Trevinhoduflu: that diff is fine, it's just more verbose if you don't go though commits as per the fact it includes upstream + downstream changes.01:55
Trevinhoyou can test the actual built packages at https://launchpad.net/~ci-train-ppa-service/+archive/ubuntu/3699/+packages if you want01:56
dufluThat's fine. I only asked because the diff size was suspicious for a stable point release-ish01:57
Trevinhoduflu: mentioning the remaining changes is the policy on debian merges... See other ones.05:29
dufluTrevinho, that's fine but you should probably avoid the word "changes".05:29
dufluAnd I disagree with it because it means most of the changelog entry is things that didn't change05:29
dufluIn one case you describe a patch of mine that hasn't changed, but also described it incorrectly...05:30
duflu+    + ubuntu/background_login.patch05:30
duflu+      - Change default background color as we modified the default GDM color05:30
duflu+        for our ubuntu session. Change it as well here, still applying the05:30
duflu+        background noise loading.05:30
dufluWe don't use noise at all05:30
Trevinhoduflu: well... It's remaining changes respect to debian05:30
dufluAnd that patch hasn't changed either05:30
dufluTrevinho, I suggest: (1) don't use the word "change", use "patches"; and (2) Don't try to describe what each one does. Just list the patches05:31
dufluEven then, I don't like the convention of listing things that haven't changed05:32
dufluIt's a changelog05:32
dufluThe problem is that most of the words in the "changelog" entries are devoted to describing what hasn't changed. It's quite misleading05:34
TrevinhoI can see the point... But, well... That's the packaging policy. Although now with git isn't really needed as diffing works just well05:53
Trevinhoseb128: morning06:01
jibelhi world06:25
didrocksgood morning06:29
Trevinhodidrocks: hey... If Laney doesn't get it first, I've prepared the g-s and mutter packaging... Although in debian there were some build failures, so not sure if it landed there yet...06:39
dufluMorning jibel and didrocks06:40
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didrockshey Trevinho, duflu06:45
didrocksTrevinho: I think I'll let that to Laney so that he can sync some part in debian06:45
Trevinhodidrocks: ok, well debian side is already done by himself. But yeah it's probably better so.06:48
oSoMoNgood morning desktoppers07:45
dufluHi oSoMoN07:51
oSoMoNhey duflu07:51
seb128hey trevinho, how are you?07:58
seb128good morning desktopers07:58
oSoMoNsalut seb12807:58
seb128hey duflu didrocks oSoMoN, how is it going?07:58
dufluseb128, going OK. Average. How are you?07:58
oSoMoNall good here, got many things to wrap up before I vanish for a week07:59
seb128duflu, I'm good! average doesn't sound great, hope you have a good evening at least then!07:59
dufluWell the day isn't over yet. Maybe I will make a breakthrough07:59
Laneyhi there08:02
dufluHi Laney08:02
oSoMoNhi Laney08:03
oSoMoNLaney, my librsvg patch was merged upstream: https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/librsvg/commit/aaef7bb37c9f0cceffc3bdf2138ec8024234965308:03
Laneysmooth as silk08:04
oSoMoNthanks to you for handling the upload to debian08:04
willcookemorning all08:05
oSoMoNgood morning willcooke08:06
willcookehow goes oSoMoN?08:06
dufluMorning willcooke08:08
seb128hey Laney, willcooke08:08
seb128how is u.k?08:08
willcookehi duflu seb12808:08
seb128oSoMoN, I sponsored your disco librsvg update yesterday evening btw08:08
willcookeIt's sunny, but I'm cross none the less ;)08:08
seb128willcooke, oh? :(08:09
seb128clean that desk if that's what is bothering you!08:09
willcookeI got my flights sorted for the mid cycle sprint in July (yarly).  Agreed everything, then they issued the tickets with the wrong date.  Got that fixed, the new tickets didnt have any baggage.08:09
willcookeand then Boy #2 peed on the sofa, again.08:10
willcookeMy clean desk is making me happy though08:10
willcookeseb128, have you got anyone who could look at this?  https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-initial-setup/+bug/182418808:10
ubot5`Ubuntu bug 1824188 in gnome-initial-setup (Ubuntu) "Software tab is empty on clean 19.04 install" [High,Confirmed]08:10
willcookeI've flaggeed it as rls-incoming since I consider it important.08:11
seb128"Failed to read from snapd: Error receiving data: Connection reset by peer"08:11
seb128or ken?08:11
seb128looks like a snapd problem?08:11
willcookeah, so the problem is at the snap end?  I did wonder08:11
seb128looks like it yes08:11
willcookeI'll got and ask them08:11
