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kc2bezwxl: ignore my previous comment, that was unrelated. The bug does look to be fixed in the CI build from my quick test however. 00:11
lubot<tsimonq2> Git bisect time :D00:11
lubot<HMollerCl> @tsimonq2 [But @HMollerCl can], This is the pcmanfm in lxde I thought wxl had an idea of the problem00:11
lubot<kc2bez> @tsimonq2 [Git bisect time :D], Was that in reply to me?00:28
lubot<tsimonq2> @kc2bez [Was that in reply to me?], Yes00:28
lubot<kc2bez> Oh, crazy replied to wxl in IRC. :) Do you want a patch?00:31
lubot<tsimonq2> Oh, sure00:33
lubot<kc2bez> Ok. I can work on it tomorrow night if that is good.00:36
lubot<tsimonq2> Sure!00:37
lubot<tsimonq2> Thanks00:37
guivercThanks & Sorry wxl,  I'm not with it enough today so giving up.  I'll test & try again (& correct comments on 1822249 & 1823569) tomorrow 05:16
wxlno problem guiverc 05:17
-lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [T40: Cala segfault when performing action with no selection] wxl (Walter Lapchynski) just created this task: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T4005:46
-lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [T40: Cala segfault when performing action with no selection] tsimonq2 (Simon Quigley) commented on the task: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T40#41412:39
-lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [T2: Fix EFI encryption] tsimonq2 (Simon Quigley) commented on the task: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T2#41812:54
-lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [T36: Fix full disk encryption on BIOS systems] tsimonq2 (Simon Quigley) commented on the task: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T36#42013:04
-lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [T41: Lubuntu 19.10] tsimonq2 (Simon Quigley) just created this task: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T4113:06
-lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [T3: Provide complete mimeapps.list] tsimonq2 (Simon Quigley) commented on the task: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T3#43113:10
-lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [T36: Fix full disk encryption on BIOS systems] tsimonq2 (Simon Quigley) commented on the task: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T36#43313:14
-lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [T2: Fix EFI encryption] apt-ghetto (apt-ghetto) commented on the task: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T2#43414:03
wxl[m]@teward001 I just realized we don't have inbound emails set up on phab. Please fix? https://secure.phabricator.com/book/phabricator/article/configuring_inbound_email/14:17
lubot<teward001> wxl[m] already on the list of things to fix.  it's more tricky than just that, I have to set up a postfix relay on the host to properly hand messages to proper backends if we end up having more than one backend that needs email14:18
wxl[m]K14:20
tewardalso need to coordinate with Canonical SA because *all* @lubuntu.me mail flows through seviper.u.c14:20
tewardand i'll have to remember exactly what types of address needs redirected14:21
-lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [T3: Provide complete mimeapps.list] wxl (Walter Lapchynski) commented on the task: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T3#44314:24
-lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [T3: Provide complete mimeapps.list] tsimonq2 (Simon Quigley) commented on the task: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T3#44614:33
apt-ghettoWhat's about the minimum requirements set to 1 GB RAM? Will this be dropped for 19.04?14:42
lubot<HMollerCl> @apt-ghetto [<apt-ghetto> What's about the minimum requirements set to 1 GB RAM? Will this be …], Fresh installation is not much more than 300mb14:47
apt-ghettoYes, but in calamares there is some setting that prevent the installation with =< 1 GiB RAM and 8 GiB disk space14:48
apt-ghettoAt the moment I don't find it14:49
lubot<kc2bez> ^ I think it might actually be 1G free14:51
apt-ghettoIt is hidden in https://phab.lubuntu.me/file/data/735jekuin7miys7tvsr3/PHID-FILE-gbi53fcgldahgy3dx2by/welcome.conf15:14
lubot<tsimonq2> Test it before you commit it, but I'm ack on trying lower values15:15
lubot<tsimonq2> Whatever you find is best, commit it and make a changelog entry and I'll review/upload.15:15
-lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [T3: Provide complete mimeapps.list] The_LoudSpeaker (Raman Sarda) commented on the task: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T3#44715:17
apt-ghettoOk, I will have a look15:33
apt-ghettoWill the packaging tutorial be available again?15:34
lubot<tsimonq2> @apt-ghetto [<apt-ghetto> Will the packaging tutorial be available again?], Soon, I have an archived copy on my computer I can just send you when I get home for lunch in about an hour15:34
