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-lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [T21: Our xscreensaver theme is too old] wxl (Walter Lapchynski) commented on the task: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T21#59400:19
-lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [T49: 19.04 Release Notes] tsimonq2 (Simon Quigley) just created this task: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T4900:22
lubot<tsimonq2> The release is in one week, folks. We've now entered final freeze. We need some brave souls to go through everything we've done in the past 6 months to prepare a release announcement. … More details can be found here: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T4900:22
-lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [Unbreak Now!, Open] 19.04 Release Notes: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T4900:22
lubot<acheronuk> @tsimonq2 [The release is in one week, folks. We've now entered final freeze. We need some …], Freeze is tomorow00:25
-lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rMANUAL4486495aafa9: Start annotations sections of lximage] lynorian (Lyn Perrine) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rMANUAL4486495aafa900:26
lubot<tsimonq2> @acheronuk [Freeze is tomorow], Close enough :P00:26
lubot<acheronuk> close enough to get a software-properties upload done00:27
lubot* acheronuk runs00:27
lubot<tsimonq2> @acheronuk [close enough to get a software-properties upload done], You mean the one that's been waiting in the queue for several hours now?00:27
-lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [T21: Our xscreensaver theme is too old] wxl (Walter Lapchynski) commented on the task: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T21#60300:28
lubot<acheronuk> @tsimonq2 [You mean the one that's been waiting in the queue for several hours now?], Thanks. Not been watching the queue message tonight00:28
-lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [T21: Our xscreensaver theme is too old] tsimonq2 (Simon Quigley) commented on the task: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T21#60400:28
lubot<tsimonq2> @acheronuk [Thanks. Not been watching the queue message tonight], np :)00:28
-lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [T21: Our xscreensaver theme is too old] kc2bez (Dan Simmons) commented on the task: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T21#60600:30
-lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rMANUAL2000cf0d1d5a: Finish annotation buttons for lximage] lynorian (Lyn Perrine) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rMANUAL2000cf0d1d5a00:31
-lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [T21: Our xscreensaver theme is too old] tsimonq2 (Simon Quigley) commented on the task: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T21#60700:32
lubot<The_LoudSpeaker> @lugito [<lugito>  3[  13T21: Our xscreensaver theme is too old  3]   15tsimonq2 (Simon Q …], Will look it up tomorrow. Gonna have a walk now.00:33
lubot<tsimonq2> Sounds good!00:34
-lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [T21: Our xscreensaver theme is too old] wxl (Walter Lapchynski) commented on the task: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T21#60800:35
-lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rCALAPACKAGING3758f97ccd03: Restore button updates in partition page.] tsimonq2 (Simon Quigley) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rCALAPACKAGING3758f97ccd0300:35
-lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [T21: Our xscreensaver theme is too old] wxl (Walter Lapchynski) commented on the task: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T21#61200:37
-queuebot:#lubuntu-devel- Unapproved: calamares (disco-proposed/universe) [3.2.4-0ubuntu1 => 3.2.4-0ubuntu2] (lubuntu)00:37
-lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [T21: Our xscreensaver theme is too old] wxl (Walter Lapchynski) commented on the task: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T21#61300:37
-lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rCALASETTINGS053817ff0e59: Lower the minimum RAM requirements.] tsimonq2 (Simon Quigley) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rCALASETTINGS053817ff0e5900:38
wxloooh kc2bez i didn't know you could set "Maniphest Tasks" in the Differential description to get tasks to autoclose upon commit.00:40
-queuebot:#lubuntu-devel- Unapproved: calamares-settings-ubuntu (disco-proposed/universe) [1:19.04.3 => 1:19.04.4] (lubuntu)00:40
kc2bezI saw that, pretty cool but we can't forget to test it too.00:41
wxltrue00:42
wxlok headed home00:42
kc2bezttyl wxl00:42
-lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rMANUAL4bd239943455: Add new screenshot for lximage] lynorian (Lyn Perrine) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rMANUAL4bd23994345500:51
lubot<The_LoudSpeaker> @wxl [<wxl> ok headed home], Bye!01:03
guiverc_d19.04 daily:  'safe graphics' implies to me it should boot on all, i can't get it to test-boot on nvidia quadro 600 (but normal is great)01:22
lubot<HMollerCl> wxl: added context on why leave only libreoffice-gtk3 https://phab.lubuntu.me/D201:50
-lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [Needs Review] Remove libreoffice-kde5 because his file picker doesn't add file extension: https://phab.lubuntu.me/D201:50
wxl@tsimonq2 shall i upload https://phab.lubuntu.me/D202:49
-lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [Accepted] Remove libreoffice-kde5 because his file picker doesn't add file extension: https://phab.lubuntu.me/D202:49
wxl?02:49
lubot<tsimonq2> @wxl [<wxl> @tsimonq2 shall i upload https://phab.lubuntu.me/D2], It's the seed; go ahead02:50
-lugito:#lubuntu-devel- Error: D2], is an invalid task reference.02:50
-lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rSEED2263c1379c80: Remove libreoffice-kde5 because his file picker doesn't add file extension] wxl (Walter Lapchynski) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rSEED2263c1379c8002:52
wxl@tsimonq2: we don't have usb-creator in our repos?03:06
lubot<tsimonq2> I dunno03:06
wxli mean we don't03:06
wxlwhy not?03:06
lubot<tsimonq2> I don't knoe03:08
wxlyou're useless XD03:08
wxlit's non-functional03:08
wxlhttps://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/usb-creator/+bug/162971503:08
ubot93Ubuntu bug 1629715 in usb-creator (Ubuntu) "kde version shows the install popup after a few seconds of launching (without chosing the iso)" [Undecided, Confirmed]03:08
lubot<tsimonq2> @wxl [<wxl> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/usb-creator/+bug/1629715], OH03:12
lubot<tsimonq2> Cooool03:13
lubot<tsimonq2> Release blocker or nah?03:13
wxli think we should fix it03:13
lubot<tsimonq2> I mean...03:13
wxlit's pretty crappy to have an app that doesn't work AT ALL03:13
lubot<tsimonq2> For 19.04?03:13
wxlwe got a patch. i bet we can just bang it out03:13
lubot<tsimonq2> ok bet XD03:14
wxlworth a shot03:14
lubot<tsimonq2> Why don't you have upload access to it???03:15
lubot<tsimonq2> http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/packagesets/disco/lubuntu03:15
lubot<tsimonq2> I was just gonna pawn it off on you XD03:15
wxlWHY DO WE HVE GOLANG OMG03:15
wxlanyways XD03:15
wxlyeah that kind of sucks03:16
wxli can do the work but it'll be up to you to upload03:16
lubot* tsimonq2 blames @bashfulrobot (who isn't here on Telegram)03:16
lubot<tsimonq2> Mmkay03:16
lubot<tsimonq2> Sounds good03:16
wxlseriously DO you know why we have golang?03:16
lubot<tsimonq2> Nooope03:17
wxli'm going to make a task for that03:17
lubot<tsimonq2> cyphermox: ^03:17
lubot<tsimonq2> It's technically a DMB thing03:17
lubot<tsimonq2> cyphermox usually does it though03:17
wxlif we can avoid it i think that would be good because the less we have to be responsible for the better03:18
lubot<tsimonq2> ok03:19
-lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [T50: figure out why we have golang in our packageset] wxl (Walter Lapchynski) just created this task: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T5003:49
-lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [T51: fix usb-creator-kde] wxl (Walter Lapchynski) just created this task: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T5104:21
-lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rMANUALf5c94975cf39: Add save with same file name] lynorian (Lyn Perrine) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rMANUALf5c94975cf3904:31
-lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [T51: fix usb-creator-kde] wxl (Walter Lapchynski) commented on the task: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T51#63005:33
guiverc_dfyi:  4 of my 19.04 bugs I've just confirmed also occur on opensuse tumbleweed; ie. upstream (i'd previously confirmed a different one also occurred in debian-testing before now)05:39
wxlGOOD WORK guiverc_d 05:41
wxlthat's the sort of extra legwork we really need05:41
guiverc_di stuffed my 'leap' on hp8200; so used that to switch to tumbleweed; 'newer' so was more b/c of leap dying..05:43
guiverc_d(no i haven't yet reported them on bugzilla.opensuse.org; but intend to)05:45
wxlthat would be super awesome05:46
-lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rMANUALf24cf7e16222: Add how to actually show thumbnails] lynorian (Lyn Perrine) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rMANUALf24cf7e1622205:50
-lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rMANUAL700bba527919: Fix Capitization] lynorian (Lyn Perrine) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rMANUAL700bba52791905:57
-lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rMANUAL2852795c3b3e: Add show EXIF data] lynorian (Lyn Perrine) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rMANUAL2852795c3b3e06:13
-lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [T51: fix usb-creator-kde] wxl (Walter Lapchynski) commented on the task: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T51#63206:28
guiverc_dis there a task on [testing] upgrading 18.10 to 19.04 somewhere?06:51
=== guiverc_d is now known as guiverc
-queuebot:#lubuntu-devel- Unapproved: accepted lubuntu-default-settings [source] (disco-proposed) [19.04.2]10:37
cyphermoxwxl: tsimonq2: I think it's because you wanted ubuntu-report13:10