seb128is that happening all the time?08:12
seb128having a journal log from that boot/session could be useful08:12
willcookeseb128, it happens every time, but only the first time.  Subsequent runs of g-i-s work08:13
seb128willcooke, could be that snap seeding is not done yet or whatever was the "snaps are not available until $delay"08:14
willcookekenvandine suggested the same thing08:14
willcookewhich might mean adding something to snapd-glib to add some retries or something?08:15
mvoseb128: it looks like snapd died, can we get journalctl -u snapd ?08:15
mvoseb128: aha, I see this is also discussed in #snappy, I jump over there08:16
GunnarHjHi seb128, any chance you can look at https://code.launchpad.net/~gunnarhj/ubuntu/+source/gnome-control-center/+git/gnome-control-center/+merge/365827 ?08:16
seb128GunnarHj, hey, I saw it, I have a look later08:16
GunnarHj(Robert hasn't been around for a couple of days AFAICT.)08:17
GunnarHjseb128: Ok, good.08:17
seb128he's on VAC for a few days08:17
GunnarHjBad timing. ;)08:18
seb128well, others can review as well, I don't think he knows that code history better than others08:18
GunnarHjseb128: True; it's Tim's thing.08:18
didrockshey seb128, a little bit better, yourself?08:19
oSoMoNseb128, thanks!08:19
didrockshey Laney, oSoMoN, GunnarHj, willcooke08:19
didrockssorry was already eaten in the HO ;)08:19
seb128didrocks, I'm good, kid is better as well, and it's sunny08:19
seb128hopefully a good day :)08:19
didrocksgood :)08:19
oSoMoNsalut didrocks08:19
oSoMoNseb128, the amd64 build for that librsvg upload was cancelled, do you know why?08:20
seb128oSoMoN, no idea, infra issue?08:21
seb128oSoMoN, I retry it08:21
Laneythis seems like a weird duplication of effort given that I said I was sponsoring it already08:22
Laneyhey didrocks08:22
seb128Laney, you did? sorry I didn't see that08:23
seb128there was several screens of backlog when I went to bed, I just looked at the highlights and had a ping from Olivier08:23
seb128it's not much duplication, I just did dget & dput08:23
Laneyhi btw08:23
seb128(with a debsign in the middle)08:23
seb128hey Laney :)08:23
seb128sorry for the dup work08:23
Laneyreview / test?08:24
Laneyk, maybe it takes me longer than it takes you to sponsor stuff ;-)08:24
seb128I've to admit diff looked fine and I trusted Olivier testing08:24
seb128I don't do that for every upload I sponsor :)08:24
willcookekenvandine, andyrock - we need to change g-i-s a bit to do the promoted snaps look up just before displaying that tab.  It's starting too fast (!) and snapd is not ready so we're getting an empty list.  Could either of you take a look at that today?12:46
willcooke(it could probably use a retry option too)12:47
willcookeor, we just remove that page for D and do a proper fix latert12:48
kenvandineprobably something andyrock could do much faster, i've never looked at the g-i-s code12:59
seb128kenvandine, makes sense13:04
seb128andyrock, ^ to discuss once you are back13:04
kenvandinewillcooke: i wonder why this wasn't a problem before though13:07
seb128kenvandine, see #snappy13:12
seb128kenvandine, but yeah, I'm not convinced it's not sign of a problem on their side...13:13
kenvandinei haven't read the scrollback there, but this is a new problem13:16
kenvandinei'll read it13:16
seb128hey Trevinho, how are you today?14:43
willcookemorning Trevinho14:48
Trevinhowillcooke: hey!14:53
didrockshey Trevinho14:56
seb128Trevinho, btw ubuntu-dock still ships an invalid schemas ovveride, did you mean to fix that?14:58
seb128(it probably only a warning/low impact|priority)14:58
Trevinhoseb128: ouch... No. Let me prepare it after breakfast15:04
seb128Laney, do you think you would have some review cycle for https://code.launchpad.net/~gunnarhj/ubuntu/+source/gnome-control-center/+git/gnome-control-center/+merge/365827 ? (the diff itself is probably technically wrong, but to see what that patch does and if it's harmful more than useful)?15:07
seb128I think you might have looked at that patch in the past?15:07
GunnarHjseb128: In what way is the diff technically wrong?15:12
seb128GunnarHj, well, "wrong", I don't like to comment out patches I prefer to delete them if they are buggy15:13
GunnarHjseb128: Aha, a matter of taste. :) Actually, if we want to keep that code intact in the source (for possible future use), I suppose that modifying the gnome-desktop3 patch which provides the problematic function would work too.15:15
seb128GunnarHj, I don't know offhand what that patch does and the gnome-desktop side and didn't have time to look at that yet15:16
