[00:00] <nevada1> I'm getting a lot of PCIe Bus Errors in dmesg. And before each one, AER: Corrected error received. Any ideas about that stuff?
[00:03] <leftyfb> nevada1: if it's this (you lack the entire line), then you can try the nomsi line https://askubuntu.com/questions/771899/pcie-bus-error-severity-corrected
[00:04] <p0wder> nvm leftyfb, i figured it out
[00:05] <p0wder> sorry for pm ing you
[00:09] <MrCelery> ohhhhhh I totally lost my mind! I had the wrong subfolder name for the creds file
[00:09] <nevada1> leftyfb, thanks, do you perhaps have any insights on why that happens?
[00:09] <mtl> I've tried playing with channel bonding.. is it possible to combine a DSL connection via ethernet and a USB modem to get greater speed? :b
[00:09] <MrCelery> I think I just needed someone to force me to stare at my fstab line for 5 minutes straight. thanks!
[00:10] <leftyfb> nevada1: nope. It worked on mine though
[00:10] <JimBuntu> mtl, yes, not super easy without the right equipment or software
[00:11] <mtl> what software do I need?
[00:16] <JimBuntu> mtl, I have never went a simple software method... so I could not answer... hardware wise though... it's kinda simple... multi-WAN support on a router will suffice
[00:17] <mtl> ok
[00:17] <mtl> I found something called dispatch-proxy
[00:17] <JimBuntu> mtl, well, generally suffice... I suppose some may only offer fallback support
[00:18] <JimBuntu> Once upon a time, this was popular for using multiple dial-up modems. mtl
[00:33] <MrCelery> So apparently my error is actually coming from the cifs argument sec=ntlm
[00:33] <MrCelery> when i take this out of the fstab line, the mount works
[00:34] <MrCelery> this isn;t good for security though, so i need to find another solution
[00:36] <MrCelery> sec=ntlmv2 works perfectly... someone should really update the documentation https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently
[00:50] <Brainiack> whats the diffrence between ubuntu and xubuntu
[00:51] <NorthwestVegan> xubuntu uses xfce so its more lightweight
[00:51] <tomreyn> Brainiack: ubuntu comes with whatever desktop environment was picked as default one for this release, and xubuntu is based on xfce.
[00:51] <Brainiack> what is xfce which is better or is it a preference
[00:52] <NorthwestVegan> i prefer xfce over gnome or kde
[00:52] <Brainiack> also anyone ever use SElinux with ubuntu i tried installing it and it killed my boot had to uninstall it
[00:52] <Bashing-om> Brainiack: ^^ and installed DE apps are different.
[00:52] <tomreyn> ubuntu 18.04 is based on gnome3, gnome-shell, Xorg
[00:53] <tomreyn> Brainiack: ubuntu uses apparmor rather than SELinux. It is probably possible to make SELinux work on Ubuntu, too, but it would take a major effort.
[00:54] <tomreyn> There are several reasons why one might actually prefer Apparmor over SELinux, though.
[00:56] <MrCelery> I ended up really loving Unity a year before they got rid of it
[00:56] <JimBuntu> MrCelery, me too... even sooner :( oh well, soon we will likely have to adapt. That's fine with me.
[00:57] <tomreyn> unity still exists, just is not the default anymore.
[00:57] <Bashing-om> MrCelery: Unity is still around :) community maintained .
[00:58] <MrCelery> ^^ I am glad they kept it around but for now i am on cinnamon.
[01:05] <Deihmos> anyone know how you exclude kernel updates from unattended updates
[01:08] <xamithan> I think you can do apt-mark hold <package>
[01:08] <MrCelery> I am trying to automount a 2 network drives using samba, fstab and cifs
[01:08] <xamithan> Then just undo it when you want to allow the kernels again
[01:09] <MrCelery> and they wont mount on bootup... this is going to be a long night
[01:11] <MrCelery> they mount when i do "sudo mount -a"
[01:11] <MrCelery> weird
[01:12] <xamithan> Are they just not waiting on the network to start?
[01:13] <MrCelery> i think the computer is not connecting to the network before it runs that file. is there any way to get it to connect before running those lines in fstab?
[01:13] <xamithan> There is a mount option
[01:13] <xamithan> _netdev ?
[01:21] <tomreyn> if _netdev doesn't work, use x-systemd.automount
[01:21] <MrCelery> Joo48Arm300
[01:21] <MrCelery> thats the network drive
[01:21] <MrCelery> so do i need to put that in the fstab line... if so where?
[01:22] <MrCelery> or i mean the _netdev argument
[01:22] <xamithan> in the mount options
[01:22] <xamithan> like where you put the user, credentials, etc
[01:22] <xamithan> or defaults even
[01:23] <MrCelery> so far i have _netdev //IP/Joo48ARM /media/drive1 credentials=/home/smbcredsfile,iocharset=utf8,sec=ntlm 0 0
[01:23] <xamithan> credentials=/home/smbcredsfile,iocharset=utf8,sec=ntlm,_netdev
[01:23] <MrCelery> okay... so not in the fstab
[01:23] <tomreyn> http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/bionic/man8/mount.cifs.8.html
[01:23] <xamithan> Do that
[01:24] <mr-robot> hi all
[01:24] <mr-robot> iam using kubuntu
[01:25] <MrCelery> it worked
[01:25] <MrCelery> thanks
[01:25] <mr-robot> and i want to change my konsole style so... i downloaded some files to /usr/share/konsole but i want to know how to use it
[01:25] <xamithan> Nice,  that was quick
[01:26] <mr-robot> i want to use Charlie.colorscheme
[01:27] <tomreyn> mr-robot: i suggest you ask in #kubuntu
[01:28] <mr-robot> okay thanks tomreyn
[01:57] <AndyChow888> Hi. Is umake still supported? I get "ERROR: Download page changed its syntax or is not parsable (url missing)".
[02:00] <k_sze[work]> If I have multiple monitors, is there a way to set the default monitor in which application windows will open?
[02:01] <k_sze[work]> Right now, if I launch, e.g., gvim from the shell in Terminal, sometimes the window opens in my second monitor and I don't want that.
[02:01] <k_sze[work]> I want all new windows to always open in my first monitor by default.
[02:07] <k_sze[work]> (I'm on Ubuntu 18.04.2)
[02:18] <jcb2016> Has anyone here used mkusb if so was it difficult to use?
[02:24] <guiver_d> jcb2016: i haven't used it, but in case you haven't looked at doco - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/mkusb
[02:35] <rodrigo_> umm hi
[02:35] <tomreyn> k_sze[work]: maybe this helps? https://superuser.com/questions/1133904/how-to-set-default-display-for-new-windows-in-gnome-3
[02:39] <tomreyn> AndyChow888: the package providing the umake binary still exists and version numbers still grow: https://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=ubuntu-make - that's all i know about it.
[02:53] <k_sze[work]> tomreyn, doesn't really help
[02:54] <k_sze[work]> e.g. configuring the Terminal app using the auto move window extension is pretty broken.
[02:54] <k_sze[work]> If I press Ctrl+Shift+N, the new window is nowhere to be found.
[02:55] <tomreyn> that's even with workspaces set only to the primary window?
[02:55] <k_sze[work]> yes
[02:55] <k_sze[work]> Well, I configure Terminal app to always appear in Workspace 2.
[02:55] <tomreyn> i see. well, it eemed like it could work.
[02:56] <tomreyn> oh, well, then i guess it can'T work
[02:57] <k_sze[work]> I think the Terminal app still tries to follow my mouse cursor.
[02:57] <k_sze[work]> If my mouse cursor is on my primary display, it's effectively outside the display area of workspace 2.
[02:58] <k_sze[work]> And even when my mouse cursor is on my secondary display, the new Terminal window opens *underneath* my current window, which is annoying in another way.
[03:00] <k_sze[work]> Is there a different desktop environment or window manager that would behave in the way I prefer?
[03:02] <k_sze[work]> It's too bad that KDE seems somehow broken with the Intel integrated graphics in my machine.
[03:02] <Bashing-om> k_sze[work]: Boot up a live xubuntu - xfce has native support for multi-monitors.
[03:16] <Sveta> file bug reports with kde
[03:22] <AndyChow888> k_sze[work], does "xrandr --output <screen_name> --primary" solve your use-case? If so, that's a temporary solution, but I'm not sure that gives your desired behavior.
[03:23] <newdimension> How can I find out what application is prompting Ubuntu to ask me for my private key password? I'm being asked about every half hour. Ubuntu 18.10
[03:24] <AndyChow888> newdimension, what are you doing when it asks you for your password?
[03:25] <newdimension> AndyChow888: No discernable pattern. Moslty working in Pycharm so I either have its window open or Firefox
[03:25] <AndyChow888> Firefox will never ask you for a password.
[03:26] <tomreyn> AndyChow888: it will if you use it as a password store and have a master password set.
[03:26] <newdimension> right, I get the Ubuntu prompt to unlock my private key
[03:26] <gambl0r3> does anyone know how to fix high cpu usage with ubuntu?
[03:27] <tomreyn> gambl0r3: use less cpu.
[03:27] <tomreyn> !details
[03:27] <AndyChow888> That should not be the same password as your system. But ok. Then only when you access something where you stored a password. Python things should never ask for passwords, or you should use --user thinghy.
[03:27] <newdimension> tomreyn: I don't use FF as a password store, nor do I have a master password set on it. Also, the prompt would look default. I'm getting the Ubuntu prompt that says an Application needs access to your private key and its locked. I'm fuzzy on the wording, but it's the normal one I get whenever I genuinely need to unlock my key e.g. on git push
[03:27] <newdimension> *FF prompt would look different
[03:28] <gambl0r3> i meant to ask, anyone know hot fix high cpu usage using firefox with ubuntu?
[03:28] <gambl0r3> how to...
[03:28] <AndyChow888> gambl0r3, remove ff and install chromium, or buy a better PC.
[03:29] <XF> Guys, is there any way by which i can change time of closing display of lock screen? because when i use windowbutton + L, it locks and when i move cursor it shows the screen but later again turns off display in less than 1 min
[03:29] <AndyChow888> I am currently using FF and Chromium, watching youtube. My CPU usage is 3%.
[03:29] <XF> i searched alot but nothing working
[03:29] <tomreyn> gambl0r3: tyle this in the location bar: about:performance
[03:30] <XF> even tried dconf thing
[03:30] <gambl0r3> tomreyn, ok then what
[03:30] <AndyChow888> XF, go to the power settings, change the delay.
[03:31] <tomreyn> gambl0r3: press enter. it'll provide an overview of how energy impacting (which is a similar measure to cpu cycles burnt) your single tabs and extensions are
[03:32] <AndyChow888> tomreyn is correct. You might have extensions that are behaving badly.
[03:32] <newdimension> Just got asked again, so it's around every 20 minutes...
[03:33] <AndyChow888> newdimension, say no.
[03:33] <newdimension> I am
[03:33] <AndyChow888> And what happens?
[03:33] <newdimension> Prompt closes, and get it again later
[03:33] <newdimension> Is there a log that tracks these requests? Or at least a way to know what application is asking
[03:33] <XF> AndyChow888: i've set these options: http://i.imgur.com/0RuqnrK.png  But still the same prob
[03:33] <tomreyn> gambl0r3: most of the time what causes a performance impact is really browser extensions. also try with a new profile, see if this performs reasonably better (firefox -P) or restart with addons disabled (from the help menu)
[03:34] <gambl0r3> everything is showing Low Engery impact
[03:35] <AndyChow888> newdimension, you might look in /var/logs, see if anything was changed in the last minutes, and read those logs.
[03:36] <AndyChow888> It seems rather suspicious, to be honest. I've never had that, in any distro.
[03:37] <gambl0r3> tomreyn, i only have two extensions, uBlock and react dev tools. i disabled both and rebooted. cpu usage still up
[03:37] <gambl0r3> let me clarify one thing. cpu usage isnt always high. it only spikes when loading a new page
[03:37] <gambl0r3> but is that normal?
[03:37] <newdimension> AndyChow888: In auth.log I see Apr  3 23:25:03 VM gnome-keyring-daemon[1585]: the /usr/bin/ssh-add command failed: Child process exited with code 1 and this seems to be related https://superuser.com/questions/1359181/an-application-wants-to-access-the-private-key-but-its-locked-ssh
[03:38] <XF> when i move cursor it shows me lock screen time, but within 1 min display gets off, but i set to 5 mins
[03:38] <gambl0r3> and when i mean spike, it goes over 100%
[03:38] <AndyChow888> newdimension, ssh is a way to remotely access a computer. Are you doing any ssh stuff?
[03:38] <tomreyn> gambl0r3: 100% means one of your (many?) CPU cores is kept busy.
[03:39] <gambl0r3> tomreyn, so you're saying its normal?
[03:39] <tomreyn> gambl0r3: when you access a new web page it means the renderer needs to render it, surely this will drive up the load
[03:39] <AndyChow888> Random spikes don't matter.
[03:39] <tomreyn> gambl0r3: what's your hardware? cpu and RAM?
[03:39] <newdimension> I use ssh, but wasn't at the moment. ssh-add though, as far as I know is a way to register a key https://www.ssh.com/ssh/add
[03:39] <gambl0r3> 8giga ram i5
[03:40] <tomreyn> gambl0r3: so a multi core cpu, and sufficient ram. i don't think there's an issue.
[03:40] <AndyChow888> gambl0r3, if in doubt, run htop , and look at the load average. If it's under 1 (or under the number of cores you have), then it doesn't matter.
[03:41] <AndyChow888> newdimension, made any enemies recently?
[03:42] <gambl0r3> tomreyn, even watching hd youtube? my fan turns on. and cpu usage is always over 100% usage. my fan doesnt turn on when watching hd videos on my 5 year old laptop
[03:42] <tomreyn> newdimension: i suspect you have a cron job or other regularly running job which requires access to an ssh private key which is password encrypted
[03:42] <newdimension> Not as far as I know :D, but I don't think it's nefarious. I upgraded from 18.4 to 18.10 a few weeks back. While the issue didn't start immediately, I feel that it's probably an issue with some kind of new package
[03:43] <newdimension> tomreyn: that's the case, but I'm not familiar with what's running: https://dpaste.de/rDvc
[03:43] <tomreyn> gambl0r3: try with a new profile.
[03:44] <gambl0r3> tomreyn, i was reading somewhere online something about hardware acceleration?
[03:44] <gambl0r3> just that be turned on or off
[03:45] <AndyChow888> gambl0r3, https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/performance-settings?as=u&utm_source=inproduct
[03:45] <AndyChow888> hardware acceleration requires compatible gpu
[03:48] <tomreyn> newdimension: "gnome-keyring-daemon[1585]: the /usr/bin/ssh-add command failed: Child process exited with code 1" *may* suggest that no ssh-agent is running, causing ssh-add to fail. this is a theory. if you can find out what makes ssh-add fail there (and how it is run exactly), you should be closer to a solution.
[03:49] <newdimension> Is this usually in cron.daily? google-chrome@                    --> /opt/google/chrome/cron/google-chrome
[03:51] <tomreyn> newdimension: no, since google chrome is not normally installed on ubuntu.
[03:51] <tomreyn> it is also not available from ubuntu archives.
[03:51] <tomreyn> chromium is.
[03:51] <AndyChow888> newdimension, perhaps if you have chrome installed. Might be a daily check to see if there are updates.
[03:51] <AndyChow888> Things in /opt are closed sourced, non-standard software.
[03:52] <AndyChow888> Just read it, what does it do? It should say.
[03:53] <tomreyn> newdimension: maybe start with this:  echo 'SSH_AGENT_PID: '"$SSH_AGENT_PID"; ps $SSH_AGENT_PID
[03:56] <tomreyn> gambl0r3: iÄm pretty sure you and i discussed hardware acceleration of your web browser recently. you had modified some experimental firefox property, causing issues. and had the common property for hardware accelerated rendering (which is exposed on preferences sscreens) disabled.
