[00:12] oh no not tap to click as default [00:12] oh well i guess i'm in the minority [00:13] It is easy to turn off in the settings now. [00:13] wxl this is one reason why I need multiple versions of the manual for how to disable that [00:14] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rDEFAULTSETTINGS9abf2ba92142: modify changelog] hmollercl (Hans P. Möller) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rDEFAULTSETTINGS9abf2ba92142 [00:14] wxl I think there was someone with an abomintion of a touchpad that you have to tap to click [00:15] you HAVE to? [00:15] i'd throw that thing so far..... [00:15] at least that was what I read their message as [00:15] @kc2bez [It is easy to turn off in the settings now.], but it's a strange name it has "asingle click to activate items" [00:16] I agree it is strangely worded. [00:16] someone enterprising should fix that upstream [00:17] Doesn't that phrase appear in openbox settings [00:19] i hope not [00:20] https://manual.lubuntu.me/3/3.2/3.2.8/keyboard_and_mouse.html nope it is in keyboard in mouse [00:39] wxl: https://phab.lubuntu.me/w/packaging/ [00:40] I'm going to start writing out some packaging fundamentals. [00:40] The eventual goal is to be able to give it to any kind of contributor to get them up to speed. [00:50] @tsimonq2 [ The eventual goal is to be able to give it to any kind of contributor …], I sent the parsed wiki to you, hope it helps [00:56] Thanks! [02:05] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [T26: Define and Implement Default Settings for Touchpad] hmollercl (Hans P. Möller) commented on the task: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T26#399 [02:08] question, the update-notifier/upgrader should do a upgrade or full-upgrade? The only differece is that full-upgrade can also removes packages [02:08] @HMollerCl [question, the update-notifier/upgrader should do a upgrade or full-upgrade? The …], full-upgrade [02:08] imo [02:39] @tsimonq2 did Chih-Hsuan Yen talk to you about libreoffice and lxqt? see this https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=123595 at the end [02:48] Oh, I didn't see that [02:49] I'm going to be honest, I haven't been following this much [03:19] oooh i hadn't noticed there are now multiple graphics controllers in virtualbox [03:24] @HMollerCl though i think, in general, it would be wise to use upgrade, i think @tsimonq2 is right that full-upgrade is what the default is. for example, the warning with pre-release versions that "Updates…would remove critical Ubuntu components" suggests a full-upgrade https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SoftwareUpdates [03:59] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [T26: Define and Implement Default Settings for Touchpad] wxl (Walter Lapchynski) commented on the task: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T26#401 [04:17] wxl, @HMollerCl, @kc2bez, et. al: Thoughts on this? https://github.com/lxqt/lxqt/issues/1673#issuecomment-480556692 [04:17] Issue 1673 in lxqt/lxqt "Update SAL_USE_VCLPLUGIN in startlxqt so that users can open files easily in Libreoffice" [Open] [04:19] i don't think we have much of a practical choice @tsimonq2 [04:22] What do you mean? [04:22] i mean we have a choice between accepting gtk3 or something broken, essentially [04:23] Yeah, good point. [04:23] I just wanted a second opinion. [04:23] i kind of feel like that's not an opinion so much as an acceptance of reality XD [04:23] ^^ [04:23] Sanish_Patil was added by: Sanish_Patil [04:26] this is fun https://bugs.launchpad.net/lxqt/+bug/1823416 [04:26] Ubuntu bug 1823416 in lxqt-session (Ubuntu) "lxqt-session allocates memory for process output never read" [Undecided, Triaged] [04:27] holy [04:27] ok [04:27] Thanks wxl. [04:27] it was originally found from people playing games and/or using wine so naturally upstream was pointing the finger that way [04:27] hah [04:27] yeah [04:28] it would be a really nice day when they could just be nice [05:49] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rCIMETADATA3c2b2d01c101: Add sddm.] tsimonq2 (Simon Quigley) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rCIMETADATA3c2b2d01c101 [12:59] @tsimonq2 [ wxl, @HMollerCl, @kc2bez, et. al: Thoughts on this? https://github.co …], Looks like you got a handle on this with wxl. I agree the working option seems like the best one. [12:59] @tsimonq2 [ wxl, @HMollerCl, @kc2bez, et. al: Thoughts on this? https://github.co …], Yes it is. I remove libreoffice-kde5 from seed yesterday [13:13] Is D2 [13:16] https://phab.lubuntu.me/D2 [13:16] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [Needs Review] Remove libreoffice-kde5 because his file picker doesn't add file extension: https://phab.lubuntu.me/D2 [13:16] That will leave gtk3 as default [19:11] @HMollerCl [@The_LoudSpeaker I have an installation of 22march daily and pdf are opened by d …], Noted. [22:29] @tsimonq2: in this bug you said you were going to git bisect to try to find the problem. my problem is i can't reproduce it, at least not on a vm. https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/pcmanfm/+bug/1782984 [22:29] Ubuntu bug 1782984 in pcmanfm (Ubuntu) "PCManFM freezes with Assertion `!xcb_xlib_threads_sequence_lost' failed when clicking on a file or folder in 18.04" [Critical, Triaged] [22:37] i see two bug reports from scott.c.jacobs (#1823569 & #1773610) - i could (a) download beta & test it to 'confirm' but wouldn't that still need (b) re-test on current daily to be useful -- i'll look at this when I can in (b), and only do (a) if I cannot find issue in (b) - i'm currently mostly-zombie so will be later today [the older one i've also documented too i believe] [23:00] i can confirm https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/calamares/+bug/1823569 [23:00] Ubuntu bug 1823569 in calamares (Ubuntu) "Lubuntu 19.04 beta - SegFault from manual partitioning when 'Edit' clicked on with no partition selected" [Undecided, New] [23:00] basically, pick a partition, click edit, hit ok, then WITHOUT SELECTING A PARTITION AGAIN, click edit → crash [23:02] uhhh can't run apport-collect because python3-launchpadlib is not in live.. know any reason for that @tsimonq2 ? [23:29] The crash stuff has been noted in #calamares but I haven't actually experienced it myself. I think that is one of the things holding the next release. [23:30] @wxl [ @tsimonq2: in this bug you said you were going to git bisect to try to fin …], But @HMollerCl can [23:30] @wxl [ uhhh can't run apport-collect because python3-launchpadlib is not in live. …], Go ahead and add it