[13:01] @The_LoudSpeaker I have an installation of 22march adaily and pdf are opened by libreoffice, not qps. [13:36] @lynorian [13:36] got busy :/ [13:36] will stab it this weekend though if I get the chance :P [19:14] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [T15: Fix software-properties-qt under other DEs] hmollercl (Hans P. Möller) commented on the task: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T15#373 [19:22] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [T15: Fix software-properties-qt under other DEs] rikmills (Rik Mills) commented on the task: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T15#375 [19:34] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [T15: Fix software-properties-qt under other DEs] hmollercl (Hans P. Möller) commented on the task: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T15#376 [19:40] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [T15: Fix software-properties-qt under other DEs] rikmills (Rik Mills) commented on the task: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T15#377 [19:49] @acheronuk which can we use instead of lxqt-sudo ? [19:50] the .desktop says OnlyShowIn=LXQt; I don't know why it appear in kubuntu [19:51] oooo, It does'nt appear, is called by discover [19:51] ??? [19:51] @HMollerCl [@acheronuk which can we use instead of lxqt-sudo ?], Discover uses kdesu to raise privaleges on executing it. Previously it worked fine with just 'Exec = software-propertie-qt' [19:52] 'Exec = sudo software-propertie-qt' would probably not break [19:53] i assume yuo meant `Exec = sudo software-properties-qt` ;) [19:53] yes [19:54] just to be clear. the .desktop doesn't appear in kubuntus menu right? [19:55] If that's teh case, maybe the best option is to create 2 .desktops one w/o lxqt-sudo for kubuntu/discover and one only for lxqt with lxqt-sudo [19:57] @HMollerCl [just to be clear. the .desktop doesn't appear in kubuntus menu right?], No it doesn't. It would be good if it would. [19:58] But I'm not that fussed. I would prefer it actually launches. … Using just `Exec = sudo software-properties-qt` should manage that for both of us with needing seperate desktop files [19:59] Ummm. maybe [19:59] but I've read that it's not a good idea to use sudo for GUI, or am I wrong? [20:01] @HMollerCl [but I've read that it's not a good idea to use sudo for GUI, or am I wrong?], Pure sudo, yes [20:01] Using policykit it's mostly fine [20:04] Muon is ok, as it doesn't use the .desktop file exec line to launch it. It kdesu's the binary path [20:06] @tsimonq2 [Using policykit it's mostly fine], so, the solution would be change lxqt-sudo for sudo in the .desktop? [20:07] I'm confused, does `pkexec` not exist here, or does it just not work for the needs? [20:07] (I forget :/) [20:07] Discover runs it with root [20:08] wow this daily Lubuntu VM I have is in dire need of updates... [20:09] @teward001 [I'm confused, does pkexec not exist here, or does it just not work for this case …], $ pkexec software-properties-qt … qt.qpa.screen: QXcbConnection: Could not connect to display … Could not connect to any X display. [20:09] you ran that on terminal right? [20:09] @teward001 [you ran that on terminal right?], yes [20:09] @tsimonq2 [Discover runs it with root], via kdesu [20:09] did you try with alt+F2 ? [20:10] i'm assuming it won't work but... [20:10] you shouldn't use `sudo` for executing a GUI app [20:10] even via its desktop file [20:11] @teward001 [did you try with alt+F2 ?], how is this? you mean from tty? ctrl+alt+f2? [20:11] or lxqt-runner [20:11] ^ use that and test [20:12] in a non VM environment, lxqt-runner can be fast-run with Alt+F2 [20:13] um... [20:13] is lxqt-sudo a thing? [20:13] yes [20:13] aaaa, I forgot, I alway chage it for Super_L+R [20:14] well... [20:14] in PURE THEORY [20:14] could we use lxqt-sudo ? [20:14] @teward [ could we use lxqt-sudo ?], it breaks discover in kubuntu [20:14] ^ that. Kubuntu doesn't have it. [20:15] @HMollerCl [$ pkexec software-properties-qt … qt.qpa.screen: QXcbConnection: Could not connect …], IIRC, policykit needs to be told it is ok to use pkexec with the app 1st [20:15] in lxqt-runner pkexec software-properties-qt does nothing [20:16] lol unattended upgrades is locking dpkg so I can't do things >.