[03:57] <tomreyn> you should leave experimental settings alone (reset to default by right-clicking them on about:config) and enable graphics card assisted rendering.
[03:57] <MMZF> someone reply?
[03:58] <asas> Hi all! Whats new?
[03:59] <newdimension> tomreyn: https://dpaste.de/WDJY
[04:01] <tomreyn> !ot | asas
[04:02] <tomreyn> XF: see if settings -> privacy -> screen lock (click it to bring up more options) helps you achieve what you w3ant.
[04:04] <tomreyn> newdimension: hmm okay so an ssh agent is running and the environment variable points to the correct PID. this prooves my theory wrong, but you can still try to ssh-add all your ssh keys one by one and see what happens, whether this ever triggers an error.
[04:04] <newdimension> Doesn't this show that my SSH-agent is different than the gnome one trying to be run?
[04:08] <tomreyn> newdimension: i don't think you run a "gnome ssh agent", just the standard ssh agent, which gnome-keyring-agent tried to ssh-add keys to as part of this regularly running process. but this ssh-add subcommand fails, for yet unknown reasons. ssh-add'ing each of your existing ssh keys manually should enable you to determine which of your ssh keys is causing this subprocess to fail, and to make it work. which i assume will then get rid of the repeat
[04:08] <tomreyn> authentication prompts
[04:08] <gambl0r3> tomreyn, did we?
[04:08] <gambl0r3> im not using a experimental version of ff?
[04:09] <tomreyn> gambl0r3: no, but an experimental setting (property), at least you were at the time.
[04:09] <gambl0r3> tomreyn, is this normal?? https://i.imgur.com/HWCKoFo.jpg
[04:11] <tomreyn> does it happen with a new firefox profile with the same browser tabs loaded?
[04:16] <tomreyn> do you get the same load if you watch the same video in vlc instead? vlc 'https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZI3Q2-LtK9U'
[04:18] <tomreyn> surely watching two videos at the same time on a system without proper jhardware video acceleration can drive up load and trigger your fans.
[04:18] <tomreyn> gambl0r3: ^ so as far as i'm concerned there's no issue here.
[04:19] <tomreyn> newdimension: this is a bit releated to the issues you see, maybe it helps reading it: https://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2390566
[04:21] <luka_33> What could cause a drive to fail to be recognized by a linux machine, but successfully be read by a windows one
[04:21] <newdimension> tomreyn: I got through the thread, thanks. I was able to ssh-add my keys, with no error. The only different is that one of my keys when ssh-keys -L showed *key* user while the other was *key* location. After I ssh-add'd it changed from *key* user to *key* location
[04:21] <newdimension> *I'll go through
[04:21] <gambl0r3> tomreyn, i use olny one profile
[04:22] <AndyChow888> luka_33, what do you mean by fail to be recognized? Does lsblk see it?
[04:22] <AndyChow888> (or lsusb in case of a usb drive).
[04:23] <luka_33> I'll list what I've tried: fdisk doesn't show it, lsusb doesn't either: dmesg doesn't return anything relevent
[04:23] <luka_33> It's to the point that I thought it had hardware damage -- this being an external 1 TB HDD
[04:23] <tomreyn> gambl0r3: that's common, but you could create a new one for testing, and then thrash it and return to your standard profile.
[04:24] <luka_33> Yet windows successfully read the drive, albiet it read that it was ext and couldn't thusly be read by windows
[04:24] <gambl0r3> tomreyn, ok but what do you want me to test?
[04:24] <luka_33> this is confounding.
[04:25] <luka_33> And it worked successfully in the past on multiple devices, and now doesn't work on those same devices.
[04:25] <tomreyn> gambl0r3: nothing really, i don't think there's an issue, unless you have a dedicated graphics card and that's not helping with keeping down the system load while playing two HD videos in your web browser.
[04:25] <AndyChow888> luka_33, lsusb doesn't show it? Could be sign of a controller failure, especially if windows can read it, but not copy any files from it. It might be in state of failing. Try to backup the data if you don't have another backup.
[04:26] <luka_33> no the windows not being able to read it is standard operating procedure.  I got the same result when it was working -- windows can't read ext partitions without third party software.
[04:26] <tomreyn> luka_33: disconnect the drive, wait 10 seconds. reconnect the drive, then run this, and post the address returned by it here:   dmesg | tail -n20 | nc termbin.com 9999
[04:26] <luka_33> will do
[04:27] <gambl0r3> tomreyn, ok
[04:27] <tomreyn> luka_33: also post this: nc termbin.com 9999 < <(lsb_release -ds;cat /proc/{version,cmdline};)
[04:28] <luka_33> ah wait, is nc something native on ubuntu?
[04:28] <tomreyn> yes
[04:28] <tomreyn> why would you ask?
[04:30] <luka_33> ok sorry I had it uninstalled.
[04:30] <luka_33> https://termbin.com/xjp7
[04:30] <newdimension> tomreyn: ssh-add the key _might_ have solved the issue. I think the frequency is every 10 minutes according to the logs, and am a minute pass that without a prompt
[04:30] <newdimension> *past
[04:30] <luka_33> and the second : https://termbin.com/5keg
[04:30] <tomreyn> luka_33: what'S the name of this channel?
[04:31] <luka_33> should've have posted that lol; that said, I also tested this on my mates ubuntu machine with the same result
[04:32] <luka_33> so I figured (possibly incorrectly) that it was irrelevent of distro
[04:32] <tomreyn> luka_33: you can get support with ubuntu here when you have ubuntu logs and versions to report.
[04:32] <luka_33> damn
[04:32] <tomreyn> luka_33: as the topic cleary says, this channel is for ubuntu support
[04:32] <tomreyn> and the name, too
[04:33] <zenguy> hey any known issues when installing on a system with a rtx2070?
[04:33] <tomreyn> zenguy: no poills please. if you have a specific issue, please discuss this instead.
[04:34] <zenguy> ok i tried to install ubuntu 18.04 and ended up with one out of two monitors working and the resolution really low and choppy graphics to the point where it made firefox unuseable
[04:35] <AndyChow888> zenguy, what gpu do you have? Nvidia?
[04:35] <zenguy> yes rtx 2070
[04:35] <tomreyn> zenguy: also logs would help, and information on how the monitors are connected.
[04:36] <tomreyn> and the specific ubuntu version
[04:36] <zenguy> 18.04
[04:36] <AndyChow888> zenguy, you need to install the nvidia drivers. add ppa graphics, then install nvidia 418 drivers. I have the same card, same 18.04.
[04:36] <zenguy> monitors are the 2k via hdmi and the 4k by dp
[04:37] <tomreyn> 18.04.0, 18.04.1, 18.04.2, 18.04.1.0, ubuntu desktop, or another flavour, or ubuntu server?
[04:37] <zenguy> ubuntu desktop
[04:37] <AndyChow888> zenguy, "sudo add-apt-repository ppa:graphics-drivers/ppa", then update, and "ubuntu-drivers autoinstall"
[04:37] <tomreyn> i agree with andy there
[04:38] <zenguy> ok thanks i'll try that :)
[04:38] <AndyChow888> zenguy, you might also have to install the hwe linux kernel, not sure. I think I had to for cuda 10.1 on that card.
[04:39] <tomreyn> kernel and X, or just kernel?
[04:39] <zenguy> hwe linux kernal?
[04:39] <tomreyn> !hwe
[04:39] <AndyChow888> kernel and X. But you might not have to. Do one, then if not fixed, do the other.
[04:40] <tomreyn> zenguy might already have HWE if they installed 18.04.2
[04:40] <AndyChow888> Like: sudo apt-get install --install-recommends linux-generic-hwe-18.04 xserver-xorg-hwe-18.04
[04:40] <AndyChow888> Yes tomreyn, it's likely.
[04:41] <tomreyn> be sure to     sudo apt update    beforehand
[04:41] <AndyChow888> RTX is still relatively new, hardware wise. But everything can work in 18.04, including TensorRT and all that good stuff.
[04:42] <zenguy> thanks guys :)
[04:44] <ubuntu> hello
[04:44] <Guest57961> Guest
[05:05] <c06> hi all. my ubuntu 16.04.6 machine suddenly got hanged without any error messages.
[05:06] <c06> when i checked the daemon log am able to see some glitches (Tue Apr  2 15:59:59 2019) [sssd[be[cee.ericsson.com]]] [acctinfo_callback] (0x0100): Request processed. Returned 0,0,Success 451622 ^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^       @^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^
[05:06] <c06> is there any way i can find why my system hanged
[05:08] <tomreyn> c06: not unless oyu can reproduce it and take preparatory steps, i'm afraid.
[05:09] <tomreyn> these ^@ characters is what you usually get to see before a kernel crashes.
[05:10] <sub526> .
[05:11] <sub526> Hi All, sudo apt-cache policy <dkms_pkg> shows the available versions of the selected dkms package. Suppose if i want to switch the installed dkms package from latest to some older version, is there any command to switch?
[05:11] <tomreyn> c06: try "sudo apt-get update" and "sudo ubuntu-support-status --show-unsupported" to see whether you have unsupported packages installed.
[05:11] <Mead> is there a guide for decyphering how ubuntu names interfaces?
[05:12] <tomreyn> c06: also, check which kernel you were running when it happened, and whether a newer one is now available (may already be installed, or pending installaiton)
[05:12] <tomreyn> Mead: https://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Software/systemd/PredictableNetworkInterfaceNames/ - as also seen in the release notes
[05:15] <c06> tomreyn: thanks, give some sec sharing the details
[05:15] <tomreyn> sub526: to downgrade a package - which is unsupported - you run "apt-get update && apt-cache policy packagename" to determine which versions are available, then "sudo apt install packagename=version"
[05:16] <c06> tomreyn: kernel version : Linux compute-110-2.domain.tld 4.15.0-45-generic #48~16.04.1-Ubuntu SMP Tue Jan 29 18:03:48 UTC 2019 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[05:16] <tomreyn> sub526: this package will still get re-updated next time you / your system (automaticall) installs updates. to prevent this, you can "sudo apt mark hold packagename"
[05:18] <tomreyn> c06: two patchlevels behind. and if i recall correctly this version was not a good one.
[05:19] <c06> tomreyn: is there any page/link can i refer. because only some machines are facing this issue. all others are running fine
[05:19] <tomreyn> c06: two patchlevels behind, xenial hwe is now at 4.15.0.47.68. and if i recall correctly the version you have / had was not a good one.
[05:20] <tomreyn> ^ rephrased
[05:20] <tomreyn> c06: i'll try to find a bug report which may be related, give me a minute
[05:21] <c06> tomreyn: thanks for your help.. :)
[05:23] <tomreyn> c06: this might be related to bug 1813873
[05:25] <tomreyn> while the first post may suggest that this was fixed after 4.15.0-44 it was actually fixed by 4.15.0-46 (so your 4.15.0-45 was still affected)
[05:25] <tomreyn> see comment #48 for the version providing the fix
[05:26] <c06> tomreyn: is there any way i can reproduce this bug..?
[05:28] <tomreyn> c06: i just got disconnected off my bouncer, may have missed anything you may have written after <c06> tomreyn: thanks for your help.. :)
[05:28] <tomreyn> what i wrote last is this: while the first post may suggest that this was fixed after 4.15.0-44 it was actually fixed by 4.15.0-46 (so your 4.15.0-45 was still affected). see comment #48 for the version providing the fix.
[05:29] <c06> tomreyn: thanks for the comment. actually i have 10 machines with same config only one or two machines are facing this issue.. :(
[05:30] <c06> tomreyn: is there any way i can reproduce/ hung those machine so that i can suggest my team for kernel upgrade
[05:30] <tomreyn> this issue (assuming, not knowing, this is what is causing the issues you see) did not affect all systems, just some
[05:31] <tomreyn> c06: reproducer: not that i know of. but affected systems showed corruption when switching tty's and attempting to login
[05:31] <tomreyn> maybe just some of those, again
[05:32] <tomreyn> you have plenty of duplicate reports to read there
[05:32] <tomreyn> some of which will surely discuss more symptoms. i didn't read all of them
[05:33] <c06> tomreyn: thanks again i ll read once again and i will find some way upgrade this kernels
[05:34] <tomreyn> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/Debugging and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/KernelDebuggingTricks may help the team if you find a reproducer
[05:34] <cfhowlett> c06, sounds like you're running a server.  Perhaps #ubuntu-server can help
[05:35] <tomreyn> but generally the bug title alone should provide sufficient reasoning for patchinog things up
[05:35] <lotuspsychje> morning cfhowlett
[05:35] <cfhowlett> afternoon lotuspsychje
[05:37] <c06> tomreyn: sure i ll check and i suggest my team to upgrade
[05:37] <c06> thanks again
[05:42] <tomreyn> you'Re welcome.
[05:43] <c06> tomreyn: have a nice day
[05:43] <tomreyn> c06: you, too.
[05:44] <lotuspsychje> Mead: what do you want to decypher on it?
[05:45] <lotuspsychje> sub526: what are you trying to do with dkms, your end goal?
[05:46] <sub526> lotuspsychje: We have out-of-tree kernel modules and these are released as dkms modules. I want to downgrade a particular dkms module
[05:47] <lotuspsychje> Deihmos: why would you exclude kernel updates?
[05:48] <lotuspsychje> sub526: where did you get those dkms modules from?
[05:48] <Deihmos> Because livepatch
[05:48] <c06> tomreyn: just for small conifirmation after this issue my machine got hanged and i need to reboot to get my machine backwith
[05:49] <lotuspsychje> Deihmos: running behind on updates is a security risk, not sure what you want to acomplish?
[05:50] <Deihmos> Doesn’t livepatch auto patch the kernel
[05:53] <lotuspsychje> Deihmos: yes, but why do you want to exclude?
[05:54] <lotuspsychje> arooni: there are a few settings on notify in dconf-editor if you like
[05:55] <tomreyn> c06: this confirms that your system had an issue, it doesn't say which issue it is. ;-)
[05:55] <guiver_d> Deihmos: fyi: "Since there are limitations to the kernel livepatch technology, some Linux kernel code paths cannot be safely patched while running. There may be occasions when the traditional kernel upgrade and reboot might still be necessary."  (https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/Livepatch)
[05:56] <lotuspsychje> !sound | Sysifoss
[05:58] <tomreyn> Deihmos: An example: "Due to the high complexity of the fixes, we are unable to livepatch this CVE. Please plan to reboot into kernel version 4.4.0-108.131 or newer as soon as possible." https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-security-announce/2018-January/004214.html
[05:58] <tomreyn> i.e. you still want to install kernel patches. they wont get used and livepatch won't touch them until you reboot.
[05:59] <tomreyn> and you want to reboot to them whenever there are bugs which cannot be fixed by livepatch.
[05:59] <tomreyn> (or more often)
[06:09] <cim209> does anyone know a trusted repo i can add to install linux malware detect? apt search returns nothing
[06:09] <lotuspsychje> cognition___: apt-cache search openjdk or follow this for xenial: https://linuxconfig.org/how-to-install-java-on-ubuntu-18-04-bionic-beaver-linux
[06:09] <c06> tomreyn: thanks :)
[06:10] <lotuspsychje> cim209: we dont really reccomend using external repos, try installing packages from the official repos
[06:10] <lotuspsychje> cim209: what kind of malware are you trying to catch?
[06:11] <cim209> lotuspsychje: i'm looking at https://packages.ubuntu.com/bionic/
[06:11] <cim209> just a general malware scanner
[06:11] <guiver_d> cim209: clamav is in repos and doesn't require a PPA  (https://packages.ubuntu.com/search?suite=all&searchon=names&keywords=clamav)
[06:11] <cim209> guiver_d: ya i saw
[06:12] <lotuspsychje> cim209: malware is a very general term, in security there's really alot of different techniques to catch malicious
[06:12] <cim209> lotuspsychje: agreed
[06:13] <cim209> i'm no security expert, just have basic security in placed
[06:13] <lotuspsychje> cim209: i like lynis alot, scans a system pretty profound of 'unusual' behaviour
[06:14] <lotuspsychje> !info lynis | cim209
[06:14] <cim209> cool, i'll check it out
[06:14] <tomreyn> cim209: so what's your use case? maldet is primarily targetting shared web hosting, i think.
