[00:19] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [T21: Our xscreensaver theme is too old] wxl (Walter Lapchynski) commented on the task: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T21#594
[00:22] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [T49: 19.04 Release Notes] tsimonq2 (Simon Quigley) just created this task: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T49
 The release is in one week, folks. We've now entered final freeze. We need some brave souls to go through everything we've done in the past 6 months to prepare a release announcement. … More details can be found here: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T49
[00:22] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [Unbreak Now!, Open] 19.04 Release Notes: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T49
 @tsimonq2 [The release is in one week, folks. We've now entered final freeze. We need some …], Freeze is tomorow
[00:26] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rMANUAL4486495aafa9: Start annotations sections of lximage] lynorian (Lyn Perrine) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rMANUAL4486495aafa9
 @acheronuk [Freeze is tomorow], Close enough :P
 close enough to get a software-properties upload done
 @acheronuk [close enough to get a software-properties upload done], You mean the one that's been waiting in the queue for several hours now?
[00:28] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [T21: Our xscreensaver theme is too old] wxl (Walter Lapchynski) commented on the task: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T21#603
 @tsimonq2 [You mean the one that's been waiting in the queue for several hours now?], Thanks. Not been watching the queue message tonight
[00:28] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [T21: Our xscreensaver theme is too old] tsimonq2 (Simon Quigley) commented on the task: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T21#604
 @acheronuk [Thanks. Not been watching the queue message tonight], np :)
[00:30] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [T21: Our xscreensaver theme is too old] kc2bez (Dan Simmons) commented on the task: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T21#606
[00:31] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rMANUAL2000cf0d1d5a: Finish annotation buttons for lximage] lynorian (Lyn Perrine) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rMANUAL2000cf0d1d5a
[00:32] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [T21: Our xscreensaver theme is too old] tsimonq2 (Simon Quigley) commented on the task: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T21#607
 @lugito [<lugito>  3[  13T21: Our xscreensaver theme is too old  3]   15tsimonq2 (Simon Q …], Will look it up tomorrow. Gonna have a walk now.
 Sounds good!
[00:35] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [T21: Our xscreensaver theme is too old] wxl (Walter Lapchynski) commented on the task: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T21#608
[00:35] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rCALAPACKAGING3758f97ccd03: Restore button updates in partition page.] tsimonq2 (Simon Quigley) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rCALAPACKAGING3758f97ccd03
[00:37] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [T21: Our xscreensaver theme is too old] wxl (Walter Lapchynski) commented on the task: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T21#612
[00:37] -queuebot:#lubuntu-devel- Unapproved: calamares (disco-proposed/universe) [3.2.4-0ubuntu1 => 3.2.4-0ubuntu2] (lubuntu)
[00:37] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [T21: Our xscreensaver theme is too old] wxl (Walter Lapchynski) commented on the task: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T21#613
[00:38] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rCALASETTINGS053817ff0e59: Lower the minimum RAM requirements.] tsimonq2 (Simon Quigley) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rCALASETTINGS053817ff0e59
[00:40] <wxl> oooh kc2bez i didn't know you could set "Maniphest Tasks" in the Differential description to get tasks to autoclose upon commit.
[00:40] -queuebot:#lubuntu-devel- Unapproved: calamares-settings-ubuntu (disco-proposed/universe) [1:19.04.3 => 1:19.04.4] (lubuntu)
[00:41] <kc2bez> I saw that, pretty cool but we can't forget to test it too.
[00:42] <wxl> true
[00:42] <wxl> ok headed home
[00:42] <kc2bez> ttyl wxl
[00:51] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rMANUAL4bd239943455: Add new screenshot for lximage] lynorian (Lyn Perrine) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rMANUAL4bd239943455
 @wxl [<wxl> ok headed home], Bye!
[01:22] <guiverc_d> 19.04 daily:  'safe graphics' implies to me it should boot on all, i can't get it to test-boot on nvidia quadro 600 (but normal is great)
 wxl: added context on why leave only libreoffice-gtk3 https://phab.lubuntu.me/D2
[01:50] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [Needs Review] Remove libreoffice-kde5 because his file picker doesn't add file extension: https://phab.lubuntu.me/D2
[02:49] <wxl> @tsimonq2 shall i upload https://phab.lubuntu.me/D2
[02:49] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [Accepted] Remove libreoffice-kde5 because his file picker doesn't add file extension: https://phab.lubuntu.me/D2
[02:49] <wxl> ?
