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rfmCarlFK, the debian wiki seems to have the right instructions: https://wiki.debian.org/GmailAndExim4  -- it worked for me up to when I quit using google for mail...00:43
CarlFKrfm: thanks00:45
brendantcc|webwho here prefers ubuntu's unity window man00:49
brendantcc|webalso, does it support multiple displays?00:50
filifunkyHi everyone I'm trying to install mysql but I keep getting this message:  http://www.mpaste.com/p/8EQxp00:57
filifunkyI have purged every mysql package I have in dpkg -l | grep mysql so I don't know why it still says its a follow up error00:58
filifunkyany help?00:58
filifunkyplease please please01:01
OerHeksfirst; you started an install with line #13  2 not upgraded.01:03
filifunky0erHeks, thanks -- so I just have to run a sudo apt-get update?01:04
filifunkyand then an apt-get upgrade, 0erHeks01:05
OerHeksapt update && apt dist-upgrade to be sure01:05
filifunky0erHeks ok, trying now01:05
brendantcc|weboof, canonical team members, the Desktop Sharing settings in ubuntu-unity-desktop crashes the settings program01:06
brendantcc|webi've let it send it through to the devs01:06
filifunky0erHeks, done, should I try a sudo apt install mysql-server?01:07
OerHeksi think it is still installed?01:10
OerHekssystemctrl status mysql01:10
filifunkyit says Unit mysql.service could not be found.01:11
OerHeksyes, you can reinstall01:12
filifunky0erHeks ok, will try01:12
filifunkystill the same error, sigh01:13
filifunky0erHeks any other suggestions01:13
OerHekswell, after install, one should automatic get mysql_secure_installation01:15
OerHekstry apt install -f # to force dependencies?01:15
filifunky0erHeks http://www.mpaste.com/p/x7Jo  still the same01:17
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filifunky0erHeks, I'm out of ideas01:25
filifunkyanyone able to help me?01:26
filifunkyguys anyone able to help me get rid of mysql01:33
filifunkyguess no ubuntuers here01:34
filifunkyanyone available to help me on getting mysql installed01:37
rfmfilifunky, I suspect we01:37
filifunkyhi rfm01:38
rfmfilifunky, are all just baffled.  the problem is the mysql-server-5.7 postinst script failing.01:38
filifunkyrfm yeah I don't know what to do.  Might just throw my computer out the window lol01:39
rfmfilifunky, so you need to debug that.  what I would do is edit the postinst script (it should be in /var/lib/dpkg/info/mysql-server-5.7.postinst according to https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=216949)01:40
ubottuDebian bug 216949 in dpkg "How do you debug a postinst problem" [Wishlist,Open]01:40
rfmfilifunky, add a "set -x" command near the top, then try the install -f again, and see if you can figure out what is making the script fail01:41
filifunkyrfm hmmmmm...../var/lib/dpkg/info/mysql-server-5.7.postinst doesn't exist01:42
rfmfilifunky, then you'll have to root around and see where apt has unpacked it...  I sure don't know off hand.01:44
filifunkyrfm, ok01:45
rfmfilifunky, it's possible that apt install --reinstall mysql-server-5.7 would get the script unpacked there01:47
rfmfilifunky, it probably sounds odd to install it since you're trying to get rid of it, but the problem is it's broken somehow and getting it into a sane state will allow it to uninstall cleanly...01:48
filifunkyrfm ok, checking that out01:49
rfmfilifunky, but this is not something I've done for years (used to have to do it a lot when running debian sid, but the debian devs got a lot better about not uploading broken packages)01:50
rfmfilifunky, and I'm off to make dinner....01:50
filifunkyrfm ok, thanks01:51
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julientmWhat is a good way for me to run a service or use an online service  that offer a way to always get messages01:56
julientmfor irc01:58
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Eickmeyerjulientm: A good way is irccloud, matrix.org, or if you like DIY, there's ZNC and Quassel.02:00
julientmthanks Eickmeyer02:00
julientmmany channels dont have a irc bridge with matrix, for example ubuntu-offtopic, otherwise its what i would use02:01
Eickmeyerjulientm: All of freenode is bridged with some exception.02:01
Eickmeyerjulientm: Also, #ubuntu-offtopic just requires your nick to be registered. If julientm is registered, then you can link your registration.02:02