[06:14] <cim209> tomreyn: i am hosting sites
[06:15] <cim209> mainly wordpress
[06:15] <lotuspsychje> ouch
[06:15] <cim209> all the sites nginx and php configs are hardened
[06:15] <tomreyn> cim209: shared webhosting / user uploads and dynamic websites?
[06:16] <cim209> tomreyn: most of them are controlled by me but one site has another guy uploading his content
[06:16] <lotuspsychje> cim209: for wordpress i advice you daily follow 0day exploits
[06:16] <cim209> lotuspsychje: oh man i got a taste of zeroday the other week lol
[06:16] <tomreyn> let's move to -discuss or -offtopic
[06:17] <lotuspsychje> !discuss | cim209 good idea
[06:18] <cim209> i'm installing lynis on my sandbox server, gonna test it out now
[06:18] <cim209> lotuspsychje: thanks for suggestions
[06:18] <lotuspsychje> np
[06:18] <lotuspsychje> cim209: but as tomreyn suggest, better discuss more finetweak on your use case
[06:20] <cim209> true
[06:42] <Qaqa> helo
[06:43] <alignwaivers> hey
[06:44] <Qaqa> hey
[06:44] <absence> when an ubuntu system is locked, the screen turns off, and i can press a key to turn it on and get the password prompt. however, even if i stop typing for just a few seconds, it turns off again. how can i change this timeout?
[06:44] <alignwaivers> im curious does anyone know about using multiple hds simultaneously in ubuntu? I forgot to double check and I just installed kde neon without considering installing os to the small ssd which would probably be ideal...
[06:44] <alignwaivers> but after looking im not sure if it did this automatically?
[06:47] <Eloai> I don't think I understand your question. You will be able to see your other hds just fine as they get mounted too.
[06:49] <alignwaivers> if i have an ssd that is 16 gb and an hd that is 500, I should put the o.s. on the ssd, but how much should I leave for swap space (or does it matter if I put that on the hdd)?
[06:50] <bentinata> Hello. Why on "which" return 1 even though the executable is clearly there?
[06:51] <lapion> I have atril with a document that's open and it's using 83,325g Virtual memory accoring to top
[06:56] <geodb27> People : hi ! I'm on a fresh install of ubuntu 18.04 (server) and face a problem with network setup. Indeed, all my parameters (ip, mask, dns servers) are provided by a dhcp server. This is quite fine. However, with the new setup for dns provided by ubuntu, my machine can resolve all but what resides on my own domain.
[06:56] <nikolam> Is there a smarter way to handle BTRFS snapshots (after installing apt-btrfs-snapshot to create snapshot on every apt install/upgrade operation) , then to delete them manually in CLI, one by one?  Like some GUI?...
[06:57] <geodb27> What would be the best practice to have my dns servers be provided by my dhcp server and not have this uggly 127.0.0.53 fake server that serves nothing at all ?
[07:02] <tomreyn> geodb27: please   /join #ubuntu-server   and repeat your question there.
[07:02] <geodb27> All right, thanks tomreyn.
[07:04] <tomreyn> lapion: that's a löot. did you have a support question about it?
[07:07] <tomreyn> alignwaivers: if you expect to be swapping much, you should probably put swap on the ssd. it will increase its wear, though, so don't do it on old ssds. ideally, though, you'll have much / just enough ram and won't be swapping to disk more than just a very little bit. and then it's not really relevant whether it is fast or slow storage.
[07:07] <tomreyn> ah, gone
[07:30] <Volund> is there any easy to verify that a process or user/group has effective access to a specific file/folder?
[07:31] <Volund> easy way*
[07:32] <tomreyn> Volund: sudo -u USER touch /where/they/should/have/access/to; sudo -u USER rm -f /where/they/should/have/access/to
[07:33] <tomreyn> that's for write access
[07:33] <tomreyn> read access, you'd create a file with unique content as the super user and have the restricted user read it (cat)
[07:34] <absence> when an ubuntu system is locked, the screen turns off, and i can press a key to turn it on and get the password prompt. however, even if i stop typing for just a few seconds, it turns off again. how can i change this timeout?
[07:36] <r1nt3c_> hi there
[07:36] <tomreyn> absence: did you see what i responded last but one time you asked, when you were here as "XF"?     See if settings -> privacy -> screen lock (click it to bring up more options) helps you achieve what you want.
[07:36] <tomreyn> i'm not sure this let's you configure what you're trying to configure, though.
[07:37] <tomreyn> r1nt3c_: hello there.
[07:37] <r1nt3c_> ls -a
[07:37] <tomreyn> r1nt3c_: do you have an ubuntu support question?
[07:40] <absence> tomreyn: not sure what you mean by XF, but there are no settings for configuring the lock screen itself there
[07:42] <nanoleaf> anyone?
[07:43] <nanoleaf> say a word
[07:43] <tomreyn> absence: soemone named "XF" was here previously asking a very similar question to yours, posting this screen shot: http://i.imgur.com/0RuqnrK.png  - I assumed you were the same person, apprently not.
[07:44] <nanoleaf> 0.0
[07:44] <tomreyn> nanoleaf: do you have an ubuntu support question?
[07:45] <absence> tomreyn: i see. i guess it's difficult to find this option if more people are looking for it :)
[07:45] <nanoleaf> no, just curious about this software
[07:45] <tomreyn> !chat | nanoleaf
[07:46] <tomreyn> !discuss | nanoleaf
[07:48] <tomreyn> absence: so this doesn't help, right? https://i.imgur.com/RYzRZpL.png
[07:50] <absence> tomreyn: unless i'm mistaken, that controls how long it takes for the desktop to lock
[07:51] <tomreyn> some other options are discussed here https://askubuntu.com/questions/1042641/how-to-set-custom-lock-screen-time-in-ubuntu-18-04/1042685#1042685
[07:51] <absence> tomreyn: i've read that and a bunch of other stackoverflow answers. they're all about the time it takes for the desktop to go to the lock screen
[07:53] <absence> tomreyn: i'm interested in configuring how long the lock screen itself takes to blank
[07:54] <tomreyn> absence: i assuem the timeout may be hard coded for security and interoperability (with pam) reasons. but you could ask such questions on a gnome specific channel.
[07:54] <absence> tomreyn: i have the desktop-to-lockscreen period set to 5 minutes, but when i'm in the lockscreen, it blanks much faster. not sure if it's even a minute, and it's highly annoying
[08:04] <lotuspsychje> absence: check in dconf-editor, there's a bunch of settings on 'lock' there
[08:04] <howardg> good day! does anyone know a way to detect "apt-get update" network error? The command always exits 0.
[08:05] <lotuspsychje> howardg: can you pastebin whats happening please?
[08:06] <howardg> An example of such network error is "Could not connect to xxxxxxxxx connection timed out", then apt-get moves on and eventually exits 0
[08:06] <lotuspsychje> howardg: can you pastebin whats happening please?
[08:07] <absence> lotuspsychje: thanks, already been there :)
[08:08] <unsureuser> Hi all. I am on a 32-bit computer. I have 16.04 LTS installed and running. It prompted me to upgrade to Ubuntu 18.04.2 LTS (Bionic Beaver). I heard Ubuntu has dropped support for 32-bit. What should I do? Upgrade to 18.04.2 LTS or made do with 16.04 (supports 32-bit)?
[08:10] <lotuspsychje> absence: do lets presume you cant tweak then?
[08:10] <lotuspsychje> *so
[08:14] <Tankburn> I want to install PyCharm. Where is the best place to extract the installation home folder to? The install.txt let you decide but I am too novice to know what the best choice is.
[08:14] <ryuo> unsureuser: that refers to the installation media. 32 bit is still present in the repos.
[08:15] <guiver_d> unsureuser: if you want to upgrade to 18.04 LTS - you can.  They are no longer spinning ISO's for Ubuntu 18.04 x86/i686, but flavors still do, and it's still supported; more limited ISO options are the prime difference
[08:16] <ryuo> unsureuser: you can still install 32 bit if you know what you're doing, but at this point it might be time to upgrade to something new enough to run 64 bit natively.
[08:17] <blackflow> Tankburn: install the snap, I'm using it.
[08:17] <unsureuser> Okay, got that. Thank you, ryuo and guiver_d :)
[08:18] <absence> lotuspsychje: it's not impossible, but it sounds unreasonable to not be able to tweak a screen saver
[08:19] <ryuo> snaps. i thought they were great until i tried to install the piranha snap. ow.
[08:19] <ryuo> :P
[08:20] <blackflow> not all snaps are bad
[08:21] <blackflow> pycharm is very good. the only "problem" I have with it is that, due to autoupdate of snaps, you can't test an upgrade which might break something. happens very, very rarely, but it happens. I'd still use that instead of manually fidling with the tarball, like I used to before.
[08:23] <guiver_d> unsureuser: fyi:   I have a x86/i686 pentium4 test box running Lubuntu 19.04 on kernel 5.0; I'd still likely be using 18.04 though it if wasn't a testbox, and I wouldn't run GNOME (18.04) on my x86/i686, ie. you'll have to decide if you want to try (backup first!)
[08:23] <gr33n3r> blackflow, do we still not have the ability to turn snap auto-updates off?
[08:24] <nils_> blackflow, I believe you can roll back though, I'm also a big Jetbrains user.
[08:24] <ryuo> guiver_d: pentium4? why? that thing's an energy guzzler.
[08:25] <nils_> I think it's great, the Pentium D is even better, keeps your coffee warm for days.
[08:25] <guiver_d> ryuo: it's great when it's cold :)
[08:25] <brlin> gr33n3r: You can determine how and when to update with an exception to turn it completely off: https://docs.snapcraft.io/keeping-snaps-up-to-date/7022
[08:26] <blackflow> gr33n3r: nils_: yes, snap revert, but I'd still love to have a controlled environment when I schedule and test the upgrades _first_
[08:26] <ryuo> guiver_d: i see. i only say that because it would make sense to upgrade to something more energy efficient. the cost savings i've been told could pay for itself in due time.
[08:27] <gr33n3r> brlin, so you can't turn it off completely? Just change the schedule?
[08:27] <brlin> gr33n3r: Yep.
[08:28] <gr33n3r> that's a shame
[08:28] <guiver_d> ryuo: thanks, it was put into service for testing x86 installs/live  (which no longer exist for lubuntu/xubuntu..) - it's still useful for testing on occasion (not used other than that)
[08:28] <blackflow> that totally removes any possibility of using snaps for servers unless, as some have suggested, you run your own snap proxy repo whatever. I have yet to find docs for that.
[08:29] <alignwaivers> anybody know the proper way to change the /home directory to a new partition?
[08:29] <alignwaivers> (/different hard drive)
[08:30] <ygk_12345> hi all
[08:30] <nils_> blackflow, I used to use ZFS on my workstations with an apt hook to take a snapshot any time I changed something but it's too much hassle with new kernels
[08:30] <ygk_12345> when I create a network namespace using ip netns add test on ubuntu 18 , it is hanginig
[08:30] <ygk_12345> it doesn't complte
[08:31] <ygk_12345> ans I see this error when listing namespaces "Error: Peer netns reference is invalid."
[08:31] <Ool> alignwaivers: in sum up, mount the new partition as /mount, as root copy all data, umount /mnt , umount your old /home and mount the new one
[08:33] <Ool> I said copy, but you can use rsync, you just need to keep the owner and right
[08:36] <blackflow> nils_: I use ZFS exclusively too, but rolling back is not the answer. and you can snap revert anyway
[08:36] <blackflow> nils_: and what do you mean with too much hassle with new kernels?
[08:37] <ygk_12345> is anyone familiar here with network namespaces ?
[08:37] <nils_> blackflow, indeed, given that I never actually rolled back anything I gave up on it, I have regular backups anyways.
[08:37] <blackflow> nils_: you gave up on ZFS?
[08:37] <nils_> blackflow, well any time there is a new kernel the zfs module won't build against it, an unfortunate reality with out of tree modules
[08:37] <nils_> blackflow, I only use it on my NAS now.
[08:38] <blackflow> nils_: uh... Ubuntu packages ZFS modules preinstalled, no dkms any more.
[08:38] <blackflow> been like that for years
[08:39] <nils_> blackflow, I know but I build and run my own kernel.
[08:39] <ygk_12345> is anyone familiar here with network namespaces ?
[08:40] <blackflow> nils_: ah so you run bleeding edge kernels which ZoL doesn't support yet? I can see that. Dont blame ZFS tho :) latest and greatest kernels, I wouldn't run them ever. too many bugs and problems that get fixed months later.
[08:40] <ryuo> ygk_12345: what about it? i'm using it through LXC.
[08:40] <blackflow> nils_: (even on gentoo, which I still use, I'm on 4.14 and will slowly test 4.19 before I upgrade)
[08:40] <nils_> blackflow, I'm using stable kernels, not the rc. I don't blame ZFS it's an unfortunate situation.
[08:41] <nils_> that is extremely conservative ;)
[08:41] <ygk_12345> ryuo: when I execute this command "ip netns add test" it is hanging and never completes . moreover when I list namespaces, it is throwing this error
[08:41] <ygk_12345> ryuo: Error: Peer netns reference is invalid. it is on ubuntu 18
[08:41] <blackflow> nils_: yes stable. for example the 4.19 fs corruption bug that was found and fixed several point releases later.
[08:42] <blackflow> nils_: 4.14 was so bad, it bacame usable only with .10 or sometime later.
[08:43] <blackflow> nils_: but eh, if you're interested in this convo, we could switch it to #ubuntu-discuss. ;)
[08:43] <ryuo> ygk_12345: what do you see here: /var/run/netns
[08:44] <ygk_12345> ryuo: i can see the namesapces created there, but when I do this "ip netns exec test ip a" it is showing this "setting the network namespac"e "test" failed: Invalid argument
[08:45] <ryuo> ygk_12345: it sounds like it wasn't created successfully.
[08:45] <ygk_12345> ryuo: and the file permissions are empty on each namespace in /var/run/netns
[08:45] <ygk_12345> ryuo: ys
[08:45] <ygk_12345> ryuo: yes
[08:46] <ygk_12345> ryuo: "----------  1 root root    0 Apr  4 04:20 test"
[08:46] <ryuo> ygk_12345: strange. here the file is 0644.
[08:47] <ryuo> ygk_12345: you can try deleting it and starting over.
[08:47] <ryuo> ygk_12345: ip netns delete
[08:47] <ygk_12345> ryuo: but still it is hangning while creating
[08:47] <ryuo> are you using the official kernel?
[08:48] <ygk_12345> ryuo: yes "Linux b1v 4.15.0-45-generic #48-Ubuntu SMP Tue Jan 29 16:28:13 UTC 2019 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux"
[08:48] <ryuo> hm. there's newer kernels available. perhaps try that?
[08:48] <ryuo> though i'm stumped why it fails. it's working here.
[08:48] <jfds> what kernel should I select?
[08:49] <ryuo> jfds: ...?
[08:49] <jfds> during install, what kernel
[08:51] <jfds> generic, virtual, extra-virtual, 5?
[08:51] <ryuo> generic if you don't know the difference.
[08:51] <jfds> how can I know the difference if there is no explanation?
[08:52] <ryuo> experience with Ubuntu. those other kernels are for specialized environments.
[08:52] <ryuo> must be a server install...
