[06:05] <didrocks> good morning
[06:09] <didrocks> thumper: thanks for splitting those utils package! I can hear Dave Cheney ghost telling "no utils package name please" :)
[06:10] <didrocks> and hey btw ;)
[06:53] <duflu> Morning didrocks
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[07:10] <duflu> Morning oSoMoN
[07:10] <duflu> And morning seb128
[07:19] <didrocks> hey duflu
[07:19] <oSoMoN> good morning desktoppers
[07:19] <oSoMoN> hey duflu, didrocks
[07:24] <didrocks> hey oSoMoN
[07:37] <thumper> didrocks: hey
[07:37] <thumper> didrocks: yeah Dave Cheney was also echoing in my ears
[07:37] <thumper> we still have work to do, but slowly slowly
[07:59] <seb128> lut didrocks oSoMoN, en forme ?
[07:59] <oSoMoN> salut seb128, la forme et toi?
[07:59] <willcooke> morning all
[08:00] <willcooke> Ohh fun start to the day...  I can see the lock screen behind the desktop today :)
[08:01] <duflu> willcooke, prize for the prettiest wrongness
[08:01] <willcooke> :)
[08:01] <willcooke> I was fiddling with PPAs, so it's probably me
[08:02] <Laney> yo
[08:02] <seb128> oSoMoN, en forme !
[08:02] <seb128> hey willcooke
[08:02] <oSoMoN> good morning willcooke & Laney
[08:02] <seb128> willcooke, you are on a strike to find bugs this week
[08:03] <willcooke> It's a lot more fun than spreadsheets and docs
[08:03] <willcooke> :)
[08:03] <didrocks> salut seb128, ça va, et toi ?
[08:03] <didrocks> heu willcooke? Laney
[08:03] <seb128> ça va !
[08:09] <Laney> hey oSoMoN didrocks
[08:09] <tjaalton> Trevinho: hi, remind me again, which patch should be added to xserver for the hidpi support? the bug doesn't say
[08:18] <willcooke> jibel, what was the final state of the open-vmware-tools package auto-install?  Did it all land?
[08:32] <seb128> willcooke, the trello card suggests it did
[08:32] <andyrock> good morning all! :)
[08:32] <seb128> hey andyrock!
[08:33] <oSoMoN> good morning andyrock
[08:33] <jibel> willcooke, everything landed, the only remaining bit is a release of ubiquity
[08:34] <willcooke> jibel, woot!  Could you update this bug?  https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/open-vm-tools/+bug/1790427  vmware are asking
[08:34] <ubot5`> Ubuntu bug 1790427 in open-vm-tools (Ubuntu) "Automatically install open-vm-tools when installer running in a VMware VM" [Undecided,Incomplete]
[08:36] <jibel> willcooke, this was the bug for server. The bug for desktop with the FFe is bug 1819207
[08:36] <ubot5`> bug 1819207 in ubiquity (Ubuntu Disco) "[FFe] Add Modaliases to open-vm-tools-desktop to allow automatic installation by ubuntu-drivers" [High,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1819207
[08:38] <seb128> tjaalton, from IRC log he said
[08:38] <seb128> <Trevinho>	seb128, tjaalton: actually we can just ship https://gitlab.freedesktop.org/xorg/xserver/merge_requests/80.patch which is smaller
[08:38] <gitbot> xorg issue (Merge request) 80 in xserver "xfree86: Reset transforms in xf86CrtcCloseScreen" [Closed]
[08:38] <seb128> tjaalton, he's current in south america so not going to be up before some hours
[08:39] <willcooke> jibel, ohhh!  I see it now.  thank you!
[08:39] <jibel> willcooke, I added a comment on the server bug to point to the FFe
[08:39] <willcooke> jibel, and you already commented - thanks!
[08:39] <tjaalton> seb128: ah, thanks
[08:39] <seb128> tjaalton, we should probably get that in now that we got the scaling work landed
[08:40] <tjaalton> I'm preparing an upload
[08:45] <willcooke> Do you guys agree with my conclusion here: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/desktop-base/+bug/1819421
[08:45] <ubot5`> Ubuntu bug 1819421 in desktop-base (Ubuntu) "Pop-up memu is not normal when right-click on desktop with disco-desktop-amd64.iso daily build" [Undecided,Invalid]
[08:50] <didrocks> willcooke: I guess the issue that the user is pointing is that you have two separators one on top of each other
[08:50] <oSoMoN> willcooke, in the screenshot, there are two separators below the first entry in the menu, I think that's what the bug is
[08:50] <didrocks> which is looking weird
[08:51] <oSoMoN> I can reproduce locally, the first time the context menu is shown
[08:51] <didrocks> ok, not alone thinking that :)
[08:51] <didrocks> yep
[08:51] <oSoMoN> after it's hidden and shown again, the second separator is gone
[08:51] <didrocks> right
[08:51] <willcooke> ohhhhh
[08:51] <willcooke> wow
[08:51] <willcooke> good spot
[08:53] <willcooke> ha, and now I can the menu stuck open and I can't close it
[08:54] <duflu> Hmm there are two open upstream bugs for that kind of thing...