cyphermoxit also looks like an error in the packageset generation13:11
-lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [T48: nm-tray icons] hmollercl (Hans P. Möller) commented on the task: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T48#63314:19
-lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [T51: fix usb-creator-kde] tsimonq2 (Simon Quigley) commented on the task: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T51#63414:40
-lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [T3: Provide complete mimeapps.list] tsimonq2 (Simon Quigley) commented on the task: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T3#63514:41
-lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [T44: add python3-launchpadlib to live seed] tsimonq2 (Simon Quigley) commented on the task: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T44#63614:42
-lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [T15: Fix software-properties-qt under other DEs] tsimonq2 (Simon Quigley) commented on the task: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T15#63714:42
-lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [T4: Make it lighter] hmollercl (Hans P. Möller) commented on the task: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T4#63914:43
-lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [T36: Fix full disk encryption on BIOS systems] tsimonq2 (Simon Quigley) commented on the task: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T36#64014:48
-lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [T48: nm-tray icons] tsimonq2 (Simon Quigley) commented on the task: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T48#64114:51
-lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [T15: Fix software-properties-qt under other DEs] rikmills (Rik Mills) commented on the task: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T15#64214:52
-lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [T15: Fix software-properties-qt under other DEs] tsimonq2 (Simon Quigley) commented on the task: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T15#64314:54
-lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [T4: Make it lighter] tsimonq2 (Simon Quigley) commented on the task: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T4#64514:56
-lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [T50: figure out why we have golang in our packageset] tsimonq2 (Simon Quigley) commented on the task: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T50#64615:02
lubot<HMollerCl> @acheronuk could you tell us if solution for software-properties fixed the problem with discover?15:16
lubot<HMollerCl> also, what does kubuntu use for printer management?15:17
lubot<HMollerCl> isntead of system-config-printer15:20
-lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [T15: Fix software-properties-qt under other DEs] hmollercl (Hans P. Möller) commented on the task: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T15#64715:35
-lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [T15: Fix software-properties-qt under other DEs] rikmills (Rik Mills) commented on the task: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T15#64815:50
-lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [T15: Fix software-properties-qt under other DEs] hmollercl (Hans P. Möller) commented on the task: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T15#64915:53
-lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [T15: Fix software-properties-qt under other DEs] rikmills (Rik Mills) commented on the task: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T15#65015:55
lubot<acheronuk> important packaging lesson!16:06
-lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [T15: Fix software-properties-qt under other DEs] wxl (Walter Lapchynski) commented on the task: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T15#65216:11
-lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [T51: fix usb-creator-kde] wxl (Walter Lapchynski) commented on the task: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T51#65316:12
-lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [T51: fix usb-creator-kde] tsimonq2 (Simon Quigley) commented on the task: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T51#65416:16
-lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [T51: fix usb-creator-kde] wxl (Walter Lapchynski) commented on the task: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T51#65516:17
-lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [T51: fix usb-creator-kde] tsimonq2 (Simon Quigley) commented on the task: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T51#65616:19
-lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [T51: fix usb-creator-kde] wxl (Walter Lapchynski) commented on the task: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T51#65716:20
-lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [T51: fix usb-creator-kde] tsimonq2 (Simon Quigley) commented on the task: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T51#65816:23
-lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [T15: Fix software-properties-qt under other DEs] rikmills (Rik Mills) commented on the task: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T15#65916:28
-lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rCALAPACKAGINGc2295028e2f2: Cherry-pick several beneficial upstream patches.] tsimonq2 (Simon Quigley) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rCALAPACKAGINGc2295028e2f217:42
-lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rCALAPACKAGINGe82a7250fa61: Upload to Disco.] tsimonq2 (Simon Quigley) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rCALAPACKAGINGe82a7250fa6117:42
-queuebot:#lubuntu-devel- Unapproved: calamares (disco-proposed/universe) [3.2.4-0ubuntu2 => 3.2.4-0ubuntu3] (lubuntu)17:43
lubot<tsimonq2> @HMollerCl software-properties uploaded17:51
lubot<HMollerCl> @tsimonq2 [@HMollerCl software-properties uploaded], the .install ?18:08
lubot<tsimonq2> Yes18:08
lubot<HMollerCl> thanks! that's why when I was proposing merge it gave 0 diff.18:09
lubot<HMollerCl> @acheronuk [important packaging lesson!], yup, still studing https://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/maint-guide/index.en.html18:10
-lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [T15: Fix software-properties-qt under other DEs] rikmills (Rik Mills) commented on the task: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T15#66018:10
-lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [T15: Fix software-properties-qt under other DEs] hmollercl (Hans P. Möller) commented on the task: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T15#66118:12
lubot<acheronuk> building things in sbuild/pbuilder or a ppa, and checking that your changes really do what you hoped, is also a good idea18:12
lubot<HMollerCl> @acheronuk [building things in sbuild/pbuilder or a ppa, and checking that your changes real …], I will pin this message to look at it.18:13
lubot<HMollerCl> @HMollerCl [I will pin this message to look at it.], i mean save18:14
wxl@tsimonq2: i saw you assign and set up the usb-creator-kde bug but i never heard back from release team19:37
lubot<tsimonq2> @wxl [<wxl> @tsimonq2: i saw you assign and set up the usb-creator-kde bug but i never …], Poke again XD19:38
lubot<tsimonq2> Adam *and* Steve?19:38
-lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rMANUALd29f41de83c8: Add keyboard shortcuts for rotating] lynorian (Lyn Perrine) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rMANUALd29f41de83c819:55
wxlwaiting for response still19:55
lubot<tsimonq2> Poke harder? :)19:56
wxl:/19:57
lubot<UniversalSuperBox> I saw that @tsimonq219:58
tsimonq2!patience19:58
ubot93Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. While you wait, try searching https://help.ubuntu.com or https://ubuntuforums.org or https://askubuntu.com/19:58
tsimonq2XD19:58
lubotJoseMarcosGarcia was added by: JoseMarcosGarcia20:01
-lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rMANUALc425bb8e7287: Add keyboard shortcuts for flipping] lynorian (Lyn Perrine) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rMANUALc425bb8e728720:02
wxltsimonq2: there you go.. looks like the all-in-one SRU is the way to go but they probably won't support a 0 day20:04
-lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rMANUAL4ac7ee1fdc18: Add keyboard shortcut to exit lximage] lynorian (Lyn Perrine) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rMANUAL4ac7ee1fdc1820:07
-lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rMANUAL2a06c12268dc: make 19.04 19.04] lynorian (Lyn Perrine) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rMANUAL2a06c12268dc20:11
-lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [T51: fix usb-creator-kde] wxl (Walter Lapchynski) commented on the task: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T51#66220:12
-lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rMANUAL0090c80f0aa9: Fix warning] lynorian (Lyn Perrine) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rMANUAL0090c80f0aa920:21
-lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rMANUALb768e6237062: Add description os sidebar choices better] lynorian (Lyn Perrine) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rMANUALb768e623706220:31
-lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rMANUAL26c91be72d3b: Add split view to pcmanfm-qt] lynorian (Lyn Perrine) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rMANUAL26c91be72d3b20:51
-lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rMANUAL6ef953ede22f: Add show hide fileterbar and new screenshot] lynorian (Lyn Perrine) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rMANUAL6ef953ede22f21:12
lynorianmeeting time?21:12
wxloh yeah21:12
wxlforgot all about that21:12
wxli got a huge list. i should almost pastebin the thing X'D21:13
wxl@tsimonq2: meeting meeting meeting21:13
lubot<teward001> ANTI-MEETING :P21:15
wxloh stop21:15
lubot<teward001> :P21:15
wxllet's just do this thing21:15
wxlwho's here?21:15
kc2bezo/21:15
lubot<teward001> apparently not SImon :)21:15
lynorian\o21:15
wxlok so we got this:21:17
wxlargh21:17
wxlshuf: invalid input range: ‘teward’21:17
wxlreally21:17
lubot<teward001> well i am an invalid range :)21:18
wxlteward21:18
wxlkc2bez21:18
wxllynorian21:18
wxlwxl21:18
wxlthere21:18
