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| rbalint | o/ | 15:00 |
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| * vorlon waves | 15:00 | |
| infinity | \o | 15:00 |
| sil2100 | o/ | 15:01 |
| vorlon | #startmeeting | 15:01 |
| meetingology | Meeting started Thu Apr 4 15:01:42 2019 UTC. The chair is vorlon. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology. | 15:01 |
| meetingology | Available commands: action commands idea info link nick | 15:01 |
| vorlon | [TOPIC] Lightning round | 15:01 |
| === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: Lightning round | ||
| vorlon | $ echo $(shuf -e vorlon bdmurray xnox tdaitx doko sil2100 rbalint infinity cyphermox mwhudson juliank waveform) | 15:01 |
| vorlon | rbalint bdmurray infinity tdaitx vorlon xnox waveform cyphermox doko mwhudson sil2100 juliank | 15:02 |
| xnox | rbalint, did you nominate vorlon last week? | 15:02 |
| juliank | may I move up? | 15:02 |
| bdmurray | juliank: I'll trade you | 15:02 |
| juliank | bdmurray: thanks | 15:03 |
| vorlon | rbalint: | 15:03 |
| rbalint | a moment | 15:04 |
| vorlon | juliank: you can go first then ;) | 15:04 |
| juliank | * opened merge request for ua apt integration, fixed up comments, and got it merged | 15:04 |
| juliank | * poked RT to allow aptdaemon in :) | 15:04 |
| juliank | * ran my version regression script | 15:04 |
| juliank | * uploaded update-notifier motd stuff to disco | 15:04 |
| juliank | * committed (regression) test case for apt/trusty regression to apt 1.8.y branch | 15:04 |
| juliank | * answering APT questions on IRC and email | 15:04 |
| juliank | * filed another gnome-shell bug and forwarded the last one to upstream | 15:04 |
| juliank | * fixed up the update-notifier upload to add missing build-dependency | 15:04 |
| juliank | * SRUed update-notifier ESM stuff to trusty | 15:04 |
| juliank | * Reviewing and merging apt merge requests | 15:04 |
| juliank | (done) | 15:04 |
| rbalint | (short week) | 15:05 |
| rbalint | * checked openjdk11 sru transition for changed conffiles and if u-u breaks | 15:05 |
| rbalint | * made lintian autpkgtes parallel | 15:05 |
| rbalint | * gardened branches in lp:~ubuntu-core-dev/ubuntu/+source/systemd , please use it for preparing new uploads | 15:05 |
| rbalint | * joined a few discussions | 15:05 |
| rbalint | * uploaded fix for LP: #1823125 | 15:05 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 1823125 in tomcat9 (Ubuntu Bionic) "tomcat9 fails to install in 18.04" [Undecided,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1823125 | 15:05 |
| rbalint | * added ubuntu-wsl to ubuntu-meta, seed change reviews are pending | 15:05 |
| infinity | rbalint: Can that lintian change be forwarded to Debian. I'd hate to carry a delta just for that. | 15:06 |
| bdmurray | juliank: Is your version regression script anywhere other people can use it? | 15:06 |
| rbalint | infinity, it is done and merged | 15:06 |
| infinity | rbalint: Ahh, excellent, it wasn't when I looked. | 15:06 |
| juliank | bdmurray: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/W2bd6pJ334/ | 15:06 |
| bdmurray | juliank: Does update-notifier need reviewing for trusty? | 15:06 |
| juliank | bdmurray: sil2100 approved it | 15:06 |
| bdmurray | okay | 15:06 |
| * sil2100 was fast in the morning | 15:07 | |
| sil2100 | But now I'm slow again | 15:07 |
| infinity | rbalint: Also, were you (done)? | 15:07 |
| * juliank heads out, started too early today and still recovering from hearing loss on Monday, so going for a walk | 15:07 | |
| rbalint | (done) | 15:08 |
| infinity | * last-minute merges (dpkg, lsb, etc) | 15:08 |
| infinity | * help investigating Qt/KDE s390x issues | 15:08 |
| infinity | * prepping (hopfully) final glibc upload for disco | 15:08 |
| infinity | * SO MANY QUEUE REVIEWS | 15:08 |
| infinity | (done) | 15:08 |
| infinity | PS: Won't be here for squad standup this afternoon; I have a doctor's appt. | 15:08 |
| vorlon | tdaitx: | 15:08 |
| tdaitx | * openjdk-11 bionic security transition | 15:08 |
| tdaitx | - reviewing update excuses adt failures | 15:08 |
| tdaitx | - investigating conffiles modification based on rbalint's u-u bb to bb-proposed work | 15:08 |
| tdaitx | - looked over libreoffice issues/fixes | 15:08 |
| tdaitx | * looking at pending merges | 15:08 |
| tdaitx | (done) | 15:08 |
| rbalint | infinity, the -j flag was dropped in lintian instead of my change | 15:08 |
| vorlon | * short week, was off all last week | 15:08 |
| vorlon | * end of cycle reviews (NEW, unapproved, etc) | 15:08 |
| vorlon | * SRU reviews (openssl into bionic-proposed) | 15:08 |