 @wxl [<wxl> @tsimonq2 shall i upload https://phab.lubuntu.me/D2], It's the seed; go ahead
[02:50] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- Error: D2], is an invalid task reference.
[02:52] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rSEED2263c1379c80: Remove libreoffice-kde5 because his file picker doesn't add file extension] wxl (Walter Lapchynski) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rSEED2263c1379c80
[03:06] <wxl> @tsimonq2: we don't have usb-creator in our repos?
 I dunno
[03:06] <wxl> i mean we don't
[03:06] <wxl> why not?
 I don't knoe
[03:08] <wxl> you're useless XD
[03:08] <wxl> it's non-functional
[03:08] <wxl> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/usb-creator/+bug/1629715
 @wxl [<wxl> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/usb-creator/+bug/1629715], OH
 Cooool
 Release blocker or nah?
[03:13] <wxl> i think we should fix it
 I mean...
[03:13] <wxl> it's pretty crappy to have an app that doesn't work AT ALL
 For 19.04?
[03:13] <wxl> we got a patch. i bet we can just bang it out
 ok bet XD
[03:14] <wxl> worth a shot
 Why don't you have upload access to it???
 http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/packagesets/disco/lubuntu
 I was just gonna pawn it off on you XD
[03:15] <wxl> WHY DO WE HVE GOLANG OMG
[03:15] <wxl> anyways XD
[03:16] <wxl> yeah that kind of sucks
[03:16] <wxl> i can do the work but it'll be up to you to upload
 Mmkay
 Sounds good
[03:16] <wxl> seriously DO you know why we have golang?
 Nooope
[03:17] <wxl> i'm going to make a task for that
 cyphermox: ^
 It's technically a DMB thing
 cyphermox usually does it though
[03:18] <wxl> if we can avoid it i think that would be good because the less we have to be responsible for the better
 ok
[03:49] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [T50: figure out why we have golang in our packageset] wxl (Walter Lapchynski) just created this task: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T50
[04:21] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [T51: fix usb-creator-kde] wxl (Walter Lapchynski) just created this task: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T51
[04:31] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rMANUALf5c94975cf39: Add save with same file name] lynorian (Lyn Perrine) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rMANUALf5c94975cf39
[05:33] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [T51: fix usb-creator-kde] wxl (Walter Lapchynski) commented on the task: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T51#630
[05:39] <guiverc_d> fyi:  4 of my 19.04 bugs I've just confirmed also occur on opensuse tumbleweed; ie. upstream (i'd previously confirmed a different one also occurred in debian-testing before now)
[05:41] <wxl> GOOD WORK guiverc_d 
[05:41] <wxl> that's the sort of extra legwork we really need
[05:43] <guiverc_d> i stuffed my 'leap' on hp8200; so used that to switch to tumbleweed; 'newer' so was more b/c of leap dying..
[05:45] <guiverc_d> (no i haven't yet reported them on bugzilla.opensuse.org; but intend to)
[05:46] <wxl> that would be super awesome
[05:50] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rMANUALf24cf7e16222: Add how to actually show thumbnails] lynorian (Lyn Perrine) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rMANUALf24cf7e16222
[05:57] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rMANUAL700bba527919: Fix Capitization] lynorian (Lyn Perrine) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rMANUAL700bba527919
[06:13] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rMANUAL2852795c3b3e: Add show EXIF data] lynorian (Lyn Perrine) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rMANUAL2852795c3b3e
[06:28] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [T51: fix usb-creator-kde] wxl (Walter Lapchynski) commented on the task: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T51#632
[06:51] <guiverc_d> is there a task on [testing] upgrading 18.10 to 19.04 somewhere?