[08:54] <duflu> Maybe related: https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/gnome-shell/issues/1051 and https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/gnome-shell/issues/724
[08:54] <gitbot> GNOME issue 1051 in gnome-shell "Big gaps in app menus" [Opened]
[08:54] <gitbot> GNOME issue 724 in gnome-shell "GNOME 3.30.1 Menus not updating." [Opened]
[08:56] <duflu> And if you're using multiple monitors then also https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/gnome-shell/issues/1049 would explain it
[08:56] <gitbot> GNOME issue 1049 in gnome-shell "Top bar menu is badly rendered" [Closed]
[08:59] <seb128> willcooke, btw, I just tried your multimonitor/touch coordinate being off issue, it doesn't happen on wayland session for me but it does under x11
[08:59] <willcooke> seb128, wayland is better for me, but not perfect
[08:59] <seb128> willcooke, you said you had it under wayland on Ubuntu? (but not on fedora)
[08:59] <seb128> I couldn't see an issue on wayland, I can click on the launcher, click on desktop icon, move by the titlebar
[09:00] <willcooke> seb128, correct, Fedora works fine.  Let me try on Wayland....
[09:00] <seb128> I was trying to rule out a distro issue
[09:00] <seb128> to me wayland looks fine on Ubuntu
[09:00] <seb128> would be nice if you can test again just to confirm it's not the case for you
[09:02] <seb128> oSoMoN, you commented on that g-c-c/region/input by win bug yesterday, does it mean you work on it/plan to upstream? I was going to send it upstream but I don't want to step on your feet
[09:02] <oSoMoN> seb128, I was going to file an upstream bug and ping Robert since this is code he wrote, he would know how to fix it
[09:03] <duflu> oSoMoN, did you say RH are shipping a smaller vaapi patch than Intel, and it works?!
[09:03] <oSoMoN> duflu, yes, last time I tested it it seemed to work
[09:04] <willcooke> seb128, in Wayland now... I don't get a "drag" on the desktop, and touch is very intermittent.  Generally works a bit on the left of the screen, but the right hand side is not working.  When I drag a window from the left to the right, when it gets to nearly half way (maybe 3/4s) then the window suddenly jumps to the right
[09:04] <willcooke> seb128, my set up is laptop on the left, monitor on the right
[09:04] <willcooke> if that makes any difference
[09:04] <duflu> willcooke, that's not still using the PPA right?
[09:04] <willcooke> duflu, ohh
[09:04] <duflu> Yeah I thought the PPA might do something like that
[09:04] <oSoMoN> duflu, IIRC the intel patch was much bigger (and harder to maintain) because they tried hard to have the feature disabled by default and hidden behind a feature flag, whereas the fedora patch doesn't care and just enables it.
[09:05] <willcooke> yeah, I have the PPA installed still (the second one).  One sec...
[09:05] <oSoMoN> seb128, I'll file that upstream bug in a moment
[09:05] <duflu> Sounds like it's literally half working, which was my suspicion
[09:05] <seb128> oSoMoN, thx, upstream+Robert sounds good, thx for handling it!
[09:06] <seb128> duflu, did you upstream that coordinate one?
[09:06] <seb128> we should probably
[09:06] <duflu> seb128, what, the touchscreen patch?
[09:06] <duflu> No on that one because it's definitely wrong
[09:06] <seb128> no, the bug
[09:06] <duflu> seb128, I think Will did already
[09:06] <seb128> it's an upstream issue/worth forwarding to gitlab no?
[09:07] <seb128> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/mutter/+bug/1821933 has no upstream bug reference
[09:07] <ubot5`> Ubuntu bug 1821933 in mutter (Ubuntu) "Touch input is offset with two screens (even appearing on the wrong screen)" [Undecided,Triaged]
[09:08] <duflu> seb128, yeah sorry Will upstreamed a different bug. I would prefer one of you who experience the bug to describe it upstream though
[09:08] <seb128> willcooke, ^ can you do that?
[09:08] <willcooke> I don't think this touch issue is an upstream one, since it works on Fedora?
[09:08] <duflu> Weird
[09:08] <seb128> willcooke, for me it works under wayland, did you try x11 on fedora?