| vorlon | * proposed-migration: shepherding the various stuck things | 15:08 |
| vorlon | * code reviews for automating nvidia driver support in GKE | 15:08 |
| vorlon | * code review of tooling to manage all the different signed kernels now https://code.launchpad.net/~apw/ubuntu-archive-tools/copy-proposed-kernels-routing-updates/+merge/365420 | 15:08 |
| infinity | rbalint: Yeah, it should auto-j without it, as I read the code. Works for me. | 15:08 |
| vorlon | * discussions around final plan for OpenJDK11 SRU release | 15:08 |
| vorlon | (done) | 15:08 |
| vorlon | oh, also discussing removing the rails packages | 15:09 |
| vorlon | (double-done) | 15:09 |
| vorlon | xnox: | 15:09 |
| xnox | * subiquity, reviews/merges/releases/testing/ci-debug | 15:09 |
| xnox | * openssl-sru revisions & fixes / debugging wget-ssl | 15:09 |
| xnox | - openssl 1.1.1 is in bionic-proposed now \o/ | 15:09 |
| xnox | * done | 15:09 |
| rbalint | vorlon, (well done) :-) | 15:09 |
| waveform | * tested armhf+arm64 disco images on variety of pi platforms (3B, 3B+, 3A+, CM3, CM3+), need to test 2B images this week | 15:09 |
| waveform | * updated linux-firmware-raspi2 package to latest firmware release (in PPA; will need SRU for CM3+ boot on bionic) | 15:09 |
| waveform | * SRU verification for netplan.io, #1819014 | 15:09 |
| waveform | * worked on python3.7 fix on armhf, #1821869 | 15:09 |
| waveform | * resolved reviews of pi "amazing" spec | 15:09 |
| waveform | * finished pi first boot spec, currently in review | 15:09 |
| waveform | * investigating zfs on pi issue, #1822797 | 15:09 |
| waveform | * verifying pi-bluetooth configuration on classic | 15:09 |
| waveform | * learning console-conf ... for my sins | 15:09 |
| waveform | (done) | 15:09 |
| cyphermox | - netplan SRU verifications | 15:10 |
| cyphermox | - grub2 SRU verifications | 15:10 |
| cyphermox | - fixed missing grub-check-sig run in trusty's grub2 SRU (grub2-signed/1.34.20) | 15:10 |
| cyphermox | - investigating how I can setup an openstack lab for more better netplan testing | 15:10 |
| cyphermox | - revised https://code.launchpad.net/~cyphermox/debian-cd/nomodeset/+merge/364344 | 15:10 |
| cyphermox | - ubiquity slideshow update | 15:10 |
| cyphermox | - looking at ubiquity bugs | 15:10 |
| cyphermox | - sponsored livecd-rootfs/2.575 for r.c.j; fix duplicate snap listings in manifest | 15:10 |
| cyphermox | - reran cross-toolchain-base-mipsen tests a few times, still tracking down i386 failures | 15:10 |
| cyphermox | (medium rare done?) | 15:10 |
| doko | tdaitx: lo is now addressed | 15:10 |
| doko | - currently at Linaro Connect | 15:10 |
| doko | - GCC updates for bionic and cosmic | 15:10 |
| doko | - openjdk 11 11.0.3+5 | 15:10 |
| doko | - pestered^W helped waveform to setup arm* chroots | 15:10 |
| doko | - python3.x uploads to address bus error (fixed by waveform) | 15:10 |
| doko | (done) | 15:10 |
| waveform | :) | 15:11 |
| sil2100 | - Sick most last week and on Monday-ish + holidays last week, doctor appointments | 15:11 |
| sil2100 | - SRU reviews and releases | 15:11 |
| cyphermox | waveform: thanks for the sru verif btw :) | 15:11 |
| sil2100 | - Releasing of many kernels, new kernel cycle starting | 15:11 |
| sil2100 | - core18: | 15:11 |
| sil2100 | * Preparing the PR for date-based version numbers | 15:11 |
| sil2100 | * Debugging the date-based version change, poking with m_vo + finally getting help from Sergio - now done! | 15:11 |
| sil2100 | * Lots of PR reviews, corrections and merges | 15:11 |
| sil2100 | * Experimenting with snap prepare-image --classic | 15:11 |
| sil2100 | * Some progress on the core18 promoter scripting | 15:11 |
| sil2100 | - Review and merge of the more-strict-parser PR to ubuntu-image | 15:11 |
| sil2100 | - Reviewing the Raspi Pi specs (times two!) | 15:11 |
| sil2100 | - Some pi discussions here and there | 15:11 |
| sil2100 | - Fixing the core18 auto-snap-builder to properly notice packages in the additional PPAs | 15:11 |
| sil2100 | - Helping out with the systemd SRU autopkgtest regressions to make the package releasable today | 15:11 |
| sil2100 | - FFe and UIFe reviews | 15:11 |
| sil2100 | (good done) | 15:11 |
| tdaitx | doko: yeah, when I was looking at the issue I noticed you had uploaded the fix for it | 15:12 |
| bdmurray | searched for duplicates of LP: #1811694 - found a couple | 15:12 |
| bdmurray | investigation into apport crash LP: #1820132 - missing executable | 15:12 |
| bdmurray | wrote an apport test case for add_gdb_info about a missing executable | 15:12 |