wxlgo21:18
lubot<teward001> I also forget what I had mentioned last time :D21:18
* wxl facepalms21:18
lubot<teward001> someone else go i'm still compiling my list from this week21:18
wxlkc2bez is up21:18
kc2bezSubmitted patch for https://phab.lubuntu.me/T40 bug 182356921:19
kc2bezTested https://phab.lubuntu.me/T2 when it was in proposed.21:19
kc2bezHope to knock out some more testing of things tonight.21:19
-lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [Unbreak Now!, Resolved] Cala segfault when performing action with no selection: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T4021:19
-lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [High, Resolved] Fix EFI encryption: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T221:19
ubot93Bug 1823569 in calamares (Ubuntu) "Lubuntu 19.04 beta -  SegFault from manual partitioning when 'Create' or 'Edit' clicked on with no partition selected" [Medium, Fix Released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/182356921:19
kc2bezEyes and ears open here following along, helping where I can.21:19
wxldid that segfault fix get tested?21:20
lynorianhow does one test that?21:20
kc2bezI tested before I submitted the patch.21:20
kc2bezBut not again today.21:21
wxlprobably good then, but the steps to reproduce the error are in the bug lynorian 21:21
wxlmight want to just double check21:21
kc2bezHope to get it done tonight.21:21
wxlnice job, kc2bez. those were two thorny ones. you did well.21:21
wxlanything else?21:21
kc2bezThanks, that is it from me.21:22
wxllynorian you're up21:22
lynorianok I need multiple versions of the manual still tried looking into the sphinx extension that failed21:23
wxl^^^ TEWARD!!!!!!21:23
lynorianso I had hoped teward would get read the docs set up21:23
lubot<teward001> Lubuntu Council will see this tracker item for that: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T3721:24
lubot<teward001> (Infrastructure tasks are not currently public)21:24
lubot<teward001> still figuring the ES side of things21:24
lubot<teward001> and the Docker21:24
lubot<teward001> something's finnicky with LXD on the main infra box21:24
wxlsigh21:24
wxltl;dr won't make it for release, so that's going to be confusing and strange21:24
lynorianbut instead of just waiting for that to happen I created a new branch in the doc on tuesday that is over 40 commits ahead of current master for 19.04 including fixing all version numbers, new installer screenshots, 21:24
lynoriannew features in pcmanfm-qt and lximage-qt21:25
lubot<teward001> wxl: RTD is on my list for this weekend as a 'priority' item - this week's been a bit crazy.  and so was today, getting my comcast business line installed21:25
kc2bezlynorian: You are a documentation rockstar!21:26
wxlmaybe we could just publish to manual.lubuntu.me/branch and manually make links at manual.lubuntu.me??21:27
wxlwhy are there separate LXDE and 18.04 branches btw? is LXDE more general for <= 18.04?21:27
lubot<lynorian> no21:28
lynorianwxl I failed renaming the branch and both got on the server21:28
wxllynorian: which is the one that needs to be removed?21:29
lynorianLXDE21:29
wxlok i'll look further21:29
wxlin any case, the versions are on teward to figure out some sort of solution and it sounds like he's on it. glad you're still forging ahead as always, lynorian. i have used the manual many times this week alone and it always has what i'm looking for. and it looks great. excellent work.21:30
lynorianI am glad it helped21:30
wxlanything else lynorian ?21:30
lynorianI did some omre polishing on 18.10 before this but relized how close we were to release and needed something21:31
wxlgood thinking21:31
tewardwxl: RTD is the only headache left but it should be able to support multiple versions of multiple doumentations, once I get it 'set up' it'll just need lynorian to help test/deploy/build docs on there21:31
tewardand i'll squish any kinks that come up21:31
wxlyou should know, too, in case you didn't see it, usb-creator-kde is going to ship broken and has for some time21:32
lynorianunderstood21:32
wxlteward: thanks21:32
wxlalright well then i'll carry on if there's nothing else?21:32
lynorianI have nothing else21:33
wxlok21:34
wxli'm going to split up what i got into sections because it's a bit and i don't want to spew all over the channel21:34
wxlit's bad enough as it is XD21:34
wxlhere comes21:34
wxl * BUG TRIAGE 21:34
wxl   * Confirmed and triaged lxqt-session allocating memory unnecessarily. Pull request already upstream: bug 182341621:34
wxl   * Confirmed mtpaint ≥ bionic can't open images due to a broken desktop file. Offered little hope of a bugfix, but a workaround: bug 171426421:34
wxl   * Further cleaned up the 18.04 pcmanfm freeze bug 1782984 (likely a GTK2 bug, actually) as we had a dupe.21:34
wxl   * Related to the above, commented on the libreoffice bug with the same behavior, though there's another comment saying GTK3 also has the issue, oddly: bug 1810116121:34
wxl   * Linked the pcmanfm bug to the more general GTK2 bug: bug 180871021:34
wxl   * Confirmed Cala segfault when performing action with no selection. Already fixed upstream: bug 182356921:34