[08:55] <ygk_12345> is there anyone here who can help me with network namespaces
[09:06] <tomreyn> howardg: unfortunately the only way seem to be to parse the stederr output
[09:07] <ygk_12345> is there anyone here who can help me with network namespaces
[09:08] <lotuspsychje> !patience | ygk_12345
[09:18] <lotuspsychje> ygk_12345: the best way to get your issue solved, is post your question (all in one line) with all details; ubuntu version, kernel,..once in a while
[09:20] <ygk_12345> lotuspsychje: it is ubuntu 18 , iproute2 pkg
[09:22] <ygk_12345> Linux b1v 4.15.0-45-generic #48-Ubuntu SMP Tue Jan 29 16:28:13 UTC 2019 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[09:22] <ygk_12345> lotuspsychje: waiting ona network namespace experts here :)
[09:23] <lotuspsychje> ygk_12345: while you wait, update your system :p
[09:23] <ygk_12345> lotuspsychje: we have installed openstack on it. so cant take that risk
[09:23] <tomreyn> !yy.mm | ygk_12345
[09:24] <lotuspsychje> ygk_12345: holding back updates is a security risk..but your the boss of your system
[09:24] <ygk_12345> lotuspsychje: no I have a boss over me :)
[09:30] <lotuspsychje> ygk_12345: the problem is, if a volunteer helps you here, how can we be sure updates doesnt fix your current issue?
[09:31] <ygk_12345> lotuspsychje: no idea
[09:32] <lotuspsychje> exactly
[09:32] <ygk_12345> any one from Canonical here ?
[09:32] <lotuspsychje> ygk_12345: do you pay for advantage?
[09:33] <ygk_12345> lotuspsychje: we use opensource
[09:35] <guiver_d> ygk_12345: Ubuntu Advantage includes paid support - https://buy.ubuntu.com/ ; this room is volunteers  (in free time/breaks if Canonical staff)
[09:35] <ygk_12345> guiver_d: ok
[09:36] <ygk_12345> i have taken a strace and it stops at a point where the command hangs
[09:44] <ygk_12345> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntukylin/+bug/1823146
[10:01] <ygk_12345> anyone here who can helpme with this https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntukylin/+bug/1823146
[10:06] <ygk_12345> any networking guys here around ?
[10:07] <tomreyn> ygk_12345: i suggest upgrading the kernel, doesn't have to be on a production system, but on a clone. also use "ubuntu-bug linux" to add log file to your bug report.
[10:08] <tomreyn> ygk_12345: actually, use "sudo apport-collect 1823146"
[10:08] <tomreyn> (but you may need to reassign the bug to linux beforehand)
[10:09] <ygk_12345> tomreyn: what does this command do ?
[10:09] <tomreyn> collect relevant logs / system information
[10:09] <tomreyn> see it's man page for more details
[10:09] <Mead> ygk_12345 I am a networking guy
[10:10] <tomreyn> ygk has questions about network namespaces, not networking
[10:11] <Mead> and I thought it was my time to shine
[10:11] <tomreyn> sorry to disappoint ;)
[10:11] <SimonNL> your time will come.
[10:12] <RunawaySheld123> Hello
[10:12] <Mead> Howdy
[10:12] <Sandy> hi
[10:13] <Sandy> i crashed my lubuntu 16.10 with update to 18.10
[10:13] <Sandy> now it boots in rescue mode
[10:13] <Sandy> how can I restore back 16.10 kernnel
[10:14] <Sandy> can anyone help
[10:15] <ygk_12345> tomreyn: how to reassign it to linux ?
[10:15] <Sandy> want to rollback to 16.10 version
[10:16] <jeremy31> Sandy, likely impossible to go back to 16.10 when it isn't supported anymore
[10:16] <Sandy> any ideas
[10:16] <Sandy> anyone
[10:17] <Sandy> i think there are options to rollback to previous kernnel
[10:18] <Sandy> like in ubuntu we can hold shift key and select the kernnel
[10:20] <jdarnley> Can someone help me diagnose what's gone wrong when trying to install from the 18.04.2 live server disk?
[10:20] <ckopn> ssh host key changed, how to add it by force?
[10:20] <tomreyn> !16.10 | Sandy
[10:20] <ygk_12345> any network namespaces expert here ?
[10:20] <ckopn> i got RSA host key for host134 has changed and you have requested strict checking.
[10:21] <guiver_d> Sandy: you do release 16.10's upgrade path was to 17.04, then 17.10 then 18.04 - only LTS has the option to jump to the next LTS release (ie. 16.04 can go to 18.04)
[10:22] <guiver_d> jdarnley: I'd firstly just validate your install media - have you done that?
[10:22] <jdarnley> The short log isn't very helpful.  Last line is "removing previous storage devices".
[10:22] <jdarnley> No, I just wrote the image to USB but I can probably do that
[10:26] <tomreyn> ygk_12345: i reassigned your report to Ubuntu Linux, and the Linux kernel. you can now use apport-collect to provide more information. chances are that someone triaging your bug report would aks you to re-test this with the latest supported ubuntu kernel (patch level). it may help to test it on the !HWE kernel or a recent !mainline kernel, too.
[10:26] <ygk_12345> tomreyn: ok thanks
[10:28] <jfds> why doesn't ubuntu have a desktop kernel?
[10:28] <tomreyn> !discuss | jfds
[10:28] <jfds> also, some sensible firmware packaging
[10:30] <tomreyn> jdarnley: verify botht he downloaded ISO file and the write of that to the storage
[10:30] <tomreyn> the installer media / storage, that is
[10:31] <tomreyn> jdarnley: if you have a secific issue while using the installer, also diuscuss this
[10:33] <xwy> How can I install xfce
[10:34] <tomreyn> xwy: sudo apt update && sudo apt install xfce
[10:34] <tomreyn> xwy: sudo apt update && sudo apt install xfce4
[10:34] <tomreyn> ^ this rather
[10:36] <tomreyn> ckopn: re-read the full message, it tells you what you need to do
[10:39] <ckopn> tomreyn: yes  i removed the host key ,and ip, but i think there are forcing arguments for that
[10:40] <jdarnley> iso verified fine but that isn't surprising given I used the torrent
[10:41] <tomreyn> ckopn: yes, i think so, too, but don't recall the exact option. do you know what a man page is, and if so, have you tried reading up on it?
[10:41] <jdarnley> My "specific" issue with the installer is a load of python error backtrace
[10:41] <jdarnley> I think a command failed to run
[10:41] <jdarnley> maybe "modprobe --use-blacklist bcache"
[10:42] <tomreyn> jdarnley: when during your installation did it happen? what was the error message, if any?
[10:43] <tomreyn> also consider posting your log, which should be in /var/log/installer or similar
[10:43] <tomreyn> you can cat it and pipe that into    nc termbin.com 9999
[10:44] <jdarnley> It happened just after I selected the partition setup (whole disk, no lvm)
[10:45] <jdarnley> I saw the "enter hostname" screen for a moment then it showed me the error log
[10:45] <ckopn> tomreyn: yes, it has parameter -o and many commands
[10:47] <tomreyn> ckopn: that's right, now look if you can spot the very option to use. those are documented in ssh_config(5)
[10:48] <jdarnley> The head N bytes of the usb device match the sha256sum of the image
[10:48] <ph88> why are all my repositories disabled after dist update ?
[10:49] <tomreyn> jdarnley: you can file a bug report here, be sure to attach your log file https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/subiquity/+filebug
[10:49] <tomreyn> ph88: they aren't, just that ones which aren't supported
[10:49] <jdarnley> > One account to log in to everything on Ubuntu
[10:50] <jdarnley> screw that
[10:50] <tomreyn> ph88: i assumed you mean "do-release upgrade"
[10:50] <ph88> not sure what i did back then
[10:50] <ph88> something like that
[10:51] <tomreyn> ph88: does "apt-get update && apt policy" report that no reposiotires are configured?
[10:51] <uzee> Hi, I'm trying to setup automated desktop installs (ubuntu 18.04) using kickstart and later configuration with ansible. I have it working but am trying to figure out a simple solution for different users to be added on each machine. We use kerberos and I can setup kerberos accounts via ansible but each machine will have a different user, so trying to think of a way to do this in an automated way, eitherinter-active or otherwise, any ideas?
[10:53] <tomreyn> uzee: MAC address would be the usual way to bind it to 'hardware'
[10:53] <tomreyn> uzee: MAC address would be the usual way to bind it to 'hardware'
[10:53] <tomreyn> you also have /etc/machine-id but i don't think this survives a reinstall
[10:54] <uzee> tomreyn: thanks but I don't understand your suggestion with reference to adding users...? am I missing something obvious?
[10:55] <ph88> tomreyn, doesn't look like it
[10:55] <ph88> i already modified the source list and uncomment
[10:55] <tomreyn> uzee: i understand that you're trying to deploy different user accounts to specific systems. so you'll need a mapping between a unique user identifier and a unique system installation or hardware.
[10:56] <uzee> tomreyn: thanks I think now I understand about 10% of your suggestion :)
[10:56] <tomreyn> ph88: so i guess we can no longer work out whether there is or was an issue then.
[10:56] <ph88> yes
[10:58] <uzee> but in our situation, we dont have all users on linux so if you're suggesting in terms of setting up a mapping list of some sort and then using it post-install to add accounts, that wouldn't work in our scenario. Some of our users would be new and would need it right after they join the organization
[10:58] <tomreyn> uzee: i have limited experience with system configuration deployment with ansible, so i can only recommend to check their documentation on existing solutions for this puepose. most likely such do exist. there's also #ansible here on freenode, i think.
[10:59] <tomreyn> uzee: MAC addresses are npt OS dependant.
[10:59] <bhuddah> uzee: do you have a need to pair up computers and users? it's a bit of a strange requirement i feel.
[10:59] <bhuddah> you shouldn't bet on mac addresses being unique either.
[11:00] <tomreyn> bhuddah has a point there, or two.
[11:00] <uzee> so, what I'm trying to figure out is lets say we have john, kate and bob that need ubuntu desktops. I can provision the machines with kickstart and then packages via ansible including kerberos setup. but obviiously i can't add all 3 accounts to all machines. Also, setting up a different config for each user would be counter-productive
[11:01] <bhuddah> uzee: usually you would have a central file server with the user directory and a AAA server to have their account and password.
[11:01] <uzee> Hence trying to see if there's a way to have something lets say interactive which pops up after the packages install/config is completed to say enter the user account you want to add... or something like that
[11:02] <uzee> bhuddah: yes, these are personal laptops/desktops that the organization hands out to users and they are normally named including a part of their userid in the machine-name
[11:02] <uzee> by personal, i mean for their office
[11:03] <bhuddah> uzee: and you do not need to sync their files to a server and make backups and so on?
[11:04] <uzee> and yes, we have all our accounts in ldap/kerberos so a central place is there, but the majority of machines are windows which are handled via sccm and AD separately
[11:04] <bhuddah> i'm sure you can have ubuntu users sign in via AD
[11:04] <uzee> bhuddah: no need to sync files or anything, backups are done through a separate tool
[11:05] <tomreyn> !info sssd
[11:05] <bhuddah> i once did AD/kerberos integration in RHEL and that was pretty easy.
[11:05] <uzee> we don't need to using AD, besides, whether its AD or kerberos, the problem I'm trying to solve is not how to authenticate, but rather how to automate a process where an account can be added post install
[11:07] <tomreyn> "adduser username" ;-)
[11:07] <tomreyn> it can make sense to have both a specific local user account and additional network based authentication.
[11:08] <uzee> In case I haven't been able to explain properly, after the imaging and configuration is done, i can very easily run a command either directly (useradd) or via ansible to add a specific kerberos user. Thats already working and tested. What I was hoping to do was mainly for our help desk people so once imaging and config is done, something pops up as a post script or the like and they can supply the userid...
[11:09] <uzee> maybe its too much trouble for a trivial thing that can be achieved by running one extra command... but i just thought to ask
[11:09] <uzee> tomreyn: haha, absolutely, thats what i wrote above, maybe I'm just over-complicating it
[11:12] <bhuddah> maybe you can use "dialog" to open a dialog box for input? i don't know if that's possible in post...
[11:15] <tomreyn> uzee: let's move to #ubuntu-discuss if you'd like to continue (no problem if not ;-) ).
[11:19] <jdarnley> Why will the installer not drop me to a shell when I select that option?
[11:19] <qwebirc52353> Hello
[11:20] <tomreyn> jdarnley: the one and only ubuntu installer of the one and only ubuntu version ever released?
[11:20] <tomreyn> hi qwebirc52353
[11:20] <jdarnley> 18.04 still
[11:21] <jdarnley> 18.04.2 server live install
[11:21] <tomreyn> oh, we talked before, sorry.
[11:22] <qwebirc52353> I recently followed instructions to download Transmission on the Ubuntu documentation page. I'm new to Linux (yesterday) and I'm not sure what I downloaded.
[11:22] <jdarnley> yeah, I bet this channel has a massive turnover rate
[11:22] <tomreyn> you can press ctrl-alt-f3 to get y shell
[11:22] <lotuspsychje> qwebirc52353: transmission is installed by default on ubuntu
[11:23] <tomreyn> qwebirc52353: do you still have the web address / URL of the documentation you followed?
[11:24] <qwebirc52353> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/TransmissionHowTo#Quit_the_daemon
[11:25] <qwebirc52353> I just followed the instructions for:  Add Transmission PPA Repository.
[11:25] <tomreyn> !ppa | qwebirc52353
[11:25] <tomreyn> note the warning
[11:26] <lotuspsychje> qwebirc52353: also, before downloading software check if you already have it
[11:26] <qwebirc52353> Is there a way to uninstall it?
[11:26] <tomreyn> ideally just use the transmission package which comes with ubuntu
[11:26] <tomreyn> !ppa-purge | qwebirc52353
[11:27] <qwebirc52353> ok
[11:27] <qwebirc52353> Thank you
[11:27] <tomreyn> qwebirc52353: apparently you were using the transmission web interface, though. i am not sure whether the packages in ubuntu provide this in addition ot the standard user interface.
[11:28] <tomreyn> actually yes, those are available in ubuntu itself, too
[11:28] <qwebirc52353> I've since downloaded the regular verison from the Pop!_Shop as I'm using Pop!_OS.
[11:29] <tomreyn> we only support ubuntu and it's official !flavors here, can't support you then, i'm afraid.
[11:29] <tomreyn> there is ##linux, though
[11:30] <qwebirc52353>  ok i'll check there,  thanks for all your help
[11:30] <tomreyn> you're welcome, and come back when you run ubuntu!
[11:30] <qwebirc52353> will do
[11:34] <jdarnley> I've put the install disk into a usb2 port and it seems to be working now.
[11:39] <uzee> tomreyn: sorry was away for a bit, yes I don't mind moving to ubuntu-discuss at all, in fact I'm thinking of putting this on #ansible as well...
[11:48] <J_Darnley> On a second observation, turning off fast boot and using usb3 also worked on another one.
[12:40] <llllllllll187-ll> boooo
[12:44] <BluesKaj> Howdy folks
[12:48] <ygk_12345> can someone look into this https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1823146
[12:49] <ygk_12345> is anyone familiar here with network namespaces ?
[12:52] <pragmaticenigma> ygk_12345: Please don't cross post. Since you have submitted a bug please follow that thread and respond to the requests made there. Currently you are being asked to submit additional log files
[13:12] <shangul> Hello. I get timeout when trying to open pypi.org . On the same computer and network I can easily open the website
[13:13] <shangul> Also It's not firefox's problem. Other softwares have the same problem, too.
[13:17] <JimBuntu> shangul, a bit confused... with what program are you having trouble opening the site... since you say you do NOT have the issue using the same computer and network?
[13:17] <shangul> oh I'm sorry
[13:18] <shangul> I meant on the same computer and network and in Windows I don't have this problem.
[13:18] <JimBuntu> shangul, when you boot with Windows... are you using the exact same DNS ?
[13:19] <shangul> I don't know
[13:20] <tomreyn> is your network configuration received from the network or do you have it manually configured, setting an ip address etc. on your won?