| bdmurray | uploaded apport to disco with fixes for LP: #1809247, LP: #1396160 and the above bug | 15:12 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 1811694 in aptdaemon (Ubuntu Disco) "/usr/sbin/aptd:RuntimeError:_inline_callbacks:get_uid_from_dbus_name:return_value:_inline_callbacks:_check_simulated:_inline_callbacks" [High,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1811694 | 15:12 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 1820132 in apport (Ubuntu Disco) "/usr/share/apport/whoopsie-upload-all:AssertionError:/usr/share/apport/whoopsie-upload-all@162:collect_info:process_report:add_gdb_info:gdb_command" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1820132 | 15:12 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 1809247 in apport (Ubuntu Disco) "SetReportCrashes to true dbus call failed" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1809247 | 15:12 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 1396160 in apport (Ubuntu Disco) "/usr/share/apport/recoverable_problem:PermissionError:/usr/share/apport/recoverable_problem@75:main:add_proc_info" [Medium,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1396160 | 15:12 |
| bdmurray | also modified apport's relationship with policykit in part b/c of LP: #1821415 | 15:12 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 1821415 in policykit-1 (Ubuntu) "pkexec fails in a non-graphical environment" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1821415 | 15:12 |
| bdmurray | research into LP: #1822886, testing of possible upgrade failure scenarios | 15:12 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 1822886 in ubuntu-release-upgrader (Ubuntu) "universe missing after bionic->cosmic do-release-upgrade" [Critical,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1822886 | 15:12 |
| bdmurray | worked on a better method for u-r-u to check for releases and archive has | 15:12 |
| bdmurray | approved netplan.io SRU exception | 15:12 |
| bdmurray | review of juliank's update-notifier esm changes | 15:12 |
| bdmurray | well done | 15:12 |
| bdmurray | vorlon: I think that's everyone | 15:14 |
| vorlon | great | 15:14 |
| vorlon | any questions? | 15:14 |
| vorlon | #topic Release incoming bugs (disco) | 15:15 |
| === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: Release incoming bugs (disco) | ||
| vorlon | #link http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-dd-incoming-bug-tasks.html#foundations-bugs | 15:15 |
| vorlon | bdmurray: ? | 15:15 |
| bdmurray | bug 1821677 was tagged by doko and but it was on 4/1 | 15:15 |
| ubottu | bug 1821677 in glibc (Ubuntu) "dl_open segment fault in ubuntu18.10 glibc2.28" [High,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1821677 | 15:15 |
| vorlon | I see there's a new bug reporting a segfault in a glic we're not shipping | 15:15 |
| infinity | Hrm? | 15:16 |
| doko | I got a ping from upstream about that, didn't look at that in detail | 15:16 |
| vorlon | from upstream of what? | 15:16 |
| doko | glibc | 15:16 |
| doko | glibc/intel | 15:16 |
| infinity | "not shipping"? | 15:16 |
| xnox | desktop team? | 15:16 |
| vorlon | infinity: the bug report says 2.28 | 15:16 |
| infinity | Which is in cosmic. | 15:17 |
| vorlon | but it's been marked dd-incoming | 15:17 |
| vorlon | is it also reproducible in disco? | 15:17 |
| infinity | That would be doko. | 15:17 |
| infinity | I'll have a look at that today/tomorrow (doctor/etc premitting today) before I do the disco upload. | 15:18 |
| vorlon | infinity: so you think we should commit to fixing it in disco? | 15:18 |
| vorlon | (I can't reproduce it here on either cosmic or disco) | 15:18 |
| infinity | Can't reproduce with their test case? | 15:19 |
| infinity | Well, that might make it harder. :P | 15:19 |
| infinity | I was committing to look, not to fix if I can't repro. | 15:19 |
| vorlon | infinity: I'm not using their so, which I don't see attached | 15:19 |
| vorlon | maybe it's in this tarball | 15:19 |
| vorlon | anyway, I guess we can tentatively commit and uncommit later | 15:19 |
| * infinity nods. | 15:19 | |
| vorlon | ok, targeting | 15:20 |
| vorlon | bdmurray: next? | 15:20 |
| infinity | make: *** [Makefile:10: runtest] Segmentation fault (core dumped) | 15:20 |
| infinity | Seems to repro here. | 15:20 |
| vorlon | ok | 15:20 |
| bdmurray | bug 1820676 | 15:20 |
| ubottu | bug 1820676 in ubiquity (Ubuntu) "Something has gone seriously wrong: import_mok_state0 failed" [Undecided,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1820676 | 15:20 |
| vorlon | infinity: (I was trying to repro from the bug description, not the attached tarall) | 15:21 |
| vorlon | b | 15:21 |
| infinity | Might have been a mismerge of that patch, or just needs more ifdef arm. | 15:21 |