ubot93Bug 1823416 in lxqt-session (Ubuntu) "lxqt-session allocates memory for process output never read" [Undecided, Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/182341621:34
wxl   * qterminal emulation type default invalidated: bug 182368321:34
wxl   * Made a bug to promote dependency of apport on python3-launchpadlib: bug 182400221:34
ubot93Bug 1714264 in mtpaint (Ubuntu) "mtpaint's desktop file uses URL instead of file when opening" [Low, Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/171426421:34
wxl   * Confirmed usb-creator-kde is borked: bug 1629715 and https://phab.lubuntu.me/T5121:34
wxl   * Confirmed format flag does not remain apparent: bug 177361021:34
ubot93Bug 1782984 in pcmanfm (Ubuntu) "PCManFM freezes with Assertion `!xcb_xlib_threads_sequence_lost' failed when clicking on a file or folder in 18.04" [Critical, Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/178298421:34
wxl   * Confirmed Chromium can't be set as default browser when BROWSER variable is defined: bug 182391721:34
ubot93Bug 1808710 in gtk+2.0 (Ubuntu) "!xcb_xlib_threads_sequence_lost error with GTK2 applications" [Critical, Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/180871021:34
ubot93Bug 1823569 in calamares (Ubuntu) "Lubuntu 19.04 beta -  SegFault from manual partitioning when 'Create' or 'Edit' clicked on with no partition selected" [Medium, Fix Released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/182356921:34
ubot93Bug 1823683 in qterminal (Ubuntu) "qterminal emulation type should be 'default'" [Undecided, Invalid] https://launchpad.net/bugs/182368321:34
ubot93Bug 1824002 in apport (Ubuntu) "python3-launchpadlib needs promotion from suggests" [Medium, Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/182400221:35
ubot93Bug 1629715 in usb-creator (Ubuntu Disco) "usb-creator-kde shows the install popup after a few seconds of launching without any input" [High, Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/162971521:35
ubot93Bug 1773610 in calamares (Ubuntu) "'Format' partition edit option appears to keep reverting to 'Keep'" [Medium, Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/177361021:35
ubot93Bug 1823917 in chromium-browser (Ubuntu) "Can't set Chromium as the default browser when BROWSER variable is defined" [Medium, Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/182391721:35
wxli'll take a little break at the end of every section in case anyone has any comments or questions21:35
wxlhere comes another bit then21:36
wxl * TASKS21:36
wxl   * Gave my 2¢ on default touchpad settings: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T2621:36
wxl   * Worked with Raman on restoring mimeapps.list for https://phab.lubuntu.me/T321:36
wxl   * Recovered my comments on xscreensaver settings as Raman was hungry for more work https://phab.lubuntu.me/T2121:36
wxl   * Made a task to figure out why we have golang in our packageset: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T5021:36
lynorianI am confused by the golang thing as well nice work on those bugs21:36
wxldanke21:37
wxlok another bit21:37
wxl * COMMITS21:37
wxl   * Added python3-launchpadlib to seed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/D421:37
wxl   * Got fix for usb-creator-kde but needs help merging: https://git.launchpad.net/~wxl/usb-creator/commit/?id=426a247aa52449c66eb8c270aa5231e6f88326e821:37
wxland another21:38
wxl * REVIEWS21:38
wxl   * Accepted restoring button updates in Cala partition module: https://phab.lubuntu.me/D321:38
wxl   * Conditionally accepted removing libreoffice-kde5 from seed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/D221:38
wxland another, including a nice dig at simon21:38
wxl * INFRASTRUCTURE21:38
wxl   * Cleaned up the sidebar kind of like it used to be before the infra crash.21:38
wxl   * Restored the packaging tutorial and did some additional cleanup and additions.21:38
wxl   * Turned off bug reporting on lxfind and lxscreenshot projects so we no longer get bugs filed against them. People went to the Lubuntu project group and lxfind was the default which is why we got bugs against them. Now people can't file bugs from there. Added a link to the bug tracker for lubuntu-meta instead.21:38
wxl   * Added note to packaging guide on how to remove trailing whitespaces so now Simon can sleep at night21:38
wxland last but not least, the future21:39
wxl * TODO21:39
wxl   * Make a SRU for usb-creator-kde stretching back to xenial through disco: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T5121:39
wxl   * Get remotely accessible dev container set up21:39
wxl   * Make a bug report that you can't delete the BROWSER variable in lxqt-config-session & push upstream21:39
wxl   * Push upstream: 21:39
wxl     * format flag does not remain apparent: bug 177361021:39
wxl     * Chromium can't be set as default browser when BROWSER variable is defined: bug 182391721:39
ubot93Bug 1773610 in calamares (Ubuntu) "'Format' partition edit option appears to keep reverting to 'Keep'" [Medium, Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/177361021:39
ubot93Bug 1823917 in chromium-browser (Ubuntu) "Can't set Chromium as the default browser when BROWSER variable is defined" [Medium, Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/182391721:39