lubot<tsimonq2> @HMollerCl might have it too15:34
lubot<tsimonq2> And maybe wxl could upload it too, since he has upload access to Lubuntu packages ;)15:35
apt-ghettoDon't hurry, I am not sure, if I will have time this evening15:35
lubot<tsimonq2> Ok :)15:35
lubot<tsimonq2> I'm setting a soft deadline for Lubuntu uploads on Thursday. After that, a considerable amount of effort will be required to get stuff in.15:36
lubot<tsimonq2> That goes for mimeapps.list and this15:37
lubot<tsimonq2> Anything non-RC15:37
lubot<teward001> *inserts ufw into the requisite packages to install but not configure during installation time*15:37
lubot<teward001> *shot*15:37
lubot<teward001> :P15:37
lubot<tsimonq2> @teward001 [*inserts ufw into the requisite packages to install but not configure during ins …], Where's your diff for me to review? :P15:37
-lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [T43: Add `ufw` to default-installed packages list] teward (Thomas Ward) just created this task: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T4315:40
lubot<teward001> @tsimonq2 it's actually a task you self-assigned after inquiring with me, walter, and Seth about whether to include `ufw` ;)15:41
lubot<teward001> task is there to track now though 😛15:41
lubot<tsimonq2> "Assigned to: none"15:41
lubot<tsimonq2> Hmmm15:41
lubot<tsimonq2> :P15:41
tewardthat's fixed15:42
tewardodd creating the task wouldn't let me assign it to you :/15:42
tewardmust be a Phab glitch15:42
teward*kicks workplace internet*15:42
lubot<HMollerCl> @tsimonq2 [@HMollerCl might have it too], apt-ghetto: https://github.com/hmollercl/lubuntuPhab/tree/master/Lubuntu-Wiki here tou can find it17:00
wxl@teward001 NICE avi on phab17:00
lubot<teward001> heh17:02
-lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [T3: Provide complete mimeapps.list] wxl (Walter Lapchynski) commented on the task: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T3#45717:13
lubot<The_LoudSpeaker> Hey wxl. I am ready with both 18.04 and disco installs for T3 Can you message me in pm? Let's fix this today17:17
wxl@The_LoudSpeaker i don't think i can pm you because i'm not on telegram but if you're on irc ok XD or we can just do it here. no reason to pm. plus, you have more people to help17:17
lubot<The_LoudSpeaker> Okay. So what do I do?17:18
wxlall that needs to be done is to make a change to lubuntu-default-settings so that that mimeapps.list file is at /etc/xdg/xdg-Lubuntu/mimeapps.list17:20
lubot<The_LoudSpeaker> Okay. I will ping back in a while.17:21
wxlas you can see we already have one but it's incomplete https://phab.lubuntu.me/source/lubuntu-default-settings/browse/ubuntu%252Fdisco/src/etc/xdg/xdg-Lubuntu/mimeapps.list17:21
wxlman i love dark mode in phabricator but it's so messed up17:22
-lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [T44: add python3-launchpadlib to live seed] wxl (Walter Lapchynski) just created this task: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T4417:24
lubot<kc2bez> @wxl [<wxl> man i love dark mode in phabricator but it's so messed up], Oh geez, how did I not see that before now.17:25
wxlbecause it sucks sometimes? XD17:25
lubot<kc2bez> Still easier on my eyes though.17:25
wxlindeed17:26
-lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [T43: Add `ufw` to default-installed packages list] wxl (Walter Lapchynski) commented on the task: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T43#46817:26
lubot<The_LoudSpeaker> @wxl [<wxl> man i love dark mode in phabricator but it's so messed up], Dark mode is louuv <317:27
lubot<kc2bez> wxl I am double checking but it looks like UFW is already installed, I don't think I added it.17:27
lubot<tsimonq2> @wxl [<wxl> man i love dark mode in phabricator but it's so messed up], WOAH there's a dark mode?!?17:42
wxldon't you check your settings? :)17:42
lubot<tsimonq2> I will now XD17:43
lubot<The_LoudSpeaker> @wxl [<wxl> as you can see we already have one but it's incomplete https://phab.lubunt …], But it needs huge development. I can't read anything in this file in dark mode.17:45
lubot<kc2bez> @kc2bez [wxl I am double checking but it looks like UFW is already installed, I don't thi …], I just booted up a daily live and it is there.17:54
wxl@kc2bez remember what's on live can different from what's on the installed version, so check there, too before calling it good17:54
lubot<kc2bez> ok, will finish up the install and let you know.17:55
lubot<The_LoudSpeaker> I just installed a fresh disco build17:59
lubot<The_LoudSpeaker> It's not there17:59
lubot<The_LoudSpeaker> @kc2bez17:59
lubot<kc2bez> weird, do we remove it somewhere? My install is almost done, just need to reboot.18:00
tewardunless it's included in the lubuntu packages installed (metapackage or such) I don't think it's kept.18:08
