[00:12] <wxl> oh no not tap to click as default
[00:12] <wxl> oh well i guess i'm in the minority
 It is easy to turn off in the settings now.
[00:13] <lynorian> wxl this is one reason why I need multiple versions of the manual for how to disable that
[00:14] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rDEFAULTSETTINGS9abf2ba92142: modify changelog] hmollercl (Hans P. Möller) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rDEFAULTSETTINGS9abf2ba92142
[00:14] <lynorian> wxl I think there was someone with an abomintion of a touchpad that you have to tap to click
[00:15] <wxl> you HAVE to?
[00:15] <wxl> i'd throw that thing so far.....
[00:15] <lynorian> at least that was what I read their message as
 @kc2bez [It is easy to turn off in the settings now.], but it's a strange name it has "asingle click to activate items"
 I agree it is strangely worded.
[00:16] <wxl> someone enterprising should fix that upstream
[00:17] <lynorian> Doesn't that phrase appear in openbox settings
[00:19] <wxl> i hope not
[00:20] <lynorian> https://manual.lubuntu.me/3/3.2/3.2.8/keyboard_and_mouse.html nope it is in keyboard in mouse
[00:39] <tsimonq2> wxl: https://phab.lubuntu.me/w/packaging/
[00:40] <tsimonq2> I'm going to start writing out some packaging fundamentals.
[00:40] <tsimonq2> The eventual goal is to be able to give it to any kind of contributor to get them up to speed.
 @tsimonq2 [<tsimonq2> The eventual goal is to be able to give it to any kind of contributor …], I sent the parsed wiki to you, hope it helps
 Thanks!
[02:05] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [T26: Define and Implement Default Settings for Touchpad] hmollercl (Hans P. Möller) commented on the task: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T26#399
 question, the update-notifier/upgrader should do a upgrade or full-upgrade? The only differece is that full-upgrade can also removes packages
 @HMollerCl [question, the update-notifier/upgrader should do a upgrade or full-upgrade? The …], full-upgrade
 imo
 @tsimonq2 did Chih-Hsuan Yen talk to you about libreoffice and lxqt? see this https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=123595 at the end
 Oh, I didn't see that
 I'm going to be honest, I haven't been following this much
[03:19] <wxl> oooh i hadn't noticed there are now multiple graphics controllers in virtualbox
[03:24] <wxl> @HMollerCl though i think, in general, it would be wise to use upgrade, i think @tsimonq2 is right that full-upgrade is what the default is. for example, the warning with pre-release versions that "Updates…would remove critical Ubuntu components" suggests a full-upgrade https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SoftwareUpdates
[03:59] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [T26: Define and Implement Default Settings for Touchpad] wxl (Walter Lapchynski) commented on the task: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T26#401
[04:17] <tsimonq2> wxl, @HMollerCl, @kc2bez, et. al: Thoughts on this? https://github.com/lxqt/lxqt/issues/1673#issuecomment-480556692
[04:19] <wxl> i don't think we have much of a practical choice @tsimonq2 
[04:22] <tsimonq2> What do you mean?
[04:22] <wxl> i mean we have a choice between accepting gtk3 or something broken, essentially
[04:23] <tsimonq2> Yeah, good point.
[04:23] <tsimonq2> I just wanted a second opinion.
[04:23] <wxl> i kind of feel like that's not an opinion so much as an acceptance of reality XD
[04:23] <tsimonq2> ^^
[04:26] <wxl> this is fun https://bugs.launchpad.net/lxqt/+bug/1823416
[04:27] <tsimonq2> holy
[04:27] <tsimonq2> ok
[04:27] <tsimonq2> Thanks wxl.
[04:27] <wxl> it was originally found from people playing games and/or using wine so naturally upstream was pointing the finger that way
[04:27] <tsimonq2> hah
[04:27] <tsimonq2> yeah
[04:28] <wxl> it would be a really nice day when they could just be nice
[05:49] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rCIMETADATA3c2b2d01c101: Add sddm.] tsimonq2 (Simon Quigley) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rCIMETADATA3c2b2d01c101
 @tsimonq2 [<tsimonq2> wxl, @HMollerCl, @kc2bez, et. al: Thoughts on this? https://github.co …], Looks like you got a handle on this with wxl. I agree the working option seems like the best one.
 @tsimonq2 [<tsimonq2> wxl, @HMollerCl, @kc2bez, et. al: Thoughts on this? https://github.co …], Yes it is. I remove libreoffice-kde5 from seed yesterday
 Is D2
 https://phab.lubuntu.me/D2
[13:16] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [Needs Review] Remove libreoffice-kde5 because his file picker doesn't add file extension: https://phab.lubuntu.me/D2
 That will leave gtk3 as default
 @HMollerCl [@The_LoudSpeaker I have an installation of 22march daily and pdf are opened by d …], Noted.
[22:29] <wxl> @tsimonq2: in this bug you said you were going to git bisect to try to find the problem. my problem is i can't reproduce it, at least not on a vm. https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/pcmanfm/+bug/1782984
[22:37] <guiverc> i see two bug reports from scott.c.jacobs (#1823569 & #1773610) - i could (a) download beta & test it to 'confirm' but wouldn't that still need (b) re-test on current daily to be useful   -- i'll look at this when I can in (b), and only do (a) if I cannot find issue in (b) - i'm currently mostly-zombie so will be later today  [the older one i've also documented too i believe]
[23:00] <wxl> i can confirm https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/calamares/+bug/1823569
[23:00] <wxl> basically, pick a partition, click edit, hit ok, then WITHOUT SELECTING A PARTITION AGAIN, click edit → crash
[23:02] <wxl> uhhh can't run apport-collect because python3-launchpadlib is not in live.. know any reason for that @tsimonq2 ?
 The crash stuff has been noted in #calamares but I haven't actually experienced it myself. I think that is one of the things holding the next release.
 @wxl [<wxl> @tsimonq2: in this bug you said you were going to git bisect to try to fin …], But @HMollerCl can
 @wxl [<wxl> uhhh can't run apport-collect because python3-launchpadlib is not in live. …], Go ahead and add it