wxlEOF21:40
lubot<HMollerCl> O/21:40
lubot<HMollerCl> o/21:40
lubot<HMollerCl> who's next?21:40
wxlwell if @teward001 isn't ready you can go21:41
kc2bezThat is fantastic wxl !21:41
teward*spawns*21:41
* wxl tips hat to kc2bez21:41
tewardincoming minitall21:41
tewardminiwall*21:41
wxloh no21:41
tewardAll my stuff this week has been Lubuntu Infrastructure related, not development, but it's related.21:41
teward * Phab21:41
teward  - SMTP for outbound mail utilizing smtp.lubuntu.me dedicated email sending server systems21:41
teward  - Inbound mail 'prepped' but issues seem to still be happening with it handling inbound responses, diagnosing but also working on setting up the Phab SMTP to work perpetually; will need to coordinate with Canonical IS to set up the DNS properly once the system is confirmed 'working' better.21:41
teward * Email21:41
teward  - Simon says I broke email, I broke it only for him.  No issue on general lubuntu email.21:41
teward * General Phab container backups21:41
teward  - Automated backup process has been adjusted and is in testing via local servers on site here weekly to copy each container down at around 4AM on Sundays.21:41
teward * Infrastructure Deployment21:41
teward  - Read The Docs is on my list to deploy this weekend, but it's a little nontrivial to get fully working.  Tracking task is at https://phab.lubuntu.me/T37 but currently only visible to Lubuntu Council and me.21:41
teward</DONE>21:41
lubot<HMollerCl> @teward001 now my lubuntu.me email is working thanks!21:42
wxlbackups yay!21:42
kc2bez+121:42
tewardthey're still a tad flimsy...ish.21:42
wxlhow so?21:42
tewardi'm working on getting them better21:42
tewardwxl: have you ever worked with shared residential class internet trying to download several hundred gigs at the same time when everyone shares that connection?21:43
tewardi have21:43
tewardit's flimsy when everyone downloads everything or maintenance periods21:43
tewardi'm in the process of setting upt he download process for backups to go through the installed-today business connection which is a dedicated line21:43
tewardwhich'l be more stable21:43
wxloh wow fantastic21:43
wxli parsed a bunch of those cached documents and it was a pain in the brain, so i'll be super happy to nevre have to do that again21:44
lubot<HMollerCl> @wxl [<wxl> i parsed a bunch of those cached documents and it was a pain in the brain, …], you too?21:44
wxlXD21:44
tewardwxl: well everything being LXD containers now makes it easier21:44
wxlyep21:44
tewardeverything's selfcontained and isolated21:44
wxlhorray for lxd21:45
kc2bezScouring google cache wasn't a ton of fun either XD21:45
tewardand lxd can copy from server to server but becuase of the bleh of LXD on the infra currently, live-copying is bleh21:45
wxloh yeah i'm glad i didn't have that particular malady kc2bez XD21:45
tewardso there's about 10-20 minutes of outage during the copy stage21:45
lubot<HMollerCl> @kc2bez [<kc2bez> Scouring google cache wasn't a ton of fun either XD], I think it was more pain, couldn't autoamte it.21:45
teward(at most)21:45
wxlso we go down for maintenence during the backup?21:45
lubot<HMollerCl> does there is a landing page when going down?21:46
lubot<The_LoudSpeaker> @kc2bez [<kc2bez> lynorian: You are a documentation rockstar!], +121:46
tewardonly one service at a time, but yes.  and that's only until I figure out what the heck is going on with CRIU on the LXD on the server21:46
wxlthat's 11 UTC.. probably not the worst time, at least when it's not a weekend21:46
teward@HMollerCl there will be but backups are a manual process right now21:46
tewardwxl: well the schedule is able to be altered, I'd do it at 00 UTC but i'm lazy with the process at the moment21:47
tewardsince getting infra back up is the higher priority currently21:47
wxlgreat work, teward. a sysadmin is constantly complained at and rarely thanked, but you are most certainly appreciated. a lot.21:47
tewardunfortunately having to balance time with my other jobs though so21:48
tewardapologies for not being the most expedient with things :/21:48
wxlyou're doing great21:48
wxlwe're all volunteers21:48
wxlanything else?21:48
tewardnot from me21:49
wxl@HMollerCl you're up21:49
tewardi'll be sparse the rest of the day though21:50
lubot<HMollerCl> ok21:50
tewardfocusing on getting stuff set up right here :P21:50
wxlenjoy your new internet teward :)21:50
lubot<HMollerCl> I solve the software-properties-qt discover issue https://phab.lubuntu.me/T1521:50
tewardwxl: you know what's nice?  I still have the residential hookup too :P21:50
teward(DUAL CONNECTIONS!)21:50
wxloo21:50
lubot<HMollerCl> I hope tomorrow we will have our .desktop again, one with direct link to additional-drivers21:51
lubot<HMollerCl> lynorian, we might have to include that in the manual21:51
wxlyou already committed that fix?21:51
lubot<HMollerCl> @tsimonq2 merged it21:51
wxlcool21:51
lynorianwait that got removed and needed to be back I have that in 19.04 in the manual21:51
lynorianon the 19.04 branch not the 18.10 or master right now21:52
lubot<HMollerCl> it will be in 19.0421:52
lynoriangood21:52