| doko | I can confirm this one, renaming the exe helped | 15:22 |
| vorlon | cyphermox: ^^ is that not fixed in the disco dailies? | 15:22 |
| vorlon | related to missing mmx64 | 15:22 |
| cyphermox | it was fixed not long ago | 15:22 |
| vorlon | was it fixed after 3/18? :) | 15:22 |
| cyphermox | checking | 15:22 |
| infinity | Would have been right around then. | 15:23 |
| vorlon | bdmurray: let us follow up on that, it's probably fixed | 15:23 |
| cyphermox | 3/20 | 15:23 |
| infinity | Cause the images weren't getting the new d-i bits due to a hung build on nusakan. | 15:23 |
| cyphermox | spot checking on cdimage.u.c shows that ubuntu-mate and ubuntu dailies have the file | 15:25 |
| infinity | Yeah, they all should now. | 15:25 |
| bdmurray | that's all I noticed in dd-incoming | 15:25 |
| cyphermox | yup | 15:25 |
| vorlon | yeah I've followed up on the bug | 15:25 |
| vorlon | I'm not bothering to target to disco because if there is a bug, it's probably not in a package in the archive | 15:26 |
| vorlon | anyway I will follow through | 15:26 |
| vorlon | bdmurray: what aout LP: #1815599 and LP: #1812688 that are on the report? | 15:26 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 1815599 in Ubuntu on IBM z Systems "multipath shows '#:#:#:#' for iscsi device after error injection" [Medium,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1815599 | 15:26 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 1812688 in automake-1.16 (Ubuntu) "self-check-report.sh fails on armhf/disco, was set to skip as an ubuntu delta without explanation" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1812688 | 15:26 |
| bdmurray | the multipath one is incomplete, has it been updated? | 15:27 |
| vorlon | xnox nominated the first | 15:27 |
| vorlon | no | 15:27 |
| vorlon | so I guess we can ignore | 15:27 |
| vorlon | the other one, I tried to close and seb128 called me on it because I didn't read bdmurray's previous comment right | 15:27 |
| xnox | vorlon, the multipath one was handindled by cpaelzer a bit | 15:27 |
| vorlon | bdmurray: I think we should decline LP: #1812688, if we were willing to override the test to ignore the failure, it must not be critical enough to block a release | 15:28 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 1812688 in automake-1.16 (Ubuntu) "self-check-report.sh fails on armhf/disco, was set to skip as an ubuntu delta without explanation" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1812688 | 15:28 |
| bdmurray | vorlon: okay | 15:29 |
| vorlon | done | 15:29 |
| vorlon | #topic Team proposed-migration report | 15:29 |
| === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: Team proposed-migration report | ||
| vorlon | #link http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/proposed-migration/update_excuses_by_team.html#foundations-bugs | 15:29 |
| bdmurray | I'm looking at apport | 15:30 |
| vorlon | xnox: fuse-zip status? | 15:30 |
| doko | g inggs pinged several times about scipy | 15:30 |
| vorlon | I see you merged a new upstream version of fuse-zip, so that it can now fail its tests consistently on all archs | 15:30 |
| infinity | vorlon, doko: Should cross-toolchain-base-whatever be addded to huge packages in autopkgtest, or should the massively massive (with hugeness) rebuild test maybe be pared down? | 15:31 |
| vorlon | doko: I know he pinged me while I was on vacation and not in a position to do anything with it. If someone has a clear rationale for ignoring that test failure, MPs welcome | 15:31 |
| xnox | vorlon, didn't get to it, but also not critical to migrate as far as i remember. yes which is an "improvement" =) my next trick was going to be to cherrypick fuse patch from upstream, or comment out / ignore the test that doesn't do the right clean up. | 15:31 |
| xnox | vorlon, skipping one test, makes it all pass locally. | 15:31 |
| cyphermox | infinity: +1, I think? | 15:31 |
| xnox | (the test that tries to setup invalid/broken state, and assert on it) | 15:32 |
| cyphermox | cross-toolchain-base-mipsen? | 15:32 |
| doko | infinity: it's building exactly *one* cross toolchain. you could reduce the load further by not building the multilibs | 15:32 |
| xnox | not sure what i should do about fuse-zip. horum. | 15:32 |
| * xnox tries to trow things into bileto ppa, to make it stick. | 15:32 | |
| doko | but vorlon wanted to look why it takes so much longer in some builds | 15:32 |
| vorlon | xnox: "not critical to migrate" - someone in this channel uplodaed fuse with the intent that it release, and you committed to resolve this | 15:32 |
