[00:02] <tsimonq2> That'd be before my time.
[00:02] <tsimonq2> pleia2: ^
[00:06] <pleia2> I don't remember running one for readers
[00:07] <pleia2> we did one for summwry writers and like 2 people filled it out ;)
[00:13] <Bashing-om> Would we be able to "click here" to get a idea of how many even read the letter ?
[00:24] <Wild_Man> Let me see if I can find it, it was in 2010 I think
[00:24] <pleia2> people hate surveys
[00:28] <Wild_Man> I do too
[00:30] <Bashing-om> Wild_Man: This ? : https://askubuntu.com/questions/36734/what-happened-to-the-ubuntu-weekly-newsletter
[00:32] <Wild_Man> That is the one with the survey, it turned out several replies
[00:33] <Wild_Man> I knew I showed it to you but I could not find the link tonight Bashing-om
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[00:41] <Wild_Man> pleia2, that is the link ^^^
[00:42] <pleia2> ah yes, that was before I was very involved too, when akgraner ran things
[00:42] <pleia2> that is a lot of responses!
[00:43] <Wild_Man> It really is and that is what Bashing-om is thinking about
[00:43] <pleia2> I'd probably use a Google Form to run another one
[00:43] <pleia2> theyeasy to set up
[00:43] <pleia2> they're free and easy to set up
[00:43] <Wild_Man> Is that like a google doc?
[00:44] <pleia2> yeah, it's just a type of google doc
[00:44] <Wild_Man> The survey should run for 10 to 14 days if we do it?
[00:44] <pleia2> "Google Forms"
[00:45] <Wild_Man> Okay, I can look that up
[00:45] <pleia2> I'd probably give it a few weeks, to catch people on vacation and whatnot
[00:46] <Wild_Man> 4 should do it
[00:47]  * pleia2 nods
[00:47] <Wild_Man> Bashing-om, any suggestions or questions?
[00:48] <Wild_Man> pleia2, how is your baby doing?
[00:49] <pleia2> he's good :) just turned 3 months old on Saturday, growing so fast!
[00:49] <Bashing-om> Wild_Man: Above my pay grade to implement - All I do now is monkey-see moonkey-do. But whatever we can do to foster UWN is a good thing.
[00:49] <pleia2> and now he's woken up from his nap ;) so I'm back on baby duty
[00:50] <Wild_Man> That is awwesome pleia2, kids forever change your life, thanks for your inpyt
[00:50] <Wild_Man> input
[00:50] <Wild_Man> If you want to do this we need to see if krytarik is on board
[00:53] <krytarik> Wild_Man: 1.) I'd only do anything like that if it'd yield anything more than just how many of the thousands of subscribers can be bothered to confirm that they actually read the newsletter too.  2.) Those calling for this to be done should run it too.
[00:54] <krytarik> (Woops, forgot to ping the other one too..)
[00:56] <Bashing-om> krytarik: Wild_Man : :) .. Would be nice just to know that we are read .. a simple count from a click link woulld give some indication.
[00:56] <krytarik> Yes - how many can be bothered to click a link.
[00:57] <Wild_Man> That is what Bashing-om is hoping to get an idea of how many people are actually reading the letter, I am not sure if it will be representative of the actual numbers or not, we probably need a numbers person to say how many of the people that read the letter will actually take the survey then that should give us a true number, probably only about 5 to 10 percent will take the survey would be my guess
[01:01] <krytarik> But since I'd wager that it's impossible to say what share of the subscribers do confirm that they are reading the newsletter too, imo it's pretty pointless to run a contentless poll in the first place - it'd just mean work for those running it with no clear outcome at all.
[01:05] <krytarik> However, if those wanting to run it, accept the latter and do the work - then I'm fine with it being done.
[01:10] <Bashing-om> krytarik: For me chasing after a poll is but 2 more clicks in the rounds I make for UWN production now. As to any benefits ( or filtering) I am in no postition to judge.
[01:11] <Wild_Man> We will discuss it, I am busy all week until at least
[01:11] <Wild_Man> Friday
[01:16] <krytarik> Bashing-om, Wild_Man: To be clear, that's between the both of you to figure it out - if you manage to do it on your own, that's fine with me.
[01:16] <Wild_Man> krytarik, I know
[01:19] <krytarik> I don't remember what position guiverc had on it, but of course he is free to help with it too.