julientmokay, let me check again02:02
julientmthat is really awesome02:02
Eickmeyerjulientm: You can check freenode.org for more information, or to get help ask in #freenode.02:02
Eickmeyerjulientm: This channel is focused on Ubuntu-specific support only, so keep that in mind.02:03
Eickmeyerjulientm: We are borderline offopic. :)02:03
julientmyes, still new to irc. sorry02:04
Eickmeyerjulientm: No worries.02:04
panoramicsCrypticSquared: Hi02:05
panoramicscryptodan_mobile: Hi02:05
Eickmeyerpanoramics: Did you have an Ubuntu support question?02:05
julientmEickmeyer, thanks for the help though (∩▂∩)02:06
panoramicsEickmeyer: Yes. Is Lubuntu dropping i386 support?02:06
Eickmeyerjulientm: You're quite welcome.02:06
Eickmeyerpanoramics: To my knowledge, yes.02:06
panoramicsEickmeyer: Do you know why for certain?02:07
Eickmeyerpanoramics: Check https://lubuntu.me, I'm pretty sure there was an announcement there at some point.02:07
panoramicsEickmeyer: Thank you for your help.02:08
Bashing-ompanoramics: Lubuntu requested a number of times for user inputs before dropping. Blame the community lack of support for 32 bit.02:08
Eickmeyerpanoramics: You're welcome.02:08
panoramicsBashing-om: That is a major bummer02:09
gislavedis it better to have a seperate nic/bridge for a trunk link between servers ?02:10
gislavedor just bridge it on what you have ?02:10
compdocmight depend on how much traffic02:11
gislavedhe compdoc you here :)02:11
gislavedyes I agree but it's virtio and that can push much more then 10G02:11
compdocIm everywhere02:12
gislavedand the switch is vyos02:12
angelcom ctrl+c can't stop it. how can i do it?02:12
gislavedcompdoc can I safely look back atm ?02:12
compdocI dont know what that means02:12
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gislavedcompdoc now... I mean... you might scare me when standing behind me like you are everywhere02:13
Pyrotechnics777Evening fellow linuxians02:15
gislavedI'm funny02:15
gislavedcompdoc but your statement is pretty meaningless... it's like... can I buy a ferrari, if you have enough money... duh!02:15
Pyrotechnics777Auto erotic asphyxiation is the silent killer02:16
Pyrotechnics777I killed the room02:17
Eickmeyer!ot | Pyrotechnics77702:21
ubottuPyrotechnics777: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please register with NickServ (see /msg ubottu !register) and use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks!02:21
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Vic3Hello Ubuntu 14.04 LTS desktop ... I did long overdue apt-get upgrade while not watching ... the machine seemingly wanted to reboot and did so but the grub prompt came up ... how difficult is it likely going to be to get my machine to boot again?02:34
EickmeyerVic3: This has always worked for me in the past: http://www.system-rescue-cd.org/02:45
EickmeyerVic3: That said, Ubuntu 14.04 will be end-of-life later this month, so I highly recommend updating to 16.04 or 18.04.02:45
Vic3I am aware ...02:46
Vic3Eickmeyer I am in a GRUB2 terminal ...02:49
Vic3Which is where I go when I boot ... is there anything I cando from here?02:49
EickmeyerVic3: I'm afraid I cannot walk you through this. Download the ISO image from that link that I gave you and follow its instructions.02:50
Vic3Hmm, ok.  I guess I will have to wait until morning when I can get blank media.... thanks.02:51
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Vic3Eickmeyer ... found a USB stick ... ok, so I have a firefox browser, gparted, and a text editor ... what am I supposed to do with them?03:23
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boblamonthow do I use a free proxy server in lubuntu? I've got the proxy preferences installed, but when I plug in an example from a free proxy list, my ip still shows up normal04:40
lotuspsychjeboblamont: what kind of proxy's did you find? socks5 or just transparant proxy?04:47
boblamontI think the one I'm trying is just transparent04:47
lotuspsychjeboblamont: thats why it uses your ip then04:48
boblamontah, so how do I tell if it's working?04:48
lotuspsychjeboblamont: you need to find yourself good anon socks5 proxys, and you can enter proxy per application that supports it, or use proxy chains tunnel04:49