seb128which is why I pinged L_aney, maybe he can squeeze having a look later or tomorrow15:16
GunnarHjseb128: I understand. Just wanted to mention that I have thought of alternative ways.15:17
LaneyI'm fine to drop this patch, but we should probably fix the thing to bring the language-selector button back15:18
seb128GunnarHj, that patch has a string change though, so commenting it means changing the UI and a translatable string15:21
Laney"More…" is used elsewhere in the region panel so it's probably fine15:22
GunnarHjLaney: Bringing back the "Manage Installed Languages" button would be very nice.15:26
LaneyRight, I started looking at that a little bit yesterday15:26
GunnarHjseb128: The "More..." thing is not shown currently anyway.15:29
GunnarHjseb128: For languages, that is.15:30
seb128k, I was going to check in a bit (currently having my disco machine under gdb on an Xorg segfault)15:30
seb128Laney, thx for the input, I can handle merging/uploading (I probably want to squeeze 1 or 2 extra changes for g-c-c still)15:31
seb128andyrock, how long does it take for the livepatch indicator to refresh its state?15:50
andyrocka couple of seconds15:50
seb128because I had livepatch status telling me "check-failed" and the indicator showing and error icon15:52
seb128(testing your SRU updates)15:52
seb128refresh would fail on an connect: permission denied15:53
seb128I turned it off and on in the software-properties15:53
seb128it worked15:53
seb128patches applied15:53
seb128the UI lists a list of CVEs now15:53
seb128but the indicator still tells me it's on error15:53
seb128and is not updating15:53
seb128so I was wondering if it's a bug15:53
seb128or if I just need to wait a few min or something15:53
andyrocklooks like a bug15:54
seb128any info I can get you out of gbp while it's in this state?15:55
seb128how does it do its updating? inotify on the status file?15:55
andyrockinotify in the livepatch directory15:56
andyrockmmm let me check one second15:56
andyrockanything in the logs of update-notifier?15:56
seb128I had started it manually from a command line, nothing printed there15:57
seb128the status file was modified when the service was restore15:57
seb128and has "applied 27" as content15:57
seb128so that looks right15:57
andyrockupdate-notifier does not use the status file directly16:00
andyrockit use inotify on the snap common directory (that contains the status file too)16:00
andyrockand when something changes it check-state after a small timeout16:00
andyrocklet me try to reproduce the issue16:03
seb128andyrock, is the debug info included in --debug-inotify? (for next time)16:04
Trevinhodidrocks, seb128: do you remember what was the final decision for transaprency mode on dock then? default, fixed or dynamic? (FIXED: constant transparency. DYNAMIC: dock takes the opaque style only when windows are close to it)16:09
andyrockseb128: sadly using inotify can be a bit racy,  one possible way to mitigate the issue is to increase the timeout or to add a timeout that from time to time triggers a recheck16:10
didrocksTrevinho: I think we told: fixed when not in intellihide mode, and slight fixed transparency when in intellihide mode16:11
kenvandinewillcooke: latest hyperv image is working... mostly :)16:12
Trevinhowell, we can set only one default as gsettings, so I guess fixed for default mode16:12
kenvandineoem-config works and it ends up with all the proper xrdp tweaks16:12
kenvandinebut i'm not getting enhances session mode16:13
didrocksTrevinho: so slight transparency maybe as a fallback? and Fixed16:13
* kenvandine is thinking that's something misconfigured on my end16:13
Laneyg-c-c pushed16:13
Trevinhoseb128: will be ready soon at https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/370116:38
seb128Trevinho, I think it's late now to change the mode16:40
seb128Laney, thx!16:40
Trevinhoseb128: I'm not changing the mode...16:41
seb128andyrock, k, not a bit issue in any case16:41
seb128Trevinho, k, I didn't look, was just stating that :)16:41
seb128andyrock, btw did you see the gnome-initial-setup ping earlier? snapd takes time to be ready in disco and that makes the apps step to be empty16:41
Trevinhoseb128: well, not sure was default then, I set it to FIXED, but actually now is slightly transparent so maybe I should set it to default if we don't want any visual change16:41
andyrockseb128: I didn't see it16:42
andyrocklet me have a look16:42
seb128andyrock, do you think you could have a look today/tomorrow to see if we can make the code retry to contact the server in those cases, like check every 5 seconds for a like 5 minutes and maybe display a spinner?16:42