[10:37] -queuebot:#lubuntu-devel- Unapproved: accepted lubuntu-default-settings [source] (disco-proposed) [19.04.2]
[13:10] <cyphermox> wxl: tsimonq2: I think it's because you wanted ubuntu-report
[13:11] <cyphermox> it also looks like an error in the packageset generation
[14:19] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [T48: nm-tray icons] hmollercl (Hans P. Möller) commented on the task: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T48#633
[14:40] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [T51: fix usb-creator-kde] tsimonq2 (Simon Quigley) commented on the task: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T51#634
[14:41] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [T3: Provide complete mimeapps.list] tsimonq2 (Simon Quigley) commented on the task: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T3#635
[14:42] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [T44: add python3-launchpadlib to live seed] tsimonq2 (Simon Quigley) commented on the task: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T44#636
[14:42] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [T15: Fix software-properties-qt under other DEs] tsimonq2 (Simon Quigley) commented on the task: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T15#637
[14:43] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [T4: Make it lighter] hmollercl (Hans P. Möller) commented on the task: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T4#639
[14:48] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [T36: Fix full disk encryption on BIOS systems] tsimonq2 (Simon Quigley) commented on the task: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T36#640
[14:51] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [T48: nm-tray icons] tsimonq2 (Simon Quigley) commented on the task: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T48#641
[14:52] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [T15: Fix software-properties-qt under other DEs] rikmills (Rik Mills) commented on the task: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T15#642
[14:54] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [T15: Fix software-properties-qt under other DEs] tsimonq2 (Simon Quigley) commented on the task: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T15#643
[14:56] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [T4: Make it lighter] tsimonq2 (Simon Quigley) commented on the task: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T4#645
[15:02] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [T50: figure out why we have golang in our packageset] tsimonq2 (Simon Quigley) commented on the task: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T50#646
 @acheronuk could you tell us if solution for software-properties fixed the problem with discover?
 also, what does kubuntu use for printer management?
 isntead of system-config-printer
[15:35] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [T15: Fix software-properties-qt under other DEs] hmollercl (Hans P. Möller) commented on the task: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T15#647
[15:50] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [T15: Fix software-properties-qt under other DEs] rikmills (Rik Mills) commented on the task: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T15#648
[15:53] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [T15: Fix software-properties-qt under other DEs] hmollercl (Hans P. Möller) commented on the task: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T15#649
[15:55] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [T15: Fix software-properties-qt under other DEs] rikmills (Rik Mills) commented on the task: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T15#650
 important packaging lesson!
[16:11] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [T15: Fix software-properties-qt under other DEs] wxl (Walter Lapchynski) commented on the task: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T15#652
[16:12] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [T51: fix usb-creator-kde] wxl (Walter Lapchynski) commented on the task: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T51#653
[16:16] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [T51: fix usb-creator-kde] tsimonq2 (Simon Quigley) commented on the task: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T51#654
[16:17] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [T51: fix usb-creator-kde] wxl (Walter Lapchynski) commented on the task: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T51#655
[16:19] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [T51: fix usb-creator-kde] tsimonq2 (Simon Quigley) commented on the task: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T51#656
[16:20] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [T51: fix usb-creator-kde] wxl (Walter Lapchynski) commented on the task: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T51#657
[16:23] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [T51: fix usb-creator-kde] tsimonq2 (Simon Quigley) commented on the task: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T51#658
[16:28] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [T15: Fix software-properties-qt under other DEs] rikmills (Rik Mills) commented on the task: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T15#659
[17:42] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rCALAPACKAGINGc2295028e2f2: Cherry-pick several beneficial upstream patches.] tsimonq2 (Simon Quigley) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rCALAPACKAGINGc2295028e2f2
[17:42] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rCALAPACKAGINGe82a7250fa61: Upload to Disco.] tsimonq2 (Simon Quigley) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rCALAPACKAGINGe82a7250fa61
[17:43] -queuebot:#lubuntu-devel- Unapproved: calamares (disco-proposed/universe) [3.2.4-0ubuntu2 => 3.2.4-0ubuntu3] (lubuntu)
 @HMollerCl software-properties uploaded
 @tsimonq2 [@HMollerCl software-properties uploaded], the .install ?
 Yes
 thanks! that's why when I was proposing merge it gave 0 diff.
 @acheronuk [important packaging lesson!], yup, still studing https://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/maint-guide/index.en.html
[18:10] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [T15: Fix software-properties-qt under other DEs] rikmills (Rik Mills) commented on the task: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T15#660
[18:12] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [T15: Fix software-properties-qt under other DEs] hmollercl (Hans P. Möller) commented on the task: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T15#661
 building things in sbuild/pbuilder or a ppa, and checking that your changes really do what you hoped, is also a good idea
 @acheronuk [building things in sbuild/pbuilder or a ppa, and checking that your changes real …], I will pin this message to look at it.