sam01hi I am getting net::ERR_SSL_VERSION_INTERFERENCE error randomly on site, any idea what can cause this issue. any suggestion or help around it please05:08
linuxuserHey guys!05:09
linuxuserNew here :D05:09
linuxuserThanks much!05:10
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Snoop_hey anyone there?06:13
Snoop_hello anyone there?06:16
krytarikSnoop_: IRC works best if you just ask an actual question.06:17
Snoop_sorry this is the first time using this06:17
krytarikIn this case it should relate to Ubuntu support.06:17
Snoop_im having trouble installing ubuntu06:17
Snoop_is this the right place for this type of problem?06:18
krytarikYeah, just put out more details.06:18
Snoop_im trying to install ubuntu on a SD Card, ik call me crazy but it something i want to do. during the installation i get a error message saying "The 'grub-efi-ia32' package failed to install into /target/.06:19
Snoop_i made sure to set GRUB to install to the SD card but it wouldnt go thru06:21
Snoop_btw i am trying to dual boot with Windows 1006:21
Snoop_the goal is to have Windows 10 and Ubuntu Dual Boot, Windows 10 being on the SSD and Ubuntu being on the SD Card06:22
Snoop_the sd is going to say in the pc06:22
Snoop_got any ideas?06:22
krytarikNot myself, but please wait a bit for anybody else to shime in.06:23
Snoop_will they be able to see the message above when they log in?06:23
krytarikWell, not if they newly join the channel, but usually there enough people on the channel already who might be able to respond on the issue.06:25
Snoop_ah ok cool, will they be able to ping me or something?06:25
Snoop_kinda like discord?06:25
krytarikLike I did earlier, yes.06:26
Snoop_alright cool thanks06:26
krytarikSnoop_: https://askubuntu.com/questions/260297/why-12-04-fails-to-install-grub-efi-to-target - just looking around, did you have an internet connection when trying to install?06:34
Snoop_no i did not, i was getting problems with the installation when i had a internet connection06:35
Snoop_also thanks for the link imma take a look at this06:35
krytarikWhat version of Ubuntu is this btw?  And Ubuntu proper or a flavor of it?06:36
Snoop_Ubuntu 18.04.2 LTS AMD 6406:37
Snoop_hmm its saying i should have a internet connection available when installing, the thing is when enabling updates and 3rd party software, i get an error message something about media06:40
Snoop_imma try to install again with internet connection, but just having updates enabled06:43
Snoop_not 3rd party software06:43
krytarikYeah, I'd suggest the same.06:44
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kolamanHi All, I'm trying to install ubuntu from Microsoft Store on windows 10 but looks like that is blocked by my company admin (can get that done but a long way to approval even for this small thing). Is there anyother way to get that done without using Ms store06:53
krytarik!wsl | kolaman06:54
ubottukolaman: Windows 10 has a feature called Windows Subsystem for Linux, which allows it to run Ubuntu (and other Linux distro) userspace programs without porting/recompliation. For discussion and support, see #ubuntu-on-windows or ##windows. For installation instructions, see https://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/commandline/wsl/install_guide06:54
kolamanthanks ubottu but the problem is that we need to install that from Ms Store and MS store is blocked in my company06:55
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krytarikWell, people in the mentioned might know if there is another way - people here likely not.06:56
krytarikChannel, I mean.06:56
server24hGuten Morgen zusammen07:16
server24hplease German then myenglish is verry bad.   i´m sorry07:23
EriC^^!de | server24h07:24
ubottuserver24h: In den meisten Ubuntu-Kanälen wird nur Englisch gesprochen. Für deutschsprachige Hilfe besuche bitte #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #edubuntu-de oder #ubuntu-at. Einfach "/join #ubuntu-de" eingeben. Danke für Dein Verständnis!07:24
server24hvielen dank ubottu07:24
Snoop_alright it installed with no problem!07:45
Snoop_however its not booting to ubuntu07:45
Snoop_when i go to the BIOS it gives me 3 options to boot to: Windows, Ubuntu and... Ubuntu07:46