> [20:16] *kicks system* [20:16] if sudo is not an option, 2 .desktop files is the simplest solution [20:18] @acheronuk what should I use for kubuntu in OnlyShowIn=LXQt; [20:18] ? [20:20] or use a gui "sudo" that rule us all [20:21] what about "sudo -i" [20:21] ? [20:21] sudo -i software-properties-qt [20:22] @HMollerCl [@acheronuk what should I use for kubuntu in OnlyShowIn=LXQt;], OnlyShowIn=KDE; [20:22] @acheronuk [OnlyShowIn=KDE;], thanks! [20:23] what are you calling the .desktop file? [20:24] software-properties-qt [20:24] is this https://git.launchpad.net/software-properties/tree/data/software-properties-qt.desktop.in [20:50] when running software-properties-qt w/o root privileges (bypassing the control) "PermissionError: [Errno 13] Permission denied: '//etc/apt/apt.conf.d/10periodic'" [20:51] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [T15: Fix software-properties-qt under other DEs] hmollercl (Hans P. Möller) commented on the task: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T15#378 [20:51] why would you run it without root? [20:52] testing, software-properties-gtk is run w/o root [20:52] it asks for root privileges when needed === guiver_d is now known as guiverc [21:07] Heyo, not sure how much longer I will have a network connection, do we have a meeting today? [21:07] we're supposed to yes [21:08] Here is my paste. [21:08] Worked with @tsimonq2 on fixing the Trojita build that was failing in ci. … Investigate BIOS full disk luks created https://phab.lubuntu.me/T36 … Issue reported upstream https://github.com/calamares/calamares/issues/1099 … Here is some further information https://gitlab.com/cryptsetup/cryptsetup/blob/master/docs/v2.1.0-ReleaseNotes … [21:08] Investigate bringing swaps back. https://phab.lubuntu.me/T22 … I am not sure cala hasn't been written for swap files yet I didn't have any success. I was able to get a small swap partition and the selection for none or small worked too. [21:08] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [Unbreak Now!, Open] Fix full disk encryption on BIOS systems.: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T36 [21:08] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [Medium, Open] Bring those swaps back: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T22 [21:11] To run a GUI app with pkexec, you have to write a xml file and place it in /usr/share/polkit-1/actions and a running polkit agent [21:11] Two meetings at once and I can't get to either atm :) [21:11] Everyone else go first please [21:14] I am still learning C++ and wrote some comment about the encryption problem [21:16] That‘s all from my side [21:16] feel free to fire at will ya'll :) [21:19] wxl: Who's Will? willcooke? [21:19] * wxl glowers at Eickmeyer [21:19] I'll see my way out. [21:20] good idea :) [21:20] I've really had nothing going on over here. Maybe after taxes are done I'll be able to breathe again. :) [21:21] I wish you luck my friend. [21:24] I'm looking at the software-properties-qt problem w kubuntu, unless anyone has a better solution I think Ill have to make 2 .desktops [21:24] That's on my side [21:25] is there some reason not to do the pkexec option? [21:28] @lynorian @teward001 @aptghetto ??? [21:29] I think aptghetto snuck his in there. [21:29] oh yeah ok sorry i missed that being mixed with the conversation about pkexec [21:31] I agree, if we can get pkexec to work right that seems best. [21:35] wxl what are your thoughts on LUKS on BIOS? [21:37] @kc2bez [I agree, if we can get pkexec to work right that seems best.], https://www.freedesktop.org/software/polkit/docs/0.105/pkexec.1.html [21:37] @kc2bez i guess i don't feel bad about an unencrypted /boot [21:38] Cala doesn't currently support that though. [21:39] I don't feel bad about it either. [21:41] oh, hm [21:41] and based on this conversation it's