[13:20] <tomreyn> *own
[13:21] <shangul> No. there is DHCP
[13:21] <JimBuntu> shangul, I would probably start there... checking the DNS being used... you could also run a few traceroute's. Maybe think if you have any odd routing set up in Ubuntu... 'traceroute' or 'tr'... 'sudo route -n' to see your routing in Ubuntu
[13:22] <JimBuntu> 'cat /etc/hosts' may also show if there are manually set domain routings
[13:22] <ygk_12345> pragmaticenigma: I am collecting apport information from the server now
[13:24] <shangul> JimBuntu, There isn't much in /etc/hosts
[13:24] <tomreyn> shangul: can you run this and tell / show us what it returns?    ping -c1 pypi.org
[13:25] <shangul> -c 1 you meant?
[13:25] <tomreyn> yes
[13:25] <tomreyn> -c1 is the same
[13:25] <shangul> aha
[13:27] <cgundersson> ls
[13:28] <shangul> tomreyn, working fine, 136ms
[13:28] <tomreyn> shangul: which ip address did it resolve it to?
[13:29] <shangul> 151.101.128.223
[13:29] <tomreyn> i'm seeing the same
[13:29] <JimBuntu> please try going to 151.101.64.223
[13:30] <JimBuntu> ah, nevermind, can't use that directly for the web site.
[13:30] <shangul> yes
[13:33] <shangul> How can I change the DNS server Linux uses?
[13:33] <shangul> It's using localhost now
[13:35] <tomreyn> which ubuntu release do you have there? lsb_release -ds
[13:36] <shangul> It's 18.04
[13:39] <leftyfb> shangul: nmcli device show |grep -i dns
[13:39] <leftyfb> that's how you determine what dns server you're using
[13:41] <shangul> leftyfb, Showed the DNS servers I've set on my modem/router
[13:41] <shangul> Windows uses the same, too.
[13:41] <leftyfb> shangul: then those should work
[13:41] <shangul> But I get timeout in Ubuntu and I don't get in Windows
[13:41] <leftyfb> shangul: if you can ping pypi.org and it's getting the right ip, then your DNS is fine
[13:42] <shangul> but what's the problem then?
[13:42] <leftyfb> shangul: a timeout error is not a DNS error
[13:42] <leftyfb> shangul: can you get to any other site with firefox?
[13:42] <cryptodan> you could also use systemd-resolve --status for dns server info
[13:42] <shangul> yes
[13:42] <leftyfb> cryptodan: it's not a DNS issue
[13:43] <leftyfb> shangul: do you have some sort of firewall running on your ubuntu install? Do you have some sort of proxy that you're running on your windows instance that allows you to get to sites you can't normally get to?
[13:44] <shangul> leftyfb, As far as I know, No
[13:44] <shangul> (for both)
[13:44] <leftyfb> shangul: do you have another device you can test right now on the same network?
[13:44] <cryptodan> shangul: what are you using for your dns
[13:44] <leftyfb> shangul: a tablet or smart phone
[13:44] <ygk_12345> tomreyn: how long does it take for the apport command to collect information ?
[13:44] <tomreyn> shangul: you said other applications were also unable to access pypi.org, which ones, what errors do they report?
[13:44] <leftyfb> cryptodan: it's not a DNS issue
[13:44] <cryptodan> leftyfb: hold up
[13:45] <leftyfb> cryptodan: they are able to ping pypi.org and resolve to the correct ip. It's not a DNS issue
[13:45] <shangul> tomreyn, pip. It says timeout
[13:45] <tomreyn> ygk_12345: seconds.
[13:45] <leftyfb> shangul: do you have another device you can test right now on the same network? A tablet or smart phone?
[13:45] <ygk_12345> tomreyn: it is going on from a long time
[13:45] <cryptodan> shangul: can you provide your dns servers
[13:45] <shangul> leftyfb, lemme check
[13:45] <leftyfb> cryptodan: IT'S NOT A DNS ISSUE
[13:45] <shangul> ^
[13:46] <shangul> with small letters
[13:46] <cryptodan> id like to confirm by using nslookup sitename hisdnsservers
[13:46] <leftyfb> cryptodan: you don't need to confirm anything. We've already confirmed it. Please stop.
[13:46] <tomreyn> ygk_12345: maybe cancel and run it again. maybe it's a firewalling issue?
[13:47] <ledeni> shangul: disable ip6 for your network and try then
[13:48] <leftyfb> ledeni: dns resolves to an ipv4. I don't think it's an ipv6 issue
[13:49] <tomreyn> firefox would prefer ipv6, though, IIRC.
[13:50] <cryptodan> until the dns server ip's are provided we cant determine anything oh well
[13:50] <tomreyn> shangul: does this report errors?   ping6 -c1 pypi.org
[13:51] <leftyfb> cryptodan: you can't. We can. We already verified it's not a DNS issue. Please stop
[13:51] <cryptodan> so did you run nslookup sitename.com someotherdnsserver to determine
[13:52] <leftyfb> cryptodan: please stop
[13:52] <cryptodan> but did you?
[13:52] <leftyfb> [09:28:53] <tomreyn> shangul: which ip address did it resolve it to?
[13:52] <leftyfb> [09:29:04] <shangul> 151.101.128.223
[13:53] <leftyfb> ^^ this proves DNS is working fine
[13:53] <leftyfb> once DNS resolves, DNS is not relevant
[13:54] <leftyfb> shangul: any luck with that other device?
[13:54] <cryptodan> other ips associated with the domain http://dpaste.com/2HM28X1
[13:54] <shangul> leftyfb, Still trying. My internet connection is not very stable
[13:55] <leftyfb> cryptodan: We are done troubleshooting DNS.
[13:56] <tomreyn> Quttera has pypi.org blacklisted.
[13:57] <leftyfb> tomreyn: Quttera?
[13:58] <leftyfb> tomreyn: so my previous inkling about them running some sort of proxy or something on Windows to get around blocked sites was true?
[13:59] <tomreyn> maybe, i'm not sure which products use their data
[13:59] <tomreyn> but it's one of the more common "threat intelligence" data providers
[14:05] <shangul> leftyfb, I couldn't load it with my Nokia. Now I should contact my ISP?
[14:06] <shangul> I just opened the website with tor
[14:06] <leftyfb> shangul: Are you sure you're not running a VPN or proxy or tor or something on your Windows install that gets around these blocks?
[14:06] <shangul> leftyfb, I don't remember running such things. But I can check.
[14:07] <leftyfb> shangul: I would check. It seems like it's blocked but you're working around it on Windows. Or maybe the timing lined up with the last time you checked on Windows where it wasn't being blocked
[14:08] <hadipeyrow> Hello dear friends. I have a serious problem with pip. I can't install packages with pip. please help me! Operating System: GNU/Linux, Distro: Trisquel, python versions: python3 = 3.5.2, python2 = 2.7.12  Error Codes available in here: https://gitlab.com/gnulinuxtrisquel/piperror/raw/master/pip_erorr  Thanks
[14:08] <leftyfb> hadipeyrow: We only support Ubuntu here
[14:08] <hadipeyrow> leftyfb, Ok, Thanks...
[14:09] <leftyfb> hadipeyrow: Install Ubuntu and we can help. Though it'll probably just work with Ubuntu to begin with
[14:13] <amosbird> Hi, how can I dump the current screen configuration to xrandr commands?
[14:13] <onio1> Hi I am trying to use libudev in C code to open up a particular FTDI usb to serial converter cable. I found this example http://www.signal11.us/oss/udev/ but code seems to be failing at the following line dev = udev_device_get_parent_with_subsystem_devtype
[14:14] <onio1> running on Ubuntu 18.04
[14:15] <leftyfb> onio1: maybe try a C development channel?
[14:16] <onio1> cool leftyfb thanks
[14:18] <ygk_12345> tomreyn: the apport is still running froma long time eventhough I cancelled it and re launched it
[14:29] <CyberManifest> I'm so confused, can someone please help me: http://dpaste.com/1NQ618Y http://dpaste.com/1GZ4GS9
[14:29] <amosbird> can you guys run :     perf stat -C 0 -a uncore_imc_0/cas_count_read/,uncore_imc_0/cas_count_write/ -I 1000       without an error?
[14:29] <amosbird> it's listed in the man perf list manual
[14:32] <joabe> bom dia pessoal meu firefox parou de funcionar alguem sabe como resolver
[14:34] <Ool> !pt
[14:34] <teward> bleh ninja'd xD
[14:35] <tomreyn> ygk_12345: it doesn't print a URL and say that it is waiting to hear from Launchpad about your decision, right?
[14:36] <dedded> ?
[14:37] <dedded> help
[14:37] <lotuspsychje> ask dedded
[14:56] <heller_> hey
[14:56] <heller_> ubuntu 16.04 4.10.0-38-generic
[14:56] <heller_> i seem to have about 3G of unused kernels
[14:58] <heller_> i looked into running apt-get autoremove and it shows much more newer ones, like 4.15.X. Should i just run the autoremove and let it be?
[14:58] <lordcirth__> heller_, autoremove is safe, yeah
[14:58] <JimBuntu> CyberManifest, you don't seem to have compaudit... and those directories/files don't appear to be writable by other users ( except root... which you are now using in the example).
[14:58] <heller_> lordcirth__: but why does it want to remove the newer ones, not old?
[14:58] <lordcirth__> heller_, not sure why you'd have 4.15 in autoremove if you're running 4.15, but maybe you installed hwe and then switched back?
[14:59] <heller_> hwè?
[14:59] <lordcirth__> !hwe
[14:59] <CyberManifest> JimBuntu, to resolve I'd just install compaudit?
[14:59] <heller_> lordcirth__: not that i know of :p
[15:00] <heller_> uptime is 518 days though
[15:00] <ygk_12345> just a gentle reminder for someone to look into https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1823146
[15:00] <lordcirth__> heller_, oh. Don't do that :P update, reboot, then autoremove.
[15:01] <deafboy> Is it just me, or is the apache2 privesc patch still missing from the repo?
[15:01] <tomreyn> running 4.10, not 4.15
[15:01] <heller_> lordcirth__: ok :D
[15:02] <heller_> lordcirth__: only issue is that i'm runnning out of space because these kernels
[15:02] <heller_> and i cant reboot for now
[15:02] <heller_> any ideas?
[15:02] <tomreyn> deafboy: it's in the works, and an unsupported test build is in the security teams' ppa.
[15:02] <lordcirth__> heller_, like, 0 free space?
[15:03] <lordcirth__> You could update; full-upgrade; then autoremove now
[15:03] <deafboy> tomreyn: awesome, thank you
[15:03] <lordcirth__> And schedule a reboot soon.
[15:05] <CyberManifest> JimBuntu, also compaudit doesn't seem to be available in my repos
[15:05] <CyberManifest> ╭─rkm@Khadas ~
[15:05] <CyberManifest> ╰─➤  apt-cache search compaudit                                             1 ↵
[15:05] <CyberManifest> ╭─rkm@Khadas ~
[15:05] <CyberManifest> ╰─➤
[15:06] <leftyfb> ygk_12345: this is not the place to get Canonical employees to look at your bug. Please just wait until someone does.
[15:06] <tomreyn> CyberManifest: zsh-common. and i think you've been told before that this oh-my-zsh is not supported here
[15:06] <heller_> lordcirth__: less than G
[15:06] <ygk_12345> leftyfb: yes please
[15:06] <tomreyn> !paste | CyberManifest
[15:07] <CyberManifest> tomreyn, when was I told that oh-my-zsh isn't supported here? Do you have a log snap shot of this?
[15:08] <leftyfb> CyberManifest: it's not supported here since it is not available in the Ubuntu repos
[15:08] <tomreyn> CyberManifest: maybe, and maybe i mixed you up with someone else. sorry then.
[15:08] <tomreyn> CyberManifest: but yeah, waht lefty says
[15:09] <leftyfb> CyberManifest: compaudit it part of the zsh-common package
[15:11] <CyberManifest> alright, thank you all, I'll ask in #zsh, with this rendition of Ubuntu for an ARM SBC doesn't seem many things are included in the repos :(
[15:16] <tomreyn> CyberManifest: turns out i indeed mixed you up there, apologies.
[15:16] <CyberManifest> tomreyn, no worries, I could understand the frustration of having to deal with the same issue.
[15:17] <tomreyn> thanks
[15:35] <Zuvy> I have been attempting to join Launchpad and followed the instructions regarding creating an openPGP dealio and uploading the finderpring. I recieves an email in return with instructions in pgp in my enigma installed thunderbird but still have no idea how to decrypt it to follow the instructions
[15:35] <Zuvy> Any help would be grand!
[15:39] <tomreyn> Zuvy: the #launchpad irc channel's /topic explains how to get support with launchpad. for thunderbird / enigmail questions, you can ask here or in #enigmail, i'd say.
[15:41] <tomreyn> enigmail would normally offer to decrypt e-mail which was received and is encrypted to a private key gpg knows about.
[15:44] <Black> hello
[15:44] <lotuspsychje> welcome Black
[15:44] <Black> I need help 4 the ubuntu gnome installation
[15:44] <fyf> welcome
[15:45] <lotuspsychje> elaborate your issue please Black
[15:45] <Black> ok it gives me an errror on my other PC
[15:46] <Black> after this it goes in black screen and gives me a million of errror messages
[15:47] <lotuspsychje> Black: lets start from the beginning, wich ubuntu version are you trying to install?
[15:47] <Black> the last ubuntu gnome version
[15:48] <lotuspsychje> Black: ubuntu-gnome 16.04? or do you mean ubuntu-desktop 18.04?
[15:48] <chisaa> hello！
[15:48] <Black> ubuntu gnome 16.04
[15:49] <lotuspsychje> Black: so you try to install from usb stick at boot, then whats happening please?
[15:50] <Black> i try with dvd-r
[15:50] <lotuspsychje> Black: ok good, at wich point does your install stuck?
[15:50] <Black> when i try to setup my settings and update the sistem
[15:50] <tomreyn> hi chisaa
[15:51] <lotuspsychje> Black: so you succesfully installed ubuntu?
[15:51] <Black> not at all
[15:52] <Black> cause when it updates he crashes misteriously
[15:52] <lotuspsychje> Black: updates from the setup?
[15:52] <CyberManifest> leftyfb, tomreyn, sorry if I'm bothering or if I'm still in the wrong place, but #zsh tells me it's an issue with "sudo" not being implamented properly by my distribution and I think refrences http://dpaste.com/0JNSQA5 they told me to say that security wasn't being done properly and wished me good luck. As the user I feel I'm being caught between two ideologies or something.
[15:52] <Black> after setupping settings
[15:52] <Zuverink> Noob question, off topic, taboo, I get it but simply, how do I resgister my nick on freenode?
[15:52] <Zuverink> An I apologize profusely
[15:53] <lotuspsychje> Black: after the last settings like username, password?
[15:53] <leftyfb> !register | Zuverink
[15:53] <Black> no when i setup my data and hour
[15:53] <Zuverink> leftyfb, ty
[15:53] <leftyfb> Zuverink: future reference, these types of questions can go into #freenode
[15:53] <Black> date sorry
[15:54] <Black> Italian way to say it
 You shouldn't use interactive shell, or any program with executable configuration, while your HOME points to something not owned by your user. That's the big issue and it's with sudo, not zsh, not omz, not any other shell or application you launch. <CcxWrk> You can go shout "you are doing security wrong" at Ubuntu. Good luck.
[15:54] <lotuspsychje> Black: so you never get to see the partitioning in setup correct?
[15:55] <Black> exactly
[15:55] <lotuspsychje> Black: do you singleboot ubuntu or dualboot? uefi system?
[15:56] <Black> singleboot
[15:56] <Black> no other os
[15:56] <lotuspsychje> Black: wich Os did work on your pc before installing ubuntu?