lubot<HMollerCl> didn't knew you already had that in the manual, should have guess though21:53
lubot<HMollerCl> you are always one step ahead21:53
lubot<HMollerCl> I remove libreoffice-kde5 from seed https://phab.lubuntu.me/D2 and gave the context that wxl  asked for21:53
lubot<HMollerCl> that's in case we forgot why we have some gtk stuff and not kde or qt21:54
lubot<HMollerCl> I also chande te default settings for tap to click https://phab.lubuntu.me/D121:54
lubot<HMollerCl> however, I don't know if that's already uploadedor not. Once it is I want to test in a newer computer to see if the "synap" flag works tehre21:55
lubot<HMollerCl> regarding tap to click, I asked upstream to change teh funny name https://github.com/lxqt/lxqt-config/issues/405#issuecomment-48133971321:56
lynorianthanks for that @hmollerCL21:56
wxlafaik we don't seed synaptics and as i've said before it's deprecated by the author in lieu of libinput so i really think we might need to watch that one some more.. maybe even make a call for testing21:57
lubot<HMollerCl> somehow the discussion ended in a topic with the title "Pedantic changes to texts of touchpad tap settings". Not sure if pedantic means the same in english that in spanish but if it's teh same is hilarious.21:57
lubot<HMollerCl> @wxl [<wxl> afaik we don't seed synaptics and as i've said before it's deprecated by t …], agree21:57
wxl@HMollerCl it's a classic case of the pot calling the kettle black. :/21:58
lubot<HMollerCl> I was playing with nm-tray icons (dark icons on dark panel) https://phab.lubuntu.me/T4821:58
lubot<HMollerCl> I discover that there is a lubuntu-brasil telegram group (ask the to unite forces with the portugues group)21:59
lubot<HMollerCl> And I'm trying to find some solutions for printer that are qt and consumes les resources21:59
lubot<HMollerCl> EOF.22:00
wxlnice22:01
wxlgreat work22:01
wxlyou tackled some really hard issues and it looks like you're working on doing some more of the same. amazing. so glad to have you.22:01
wxlok @The_LoudSpeaker being the new official packager he should give us a run down of what he's been working on and going to work on22:02
kc2bezBefore he starts22:05
kc2bezI just checked bug 1823569 and it seems to be resolved. \o/ 22:05
ubot93Bug 1823569 in calamares (Ubuntu) "Lubuntu 19.04 beta -  SegFault from manual partitioning when 'Create' or 'Edit' clicked on with no partition selected" [Medium, Fix Released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/182356922:05
wxlyay!22:06
lubot<The_LoudSpeaker> Okay. So here it goes: … Packaged my first package.  … Completed the mimeapps.list which caused files to open in random apps like pdfs, icons, images, etc all in firefox and  … Also learnt that changelog is important. … Going to work on the xscreensaver themes next. Thanks to wxl, we already have some of them short listed. … L22:08
lubotastly thanks to you guys for allowing me work with you and putting up with my spam and noob queries.22:08
wxlyou did amazing work. i appreciate the fact you worked through the pain of that first package. should be easy from here on out. 22:09
kc2bezIt does get easier.22:10
wxlglad to have you on our team, raman.22:10
wxlbtw you should go test and make sure that worked :)22:10
lubot<HMollerCl> thanks @The_LoudSpeaker22:12
wxlok that leaves @tsimonq222:12
wxl@tsimonq2 @tsimonq2 @tsimonq2 @tsimonq2 @tsimonq2 @tsimonq2 @tsimonq2 @tsimonq2 @tsimonq2 22:12
lubot<The_LoudSpeaker> @wxl [<wxl> btw you should go test and make sure that worked :)], Already under testing since the day I completed the file. I have only one machine to test on. I directly replaced the file instead of waiting for the update.22:13
kc2bezVirtual machines are your friend.22:14
wxl@The_LoudSpeaker it's always good to test the final release, just to be sure there aren't any mistakes in placement or something. and yes, virtual machines are what you need.22:14
lubot<The_LoudSpeaker> Sure. Tomorrow after the presentation.22:15
lubot<The_LoudSpeaker> @wxl [<wxl> @The_LoudSpeaker it's always good to test the final release, just to be su …], Yup! Aye captain!22:15
wxlremember we're right on the verge of release22:15
kc2bezI'm going to sign off for a few and make my way home.22:17
lubot<The_LoudSpeaker> You guys mentioned freeze something yesterday. Said it was starting today. What is that?22:17
wxlyeah i think @tsimonq2 has abandoned us (this seems to be a trend for meetings, or am i the only one that noticed that?)22:18
lubot<teward001> @The_LoudSpeaker you mean Final Freeze?22:18
lubot<The_LoudSpeaker> @teward001 [@The_LoudSpeaker you mean Final Freeze?], Yeah!22:18
lubot<teward001> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FinalFreeze22:18
wxlthere's a bunch of freezes, @The_LoudSpeaker .. they impose certain limitations on changes 22:18
lubot<The_LoudSpeaker> Okay. Going through the above link now. Will ask if in doubt.22:19
lubot<kc2bez> @wxl [<wxl> yeah i think @tsimonq2 has abandoned us (this seems to be a trend for meet …], If we need to adjust the time it is ok with me.22:19
guivercif I can do anything, please ask (offer made without any guarantees)22:22

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