 @HMollerCl [I will pin this message to look at it.], i mean save
[19:37] <wxl> @tsimonq2: i saw you assign and set up the usb-creator-kde bug but i never heard back from release team
 @wxl [<wxl> @tsimonq2: i saw you assign and set up the usb-creator-kde bug but i never …], Poke again XD
 Adam *and* Steve?
[19:55] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rMANUALd29f41de83c8: Add keyboard shortcuts for rotating] lynorian (Lyn Perrine) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rMANUALd29f41de83c8
[19:55] <wxl> waiting for response still
 Poke harder? :)
[19:57] <wxl> :/
 I saw that @tsimonq2
[19:58] <tsimonq2> !patience
[19:58] <tsimonq2> XD
[20:02] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rMANUALc425bb8e7287: Add keyboard shortcuts for flipping] lynorian (Lyn Perrine) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rMANUALc425bb8e7287
[20:04] <wxl> tsimonq2: there you go.. looks like the all-in-one SRU is the way to go but they probably won't support a 0 day
[20:07] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rMANUAL4ac7ee1fdc18: Add keyboard shortcut to exit lximage] lynorian (Lyn Perrine) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rMANUAL4ac7ee1fdc18
[20:11] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rMANUAL2a06c12268dc: make 19.04 19.04] lynorian (Lyn Perrine) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rMANUAL2a06c12268dc
[20:12] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [T51: fix usb-creator-kde] wxl (Walter Lapchynski) commented on the task: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T51#662
[20:21] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rMANUAL0090c80f0aa9: Fix warning] lynorian (Lyn Perrine) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rMANUAL0090c80f0aa9
[20:31] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rMANUALb768e6237062: Add description os sidebar choices better] lynorian (Lyn Perrine) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rMANUALb768e6237062
[20:51] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rMANUAL26c91be72d3b: Add split view to pcmanfm-qt] lynorian (Lyn Perrine) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rMANUAL26c91be72d3b
[21:12] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rMANUAL6ef953ede22f: Add show hide fileterbar and new screenshot] lynorian (Lyn Perrine) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rMANUAL6ef953ede22f
[21:12] <lynorian> meeting time?
[21:12] <wxl> oh yeah
[21:12] <wxl> forgot all about that
[21:13] <wxl> i got a huge list. i should almost pastebin the thing X'D
[21:13] <wxl> @tsimonq2: meeting meeting meeting
 ANTI-MEETING :P
[21:15] <wxl> oh stop
 :P
[21:15] <wxl> let's just do this thing
[21:15] <wxl> who's here?
[21:15] <kc2bez> o/
 apparently not SImon :)
[21:15] <lynorian> \o
[21:17] <wxl> ok so we got this:
[21:17] <wxl> argh
[21:17] <wxl> shuf: invalid input range: ‘teward’
[21:17] <wxl> really
 well i am an invalid range :)
[21:18] <wxl> teward
[21:18] <wxl> kc2bez
[21:18] <wxl> lynorian
[21:18] <wxl> wxl
[21:18] <wxl> there
[21:18] <wxl> go
 I also forget what I had mentioned last time :D
[21:18]  * wxl facepalms
 someone else go i'm still compiling my list from this week
[21:18] <wxl> kc2bez is up
[21:19] <kc2bez> Submitted patch for https://phab.lubuntu.me/T40 bug 1823569
[21:19] <kc2bez> Tested https://phab.lubuntu.me/T2 when it was in proposed.
[21:19] <kc2bez> Hope to knock out some more testing of things tonight.
[21:19] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [Unbreak Now!, Resolved] Cala segfault when performing action with no selection: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T40
[21:19] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [High, Resolved] Fix EFI encryption: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T2
[21:19] <kc2bez> Eyes and ears open here following along, helping where I can.
[21:20] <wxl> did that segfault fix get tested?
[21:20] <lynorian> how does one test that?
[21:20] <kc2bez> I tested before I submitted the patch.
[21:21] <kc2bez> But not again today.
[21:21] <wxl> probably good then, but the steps to reproduce the error are in the bug lynorian 
[21:21] <wxl> might want to just double check
[21:21] <kc2bez> Hope to get it done tonight.