[15:56] <Black> windows 10
[15:56] <Black> he was working bad
[15:56] <lotuspsychje> Black: did you change uefi settings?
[15:57] <Black> yes 4 open ubunt from the DVD
[15:57] <lotuspsychje> Black: 4 open?
[15:57] <Black> 4 start ubunt from dvd
[15:57] <Black> sorry
[15:57] <Eickmeyer> !bug | CyberManifest
[15:58] <lotuspsychje> Black: try doublecheck your bios if: secureboot=OFF fastboot=OFF please?
[15:58] <Black> ok give me 5/10 mins
[15:58] <CyberManifest> Eickmeyer, thanks, but which package would I mention ? isn't sudo not a package ?
[16:00] <Eickmeyer> CyberManifest: sudo is a package. Also, once filed, add zsh to the bug since it could be a bug in zsh's package as well.
[16:01] <Eickmeyer> Not necessarily zsh itself, but the packaging.
[16:02] <Eickmeyer> If you don't know how to do that, come back here with the bug number (say "Eickmeyer: bug {number}" and I'll add zsh.
[16:03] <Black> ok there is fast boot on normal boot(no other selectoin available) and secure boot is on other OS (no other selection available)
[16:03] <CyberManifest> Eickmeyer, do I have to install ubuntu-bug manually ? http://dpaste.com/1QRY0FD
[16:03] <lotuspsychje> Black: change secure boot off please, boot legacy not uefi
[16:04] <Eickmeyer> CyberManifest: Use bash for this, please.
[16:04] <Eickmeyer> (it's a bash script)
[16:05] <Black> I can't
[16:05] <lotuspsychje> Black: why?
[16:05] <Black> idk why but is not an option
[16:05] <Eickmeyer> lotuspsychje: Not all UEFI's support legacy mode, sadly.
[16:05] <Black> do ypu wnat the mb model?
[16:05] <Black> want*
[16:06] <lotuspsychje> Black: some uefi options might need a reboot before
[16:06] <lotuspsychje> active
[16:06] <CyberManifest> Eickmeyer, so install it then: http://dpaste.com/3EYJDGP
[16:06] <Black> ok
[16:06] <lotuspsychje> Black: wich model is this?
[16:06] <Eickmeyer> CyberManifest: Yes.
[16:06] <Black> on th option there is only on secure boot the other os option and the uefi
[16:07] <Eickmeyer> Should be installed by default, I don't know why it's not unless it was removed, CyberManifest
[16:07] <Black> i put it on other os
[16:07] <Black> give me a min and i say to you what model is
[16:09] <CyberManifest> Eickmeyer, you mentioned to add zsh to the bug, what do I do from here: http://dpaste.com/26TKMKS ?
[16:10] <Eickmeyer> CyberManifest: No, you'll do it from the launchpad page that opens in your browser.
[16:10] <CyberManifest> Eickmeyer this Ubuntu implementation was from Khadas an ARM SBC maker
[16:11] <CyberManifest> Eickmeyer, alright, but from that screen what do I do just choose "S: Send report" ?
[16:11] <Eickmeyer> Yes.
[16:11] <Black> ok is an asus H110-I/M32CD4DP_M8 mini atx
[16:12] <tomreyn> CyberManifest: you're not running ubuntu, then there's probably not much use in reporting a bug. apport will just tell you the same.
[16:12] <tomreyn> i mean ubuntu-bug
[16:15] <Eickmeyer> CyberManifest, tomreyn is right. You are running an unsupported, custom version of Ubuntu. You need to contact khadas about this. We do not support your build here.
[16:16]  * Eickmeyer just did the research
[16:18] <tomreyn> !who | Black
[16:18] <lotuspsychje> Black: the manual doesnt seems to show uefi settings
[16:18] <CyberManifest> Eickmeyer, would I mark it as a security vulnerability ?
[16:19] <Black> !lotuspsychje what can i do?
[16:19] <Eickmeyer> CyberManifest: As I already stated, your custom build of Ubuntu will generate a report and get marked as invalid.
[16:19] <CyberManifest> Eickmeyer, tomreyn either of yall have a support channel for Khadas?
[16:19] <lotuspsychje> Black: try change uefi settings, cause i assume this is blocking your partitioning ate setup
[16:19] <Eickmeyer> CyberManifest: Start at khadas.com.
[16:19] <Black> !who lotuspsychje what can I do?
[16:20] <Black> ok :)
[16:20] <leftyfb> CyberManifest: your OS is unsupported here. Try it on Ubuntu proper and we might be able to help. Or better yet, it'll probably just work
[16:20] <lotuspsychje> Black: you can ask in ##hardware if you like if you need the help on your motherboard
[16:20] <Black> !lotuspsychje ok I try
[16:20] <Black> thanks and bye :)
[16:20] <CyberManifest> Eickmeyer, it seemed to go through... https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/sudo/+bug/1823202
[16:21] <jorian> hello, I am testing out 19.04 with wayland.  I'm running into some strange behavior and wanted to see if anyone else has seen this.  I have two displays hooked into a tb16 thunderbolt dock.  When I open the display settings I do no have any options to arrange the monitors.  All I can see are just settings for orientation down to scale.
[16:21] <tomreyn> CyberManifest: there is also https://github.com/khadas/
[16:21] <CyberManifest> said it would be marked private
[16:21] <leftyfb> CyberManifest: you should delete that bug since it's probably not relevant to Ubuntu
[16:21] <lotuspsychje> jorian: join #ubuntu+1 please
[16:21] <Eickmeyer> CyberManifest: It's going to get marked as invalid as soon as the security permissions are dropped.
[16:21] <leftyfb> CyberManifest: go test with Ubuntu and then see if you get the same issue. If you do, then continue with your report
[16:22] <Zuverink> Whats the best mail client program for Gnome so as the user can read open pgp mail  Thunderbird/enigmail is not working or set up has confused me, just want easy set up? Thanks in advance. Note, this will not be my default mailer.
[16:22] <CyberManifest> leftyfb, I'll let the moderators do that, since it might be relevant, and since I've wasted enough time on something I'm told isn't supported.
[16:22] <leftyfb> CyberManifest: ah right, waste the developers time. Sounds productive.
[16:22] <Eickmeyer> CyberManifest: You probably wouldn't have wasted as much time if you had told us what you were running to begin with.
[16:22] <tomreyn> Zuverink: it wont get easier than that.
[16:23] <jorian> @lotuspsychje thanks, didn't realize there was a seperate channel for that
[16:23] <lotuspsychje> Zuverink: geary is clean & easy
[16:23] <CyberManifest> tomreyn, that's not an IRC channel, I may never get a response or it may take more time than before I get fed up and switch to a non Ubuntu/Debian distribution. or Another device for that matter. Maybe even Windows by that point.
[16:23] <CyberManifest> Eickmeyer, check the logs, I did tell
[16:24] <Zuverink> lotuspsychje, Geary does openpgp?
[16:24] <cryptodan> Zuverink: i use claws-mail
[16:24] <lotuspsychje> Zuverink: cant confirm that
[16:25] <CyberManifest> [10:11:50] <CyberManifest> alright, thank you all, I'll ask in #zsh, with this rendition of Ubuntu for an ARM SBC doesn't seem many things are included in the repos :(
[16:26] <tomreyn> CyberManifest: "support channel" can mean maany things, such as a github issue tracker,. i wasn't aware you're looking for an irc channel
[16:26] <Eickmeyer> CyberManifest: You didn't mention where it was acquired or that it was custom made for your hardware.
[16:26] <CyberManifest> tomreyn, my apologies for not being clear in regards to "channel"
[16:27] <CyberManifest> Eickmeyer, " rendition of Ubuntu for an ARM SBC"
[16:27] <tomreyn> CyberManifest: no worries there.
[16:27] <Eickmeyer> CyberManifest: Yes, that was my first clue, but that was only about half-way into the process
[16:27] <Eickmeyer> Either way, it's unsupported here.
[16:28] <tomreyn> CyberManifest: as this channel states, it is just for ubuntu support. what you run is not ubuntu. good luck getting support elsewhere until you run ubuntu, when we'll happily support you here.
[16:31] <CyberManifest> [10:57:35] <Eickmeyer> !bug | CyberManifest
[16:31] <CyberManifest> [10:57:35] <ubottu> CyberManifest: If you find a bug in Ubuntu or any of its derivatives, please report it using the command « ubuntu-bug <package> » - See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ReportingBugs for other ways to report bugs. AFTER [10:11:50] <CyberManifest> alright, thank you all, I'll ask in #zsh, with this rendition of Ubuntu for an ARM SBC doesn't seem many things are included in the repos :
[16:31] <CyberManifest> ( not in the middle of the process
[16:32] <Zuverink> lotuspsychje, cryptodan Geary is plan and basic, no OpenPGP, Which version of Claws, the Claws-Mail or the Claws_Moon?
[16:32] <cryptodan> Zuverink: claws-mail its in the repos
[16:34] <cryptodan> Zuverink: run "sudo apt install claws-mail*"
[16:34] <CyberManifest> tomreyn, this IS an Ubuntu "derivative" which is clearly stated in ubottu's statement of: " If you find a bug in Ubuntu or any of its derivatives..."
[16:34] <CyberManifest> Client: HexChat 2.14.1 • OS: Ubuntu "bionic" 18.04 • Memory: Physical: 2.9 GiB Total (1.4 GiB Free) Swap: 1.4 GiB Total (1.4 GiB Free) • Storage: 11.4 GB / 64.9 GB (53.5 GB Free) • Uptime: 3h 8m 16s
[16:35] <Zuverink> cryptodan, do you know the differences, bot say 3.32, is one maybe a paort. Im looking for ease of use. Last time I used S-C as it ws then called I felt like I was back at the University of Washington using the of Pine Client. I'll Check both  and report back to you. Your awesome, thanks for the help.
[16:35] <tomreyn> please stop pasting into the channel, thanks.
[16:36] <cryptodan> Zuverink: claws-mail is very easy
[16:43] <hggdh> CyberManifest: please /join #ubuntu-discuss so that I can expand on Ubuntu and derivatives
[16:44] <CyberManifest> hggdh, I have to go eat now with my father, can I do such once I return ?
[16:45] <hggdh> CyberManifest: yes
[16:58] <Zuverink> cryptodan, I cannot get claws to allow me to log into my gmail account, it gives many errors https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/bwjn3dXP7x/
[16:58] <netkam2> can I record command line only with ffmpg anyone know (I dont have x installed)
[16:59] <cryptodan> Zuverink: youll need to allow less secure apps in gmail for it to work
[16:59] <netkam2> trying to record a screengrab
[17:00] <brlin> netkam2: Check out asciinema
[17:01] <cryptodan> Zuverink: https://myaccount.google.com/security thats where you enable less secure apps
[17:01] <netkam2> brlin: aha
[17:01] <netkam2> +1
[17:01] <brlin> `sudo snap install --classic asciinema`
[17:01] <netkam2> ..er im on centos7
[17:02] <netkam2> i got the yum install instructions
[17:02] <brlin> netkam2: Well you're on #ubuntu
[17:03] <netkam2> yeah... I figured the level of geekery here would be able to answer my question
[17:03] <Zuverink> cryptodan, and how  mind you do I go about doing that. Or should I go RTFM? Im admitting my sin to uo, Ive been up 42 hours and and just trying to get this done to beable to read a damn openpgp email from my boss, so that I can go die in bed of excessive sleep deprivition, Your my hero do, quick and dirty, oh, dang, you sent it. my Hero. I owe you many beers.
[17:03] <brlin> Also for recent enough CentOS it is possible to install snap apps: https://docs.snapcraft.io/installing-snap-on-centos/10020
[17:04] <brlin> Zuverink: Cheers!
[17:04] <cryptodan> sleep is more important and email will always be there
[17:20] <achi> hi
[17:22] <brlin> ello
[17:36] <noregret> i'm running 18.04 in a vm, and having trouble with adjusting window size, after some googling, I learnt about restarting the open-vm-tools service which actually makes it work, is there a way around that? ie. not having to restart taht service each time, what is the issue exactly? any ideas?
[17:37] <lordcirth__> noregret, what hypervisor? KVM? Virtualbox?
[17:37] <noregret> lordcirth__: vmware fusion 11
[17:54] <johnfg> hi folks
[17:55] <johnfg> running xubuntu, I need to add PATH in .profile, vs. .bash_profile I'm used to.
[17:56] <johnfg> There's no PATH set, per se, at present, just some shell language if I have a .local/bin, or ~/bin set.
[17:56] <johnfg> Should I just add the paths I want there, within the if/then, or add it like in a .bash_profile?
[18:05] <gaudil> hello everybody
[18:05] <gaudil> I've got a problem wtih ubuntu 18.04 running unity
[18:05] <gaudil> it seems I'm unable to find a way of enabling bluetooth receiving files functionality
[18:06] <gaudil> and idea how to handle this?
[18:06] <gaudil> I cna of course send files from the computer but receiving isn't working
[18:07] <jeremy31> gaudil: install blueman, I think the option is in local service
[18:14] <gaudil> jeremy31: thank you very much it worked!
[18:20] <tim0n3> Hi All
[18:21] <Guest65582> exit
[18:22] <tonyt> i have a vps running centos 7 and when i log in to it via ssh i see this https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/5RdXnTGmZR/ . i have ubuntu 18.04 installed locally. i was wondering does ubuntu keep track of the same thing and does it keep a log of such things some on the OS?
[18:23] <xamithan> all it does is parse the logs,  there is very many programs that do that
[18:24] <tim0n3> when did you start getting the errMessage
[18:24] <tonyt> is there something that i can install on ubuntu for it to detect that?
[18:24] <tonyt> just now
[18:24] <tonyt> nad have been getting the same thing on that vps for several days now
[18:25] <tonyt> *and
[18:25] <pragmaticenigma> !who | tonyt , xamithan , tim0n3
[18:26] <xamithan> tonyt: You can probably find the code in the centos profile and copy it over to your own user profile.  You'll have to figure out where it is though
[18:26] <xamithan> Out of scope for this channel
[18:26] <pragmaticenigma> tonyt: That error message is sent from the remote system, nothing locally tracks the number of failed attempts to a remote host
[18:26] <tonyt> xamithan so ubuntu does not keep track of failed log ons automatcilly?
[18:27] <tonyt> and log it some place?
[18:27] <JimBuntu> tonyt, by default, you can find that information in /var/log/auth.log
[18:27] <xamithan> in the log files yes,  but there isn't any parsing programs without external software
[18:27] <tonyt> ok thanks all. i was just curious
[18:28] <JimBuntu> tonyt, don't be surprised to find high numbers of login attempts, especially if you are using the default port and allow all IPs to try it. Please DO NOT allow passwords and ONLY allow keys or better.
[18:29] <xamithan> And if people don't stop doing that !who thing to me when there is only two/three people talking I'm just going to spam it on everyone
[18:30] <tonyt> JimBuntu ok thanks
[18:39] <CyberManifest> hggdh, I've returned and have joined #ubuntu-discuss as directed
[18:45] <tim0n3> Does anyone here use Ubuntu for firewalling?
[18:49] <gofio> any thoughts on this? https://fosspost.org/analytics/privacy-security-concern-regarding-gnome-software
[18:49] <ayekat> tonyt: possibly - what's your question?
[18:49] <ayekat> tonyt: sorry, wrong nick
[18:49] <johnfg> hi folks
[18:49] <ayekat> ah, they left the channel, that's why
[18:50] <johnfg> I've installed the canon drivers for my imageclass mf4150, but still am not able to print :-(
[18:50] <johnfg> From localhost:631, a test page shows that the job has completed, but nothing has printed.
[18:51] <johnfg> Nothing enlightening in /var/log/cups either.
[18:51] <gofio> is this true? "Additionally, fwupd (upon each checking for updates in GNOME Software) sends your machine ID (hashed), IP address,"
[18:52] <johnfg> http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/K9fB5FgTnd/ is the less than helpful (to me) cups/error_log.