[09:08] <duflu> Must be a different coordinate translation path
[09:09] <duflu> willcooke, do you have the synaptics driver installed for X11?
[09:09] <willcooke> seb128, Ah, I see.  No I didnt.  I will try that
[09:09] <seb128> thx
[09:09] <seb128> willcooke, which is why I was making you test wayland again on Ubuntu
[09:09] <seb128> willcooke, to me it looks like x11 session specific, so doesn't impact default fedora
[09:09] <seb128> also it works fine on disco/wayland here with the inspiron
[09:09] <seb128> (no ppa in use ;)
[09:10] <willcooke> duflu, no synaptics installed
[09:10] <willcooke> How do I remove the mutter package this ppa installed and get back to the normal one?  Just remove it and reinstall?
[09:10] <duflu> willcooke, ppa-purge
[09:11] <duflu> followed by Tab and autocompletion will give you the rest :)
[09:12] <willcooke> seb128, nah - touch is screwed up on Wayland on Ubuntu too
[09:12] <willcooke> I'll make a video to try and demo
[09:13] <seb128> k
[09:13] <seb128> well wfm
[09:13] <duflu> I can't remember if touchscreens use libinput or evdev directly
[09:13] <seb128> also sounds like duflu found some issue with the code
[09:13] <seb128> I would upstream it anyway
[09:13] <willcooke> I'll swap the screen position around and see
[09:13] <seb128> or maybe try fedora/x11 if you can just to make sure it works there
[09:13] <duflu> Yeah half the screen working is roughly what I expected with that hack
[09:14] <duflu> There's not enough knowledge in the patch about which screens are touch and their placement to do it properly right now
[09:14] <duflu> But with more work and wiring it might be possible
[09:14] <willcooke> hm
[09:14] <willcooke> xev isnt seeing anything
[09:15] <willcooke> (in wayland)
[09:15] <willcooke> it is seeing mouse and kbd
[09:15] <willcooke> maybe my laptop is dead
[09:15] <duflu> willcooke, that's for high level X events. You want evtest
[09:15] <willcooke> diing
[09:15] <willcooke> dieing
[09:15] <duflu> evtest for kernel events
[09:16] <willcooke> ah kk, so yeah touch events are being generated
[09:17] <willcooke> I will reinstall Disco first
[09:17] <oSoMoN> seb128, https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/gnome-control-center/issues/440
[09:17] <gitbot> GNOME issue 440 in gnome-control-center ""Region & Language > Input Source Options > Allow different sources for each window" doesn't take effect" [Opened]
[09:17] <seb128> oSoMoN, thx!
[09:18] <willcooke> disco ISO is back below 2GB again
[09:18] <seb128> weird :/
[09:18] <willcooke> what did we remove :))
[09:18] <seb128> what did we loose this time?
[09:18] <willcooke> lol
[09:18] <seb128> willcooke, can you trello import bug #1822775?
[09:18] <ubot5`> bug 1822775 in gnome-control-center (Ubuntu) "Different input sources per window not work" [Low,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1822775
[09:19] <seb128> it's one for Robert to comment on, he added the bug
[09:19] <seb128> he likes his work to be in the trello :p
[09:20] <willcooke> done: https://trello.com/c/fOjJE2am/302-bug1822775-different-input-sources-per-window-not-work
[09:20] <seb128> thx!
[09:20] <willcooke> np
[09:21] <seb128> bah
[09:21] <seb128> bug #1822846
[09:21] <ubot5`> bug 1822846 in gnome-shell (Ubuntu) "Icon disappears from favorites bar/launcher in gnome-shell 3.32" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1822846
[09:21] <seb128> new GNOME version, new bugs :/
[09:23] <duflu> seb128, AFAIK that's the upstream dock only, not Ubuntu dock
[09:24] <seb128> ah
[09:24] <seb128> duflu, thx, title updated (and untagged, I don't think it qualify for rls bugs if the launcher doesn't have the issue)
[09:25] <duflu> And if you find the right blank space it is still clickable :)
[09:32] <willcooke> seb128, @ ISO size.  I think it's just the website reporting it differently.  GNOME Disks says it's 2.1GB
[09:32] <seb128> willcooke, k, makes sense
[09:33]  * duflu glares at the 1.44MB floppies still unsorted on the shelf
[09:36] <willcooke> I ordered a USB floppy drive this week :)
[09:37] <duflu> I should do that. The problem is I don't have a drive any more
[09:37] <willcooke> But, interesting story, it actually reads the disk and then presents it to the OS as a USB mass storage device.  So you can't do any low level floppy operations, like mounting Acorn ADFS disks :(
[09:37] <seb128> would be interesting to know if it still works/have a proper icon etc on Ubuntu :)
[09:37] <seb128> ah
[09:38] <seb128> that's going to fail to test that then
[09:38] <duflu> Hmm, no more /dev/fd?