tewardbut not 100% sure18:08
lubot<kc2bez> Uh, it looks to be there on mine. https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/5sXPJN66Fb/18:12
lubot<The_LoudSpeaker> Opps! just ran sudo ufw enable and it worked. Mybad.18:14
lubot<The_LoudSpeaker> gufw is not installed by default18:14
wxlwhich it wouldn't be18:14
wxlin general we'd be avoiding any gtk stuff18:14
lubot<The_LoudSpeaker> @The_LoudSpeaker [It's not there], When I said this I had looked for gufw.18:15
lubot<The_LoudSpeaker> @wxl [<wxl> in general we'd be avoiding any gtk stuff], k. Noted18:15
-lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [T43: Add `ufw` to default-installed packages list] kc2bez (Dan Simmons) commented on the task: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T43#47918:17
-lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [T43: Add `ufw` to default-installed packages list] wxl (Walter Lapchynski) commented on the task: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T43#48118:18
lubot<The_LoudSpeaker> @wxl [<wxl> as you can see we already have one but it's incomplete https://phab.lubunt …], Hey wxl, I got a file named defaults.list in /etc/xdg/lubuntu/applications in 18.04 Is it the one I should refer to fill this file?19:48
wxl@The_LoudSpeaker no. look at the task for the one we need19:48
wxloh well. maybe we should look into how to do an unencrypted /boot, @tsimonq219:50
lubot<The_LoudSpeaker> @wxl [<wxl> as you can see we already have one but it's incomplete https://phab.lubunt …], I don't understand. As far as I understand, we have to complete this file isn't it?  The file having simillar content and which does the same job in 18.04 is /etc/xdg/lubuntu/applications/defaults.list In my opinion, if we copy the conte19:53
lubotnts of defaults.list into the mimeapps.list file and then further edit it according to applications presentin 19.04,our job should be done. What say? I will send the fdefaults.list in a while just take a look19:53
lubot<The_LoudSpeaker> wxl19:54
wxl@tsimonq2: why don't you try talking with philmanjaro?20:16
lubot<tsimonq2> Maybe.20:17
lubot<tsimonq2> I'm not giving up yet though.20:17
wxlmight want to hit it both directions20:18
wxl@The_LoudSpeaker we currently have this https://phab.lubuntu.me/source/lubuntu-default-settings/browse/ubuntu%252Fdisco/src/etc/xdg/xdg-Lubuntu/mimeapps.list but it needs to be complete like https://phab.lubuntu.me/source/lubuntu-default-settings/browse/ubuntu%252Fbionic/src/etc/xdg/lubuntu/applications/defaults.list but not with those apps because they're old lxde apps20:30
wxl@The_LoudSpeaker and no we do not want defaults.list -- it doesn't follow the spec https://specifications.freedesktop.org/mime-apps-spec/latest/ar01s02.html and from what i can surmise is some weird gnome thing20:31
lubot<The_LoudSpeaker> Yup! that's what I am trying to say! I am right now editing the app names in the defaults.list. I will ask if I cannot find name of some app20:31
wxl@The_LoudSpeaker in case it's not obvious the app names are actually calls to the desktop files in /usr/share/applications20:41
lubot<The_LoudSpeaker> Thanks! But I already knew that.20:42
wxljust wanted to be sure!20:42
wxlthey don't ALWAYS follow expectations20:42
wxlfor example discover is not discover.desktop but org.kde.discover.desktop20:45
lubot<The_LoudSpeaker> @wxl [<wxl> for example discover is not discover.desktop but org.kde.discover.desktop], 'ls -a' in that folder showed me this21:01
lubot<The_LoudSpeaker> Also, for .deb files default app in 19.04 is ___?21:03
lubot<The_LoudSpeaker> Also, vlc is provided by default right? @kc2bez ?21:05
wxlthis might be helpful for other things but let me look https://phab.lubuntu.me/w/bugs/21:05
wxlyes vlc is the one21:05
lubot<The_LoudSpeaker> @The_LoudSpeaker [Also, for .deb files default app in 19.04 is ___?], ? also which app replaces roller in 19.04 for compressed files?21:06
wxlark if i remember correctly.. see the above page.. it has almost everything21:07
lubot<The_LoudSpeaker> @wxl [<wxl> ark if i remember correctly.. see the above page.. it has almost everythin …], k.21:08
wxl@The_LoudSpeaker discover opens .debs21:11
lubot<The_LoudSpeaker> @wxl [<wxl> @The_LoudSpeaker discover opens .debs], thought so. already edited21:13
wxl@The_LoudSpeaker if you find anything not on that list, let me know and i'll add it21:14
lubot<The_LoudSpeaker> yeah. sure.21:14
wxl@The_LoudSpeaker btw all i had to do was `touch foo.deb` and then try to open it with stuff to figure that out X''D21:17
lubot<The_LoudSpeaker> @wxl [<wxl> @The_LoudSpeaker btw all i had to do was `touch foo.deb` and then try to o …], whaaaaat!! Noice.21:17
lubot<The_LoudSpeaker> Any idea what was glade-2.desktop in 18.04 for? and it's replacement in 19.04?21:18