[18:52] <heller_> so guys
[18:52] <heller_> ubuntu 16.04 LTS running with 4.10.x kernel
[18:53] <heller_> autoremove wants to delete kernels newer than 4.10.
[18:53] <heller_> should i just let it?
[18:53] <lordcirth__> heller_, did you not get a chance to reboot yet?
[18:53] <lordcirth__> As I understand it, autoremove will delete kernels that are both not the newest, and not the running kernel.
[18:54] <lordcirth__> For that and other reasons, you *really* need to update, reboot, and then autoremove.
[18:54] <heller_> does it then boot with newer kernel?
[18:54] <heller_> and then autoremove to remove older?
[18:54] <heller_> and yes i've got no chance to reboot yet
[18:54] <heller_> its running something which i cant lose for this month
[18:55] <heller_> but its running out of space perhaps before i can reach it
[18:57] <OerHeks> gofio, no, not ip adress, and the rest is probably truye, but not harmfull at all, you red an old hoax article https://www.reddit.com/r/linux/comments/8c0kk4/a_privacy_security_concern_regarding_gnome/ see the 1st answer
[19:00] <gofio> thing is the ip adress is the number one thing is pushing be back from jumping into ubuntu 18.04 even though so far loving the gnome environment, or however the correct word is. Sorry
[19:00] <lordcirth__> heller_, the autoremove should still be safe.
[19:00] <heller_> so i'll  just go with the autoremove?
[19:00] <gofio> thanks OerHeks, u sure of that :?
[19:00] <lordcirth__> heller_, You just might end up redownloading the latest one when you finally update and reboot
[19:00] <heller_> thats okay
[19:01] <Ben64> heller_: you should switch kernels, 4.10 is no longer supported
[19:01] <lordcirth__> heller_, I'm curious, what takes a month and can't restart
[19:01] <lordcirth__> ?*
[19:01] <lordcirth__> Ben64, he knows, he just hasn't rebooted
[19:01] <heller_> me unable to access it :)
[19:01] <OerHeks> gofio, sure, if you want to see your machine id ( this can be altered):  hostnamectl status
[19:01] <Ben64> 4.10 hasn't been supported in a year
[19:01] <heller_> yeah its running 4.10.0-38-generic
[19:02] <lordcirth__> Ben64, 500+ days uptime, lol
[19:02] <Ben64> you need either 4.4 or 4.15
[19:02] <heller_> need is a strong word here :)
[19:02] <Ben64> no
[19:02] <Ben64> need.
[19:02] <OerHeks> godiand the project needs some id to check for hardware bios updates, it is less than your browser or mediaplayer is sharing with the internets
[19:03] <OerHeks> gofio ^^
[19:04] <heller_> autoremove running
[19:05] <gofio> interesting OerHeks, thanks! Actually I was asking the author of the first article on twitter cuz the funny thing is I read it first in spanish thinking it was original, and then asked about it to the real author on twitter lol : Point being, I guess I'll have to better trust what u just said
[19:05] <gofio> I'm still running on ubuntu 17.10 OerHeks so I have to move to 18.04 asap
[19:06] <OerHeks> gofio, happy to help, please upgrade asap as you miss some critical updates
[19:06] <OerHeks> have fun!
[19:07] <gofio> actually firefox among others OerHeks
[19:08] <gofio> thanks OerHeks  :-)
[19:09] <ioria> gofio, ff is the only thing that get updated
[19:09] <gofio> hope I can move to lubuntu 18.04 without too much of a hassle
[19:09] <gofio> but not for ubuntu 17.10 as far as I know ioria
[19:09] <lordcirth__> gofio, should work, but always have backups
[19:09] <ioria> gofio, the same ff version for every release
[19:10] <gofio> or could not find it, nor I can ask about ubuntu 17.10 here
[19:10] <gofio> anyways if that ip adress thing is not such a big deal I'm moving to 18.04
[19:11] <teward> I thought 17.10 EOL'd?
[19:11] <teward> !17.10
[19:11] <teward> yep, you should upgrade to 18.04 regardless
[19:11] <teward> (17.10 is past end of support0
[19:11] <gofio> I know, that's why wanted to clear up that ip adress thing first
[19:11] <cryptodan> what ip address thing
[19:12] <gofio> or else go back to 14.04
[19:12] <teward> gofio: ... which dies this month.
[19:12] <Ben64> 14.04 is eol this month
[19:12] <Ben64> yeah
[19:12] <teward> 18.04's your only step
[19:12] <teward> and what IP thing?
[19:12] <lordcirth__> He posted above, there was a concern about IP addresses being leaked
[19:12] <gofio> this cryptodan  https://www.reddit.com/r/linux/comments/8c0kk4/a_privacy_security_concern_regarding_gnome/
[19:13] <gofio> between a rock and a hard place teward :-D
[19:13] <gofio> xactly lordcirth__  thanks :-)
[19:16] <cryptodan> gofio: next time link to the actual article and not reddit, and there should be no privacy oriented discussion regarding that and you shouldnt worry at all.  actual concern is here https://fosspost.org/analytics/privacy-security-concern-regarding-gnome-software
[19:17] <gofio> yeap cryptodan  that's the first link I posted
[19:17] <cryptodan> gofio: you posted a link to reddit
[19:18] <gofio> then thanks to OerHeks I could see Richard Hughes response to that article, which gives me the light I needed, indeed
[19:19] <gofio> I posted the redit link to u cryptodan. Wasn't my first post
[19:20] <gofio> cryptodan: 20:49 <gofio> any thoughts on this? https://fosspost.org/analytics/privacy-security-concern-regarding-gnome-software
[19:21] <ioria> gofio, don't use gnome-software ? :þ
[19:21] <cryptodan> gofio: that is the link in your reddit post
[19:21] <cryptodan> gofio: and for me its no bigger issue then me going to a website and their server collects my ip, useragent, and other information
[19:22] <cryptodan> gofio: which to me is no private data
[19:22] <cryptodan> not*
[19:23] <lordcirth__> gofio, reddit also pointed out that the site posting that has about a dozen trackers on that page.
[19:27] <gofio> yeap lordcirth__, just read the answer from Richard Huges. And actually have the author on twitter. So I guess I'll get both sides of the argument. Thing is not random collecting the ip machine adress here and there but to collect it all in central data base located in London as at first is what I understood from th original article
[19:28] <cryptodan> gofio: again not private data
[19:28] <gofio> which it sems is notthe case - anyways I don't think there's a way I can prove any of the stated either way
[19:28] <ioria> ips are not  private
[19:28] <gofio> isn't ur machine internal ip adress private to u cryptodan :?
[19:29] <OerHeks> local lan ip is not of interest
[19:29] <ioria> and rarely is your exact location
[19:30] <cryptodan> gofio: 192.168.0.0/16, 172.16-31.0.0/16, and 10.0.0.0/8 are private non-routable ip addresses and known publically by anyone with basic networking so no its not private and same goes for external ip addresses
[19:30] <gofio> is not that ip the one I'm talking about ioria and yes, I do have dynamic ip adress or however said, and most of the times I'm somewhere else. i'm talking about the ip of the machine whichis always the same, as far asI'm concerned
[19:31] <cryptodan> gofio: its not leaked
[19:31] <ioria> gofio, vius a El Poble Nou ?
[19:32] <OerHeks> this whole ip tracking story is bogus
[19:33] <gofio> nope iora, but again I think we're talking about different things
[19:33] <ioria> ok
[19:35] <gofio> "According to fwupd.org/privacy, some parts of this data is being shared by 3rd-party hardware vendors, who may be interested in the number of people downloading these updates and what kind of Linux distros they are using. IP addresses are not shared, but client user-agent & hashed machine IDs are."
[19:35] <gofio> "The issue here is that in GNOME Software, users have no idea that such data is being sent or collected."
[19:36] <lordcirth__> Your user-agent is shared with every site you visit, why would sending it to the site you get your *firmware* from be a problem?
[19:37] <ioria> gofio, are you worried about the machine id ?
[19:38] <OerHeks> gofio,  i gave you answer, now please stop this fud ..
[19:38] <gofio> isn't that just like somebody had hacked me up ioria if u collect everything my machine does :?
[19:39] <gofio> I know OerHeks, I'm just answering. But it's ok for me. Got what I was looking for. Thanks
[19:40] <ioria> gofio, that it's just a number
[19:43] <cuddylier> Ubuntu 16.04 fails to install via PXE with the following error "libc6-udeb failed for unknown reasons" at the 'detect disks' stage. I'm using the latest files from here: http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/xenial/
[19:43] <cuddylier> Ubuntu 18.04 doesn't have the same issue.
[19:45] <ioria> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/debian-installer/+bug/1817358
[19:45] <ioria> cuddylier, ^
[19:45] <cuddylier> Yeah, I did find lots of those bug reports on Google
[19:45] <cuddylier> I guess maybe the only solution is using that old netboot image
[19:48] <cuddylier> Odd it hasn't been fixed yet.
[19:49] <gofio> is there a spanish ubuntu channel on this server that u know ioria ?
[19:49] <ioria> !es
[19:50] <gofio> thanks ioria
[19:50] <ioria> gofio, ok
[19:50] <gofio> u there ioria?
[19:50] <ioria> nope mate :þ
[19:50] <gofio> k, thanks. Given u know catalan ;-)
[19:50] <ioria> hehehe
[19:51] <gofio> for a moment I thought u could be :-)
[19:52] <ioria> no problem
[19:55] <izara> hola
[19:56] <lordcirth__> izara, hi
[20:00] <guest33454> Hello!  I can't run apt-get update or any other commands because the machine can't reach any of the repositorys.  It appears this is a DNS issue, as I can ping IP addresses and not domain names.  This is a fresh install, all I have done is install xrdp, and set a static IP via the GUI.
[20:00] <kubkde> guest133454
[20:01] <guest33454> kubkde: yes?
[20:01] <kubkde> No idea if he left but `nano /etc/fstab/`, comment out the existing and use `nameserver 1.1.1.1` from Cloudflare's own
[20:02] <kubkde> Double check wpa_supplicant and NetworkManager
[20:02] <guest33454> isnt etc/fstab for drive configurations?
[20:02] <kubkde> apt clean && apt update && -y
[20:02] <guest33454> yeah
[20:02] <kubkde> er.
[20:02] <guest33454> static file system information
[20:02] <kubkde> yes, apologies. /etc/resolv.conf
[20:04] <kubkde> Yup, /etc/resolv.conf is waht I meant
[20:04] <guest33454> kubkde: looks like that works, is this persistant across reboots?
[20:04] <lordcirth__> guest33454, what Ubuntu version, and desktop or server?
[20:04] <kubkde> The default is based on your ISP,but you can always change it. Using a VPN will override it, as well. Yes, the change persistsm, unless you have a particuarely aggressive package
[20:04] <lordcirth__> Since 16.04 /etc/resolv.conf has had a "Do not edit this" comment in it.
[20:05] <kubkde> Pff
[20:05] <lordcirth__> 16.04 uses resolvconf, and 18.04 uses netplan
[20:05] <kubkde> I use it 3-4 times a week to chroot into a different kernel and enable networkgin
[20:05] <OerHeks> re-edit your manually set network-manager settings.. you missed the DNS part i guess
[20:06] <guest33454> I tried setting the DNS via the GUI several times
[20:06] <guest33454> didn't work
[20:06] <guest33454> this worked though
[20:06] <OerHeks> kubkde, hard to believe, see the comment in the file, it does not survive reboot
[20:06] <kubkde> Hm
[20:06] <kubkde> conf.head should...let me recheck
[20:06] <guest33454> lordcirth__: this is 18.10
[20:09] <kubkde> I don't see the warning because i've truncated mine. _However_, I use a VPN that autosets it so we may be working with different systems. You can execute a cron task on boot to change it, or possibly set chmod to something so low that it wouldn't be editable
[20:09] <OerHeks> 18.10, then netplan it is .. https://netplan.io/examples // https://www.linux.com/learn/intro-to-linux/2018/9/how-use-netplan-network-configuration-tool-linux
[20:10] <kubkde> Hold on. WHich is newest? wpa_supplicant, netplan, or etc? Inquirty
[20:13] <OerHeks> wpa_supplicant is just for auth wireless, as of 18.04 netplan is in place
[20:14] <OerHeks> or just use networkmanager properly
[20:17] <Sc0tty-> Hi, how do I change ubuntu 18.04 to look like the classic ubuntu without the sidebar / top dropdown menu instead?
[20:19] <guest33454> Okay, I just rebooted because of some graphics drivers stuff (Trying to setup tensorflow-gpu and Jupyter notebooks).  The DNS change did not persist
[20:19] <guest33454> What can I do to make it persistant
[20:20] <OerHeks> !info ubuntu-unity-desktop
[20:20] <OerHeks> scottt, install ubuntu-unity-desktop, logout, change, login, done
[20:24] <CookieM> Sc0tty- even^
[20:24] <xut> What's so great about unity?
[20:28] <Slimmy> Greetings. I have a brand new sd card and adaptor. They are surely not faulty as I have tried this on 3 other adaptors with 2 different cards as well. I can't seem to get my Lubuntu to read my sd card, or detect it in any way. I do know though that port is fine since I can see it after running lsusb. How can I access it though?
[20:29] <xut> Go to #lubuntu?
[20:29] <LeoB> hello! I am trying to compile libvirt for ubuntu from the git repo (https://git.launchpad.net/~libvirt-maintainers/ubuntu/+source/libvirt, branch ubuntu/bionic) but 'fakeroot debian/rules binary' fails, with messages about moving files
[20:29] <LeoB> is this the right procedure?
[20:30] <LeoB> (it seems to finish compilation, but do not create the package
[20:31] <Bashing-om> Slimmy: "a brand new sd card" . Is the card formated and partitioned with a file system ? - What shows ' sudo parted -l ' ?
[20:35] <lordcirth__> LeoB, why do you need to compile it, instead of using the repo version?
[20:35] <LeoB> lordcirth__, Including a patch
[20:36] <lordcirth__> LeoB, ok. Can you please pastebin these errors you get?
[20:36] <lordcirth__> !paste | LeoB
[20:39] <LeoB> lordcirth__, https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/N4YN6p8KFk/
[20:40] <Slimmy> Bashing-om: It only shows my hard disk
[20:41] <Bashing-om> Slimmy: Ouch ! ,, and when boioting does bios see the adapter ?
[20:41] <Bashing-om> booting*
[20:43] <Slimmy> Bashing-om: Very cool question actually, didn't think about it. I am 90% sure it does, since lsusb does find it. But I will check after I'm done with the project im on rn
[20:44] <Bashing-om> Slimmy: Odd that 'lsusb' sees the device and that 'parted' can not !
[20:45] <lordcirth__> Slimmy, anything in dmesg when you plug it in?
[20:46] <Slimmy> lordcirth__: usb-storage 1-8:1.0: USB Mass Storage device detected
[20:50] <lordcirth__> Slimmy, but nothing about 'attached sdc' or so?
[20:51] <Slimmy> sd 4:0:0:0: Attached scsi generic sg2 type 0
[20:51] <Slimmy> ok this is really weird let me send you a paste
[20:52] <Slimmy> lordcirth__: Is pastebin fine with you?
[20:52] <lordcirth__> Slimmy, of course
[20:54] <Slimmy> lordcirth__ https://pastebin.com/M4awEsru
[20:55] <Slimmy> lordcirth__: I also get fdisk: cannot open /dev/sdb: No medium found
[20:56] <lordcirth__> Slimmy, well that's interesting. That's what CD drives say when there's no disk
[20:57] <Slimmy> lordcirth__: I honestly have no idea what to do. Like actually none
[20:57] <lordcirth__> Yeah that's a new one for me too
[21:07] <LeoB> lordcirth__, about https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/N4YN6p8KFk/
[21:08] <LeoB> do you have any suggestion?