| doko | xnox: should we remove fuse & fuse-zip from -proposed? | 15:33 |
| vorlon | xnox: so if you're following up, all good | 15:33 |
| xnox | vorlon, yes, and when i questioned why fuse was synced post debian import freeze no reply followed. doko - do you recall why we need/want new fuse? | 15:33 |
| xnox | vorlon, but kind of can kicking, removing fuse now from -proposed will just come back in a couple of weeks. | 15:33 |
| doko | I forgot, it was something to fulfill b-d's probably | 15:34 |
| xnox | and well needs to be folved now, or later. | 15:34 |
| xnox | doko, ah, and now they are built, we don't need it anymore, right ?! =)))))))) har har | 15:34 |
| vorlon | we wouldn't know, since we can't launch new rebuild tests | 15:34 |
| xnox | =) | 15:34 |
| gaughen | vorlon, lies. ;-) | 15:35 |
| vorlon | heh | 15:35 |
| gaughen | so what are we doing with fuse? | 15:37 |
| gaughen | removing it? | 15:37 |
| infinity | Removing it is pointless. | 15:37 |
| gaughen | so what are we doing with fuse? | 15:37 |
| vorlon | infinity, doko: cross-toolchain-base: the issue was the variance in build times, which doko pointed to as an indicator of a problem in the autopkgtest infra; but I don't think giving it a bigger testbed prevents us from still doing that analysis | 15:38 |
| vorlon | gaughen: xnox has a list of next steps for getting it migratable | 15:38 |
| gaughen | k | 15:38 |
| vorlon | and sphinx is still there | 15:38 |
| xnox | vorlon, que? | 15:38 |
| xnox | is it only me that gets very choppy audio | 15:40 |
| xnox | vorlon, i can't hear you at all... | 15:40 |
| waveform | xnox, audio's fine for me | 15:41 |
| vorlon | xnox: sphinx, my recollection is that you were going to follow up on #ubuntu-release to sort out what to do about sphinx vs webkit2gtk, and I don't think that happened | 15:42 |
| xnox | vorlon, we did talk about it with the desktop team, but i can't remember if we conclude something or not. | 15:43 |
| vorlon | xnox: I didn't see a conclusion and it didn't get fixed in the archive :) | 15:49 |
| vorlon | xnox: shall we try again to take this to #ubuntu-release after this meeting? ;) | 15:49 |
| xnox | hm. | 15:49 |
| vorlon | [TOPIC] AOB | 15:52 |
| === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: AOB | ||
| rbalint | i'd like to have LP: #1821924 rc | 15:54 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 1821924 in lxd (Ubuntu) "LXD Deb->snap transition fails in WSL due to snap command not working (yet)" [Low,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1821924 | 15:54 |
| rbalint | because it breaks do-release-upgrade which is ours | 15:54 |
| rbalint | lxd is not maintained by our team, but release team could weigh in | 15:55 |
| bdmurray | is rc a verb there? | 15:55 |
| rbalint | release critical | 15:55 |
| infinity | release criticalified | 15:55 |
| bdmurray | rc'ed then | 15:55 |
| rbalint | ok :-) | 15:56 |
| infinity | Inappropriate apostrophe alert. | 15:56 |
| rbalint | any comment on the actual bug? | 15:57 |
| vorlon | so, since snaps don't work under wsl, should the lxd deb be removed as part of the upgrade? | 16:01 |
| bdmurray | don't we do that with gnome-calculator and other desktop packages? | 16:03 |
| xnox | vorlon, i think that's valid, at least for now. at the moment the new .deb fails to configure, blocking upgrade. | 16:03 |
| xnox | vorlon, and it may happen on non-wsl systems too. | 16:03 |
| xnox | vorlon, imho the error code path on snapd-less systems when doing do-release-upgrade is currently very bad. | 16:04 |
| vorlon | it sounds like this is something we need to take offline | 16:04 |
| vorlon | #endmeeting | 16:04 |
| === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: Ubuntu Meeting Grounds: Please leave swords by the door | Calendar/Scheduled meetings: http://fridge.ubuntu.com/calendars | Logs: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MeetingLogs | Meetingology documentation: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology | <wxl> be nice | ||
| meetingology | Meeting ended Thu Apr 4 16:04:59 2019 UTC. | 16:04 |
| meetingology | Minutes: http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-meeting/2019/ubuntu-meeting.2019-04-04-15.01.moin.txt | 16:04 |
| vorlon | thanks, all | 16:05 |
| sil2100 | vorlon: thanks o/ | 16:05 |
| rbalint | o/ | 16:16 |
| === JanC is now known as Guest19220 | ||
| === JanC_ is now known as JanC | ||
| tdaitx | vorlon: yes, it is a new blocker, rbalint set it as In Progress but it is unassigned, not sure if he is handling that | 17:50 |