[01:19] <guiverc> i doubt i could offer anything (position or help wise)
[01:23] <krytarik> guiverc: I mean do you think a bare click count would give you anything there?  Short of a magic number to extrapolate it to the actual reader count?
[01:26] <guiverc> by position I was thinking view/thoughts or anything more; no i cannot see how we'd get anything meaningful, recall still the issue 500 milestone & attempts to get responses... ubuntu things are no different to elsewhere in real life, people mean to respond, but rarely don't get distracted & forget to respond as they intended
[01:36] <Bashing-om> krytarik: Any heartburn if I comment on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuWeeklyNewsletter/Ideas for the 2 listed requests ? Might help if I pay more attention there ?
[01:38] <krytarik> Well, since I still get no notifications on any wiki changes at all, good that you spotted it at least! :P  So yeah, if you want to reply there - sure, feel free to.
[01:39] <Bashing-om> krytarik: :)
[01:57] <krytarik> Bashing-om: I see the 'To:' and 'Subject:' fields made it into the newsletter mail body again. >_>
[01:59] <Bashing-om> krytarik: I did think I was very careful and checking .. Hummm wonder where they are coming from ?
[02:00] <krytarik> I'll tell you where from: Ctrl+a → Ctrl+c → Ctrl+v! :P
[02:01] <Bashing-om> krytarik: Yes but I am sure that I do go back and cut the extraineous fileds .
[02:03] <krytarik> Well, most of the time it does seem to work out, so.. >_>
[02:05] <Bashing-om> krytarik: I will for sure exert greater attention in the future - triple check that Ctl-x where it needs to be :)
[02:08] <krytarik> If you insist on using Ctrl+x too, here is an idea that should make it impossible for the fields to be both in the mail body and the actual fields: Just feed the latter from the first! :P
[02:09] <krytarik> No need for an extra Ctrl+c on those either then!
[02:22] <Bashing-om> I do have lots to look our for and lots to learn :)
[02:28] <krytarik> You mean like efficiency at work? :P
[02:29] <krytarik> "Surely we can save a few more steps in the workflow!"
[02:32] <Bashing-om> LOL yeah - something akin to that.
[02:47] <Wild_Man> Bashing-om, you did receive the email today about "David on his successful ubuntu-budgie packageset
[02:47] <Wild_Man> uploader application!" right?
[02:49] <Bashing-om> Wild_Man: Lemme check my in-Box :(
[02:50] <Bashing-om> Wild_Man: Yup .. and more stuff for UWN needs my attention :)
[02:51] <Wild_Man> Bashing-om, good, I figured you did
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[20:35] <Bashing-om> Hello julientm :)
[20:36] <julientm> Hey Bashing-om
[20:36] <julientm> just getting introduced to the ubuntu community.
[20:37] <Bashing-om> julientm: Well that is a good thing . Have you met #ubuntu and other related channels ?
[20:37] <julientm> yeah been lounging in the channels for like a day or so now
[20:39] <Bashing-om> julientm: I learned a lot "lurking" about . Feel free to ask of us anything ubuntu related - help is what we do :P
[20:39] <julientm> Thank you Bashing, great community and warm welcome so far.
[20:40] <Bashing-om> julientm: 'Tis :) Best of open source.
[21:35] <Wild_Man> Welcome julientm, happy you are here.
[21:35] <julientm> Thank you Wild_Man !
[21:35] <Wild_Man> You are most welcome
[21:36] <Wild_Man> I have to get busy again but will be back later, Hello Bashing-om and guiverc
[21:36] <julientm> it is pretty nice here to be honest okay ttyl
[21:36] <Bashing-om> Wild_Man: I be here for the duration :)
[21:37] <Wild_Man> Bashing-om, I figured you would be
[21:37] <Wild_Man> I hope to be done soon
[21:37] <Bashing-om> Wild_Man: Not much at all going on .. slow Tueday all over :)
[21:38] <Wild_Man> I am going to be busy the rest of the week until at least Saturday
[21:39] <Bashing-om> Wild_Man: And guiverc Has this week-end all covered up for him ... You know where the load then lies :D
[21:40] <Wild_Man> Bashing-om, I saw him post that, and yes I do
[21:40] <Wild_Man> Maybe you will get some help
[21:41] <Wild_Man> I am afk for a while
[21:41] <Bashing-om> Wild_Man: It's ubuntu - All things are possible - even qualified help comming our way .