[21:09] <lordcirth__> LeoB, I have no idea, but #libvirt might
[21:10] <LeoB> ok, but it seems something with deb package creation
[21:16] <nolsen> This is really just something so minor, but anyone know how to get the mute keyboard LED indicator to work?
[21:16] <nolsen> Since it doesn't tell me if it's muted/unmuted
[21:16] <nolsen> For HP-15xxxx btw
[21:17] <nolsen> 17*
[21:18] <jeremy31> nolsen I have a HP 15 something that the indicator works on
[21:19] <nolsen> jeremy31: I have a 17, light doesn't ever work.
[21:20] <jeremy31> The light on mine is on the F6 function key
[21:20] <nolsen> It's on my F6 as well
[21:22] <CyberManifest> I'm here
[21:25] <slacker_nl> well
[21:25] <jeremy31> nolsen my HP has Mint on it but the LED should be part of the kernel and/or some BIOS funtion
[21:25] <slacker_nl> you don't need to uncomment the last line in the sudoers file CyberManifest
[21:25] <CyberManifest> oh
[21:27] <slacker_nl> and you cannot name the conf file .conf, just name it 01_env_keep
[21:28] <CyberManifest> slacker_nl, at this point there are other issues, cause I'm getting the same thing and complete:13: command not found compdef
[21:30] <slacker_nl> CyberManifest: but `sudo sudo -V` doesn't show HOME in the preserve section right?
[21:30] <CyberManifest> let me check
[21:30] <CyberManifest> should I restart the shell to be sure
[21:30] <CyberManifest> ?
[21:30] <slacker_nl> no
[21:30] <CyberManifest> ok
[21:31] <CyberManifest> slacker_nl, http://dpaste.com/2GXJSKP
[21:31] <slacker_nl> still there
[21:32] <slacker_nl> did you chmod 440 on the file?
[21:32] <CyberManifest> yes
[21:34] <slacker_nl> lemme check if I can reproduce it
[21:34] <CyberManifest> slacker_nl, http://dpaste.com/0DPZZ42
[21:35] <CyberManifest> does it need execute?
[21:35] <slacker_nl> no
[21:35] <slacker_nl> rename it to 01_env_keep
[21:36] <CyberManifest> without the .conf extention?
[21:36] <slacker_nl> yeah
[21:36] <slacker_nl> see xx:27
[21:36] <slacker_nl>  < slacker_nl> and you cannot name the conf file .conf, just name it 01_env_keep
[21:37] <CyberManifest> done... http://dpaste.com/0ZZJ4HB
[21:37] <slacker_nl> sudo sudo -V to check
[21:38] <CyberManifest> looks gone... http://dpaste.com/2NHTJ3Q
[21:39] <slacker_nl> well
[21:39] <CyberManifest> now try sudo -s?
[21:39] <slacker_nl> yes
[21:39] <Speed_> i need help connecting to my ssh server, i used to work before but now its promptting me for a password for some reason, i thought i had password authentication disabled. my publick key is still in authorised keys tho
[21:40] <CyberManifest> slacker_nl, well, I don't get the warning, and I don't have zsh anymore :/ or at least not the theme, so I guess it worked
[21:40] <CyberManifest> slacker_nl, http://dpaste.com/1R8RNHH
[21:41] <slacker_nl> echo $SHELL
[21:41] <slacker_nl> and/or env and look for SHELL
[21:41] <slacker_nl> should say something like /bin/zsh
[21:41] <CyberManifest> yeah it's still zsh, but I'm guessing oh-my-zsh didn't get loaded?
[21:41] <slacker_nl> yes
[21:41] <slacker_nl> which is a good thing (tm)
[21:42] <CyberManifest> slacker_nl, cool, so now I can install Visual Studio Code?
[21:42] <CyberManifest> oh wait I forgot I can't :(
[21:42] <CyberManifest> it's not in the repos :(
[21:42] <slacker_nl> i think it is in the ubuntu repo's
[21:43] <CyberManifest> yeah, but for all intents and purposes, This isn't Ubuntu
[21:43] <CyberManifest> :/
[21:43] <slacker_nl> https://code.visualstudio.com/docs/setup/linux
[21:43] <CyberManifest> slacker_nl, isn't that for x86 ? this is for ARM
[21:44] <CyberManifest> slacker_nl, that's why I was trying to use: https://code.headmelted.com/
[21:44] <slacker_nl> I dunno
[21:44] <slacker_nl> I use vim
[21:45] <CyberManifest> vim doesn't have auto complete, or other fancy fools tools that I'd prefer to use
[21:45] <slacker_nl> it does
[21:45] <CyberManifest> by default ?
[21:45] <CyberManifest> or more configuring?
[21:45] <slacker_nl> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UTqxEGjNnwI
[21:46] <slacker_nl> no, you need to install a plugin
[21:46] <slacker_nl> https://drive.google.com/file/d/0BwYoEogoEtfsVF90dHF3Q3FyM2M/view / https://github.com/vim-scripts/AutoComplPop
[21:47] <CyberManifest> slacker_nl, I appreciate the resources and I may look into it in the future, but that's a lot of work to get to where I want when Visual Studio Code is Configured as desired Out of the Box
[21:48] <slacker_nl> Well, good luck with installing it that case ;)
[21:48] <slacker_nl> I'm heading to bed
[21:48] <CyberManifest> slacker_nl, lol, thanks, but no, seriously Thank you for all your help :)
[21:49] <slacker_nl> yw
[21:49] <slacker_nl> and maybe update your bug @ ubuntu, because they break the default behaviour of sudo
[21:50] <slacker_nl> and/or update the report with your fix
[21:50] <CyberManifest> what do you mean "break the default behaviour of sudo" ?
[21:51] <CyberManifest> gotta track it down again
[21:51] <slacker_nl> that patch that they added in ... 1.7.4p4-5ubuntu6 breaks the default sudo compared to upstream (both sudo and debian)
[21:52] <slacker_nl> you can reference to https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/sudo/+bug/760140
[21:53] <CyberManifest> slacker_nl, how do I edit this bug I don't know that I can, they may have taken my permission?
[21:54] <slacker_nl> you opened a bug at ubuntu right?
[21:54] <CyberManifest> slacker_nl, yeah,,, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/sudo/+bug/1823202
[21:54] <slacker_nl> yeah, update that one
[21:54] <CyberManifest> how?
[21:54] <slacker_nl> and reference to the other bug
[21:54] <slacker_nl> add a comment
[21:54] <CyberManifest> I don't see an update button
[21:54] <CyberManifest> there's not a place to add a comment
[21:55] <CyberManifest> oh, it turns out I wasn't loged in
[21:55] <Cryptolock> Hi guys, ive changed the ip of the server to static, eveyrimte its rebooted i have to add the gq route manually sudo ip route add default via 192.168.99.1
[21:56] <slacker_nl> addthe gateway in /etc/network/interfaces?
[21:57] <Cryptolock> when i try to do so, it asks " sudo apt install ifupdown "
[21:57] <Cryptolock> but the sudo apt install ifupdown is already installed
[21:57] <slacker_nl> add --reinstall and see what happens?
[21:58] <slacker_nl> what does apt-cache policy ifupdown say?
[21:58] <Bashing-om> Cryptolock: What release is theis ? Does netplan apply ?
[21:59] <Bashing-om> this*
[21:59] <Cryptolock> its server 18:04
[21:59] <Bashing-om> Cryptolock: Netplan !
[22:00] <Bashing-om> !netplan | Cryptolock
[22:00] <Cryptolock> Bashing-om i am not sure if netplan is installed.
[22:01] <Cryptolock> ubotu i got it, its not out of the box working ? needs config ?
[22:02] <slacker_nl> it's a bot ;)
[22:02] <slacker_nl> Cryptolock: apt-cache policy netplan
[22:02] <slacker_nl> Cryptolock: or use dpkg -l netplan\*
[22:03] <Bashing-om> Cryptolock: It is ,, server install will be via systemd-networkd .
[22:03] <Cryptolock> it shows netplan version is 0 0 0 0
[22:03] <Cryptolock> netplanio version 0.40.1
[22:04] <Bashing-om> !info netplan | bionic
[22:04] <slacker_nl> Cryptolock: that was from dpkg -l?
[22:04] <CyberManifest> slacker_nl, ok, I've added a comment, how do I close it as resolved; or do I want to do this?
[22:05] <slacker_nl> CyberManifest: up to you
[22:05] <slacker_nl> if you want it open for discussion, keep it open, else close
[22:06] <CyberManifest> well, how do I close just for refrence?
[22:07] <slacker_nl> Uhhhh, I'm not logged in and not sure if I have my crednetials for launchpad in my pw manager
[22:07] <Cryptolock> slacker_nl i just need to add the gw to the default interface :)
[22:07] <slacker_nl> Cryptolock: to the interface where you have set the static IP
[22:08] <slacker_nl> Cryptolock: https://paste.debian.net/1076165/ something like that
[22:08] <slacker_nl> it's from a debian server, but the idea is the same
[22:09] <slacker_nl> ubottu: close bug?
[22:09] <CyberManifest> slacker_nl, would it show for you from the URL https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/sudo/+bug/1823202?comments=all ?
[22:10] <slacker_nl> i have the bug open in my browser, but I need to be logged in to see buttons and what not
[22:10] <CyberManifest> oh, well, I don't see a button to close or mark resolved
[22:10] <slacker_nl> and my password seems to be broken
[22:10] <slacker_nl> unable to help with this
[22:10] <slacker_nl> :)
[22:11] <slacker_nl> best of luck with the editor
[22:11] <jeremy31> CyberManifest: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/sudo/+bug/1823202/+edit
[22:11] <slacker_nl> and Cryptolock best of luck with the gatway
[22:11] <CyberManifest> I can change the status, sould I pick: "Fix Committed" or "Fix Releaased" ?
[22:11] <slacker_nl> neither
[22:12] <slacker_nl> the fix would be a patch to remove the debian/patch/xxxx.patch file
[22:12] <slacker_nl> which isn't committed or released
[22:12] <CyberManifest> jeremy31, just select change?
[22:13] <Bashing-om> Cryptolock: netplan - old docs no longer apply. For reference to set static see: https://blog.ubuntu.com/2017/12/01/ubuntu-bionic-netplan .
[22:14] <jeremy31> CyberManifest: You may just need to post how it was fixed
[22:14] <CyberManifest> jeremy31, I did
[22:15] <CyberManifest> jeremy31, last comment https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/sudo/+bug/1823202?comments=all
[22:16] <slacker_nl> CyberManifest: there are two other bugs that are the same as yours, both can be found in https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/sudo/+bug/760140
[22:16] <slacker_nl> I personally believe that the decision of adding this patch is wrong, please refer Bug #1373495. / I'm expecting the documented behavior. Please refer Bug #889936
[22:19] <CyberManifest> slacker_nl, so mark it as duplicate? and have it search those two numbers?
[22:20] <slacker_nl> yeah
[22:20] <slacker_nl> and don't get your hopes up that they'll fix it ;)
[22:20] <slacker_nl> at least you've learned something about sudo ;)
[22:22] <CyberManifest> slacker_nl, it can only let me mark it as a duplicate for one or the other
[22:22] <slacker_nl> pick any
[22:23] <slacker_nl> you can always add a comment with links to both bugs
[22:23] <slacker_nl> and a link back in the original bug
[22:23] <slacker_nl> if you really want all holes covered
[22:23] <slacker_nl> cd ~/bed
[22:24] <CyberManifest> slacker_nl, oh, yeah I'm not worried about the fix, cause you're work around works good enough for me, and I did learn, not just about sudo but also the infernal bug reporting; didn't even know ubuntu had an inhouse bug report script
[22:24] <gofio> I'm doin a backup and it says .launchpadlib couldn't be added, and on the personal folder it shows a lock symbol along the .launchpadlib folder, does that have any correlation :? tia
[22:24] <slacker_nl> bugreport or something?
[22:24] <slacker_nl> reportbug?
[22:24] <CyberManifest> slacker_nl, yeah I just quoted your remarks in the comments https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/sudo/+bug/1823202?comments=all
[22:25] <CyberManifest> slacker_nl, "ubuntu-bug" ;)
[22:25] <slacker_nl> ahh
[22:25] <slacker_nl> reportbug is the debian version of it then
[22:26] <CyberManifest> slacker_nl, cool, thanks for the ProTip :)
[22:26] <CyberManifest> slacker_nl, now if my memory will remember :/
[22:26] <slacker_nl> CyberManifest: I'm sure it will
[22:27] <slacker_nl> CyberManifest: have a go at ansible, that way you can automate these things
[22:27] <slacker_nl> and git your configs
[22:27] <CyberManifest> ansible?
[22:27] <slacker_nl> yeah
[22:27] <slacker_nl> https://www.ansible.com/
[22:28] <CyberManifest> I have an Ubuntu One account to allow me to report bugs, I presume Debian's "reportbug" would require me to have some form of a Debian account?
[22:28] <slacker_nl> nope
[22:28] <slacker_nl> it just sends an email
[22:28] <CyberManifest> oh good :)
[22:28] <slacker_nl> debian bug reporting is just via e-mail
[22:29] <slacker_nl> or at least, I haven't seen anything that resembles a UI to update bugs
[22:30] <slacker_nl> O/
[22:31] <CyberManifest> slacker_nl, well, thank you for all the help, advice, and tips, I'm going to get off the system for now and rest, but again Thank You Very Much, It's been most appreciated and helpful and you are kind.
[22:31] <CyberManifest> tc
[22:33] <slacker_nl> :) enjoy your day
[22:37] <gofio> :-(
[22:47] <BenMcLean> Hi there folks
[22:47] <Lynysys> Hi - when I make a video window fullscreen in Ubuntu Disco Beta, it takes over the X Server and wont let me "unfullscreen" and I have to restart the display manager. I have Intel Graphics on a MSI CUBI. What package should I file the bug under?
[22:48] <BenMcLean> I'm having a problem where the Ubuntu installer isn't seeing the third SSD I have installed
[22:48] <teward> Lynysys: Disco support in #ubuntu+1 only
[22:48] <teward> they'll also help you figure where to file the bug.
[22:48] <BenMcLean> I have three SSDs installed in my laptop. Two are 2 TB SSDs that I'm using for Windows and the third is a 256 GB SSD that I want to dedicate to Linux
[22:48] <BenMcLean> When I run the Ubuntu installer, it only sees the first two SSDs
[22:51] <BenMcLean> how do I get it to see the third SSD ??
[23:32] <dman777> I had imagemagick 6 installed with apt-get. I think manually compiled image magick 7 from these directions https://gist.github.com/rjnienaber/af47fccb8410926ba7ea35f96c3b87fd but identify --version still shows 6.*. Any ideas what is wrong?
[23:33] <Sleaker> dman777: your path is still running v6
[23:34] <dman777> Sleaker: how do I fix the path? I guess ldconfig would of fixed that
[23:34] <Sleaker> dman777: uninstall 6, or change the symlinks/pathing to make it run 7
[23:34] <Sleaker> uhh no.
[23:34] <Sleaker> echo $PATH
[23:35] <Sleaker> that shows you the order that directories are checked when you run a command.
[23:35] <dman777> Sleaker: uninstalling the old ver did the trick. thank you.
[23:35] <Sleaker> which imagemagick - will tell you what exactly is getting run
[23:35] <dman777> +1
[23:35] <Sleaker> dman777: be careful, you may have broken a lot of stuff that uses v6 library
[23:35] <Sleaker> imagemagick is used all over. so just a word of warning.
[23:35] <dman777> Sleaker: on a headless cloud server?
[23:36] <Sleaker> probably not.
[23:36] <Sleaker> :D
[23:36] <dman777> whew
[23:36] <dman777> thanks
[23:36] <Sleaker> just depends on if you have stuff doing image manipulation that and was using libmagickcore
[23:37] <Sleaker> if you left the lib, you should be fine.