| beaver | hello, i have question | 00:37 |
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| beaver | okay :), can I be awarded a cloak, who distinguishes my "paternity" with my bot ubotu|packages?, for example : /founder/bot/ubuntu/ubotu-search ? | 00:38 |
| beaver | my robot is recognized here : https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/Bots | 00:39 |
| beaver | emerson tell me privately -> 04/09/19 02:36:57 <*-emerson> It depends on what the ubuntu IRC Council says, they are the only ones who can request an ubuntu/ cloak | 00:40 |
| beaver | I think I'm in the right place | 00:42 |
| beaver | i think i'm a trusted user, niko can testify | 01:10 |
| Unit193 | The namespace has to be first, ubuntu/founder certainly isn't right. If you'd like to apply for Ubuntu membership, we can give you the usual ubuntu/member/beaver though. | 01:11 |
| beaver | ok it suits me, thank you for trust | 01:14 |
| beaver | and sorry for my bad english | 01:15 |
| beaver | i have to stay on the channel ? | 01:21 |
| krytarik | beaver: Are you already an Ubuntu Member then? | 01:24 |
| krytarik | !membership | 01:24 |
| ubottu | Ubuntu Membership means recognition of a significant and sustained contribution to Ubuntu and the Ubuntu community. For more info see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Membership/NewMember | 01:24 |
| krytarik | If so, please link your Launchpad profile. | 01:25 |
| beaver | I have no launchpad page | 01:26 |
| beaver | I just have a profile here: https://doc.ubuntu-fr.org/users/beaver | 01:27 |
| beaver | oops https://doc.ubuntu-fr.org/utilisateurs/beaver (sorry) | 01:27 |
| beaver | no, i am not Ubuntu member | 01:30 |
| beaver | I am looking for a cloak, in correlation with my bot | 01:31 |
| beaver | if possible | 01:31 |
| hggdh | beaver: cloaks are provided at #freenode, not here. Ubuntu cloaks are dealt with t #ubuntu-irc (also not here) | 01:32 |
| beaver | ok thank you | 01:32 |
| hggdh | beaver: and an Ubuntu cloak is only given to Ubuntu members | 01:32 |
| hggdh | beaver: so your best option is to go /join #freenode, and ask there | 01:33 |
| beaver | my bot has a cloak ubuntu/ | 01:33 |
| shibboleth | i am seemingly still muted in the main channel? | 16:49 |
| CarlFK | shibboleth: I don't know. Did you do something to get muted? | 16:53 |
| shibboleth | well, i did "voice concern" about how fwupd updates were handled in bionic | 16:53 |
| shibboleth | like... over a week ago | 16:54 |
| hggdh | shibboleth: yes. And we asked you to stop, and explained why. | 17:00 |
| hggdh | shibboleth: multiple times, by the way | 17:00 |
| hggdh | shibboleth: do you understand *why* you were quieted? | 17:00 |
| shibboleth | you asked me to refrain from any further profanity | 17:00 |
| shibboleth | profanity | 17:00 |
| hggdh | and to keep on-topic | 17:00 |
| shibboleth | how was what i way saying "not" on-topic? | 17:01 |
| hggdh | and you did not, so I had no other option but to quiet you | 17:01 |
| CarlFK | shibboleth: please read over https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/Guidelines (again, now.) | 17:01 |
| shibboleth | =i did. please point out the section pointing out that pushing questionable new features as a security update=totally not an issue and therefore not on topic? | 17:04 |
| CarlFK | shibboleth: both you and everyone here are volunteers. If you can't figure it out, you won't get much help. | 17:05 |
| shibboleth | and how do those two sentences tie in with what happened then and now? | 17:06 |
| hggdh | shibboleth: there are other channels more appropriate for discussing security, or package policies. #ubuntu is for *support* | 17:06 |
| hggdh | shibboleth: and I *did* point you to one such channel, and sugguested you to discuss it with developers. You refused | 17:07 |
| shibboleth | ok, but there is hardly any activity in -hardened and -kernel | 17:07 |
| CarlFK | "Recommendations from channel operators" | 17:08 |
| hggdh | both channels also deal with specific points. For the record, every time I asked on either I was answered. | 17:08 |
| shibboleth | and whenever a real issue is brought up ops are quick to refer to those, basically giving users the cable-company-runaround | 17:08 |
| shibboleth | "please hold" :) | 17:09 |
| hggdh | although I disagree, we are not, here and now, discussing if you are told to wait or not. We are, or so I expect, discussing *why* a moderator had to act | 17:10 |
| shibboleth | no | 17:11 |
| shibboleth | i get why it happened | 17:11 |
| shibboleth | but i'm surprised it is still the case a week later | 17:11 |
| hggdh | shibboleth: OK. You understand why it happened. Will you keep on-topic, and mind your language? | 17:12 |
| shibboleth | yes. can i kindly ask that you at least consider the urge to knee-jerk "other channel" every time you simply can't think of a good answer?= | 17:13 |
| CarlFK | shibboleth: you answered my simple question with ... "they may imply skepticism or disagreement" https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scare_quotes | 17:14 |
| shibboleth | fwupd and lvfs *can* be great for say dell server operators who don't run windows bare-metal | 17:15 |
| shibboleth | but making firmware "changes" that easy on everyone and their moms box will lead to blood and tears | 17:16 |
| shibboleth | and releasing the mechanism for that as a "security update" is questionable. | 17:16 |
| hggdh | shibboleth: and this is the wrong channel to discuss this. Again. | 17:17 |
| hggdh | shibboleth: anyway, I un-quieted you at #ubuntu | 17:17 |
| shibboleth | thanks, i noticed | 17:17 |
| hggdh | shibboleth: now, please keep in mind that the CoC *is* to be followed (not only at #ubuntu, but on all of the Ubuntu IRC namespace) | 17:19 |
| hggdh | shibboleth: is there anything else we can do for you? If not, please /part; this channel is a no-idling channel | 17:20 |
| shibboleth | 10-4 | 17:21 |
| ubottu | In #lubuntu, won said: !ping is a command .... | 18:03 |
| stevendale | Oh Unit193 owns TheRedQueen, was worried I'd have to welcome a new member of the op team | 23:54 |
| stevendale | Well congrats on making a bot Unit193 | 23:54 |
| Unit193 | Been there for years, mate. | 23:54 |
| stevendale | Oh it was Drone all along | 23:54 |
| * stevendale faints | 23:55 | |
| Unit193 | Anything we can help you with? | 23:55 |
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