinhotjaalton: cool thanks14:03
Beretseb128, willcooke - yeah, I did the work around with the options snd-hda-intel power_save=014:28
Beretand that took care of it so it's definitely the kernel thing14:28
kenvandineBeret: great14:48
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oSoMoNgood evening all17:22
* willcooke heads out as well17:22
willcookenight17:22
sarnoldnn17:22
sarnoldhaha! I actually got in in time :)17:23
brlinI would like to ask if here's the proper place to ask question regarding the generation of the desktop images?17:53

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