| tdaitx | his status included "uploaded fix for LP: #1823125" | 17:50 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 1823125 in tomcat9 (Ubuntu Bionic) "tomcat9 fails to install in 18.04" [Undecided,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1823125 | 17:50 |
| Kilos | o/ | 19:46 |
| * bashfulrobot leaving the sword at the door, but looking for coffee. | 19:57 | |
| === Kilos- is now known as Kilos | ||
| diddledan | yeah, I'm here | 20:18 |
| Kilos | vlijm ping | 20:29 |
| vlijm | Hey guys! | 20:33 |
| diddledan | hello hello | 20:33 |
| Kilos | hi vlijm | 20:33 |
| bashfulrobot | heyo vlijm ! | 20:33 |
| vlijm | I'm in :) | 20:33 |
| wxl | ok we all ready to go? | 20:33 |
| bashfulrobot | I'm good | 20:33 |
| diddledan | yup | 20:33 |
| vlijm | I am! | 20:33 |
| wxl | ok | 20:34 |
| wxl | #startmeeting Ubuntu Membership Board 20:00 | 20:34 |
| meetingology | Meeting started Thu Apr 4 20:34:33 2019 UTC. The chair is wxl. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology. | 20:34 |
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| wxl | #meetingtopic Jacob Vlijm | 20:34 |
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| wxl | hm that's weird | 20:35 |
| bashfulrobot | ? | 20:35 |
| wxl | #meetingtopic Ubuntu Membership Board 20:00 | 20:35 |
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| wxl | #topic Jacob Vlijm | 20:35 |
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| wxl | there | 20:35 |
| wxl | that's right | 20:35 |
| wxl | ok | 20:35 |
| wxl | Hi Jacob :) | 20:35 |
| diddledan | we know what we're doing :-) | 20:36 |
| vlijm | Hi, and thanks fo meeting me | 20:36 |
| bashfulrobot | Trust us. | 20:36 |
| vlijm | I do :) | 20:36 |
| wxl | i mean there are some things i know, at least | 20:36 |
| Kilos | brave man | 20:36 |
| wxl | Anyways, please introduce yourself, give us your wiki & Launchpad pages and tell us anything you might feel relevant. | 20:36 |
| vlijm | her we go: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/vlijm | 20:37 |
| vlijm | Ubuntu user since 2011 (I believe), currently member of the Ubuntu Budgie core team | 20:38 |
| vlijm | Ask Ubuntu active user | 20:38 |
| vlijm | What can I say? | 20:39 |
| vlijm | wrote quite a lot of stuff for Unity (mostly indicators) | 20:39 |
| vlijm | Now writing stuff for Ubuntu Budgie etc. | 20:39 |
| vlijm | Oh, wait you asked for Launchpad, that's ~vlijm | 20:40 |
| * bashfulrobot posts easy link - https://launchpad.net/~vlijm | 20:40 | |
| wxl | Great! | 20:41 |
| wxl | Anyone here want to give kudos and support of Jacob? | 20:42 |
| bashfulrobot | Is it appropriate if I left a testimonial? | 20:42 |
| wxl | Sure, doesn't hurt :) | 20:42 |
| diddledan | yes, popey did that for me when I joined and he was on the board at that time :-p | 20:42 |
| bashfulrobot | Well in that case.... | 20:42 |
| * popey arrives | 20:43 | |
| Kilos | hi popey | 20:44 |
| diddledan | damn. when you speak ill of the devil | 20:44 |
| * wxl images popey swooping in like Batman | 20:44 | |
| diddledan | wxl: in his underwear? or was that Superman? | 20:44 |
| wxl | diddledan: I'm not sure whether or not popey has Batman underwear | 20:44 |
| diddledan | ... must be professional. :-p | 20:45 |
| popey | I just dropped by to say "holy cow" at the amount of work Jacob does on askubuntu. It's very impressive. | 20:45 |
| fossfreedom | \o ... happy to endorse Jacob - as project lead of UB have watched with interest how Jacob has made UB what it is today. Equally in AU land - active and dynamic and eveyone just loves his well thought out contributions. Credit to Ubuntu | 20:45 |
| vlijm | :) thanks a lot! | 20:45 |
| bashfulrobot | Jacob (when he joined UB) came in mostly writing applets in Python. When we have a need to move these over to Vala - it did not even phase him even though one can argue over the merits of each language. We all have our fav tools. He dove right in. Continues to drive new features into the ecosystem that people outside of Ubuntu take advantage of. Does his best to support there as well. It is not uncommon for us to see Majaro users | 20:46 |
| bashfulrobot | in our forums who use some of the applets he has written. He is very active on a consistent basis in our team channels, Ask Ubuntu, our Discourse forum, etc. He spends the time. | 20:46 |
| vlijm | Thing is, always difficult to tell about oneself I guess, so please fire away | 20:46 |
| wxl | Membership Board: any questions for Jacob? | 20:47 |
| Kilos | nope i am happy | 20:47 |
| diddledan | I'm good :-) | 20:47 |
| bashfulrobot | I'm good | 20:47 |
| bashfulrobot | My opinion is pretty clear above. :-) | 20:47 |
| wxl | Ok then I guess it's voting time.. | 20:48 |
| vlijm | Wow, that's quick | 20:48 |