[21:21] <wxl> nice job, kc2bez. those were two thorny ones. you did well.
[21:21] <wxl> anything else?
[21:22] <kc2bez> Thanks, that is it from me.
[21:22] <wxl> lynorian you're up
[21:23] <lynorian> ok I need multiple versions of the manual still tried looking into the sphinx extension that failed
[21:23] <wxl> ^^^ TEWARD!!!!!!
[21:23] <lynorian> so I had hoped teward would get read the docs set up
 Lubuntu Council will see this tracker item for that: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T37
 (Infrastructure tasks are not currently public)
 still figuring the ES side of things
 and the Docker
 something's finnicky with LXD on the main infra box
[21:24] <wxl> sigh
[21:24] <wxl> tl;dr won't make it for release, so that's going to be confusing and strange
[21:24] <lynorian> but instead of just waiting for that to happen I created a new branch in the doc on tuesday that is over 40 commits ahead of current master for 19.04 including fixing all version numbers, new installer screenshots, 
[21:25] <lynorian> new features in pcmanfm-qt and lximage-qt
 wxl: RTD is on my list for this weekend as a 'priority' item - this week's been a bit crazy.  and so was today, getting my comcast business line installed
[21:26] <kc2bez> lynorian: You are a documentation rockstar!
[21:27] <wxl> maybe we could just publish to manual.lubuntu.me/branch and manually make links at manual.lubuntu.me??
[21:27] <wxl> why are there separate LXDE and 18.04 branches btw? is LXDE more general for <= 18.04?
 no
[21:28] <lynorian> wxl I failed renaming the branch and both got on the server
[21:29] <wxl> lynorian: which is the one that needs to be removed?
[21:29] <lynorian> LXDE
[21:29] <wxl> ok i'll look further
[21:30] <wxl> in any case, the versions are on teward to figure out some sort of solution and it sounds like he's on it. glad you're still forging ahead as always, lynorian. i have used the manual many times this week alone and it always has what i'm looking for. and it looks great. excellent work.
[21:30] <lynorian> I am glad it helped
[21:30] <wxl> anything else lynorian ?
[21:31] <lynorian> I did some omre polishing on 18.10 before this but relized how close we were to release and needed something
[21:31] <wxl> good thinking
[21:31] <teward> wxl: RTD is the only headache left but it should be able to support multiple versions of multiple doumentations, once I get it 'set up' it'll just need lynorian to help test/deploy/build docs on there
[21:31] <teward> and i'll squish any kinks that come up
[21:32] <wxl> you should know, too, in case you didn't see it, usb-creator-kde is going to ship broken and has for some time
[21:32] <lynorian> understood
[21:32] <wxl> teward: thanks
[21:32] <wxl> alright well then i'll carry on if there's nothing else?
[21:33] <lynorian> I have nothing else
[21:34] <wxl> ok
[21:34] <wxl> i'm going to split up what i got into sections because it's a bit and i don't want to spew all over the channel
[21:34] <wxl> it's bad enough as it is XD
[21:34] <wxl> here comes
[21:34] <wxl>  * BUG TRIAGE 
[21:34] <wxl>    * Confirmed and triaged lxqt-session allocating memory unnecessarily. Pull request already upstream: bug 1823416
[21:34] <wxl>    * Confirmed mtpaint ≥ bionic can't open images due to a broken desktop file. Offered little hope of a bugfix, but a workaround: bug 1714264
[21:34] <wxl>    * Further cleaned up the 18.04 pcmanfm freeze bug 1782984 (likely a GTK2 bug, actually) as we had a dupe.