lubot<The_LoudSpeaker> Lite. figured it out. It's not present in 19.04. Am I right wxl?21:19
wxlis that the gtk ui builder?21:20
lubot<The_LoudSpeaker> yes21:20
wxli'm pretty sure we don't have the qt ui builder installed so yeah nevermind that21:21
lubot<The_LoudSpeaker> also same question for totem.desktop?21:21
wxllike i said that defaults.list is most likely a gnome thing that we (well, this was when gilir was the primary developer) tweaked for lubuntu21:21
wxlvlc21:22
lubot<The_LoudSpeaker> @wxl [<wxl> vlc], k.21:22
wxli thought we had removed that in lieu of mplayer a long time ago, so that's strange21:22
wxland then we switched to gnome-mpv21:22
wxlbut again that's a gnome thing21:22
wxlmisc/ultravox might not actually work in vlc21:23
wxlwe might want to leave that out of mimeapps.list21:23
lubot<The_LoudSpeaker> @wxl [<wxl> we might want to leave that out of mimeapps.list], okay21:23
lubot<The_LoudSpeaker> last time, same question for apturl.desktop21:23
wxlcorrection, it looks like vlc can handle it21:23
lubot<The_LoudSpeaker> @wxl [<wxl> correction, it looks like vlc can handle it], noted.21:24
lubot<The_LoudSpeaker> @The_LoudSpeaker [last time, same question for apturl.desktop], ?21:24
wxli think nothing, really21:25
wxlapturl is gtk-specific21:25
lubot<The_LoudSpeaker> @wxl [<wxl> i think nothing, really], Okay after this I am done for the file. checked every one of 180 lines. How should I save it and package it?21:25
lubot<The_LoudSpeaker> More Importantly, how do I check if it worked?21:26
lubot<The_LoudSpeaker> Should I replace it with mimeapps.list in my running build and try 'touch foo.pdf' and open it?21:27
wxlwell you can install it on a virtual machine, reboot and click on some things and see if they open with the right thing21:28
wxlyeah you could create or download example files (or search the drive for one) and then open it up in the file manager21:30
lubot<The_LoudSpeaker> I replaced the original mimeapps.list in my running disco installation. Don't have a vm ready now. I downloaded a couple of .deb and .pptx files from cms. Worked!21:36
lubot<The_LoudSpeaker> pdf also working.21:36
lubot<The_LoudSpeaker> I hope all's good. wxl. Now how do I push this change up? do I directly edit the mimeapps.list in the cloned git repo of lubuntu-default-settings and use git push?21:38
lubot<The_LoudSpeaker> please reply fast anyone. i have a test in less than 5 hours at 8 in morning! Quantum mechanics is gonna kill me today ;-;21:39
wxli'm working on editing the instructions so go study for a bit :)21:40
lubot<The_LoudSpeaker> Thanks!21:41
lubot<The_LoudSpeaker> Bye. Have a nice day!21:41
-lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [T3: Provide complete mimeapps.list] The_LoudSpeaker (Raman Sarda) commented on the task: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T3#48321:48
-lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [T43: Add `ufw` to default-installed packages list] tsimonq2 (Simon Quigley) commented on the task: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T43#48421:49
lubot<The_LoudSpeaker> Just mention me wxl when you want me to push the file.21:49
-lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [T3: Provide complete mimeapps.list] wxl (Walter Lapchynski) commented on the task: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T3#48521:50
-lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [T36: Fix full disk encryption on BIOS systems] tsimonq2 (Simon Quigley) commented on the task: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T36#48621:52
lubot<HMollerCl> @wxl [<wxl> @The_LoudSpeaker discover opens .debs], but we we added qpt-deb-installer for .deb22:12
lubot<HMollerCl> better than discovery22:12
-lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [T3: Provide complete mimeapps.list] The_LoudSpeaker (Raman Sarda) commented on the task: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T3#48722:13
-lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [T3: Provide complete mimeapps.list] hmollercl (Hans P. Möller) commented on the task: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T3#48822:15
tsimonq2wxl: Thoughts on bug 1823683?23:02
ubot93Bug 1823683 in qterminal (Ubuntu) "qterminal emulation type should be 'default'" [Undecided, New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/182368323:02
wxl@tsimonq2: probably true23:15
lynorianHmollerCL great a new app for the manual?23:39
wxlok that took forever23:41
wxlhere you go @The_LoudSpeaker https://phab.lubuntu.me/w/packaging/packagingtutorial/23:41
lubot<The_LoudSpeaker> @wxl [<wxl> here you go @The_LoudSpeaker https://phab.lubuntu.me/w/packaging/packaging …], Will look it up.23:41
wxlthere's a fair amount of reading there23:42
wxlmake sure to do it or it won't make sense :)23:42

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