[09:38] <willcooke> I'll see if I can find a PC formatted disk.  I bet there is one in the loft then
[09:38] <seb128> :)
[09:38] <willcooke> https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/USB-Portable-3-5-External-Floppy-Disk-Drive-1-44Mb-Data-Storage-For-PC-Laptop/151974163614?ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&_trksid=p2060353.m2749.l2649
[09:38] <willcooke> thats the one I ordered
[10:20] <willcooke> seb128, duflu: having reinstalled Disco touch in Wayland *is* a lot better.  Tracks properly now by the looks of it.  I can't touch on desktop icons, which is a different bug, but I can move windows etc properly
[10:21] <willcooke> now to test x on Fedora
[10:21] <duflu> willcooke, thanks yeah I feared X11 and Wayland had different code paths
[11:24] <willcooke> well, that was hard work.
[11:24] <willcooke> seb128, as you predicted.  Touch is broken on Fedora Xorg too.  I'll log upstream.
[11:28] <seb128> willcooke, thx :)
[11:28] <seb128> glad it's not distro specific
[11:42] <willcooke> k, upstream bug logged too.  Food time.
[11:42] <willcooke> https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/gnome-shell/issues/1136
[11:42] <gitbot> GNOME issue 1136 in gnome-shell "Touch input is offset in Xorg sessions with multiple monitors in 3.32" [Opened]
[11:46] <seb128> willcooke, thx, enjoy lunch!
[12:48] <willcooke> seb128, known and fixed upstream
[12:48] <willcooke> https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/mutter/issues/514
[12:48] <gitbot> GNOME issue 514 in mutter "Touchscreen input layer no longer follows screen rotation in X11 (regression)" [5. Backend: X11, 5. Input, Closed]
[12:57] <seb128> willcooke, woot, well done :)
[13:10] <Beret> has anyone else experienced https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/pulseaudio/+bug/1822881 ?
[13:10] <ubot5`> Ubuntu bug 1821663 in linux (Ubuntu) "duplicate for #1822881 [regression][snd_hda_codec_realtek] repeating crackling noise after 19.04 upgrade" [High,Confirmed]
[13:10] <Beret> oh, n/m
[13:10] <Beret> the bug was updated and I missed it
[13:10] <kenvandine> not me
[13:13] <kenvandine> Beret: looks like they are on top of that bug
[13:13] <Beret> yep
[13:13] <Beret> thanks
[13:13] <kenvandine> np
[13:44] <Trevinho> morning..
[13:44] <willcooke> hi Trevinho
[13:44] <Trevinho> and seb128 thanks for poinring it out to tjaalton
[13:45] <Trevinho> hi willcooke
[13:45] <seb128> hey trevinho, how are you?
[13:45] <Trevinho> good, good :). Thanks seb128. you?
[13:46] <seb128> I'm good :)
[13:46] <didrocks> hey Trevinho
[13:47] <willcooke> kenvandine, remember "only keep two versions of the snap by default on the desktop" - that was no further action on us because it's the default now, right?
[13:47] <kenvandine> willcooke: right
[13:47] <willcooke> woot
[13:47] <willcooke> seb128, ^
[13:47] <willcooke> thanks kenvandine
[13:47] <seb128> great!
[13:48] <seb128> thx willcooke, kenvandine
[13:51] <willcooke> Beret, certainly sounds like a power saving issue (and we expected there to be some sound cards which needed blacklisting).  It would be helpful if you could confirm if your soundcard matches the ids that were added to the blacklist.  If not, then I think we should capture your IDs in that bug as well and get them added.
[13:55] <seb128> Beret, willcooke, to test without power saving add 'snd_hda_intel.power_save=0' to the kernel line in grub
[14:03] <tjaalton> Trevinho: I've uploaded it, along with another crash fix
[14:03] <Trevinho> tjaalton: cool thanks
[14:28] <Beret> seb128, willcooke - yeah, I did the work around with the options snd-hda-intel power_save=0
[14:28] <Beret> and that took care of it so it's definitely the kernel thing
[14:48] <kenvandine> Beret: great
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[17:22] <oSoMoN> good evening all
[17:22]  * willcooke heads out as well
[17:22] <willcooke> night
[17:22] <sarnold> nn
[17:23] <sarnold> haha! I actually got in in time :)
[17:53] <brlin> I would like to ask if here's the proper place to ask question regarding the generation of the desktop images?