[21:34] <wxl>    * Related to the above, commented on the libreoffice bug with the same behavior, though there's another comment saying GTK3 also has the issue, oddly: bug 18101161
[21:34] <wxl>    * Linked the pcmanfm bug to the more general GTK2 bug: bug 1808710
[21:34] <wxl>    * Confirmed Cala segfault when performing action with no selection. Already fixed upstream: bug 1823569
[21:34] <wxl>    * qterminal emulation type default invalidated: bug 1823683
[21:34] <wxl>    * Made a bug to promote dependency of apport on python3-launchpadlib: bug 1824002
[21:34] <wxl>    * Confirmed usb-creator-kde is borked: bug 1629715 and https://phab.lubuntu.me/T51
[21:34] <wxl>    * Confirmed format flag does not remain apparent: bug 1773610
[21:34] <wxl>    * Confirmed Chromium can't be set as default browser when BROWSER variable is defined: bug 1823917
[21:35] <wxl> i'll take a little break at the end of every section in case anyone has any comments or questions
[21:36] <wxl> here comes another bit then
[21:36] <wxl>  * TASKS
[21:36] <wxl>    * Gave my 2¢ on default touchpad settings: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T26
[21:36] <wxl>    * Worked with Raman on restoring mimeapps.list for https://phab.lubuntu.me/T3
[21:36] <wxl>    * Recovered my comments on xscreensaver settings as Raman was hungry for more work https://phab.lubuntu.me/T21
[21:36] <wxl>    * Made a task to figure out why we have golang in our packageset: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T50
[21:36] <lynorian> I am confused by the golang thing as well nice work on those bugs
[21:37] <wxl> danke
[21:37] <wxl> ok another bit
[21:37] <wxl>  * COMMITS
[21:37] <wxl>    * Added python3-launchpadlib to seed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/D4
[21:37] <wxl>    * Got fix for usb-creator-kde but needs help merging: https://git.launchpad.net/~wxl/usb-creator/commit/?id=426a247aa52449c66eb8c270aa5231e6f88326e8
[21:38] <wxl> and another
[21:38] <wxl>  * REVIEWS
[21:38] <wxl>    * Accepted restoring button updates in Cala partition module: https://phab.lubuntu.me/D3
[21:38] <wxl>    * Conditionally accepted removing libreoffice-kde5 from seed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/D2
[21:38] <wxl> and another, including a nice dig at simon
[21:38] <wxl>  * INFRASTRUCTURE
[21:38] <wxl>    * Cleaned up the sidebar kind of like it used to be before the infra crash.
[21:38] <wxl>    * Restored the packaging tutorial and did some additional cleanup and additions.
[21:38] <wxl>    * Turned off bug reporting on lxfind and lxscreenshot projects so we no longer get bugs filed against them. People went to the Lubuntu project group and lxfind was the default which is why we got bugs against them. Now people can't file bugs from there. Added a link to the bug tracker for lubuntu-meta instead.
[21:38] <wxl>    * Added note to packaging guide on how to remove trailing whitespaces so now Simon can sleep at night
[21:39] <wxl> and last but not least, the future
[21:39] <wxl>  * TODO
[21:39] <wxl>    * Make a SRU for usb-creator-kde stretching back to xenial through disco: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T51
[21:39] <wxl>    * Get remotely accessible dev container set up
[21:39] <wxl>    * Make a bug report that you can't delete the BROWSER variable in lxqt-config-session & push upstream
[21:39] <wxl>    * Push upstream: 
[21:39] <wxl>      * format flag does not remain apparent: bug 1773610
[21:39] <wxl>      * Chromium can't be set as default browser when BROWSER variable is defined: bug 1823917
[21:40] <wxl> EOF
 O/
 o/
 who's next?
[21:41] <wxl> well if @teward001 isn't ready you can go
[21:41] <kc2bez> That is fantastic wxl !
[21:41] <teward> *spawns*
[21:41]  * wxl tips hat to kc2bez
[21:41] <teward> incoming minitall
[21:41] <teward> miniwall*
[21:41] <wxl> oh no
[21:41] <teward> All my stuff this week has been Lubuntu Infrastructure related, not development, but it's related.
[21:41] <teward>  * Phab
[21:41] <teward>   - SMTP for outbound mail utilizing smtp.lubuntu.me dedicated email sending server systems
[21:41] <teward>   - Inbound mail 'prepped' but issues seem to still be happening with it handling inbound responses, diagnosing but also working on setting up the Phab SMTP to work perpetually; will need to coordinate with Canonical IS to set up the DNS properly once the system is confirmed 'working' better.
[21:41] <teward>  * Email
[21:41] <teward>   - Simon says I broke email, I broke it only for him.  No issue on general lubuntu email.
[21:41] <teward>  * General Phab container backups
[21:41] <teward>   - Automated backup process has been adjusted and is in testing via local servers on site here weekly to copy each container down at around 4AM on Sundays.