Trevinhoseb128: cause the fixed was more or less the default one before16:42
seb128Trevinho, well, what's the default today? if the override is ignored I would say the change is just to delete the override so we are sure it's the same behaviour that we have in disco today?16:43
Trevinhobut because adaptive went away I expect we fallback to default...16:43
andyrockseb128: more likely tomorrow (or later tonight)16:43
seb128andyrock, yeah, I was expecting so, it's eod or almost now :)16:44
seb128andyrock, thx16:44
seb128andyrock, let's talk about it tomorrow morning if you want to discuss options16:44
seb128maybe delaying the request to do it when the page is displayed rat her than a start would help16:44
seb128but snapd can take a while so it might not be enough, we probably want to loop retry for a bit16:44
Trevinhoseb128: ok, uploaded with no such change16:47
Trevinhoseb128: I've imported also translations changes and a fix for theming that was requested by yaru guys. No visual change though16:47
GunnarHjLaney: The remaining part of bug #1823778 is about languages represented by locales with modifiers (for instance sr_RS.utf8@latin and ca_ES.utf8@valencia). Such items are screwed up (the modifier dropped) before the list of installed languages ends up in the g-c-c UI and can therefore not be selected from Region & Language. Do you possibly know offhand where that happens?16:49
ubot5`bug 1823778 in gnome-control-center (Ubuntu) "Unable to set Serbian as Language" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/182377816:49
LaneyNo, not right away, sorry16:52
GunnarHjLaney: Didn't have much hope, but thought I'd ask. :/16:53
seb128Trevinho, great, thx17:36
Trevinhoseb128: per se package is ready, waiting for bileto to acknowledge it...17:40
Trevinhoseb128: ok ready for publish now17:55
seb128Trevinho, nice, I did publish it now18:37
seb128kenvandine, jamesh, did you see my status update ping on those cards?19:04
seb128kenvandine, that one for Robert, https://trello.com/c/RH1Db0YR/61-use-snapd-subcategories-in-gnome-software19:04
kenvandineseb128: i didn't19:05
kenvandineno notifications pending for me...19:05
seb128kenvandine, or short version, at this point we are not going to do much more for disco, please review/update/move cards as appropriate19:05
seb128kenvandine, you are on the first 3, do I need to @ken you next time?19:05
seb128or we really need that nagging bot :)19:06
kenvandineShouldn't need to19:06
kenvandineI'll take care of them19:06
seb128there are probably others in the board that need updating/moving19:06
seb128get to them as well if you don't want me to be on your back again on monday :p19:06
oSoMoNI'm off for easter holidays, happy disco release everyone, and see you on the 22nd 🐰19:09
kenvandineseb128: :-D19:11
kenvandineseb128: i just finished publishing the 3.32.1 versions of the seeded snaps19:13
seb128kenvandine, woot!19:13
seb128thx :)19:13
kenvandinethe snap version of gnome-logs says 3.32.0, but it's really 3.32.119:13
willcookethanks for chasing those seb12819:13
kenvandineupstream didn't tag the release19:13
seb128willcooke, yw!19:13
seb128kenvandine, https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/gnome-logs/issues/40 :p19:14
gitbotGNOME issue 40 in gnome-logs "3.32.1 tag missing" [Opened]19:14
kenvandineseb128: yeah :)19:14
seb128kenvandine, it's annoying as well when updating with the gbp git workflow19:14
kenvandinethanks for that19:14
seb128np :)19:14
kenvandinei was going to file that too19:14
kenvandinetagging is a key part of releasing...19:15
willcookeright I need to go and get the kids to bed.  Night all, see you tomorrow19:16
seb128kenvandine, I pinged davidk about the cheese one and he said that he didn't do it because the didn't have a gpg key on the machine he did the release from19:20
seb128so I guess it's the only bit that requires them to sign19:20
seb128(sometime it's also people forgetting to tag or to push)19:20
kenvandinei'd think tarballs would need signing too19:20
seb128I don't think they do19:20
kenvandinemust not19:20
seb128they just require ssh access to copy them iirc19:21
kenvandinelots of people forget to push tags though19:21
kenvandinei wish that was defalt19:21
* kenvandine hates this keyboard... the "u" key is stiff19:21
kenvandinei'm using a keyboard my son gave me... i don't have the heart to tell him i hate it :)19:22
kenvandinei'm very picky about keyboards... but i'm toughing it out :)19:22
seb128'night desktopers and see you tomorrow :)20:12

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