looking like they're not very supportive of luks1 being an option [21:43] wondering if it might might not be better to disable it rather than ship it broken [21:44] The manual option would still be there. [21:45] sigh [21:46] we could try to patch cala but that seems hacky. [21:48] maybe we really should build cryptsetup with the luks1 option globally [21:49] it SHOULD just make the default luks version 1 [21:52] @wxl [ maybe we really should build cryptsetup with the luks1 option globally], Wanna follow up with cyphermox? [21:53] https://sparkylinux.org/forum/index.php/topic,2354.0/prev_next,next.html [21:54] @tsimonq2 read above. we should probably hit it at the debian level. [21:54] sorry I mischedlued something else [21:56] although i note in there they say manjaro got around it by (as i hear the implication) using --type luks1 [21:59] We could maybe do the same. [22:07] @kc2bez i'm not sure where they make the change though? [22:09] I'm not 100 percent sure either but I would guess any call to `cryptsetup` would need it added. [22:10] right.. which i'd kind of expect calamares to do and i don't think hacking calamares is necessarily ideal [22:11] I don't disagree. [22:12] But Calamares didn't change cryptsetup so I can somewhat see their point too. [22:17] oooh i wonder if neon is doing anything about this @kc2bez [22:18] Good point. I can download that later. [22:25] KDE Neon was to see if it supports encryption? or to see how? If it's just to see if - I could download & try installing that if helpful. [22:26] guiverc: both really. we'd need to check and make sure they're running the same version of cryptsetup, grub, and calamares as we are, for one, if it works [22:27] I can do the first (see if; I can apt-cache policy ... then report back, the 'how' (if it works) is likely beyond me though.. [22:28] all good. it's a start and a good go/no-go [22:28] guiverc: please report back to @kc2bez [22:29] Thanks for checking into it guiverc [22:29] good idea guiverc [22:30] kc2bez: i assume testing-edition? but they also offer unstable & developer - which is best (I've not used kde neon) [22:30] https://neon.kde.org/download [22:30] the most bleeding edge one [22:30] ^^ [22:31] :) [22:31] er well hold on [22:31] i'd actually say try testing. [22:32] Testing makes sense. [22:40] soory for missing the meeting I did some more work on several applications on the manual [22:42] I added a screenshot for vlc prefrneces [22:43] did work on the prefrence dialogs of k3b and transmission [22:44] I added how to add watermarks to lowriter [22:44] went back and edited the install chapter for style [22:45] I worked on qpdfview and added stuff like how to open a copy of a current tab in a new tab which I have trouble beliving I did not have before such a useful feature [22:52] wow watermarks cool [22:58] The rtd theme is super nice. [22:59] wxl that extension is not rally well maintained at all [22:59] oh yeah it's beautiful [22:59] that's a bummer [22:59] but glad that theme is well run [23:07] I think I might need teward help with multiple versions [23:27] i was pinged [23:27] whatcha need? [23:27] multiple versions in the manual [23:27] go fix it [23:27] love you bye [23:27] i'm confused [23:27] i thought we had build problens [23:27] i thought we had build problems? [23:27] I SAID LOVE YOU BYE [23:28] :) [23:28] *pulls out a heavy plasma beam rifle* [23:28] lynorian didn't mention anything about build problems.... [23:28] wxl: well, the initial attempt to get the same utils that lynorian was using ended up not working out of the box on an 18.04 env [23:29] hm [23:29] so i have been working on a RTD deployment "dry run" to see how much specs a basic thing will take [23:29] because of ES [23:30] getting RTD itself to run is easy [23:30] getting it to build? Could be tricky (Docker inside LXD is ehhhh) [23:30] getting the searching working? ES is a pain [23:35] lynorian: send me a list of exactly what you need. [23:36] i'm still beating the crap out of the test instance, LXD and Docker do not play nice together.