[21:41] <teward>  * Infrastructure Deployment
[21:41] <teward>   - Read The Docs is on my list to deploy this weekend, but it's a little nontrivial to get fully working.  Tracking task is at https://phab.lubuntu.me/T37 but currently only visible to Lubuntu Council and me.

 @teward001 now my lubuntu.me email is working thanks!
[21:42] <wxl> backups yay!
[21:42] <kc2bez> +1
[21:42] <teward> they're still a tad flimsy...ish.
[21:42] <wxl> how so?
[21:42] <teward> i'm working on getting them better
[21:43] <teward> wxl: have you ever worked with shared residential class internet trying to download several hundred gigs at the same time when everyone shares that connection?
[21:43] <teward> i have
[21:43] <teward> it's flimsy when everyone downloads everything or maintenance periods
[21:43] <teward> i'm in the process of setting upt he download process for backups to go through the installed-today business connection which is a dedicated line
[21:43] <teward> which'l be more stable
[21:43] <wxl> oh wow fantastic
[21:44] <wxl> i parsed a bunch of those cached documents and it was a pain in the brain, so i'll be super happy to nevre have to do that again
 @wxl [<wxl> i parsed a bunch of those cached documents and it was a pain in the brain, …], you too?
[21:44] <wxl> XD
[21:44] <teward> wxl: well everything being LXD containers now makes it easier
[21:44] <wxl> yep
[21:44] <teward> everything's selfcontained and isolated
[21:45] <wxl> horray for lxd
[21:45] <kc2bez> Scouring google cache wasn't a ton of fun either XD
[21:45] <teward> and lxd can copy from server to server but becuase of the bleh of LXD on the infra currently, live-copying is bleh
[21:45] <wxl> oh yeah i'm glad i didn't have that particular malady kc2bez XD
[21:45] <teward> so there's about 10-20 minutes of outage during the copy stage
 @kc2bez [<kc2bez> Scouring google cache wasn't a ton of fun either XD], I think it was more pain, couldn't autoamte it.
[21:45] <teward> (at most)
[21:45] <wxl> so we go down for maintenence during the backup?
 does there is a landing page when going down?
 @kc2bez [<kc2bez> lynorian: You are a documentation rockstar!], +1
[21:46] <teward> only one service at a time, but yes.  and that's only until I figure out what the heck is going on with CRIU on the LXD on the server
[21:46] <wxl> that's 11 UTC.. probably not the worst time, at least when it's not a weekend
[21:46] <teward> @HMollerCl there will be but backups are a manual process right now
[21:47] <teward> wxl: well the schedule is able to be altered, I'd do it at 00 UTC but i'm lazy with the process at the moment
[21:47] <teward> since getting infra back up is the higher priority currently
[21:47] <wxl> great work, teward. a sysadmin is constantly complained at and rarely thanked, but you are most certainly appreciated. a lot.
[21:48] <teward> unfortunately having to balance time with my other jobs though so
[21:48] <teward> apologies for not being the most expedient with things :/
[21:48] <wxl> you're doing great
[21:48] <wxl> we're all volunteers
[21:48] <wxl> anything else?
[21:49] <teward> not from me
[21:49] <wxl> @HMollerCl you're up
[21:50] <teward> i'll be sparse the rest of the day though
 ok
[21:50] <teward> focusing on getting stuff set up right here :P
[21:50] <wxl> enjoy your new internet teward :)
 I solve the software-properties-qt discover issue https://phab.lubuntu.me/T15
[21:50] <teward> wxl: you know what's nice?  I still have the residential hookup too :P
[21:50] <teward> (DUAL CONNECTIONS!)
[21:50] <wxl> oo
 I hope tomorrow we will have our .desktop again, one with direct link to additional-drivers
 lynorian, we might have to include that in the manual
[21:51] <wxl> you already committed that fix?