| wxl | #vote membership of Jacob Vlijm | 20:48 |
| meetingology | Please vote on: membership of Jacob Vlijm | 20:48 |
| meetingology | Public votes can be registered by saying +1, +0 or -1 in channel, (for private voting, private message me with 'vote +1/-1/+0 #channelname) | 20:48 |
| bashfulrobot | +1 | 20:48 |
| meetingology | +1 received from bashfulrobot | 20:48 |
| wxl | +1 amazing work! keep it up! | 20:48 |
| meetingology | +1 amazing work! keep it up! received from wxl | 20:48 |
| Kilos | +1 keep up the great work and welcome onboard | 20:48 |
| meetingology | +1 keep up the great work and welcome onboard received from Kilos | 20:48 |
| diddledan | +1 really thorough wiki page. lots of amazing endorsements. well done. Excellent work! | 20:49 |
| meetingology | +1 really thorough wiki page. lots of amazing endorsements. well done. Excellent work! received from diddledan | 20:49 |
| vlijm | Wow!! You guys make me happy | 20:49 |
| Kilos | happy people work better | 20:49 |
| diddledan | so get to work! | 20:50 |
| diddledan | :-p | 20:50 |
| bashfulrobot | ha ha | 20:50 |
| Kilos | lol | 20:50 |
| wxl | oh i guess i should have done votes required | 20:50 |
| wxl | wonder if this will break now | 20:50 |
| vlijm | Hehe. | 20:50 |
| wxl | #votesrequired +3 | 20:51 |
| meetingology | votes now need 3 to be passed | 20:51 |
| * bashfulrobot the suspense.... | 20:51 | |
| wxl | #endvote | 20:51 |
| meetingology | Voting ended on: membership of Jacob Vlijm | 20:51 |
| meetingology | Votes for:4 Votes against:0 Abstentions:0 | 20:51 |
| meetingology | Motion carried | 20:51 |
| wxl | there we go | 20:51 |
| diddledan | yey | 20:51 |
| vlijm | Yay!! | 20:51 |
| fossfreedom | congrats vlijm - well deserved | 20:51 |
| bashfulrobot | Welcome! | 20:51 |
| wxl | congrats, vlijm ! | 20:51 |
| Kilos | well done | 20:51 |
| diddledan | well done vlijm :-) congratulations | 20:51 |
| vlijm | Thanks so much :) | 20:51 |
| * bashfulrobot off to my next meeting (in the day job). | 20:52 | |
| Kilos | lol | 20:52 |
| Kilos | keep smiling | 20:52 |
| diddledan | shall we #endmeeting? | 20:52 |
| wxl | oh oops yes | 20:52 |
| vlijm | Thanks guys, see you later I guess | 20:52 |
| wxl | i was adding him to members | 20:53 |
| wxl | #endmeeting | 20:53 |
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| meetingology | Meeting ended Thu Apr 4 20:53:08 2019 UTC. | 20:53 |
| meetingology | Minutes: http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-meeting/2019/ubuntu-meeting.2019-04-04-20.34.moin.txt | 20:53 |
| diddledan | yey | 20:53 |
| diddledan | thanks for chairing, wxl | 20:53 |
| Kilos | ty wxl | 20:53 |
| wxl | ok you're a member vlijm :) | 20:53 |
| vlijm | Greatgreat. | 20:54 |
| wxl | vlijm: don't froget to pick up your perks https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Membership#The_Perks .. some of those things aren't automagic | 20:54 |
| Kilos | guiver_d you here? | 21:02 |
| guiver_d | yep | 21:03 |
| guiver_d | Kilos: yes | 21:04 |
| Kilos | sorry just checking the board | 21:04 |
| Kilos | if all are available we can do you now | 21:06 |
| guiver_d | Yep. just got a fresh tea. | 21:06 |
| === guiver_d is now known as guiverc | ||
| Wild_Man | Hello guiverc | 21:08 |
| guiverc | Howdy Wild_Man | 21:08 |
| wxl | ok here we go again | 21:08 |
| diddledan | this is fun :-p | 21:09 |
| wxl | #startmeeting Ubuntu Membership Board @2100 | 21:09 |
| meetingology | Meeting started Thu Apr 4 21:09:08 2019 UTC. The chair is wxl. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology. | 21:09 |
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| wxl | #topic Chris Guiver | 21:09 |
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| wxl | Hello and welcome to the Ubuntu Membership Review Board meeting! The wiki page for the Review Boards are available here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Membership/Boards | 21:10 |
| wxl | We will attempt to get through all of the applicants that have added themselves to that list before today's meeting. If we are unable to make it through the entire list due to time constraints, then at the next meeting we will pick up where we left off. | 21:10 |
| wxl | The format for the meeting is as follows: We will go through the list of applicants one by one, by date of application (FIFO). | 21:10 |
| wxl | Each applicant should introduce themselves (1-5 sentences) and provide links to their Ubuntu Wiki page. After the introduction the members of the Membership Review Board will review the pages and, if needed, ask the applicant further questions. | 21:10 |