 @tsimonq2 merged it
[21:51] <wxl> cool
[21:51] <lynorian> wait that got removed and needed to be back I have that in 19.04 in the manual
[21:52] <lynorian> on the 19.04 branch not the 18.10 or master right now
 it will be in 19.04
[21:52] <lynorian> good
 didn't knew you already had that in the manual, should have guess though
 you are always one step ahead
 I remove libreoffice-kde5 from seed https://phab.lubuntu.me/D2 and gave the context that wxl  asked for
 that's in case we forgot why we have some gtk stuff and not kde or qt
 I also chande te default settings for tap to click https://phab.lubuntu.me/D1
 however, I don't know if that's already uploadedor not. Once it is I want to test in a newer computer to see if the "synap" flag works tehre
 regarding tap to click, I asked upstream to change teh funny name https://github.com/lxqt/lxqt-config/issues/405#issuecomment-481339713
[21:56] <lynorian> thanks for that @hmollerCL
[21:57] <wxl> afaik we don't seed synaptics and as i've said before it's deprecated by the author in lieu of libinput so i really think we might need to watch that one some more.. maybe even make a call for testing
 somehow the discussion ended in a topic with the title "Pedantic changes to texts of touchpad tap settings". Not sure if pedantic means the same in english that in spanish but if it's teh same is hilarious.
 @wxl [<wxl> afaik we don't seed synaptics and as i've said before it's deprecated by t …], agree
[21:58] <wxl> @HMollerCl it's a classic case of the pot calling the kettle black. :/
 I was playing with nm-tray icons (dark icons on dark panel) https://phab.lubuntu.me/T48
 I discover that there is a lubuntu-brasil telegram group (ask the to unite forces with the portugues group)
 And I'm trying to find some solutions for printer that are qt and consumes les resources
 EOF.
[22:01] <wxl> nice
[22:01] <wxl> great work
[22:01] <wxl> you tackled some really hard issues and it looks like you're working on doing some more of the same. amazing. so glad to have you.
[22:02] <wxl> ok @The_LoudSpeaker being the new official packager he should give us a run down of what he's been working on and going to work on
[22:05] <kc2bez> Before he starts
[22:05] <kc2bez> I just checked bug 1823569 and it seems to be resolved. \o/ 
[22:06] <wxl> yay!
 Okay. So here it goes: … Packaged my first package.  … Completed the mimeapps.list which caused files to open in random apps like pdfs, icons, images, etc all in firefox and  … Also learnt that changelog is important. … Going to work on the xscreensaver themes next. Thanks to wxl, we already have some of them short listed. … L
[22:09] <wxl> you did amazing work. i appreciate the fact you worked through the pain of that first package. should be easy from here on out. 
[22:10] <kc2bez> It does get easier.
[22:10] <wxl> glad to have you on our team, raman.
[22:10] <wxl> btw you should go test and make sure that worked :)
 thanks @The_LoudSpeaker
[22:12] <wxl> ok that leaves @tsimonq2
[22:12] <wxl> @tsimonq2 @tsimonq2 @tsimonq2 @tsimonq2 @tsimonq2 @tsimonq2 @tsimonq2 @tsimonq2 @tsimonq2 
 @wxl [<wxl> btw you should go test and make sure that worked :)], Already under testing since the day I completed the file. I have only one machine to test on. I directly replaced the file instead of waiting for the update.
[22:14] <kc2bez> Virtual machines are your friend.
[22:14] <wxl> @The_LoudSpeaker it's always good to test the final release, just to be sure there aren't any mistakes in placement or something. and yes, virtual machines are what you need.
 Sure. Tomorrow after the presentation.
 @wxl [<wxl> @The_LoudSpeaker it's always good to test the final release, just to be su …], Yup! Aye captain!
[22:15] <wxl> remember we're right on the verge of release
[22:17] <kc2bez> I'm going to sign off for a few and make my way home.
 You guys mentioned freeze something yesterday. Said it was starting today. What is that?
[22:18] <wxl> yeah i think @tsimonq2 has abandoned us (this seems to be a trend for meetings, or am i the only one that noticed that?)
 @The_LoudSpeaker you mean Final Freeze?
 @teward001 [@The_LoudSpeaker you mean Final Freeze?], Yeah!
 https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FinalFreeze
[22:18] <wxl> there's a bunch of freezes, @The_LoudSpeaker .. they impose certain limitations on changes 
 Okay. Going through the above link now. Will ask if in doubt.
 @wxl [<wxl> yeah i think @tsimonq2 has abandoned us (this seems to be a trend for meet …], If we need to adjust the time it is ok with me.
[22:22] <guiverc> if I can do anything, please ask (offer made without any guarantees)