| wxl | During this time it is encouraged for other members of the community to show their support for the applicant. Do not be alarmed if the members of the Membership Review Board are quiet during this time; they are most likely reading wiki/launchpad/forum/other pages and deciding how they are going to vote. | 21:10 |
| wxl | When the board is ready to vote, they will publicly vote in the channel with either +1, 0, or -1 (for membership, abstain, and against membership, respectively). If the majority of the voting board members vote +1, then the applicant is now an official Ubuntu member! (feel free congratulate them!) | 21:10 |
| wxl | Now, with any further ado, lets get started with the first applicant... | 21:10 |
| diddledan | oh you found the script :-) | 21:10 |
| wxl | yep. always improving :) | 21:10 |
| wxl | That said, Chris, fire away! | 21:11 |
| guiverc | wiki: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/guiverc | 21:11 |
| guiverc | Hi, my name is Chris, first involved with Ubuntu with UWN (issue #425, July 2015) with 125 now contribs. I'm a medically retired coder (s390/z-series now) with pain issues, so at times concentration is lacking.. | 21:13 |
| wxl | Thanks for the intro, Chris! | 21:14 |
| wxl | Is anyone here in support of Chris? | 21:14 |
| guiverc | I haven't (& wouldn't) asked anyone - if that's were you're heading wxl | 21:16 |
| Kilos | wxl you know Chris? | 21:16 |
| wxl | Ok, well just checking. | 21:16 |
| wxl | Kilos: yeah Chris has long been a heavy QA tester. Like across the entire gamut of flavors. He's also very good at writing and testing and updating bugs. It's hard not to see his name mentioned on Ask Ubuntu. More recently, he's been helping with Lubuntu and has been an utter Godsend. He's an all around great guy :) | 21:18 |
| Wild_Man | Chris does outstanding work for the UWN and has for several years now | 21:18 |
| Kilos | ty wxl that alone eases my mind | 21:19 |
| Wild_Man | Chris also publishes to the fridge | 21:20 |
| wxl | Any questions for Chris or should we go ahead and vote? | 21:21 |
| Kilos | i am ready to vote | 21:21 |
| diddledan | I think I'm good | 21:21 |
| Wild_Man | Ready | 21:21 |
| wxl | #vote Chris Guiver membership | 21:22 |
| meetingology | Please vote on: Chris Guiver membership | 21:22 |
| meetingology | Public votes can be registered by saying +1, +0 or -1 in channel, (for private voting, private message me with 'vote +1/-1/+0 #channelname) | 21:22 |
| wxl | #votesrequired +3 | 21:22 |
| meetingology | votes now need 3 to be passed | 21:22 |
| Kilos | +1 keep it up | 21:22 |
| meetingology | +1 keep it up received from Kilos | 21:22 |
| Wild_Man | +1 | 21:22 |
| meetingology | +1 received from Wild_Man | 21:22 |
| wxl | +1 you do amazing work across the entire spectrum of Ubuntu and I thank you for it! | 21:22 |
| meetingology | +1 you do amazing work across the entire spectrum of Ubuntu and I thank you for it! received from wxl | 21:22 |
| diddledan | +1 I would have liked to have seen a testimonial or two on your wiki page, but from the remaining evidence I am still happy to give you a thumbs up | 21:23 |
| meetingology | +1 I would have liked to have seen a testimonial or two on your wiki page, but from the remaining evidence I am still happy to give you a thumbs up received from diddledan | 21:23 |
| wxl | #endvote | 21:23 |
| meetingology | Voting ended on: Chris Guiver membership | 21:23 |
| meetingology | Votes for:4 Votes against:0 Abstentions:0 | 21:23 |
| meetingology | Motion carried | 21:23 |
| wxl | Congrats and welcome to the family, officially, guiverc :) | 21:23 |
| diddledan | congratulations, guiverc | 21:23 |
| Kilos | congrats guiverc | 21:23 |
| Wild_Man | Congratulations guiverc | 21:23 |
| guiverc | Thanks all | 21:24 |
| Wild_Man | Thank You! | 21:24 |
| wxl | guiverc: don't forget to pick up your perks :) https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Membership#The_Perks | 21:24 |
| Kilos | ty again wxl and board members | 21:24 |
| wxl | thanks all | 21:25 |
| wxl | #endmeeting | 21:25 |
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| meetingology | Meeting ended Thu Apr 4 21:25:37 2019 UTC. | 21:25 |
| meetingology | Minutes: http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-meeting/2019/ubuntu-meeting.2019-04-04-21.09.moin.txt | 21:25 |
| wxl | mIk3_08: you ready for the membership meeting? | 21:56 |
| Wild_Man | Hello mIk3_08 and welcome! | 21:57 |
| Kilos | hi mIk3_08 | 21:59 |
| Wild_Man | mIk3_08, are you ready? | 22:03 |
| Wild_Man | Hello mIk3_08, the 22:00 meeting has been canceled since you have not replied to our hello's | 22:19 |
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