Snoop_Windows it will boot me to Windows, 1st Ubuntu boots me to the GRUB Rescue and the other Ubuntu just turns black and goes back to the BIOS07:47
EriC^^Snoop_: the grub rescue one seems like it has potential, can you boot a live usb to troublehsoot?08:18
Snoop_yeah i can boot a live usb08:20
EriC^^k go for it08:20
Snoop_alrighty im in08:22
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EriC^^Snoop_: type "sudo parted -ls | nc termbin.com 9999"08:24
Snoop_would i need to have internet connection?08:25
Snoop_ok i get an error message08:27
Snoop_and gave me a link08:27
EriC^^copy the link here08:27
EriC^^Snoop_: ok, type "sudo mount /dev/mmcblk2p7 /mnt"08:29
Snoop_ok done08:30
EriC^^Snoop_: type "grep efi /mnt/etc/fstab"08:30
EriC^^what'd do you get?08:30
Snoop_# /boot/efi was on /dev/mmcblk0p1 during installation08:31
Snoop_UUID=60A2-DED0   /boot/efi      vfat      umask=0077       0         108:31
EriC^^ok great08:32
EriC^^type 'sudo mount /dev/mmcblk0p1 /mnt/boot/efi'08:32
Snoop_ok done08:33
EriC^^Snoop_: type "ls -lR /mnt/boot | nc termbin.com 9999"08:33
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EriC^^Snoop_: hmm, everything seems to be fine, i was expecting to see a missing efi/ubuntu/grub.cfg which would give a grub rescue shell, anyways let's keep digging.. type 'sudo efibootmgr -v | nc termbin.com 9999'08:37
EriC^^Snoop_: interesting, one entry seems to be for 32bit uefi, the other for 64bit, any idea how that happened?08:39
Snoop_you mean a version of ubuntu 32bit?08:40
EriC^^no, the uefi version only08:40
EriC^^is it a tablet pc/hybrid?08:40
Snoop_its a 2in1 tablet08:40
Snoop_those really cheap ones08:41
Snoop_nuvision duo 1008:41
EriC^^aha, im guessing you followed some guide to install ubuntu on it?08:41
Snoop_yeah tho i wasnt getting any luck08:41
EriC^^can you share the link, might be useful/insightful08:42
Snoop_oof im not sure what video it was, i was looking thru soo much vids08:42
Snoop_i been fighting with this for 4 days08:42
EriC^^Snoop_: in the meantime, let's first check efi/ubuntu/grub.cfg to see what's actually in there08:42
EriC^^np nevermind08:42
Snoop_tho i think i installed something to the internal storage08:43
EriC^^Snoop_: type "(sudo blkid; cat /mnt/boot/efi/efi/ubuntu/grub.cfg) | nc termbin.com 9999"08:43
Snoop_when i remove the sd card, i can still boot to GRUB rescue08:43
EriC^^with the "(" around them08:43
Snoop_alright give me a min08:43
EriC^^Snoop_: yeah the bootloader is now on the windows drive in the efi partition08:44
Snoop_yeeeeaaah dont want that there08:44
EriC^^it wont interfere, it's just annoying that you'd need both drives to boot ubuntu, is all08:44
Snoop_yeah i agree08:45
EriC^^you could make an efi partition on ubuntu if you wanted, and make an entry for it08:45
EriC^^actually your ubuntu drive is kinda weird right now, it's msdos but it's missing the first primary partition08:45
Snoop_yeah its all weird rn08:46
EriC^^that's why i checked /boot as well, thought it might have been separate and deleted,08:46
EriC^^Snoop_: it has 8mb at the start, so you could make an efi partition with that if you want08:46
Snoop_the goal is to have windows 10 in the internal and Ubuntu on the SD card, and be able to dual boot08:46
Snoop_also if possible use Windows Boot Manager instead of grub08:47
EriC^^Snoop_: do you want ubuntu to be standalone?08:47
Snoop_yeah just have ubuntu installed to the SD card08:47
EriC^^ok, anyways08:48
Snoop_but i put 2 partitions on the sd card since this tablet comes with only 30 GB08:48
EriC^^Snoop_: type "(sudo blkid; cat /mnt/boot/efi/efi/ubuntu/grub.cfg) | nc termbin.com 9999"08:48
EriC^^Snoop_: oh there's the problem08:49
EriC^^in grub.cfg it has search.fs_uuid 75d8c1d7-ccc9-4594-884a-a1c7d8f95869 root08:49
Snoop_o dear08:49
EriC^^meanwhile the root's uuid is actually /dev/mmcblk2p7: UUID="64af0cd7-cccd-4bc8-8009-24c30d92e447" TYPE="ext4"08:49
Snoop_ah ok08:50
Snoop_so it was looking at the wrong spot08:50
EriC^^Snoop_: ok, let's get this thing booting first, and later if you want to move the efi to ubuntu's disk we can do it fairly quickly08:50
EriC^^Snoop_: yeah08:50
Snoop_what exactly is the efi?08:51
EriC^^Snoop_: type "for i in /dev /dev/pts /proc /sys /run; do sudo mount -B $i /mnt$i; done"08:51
EriC^^Snoop_: it's the bootloader system08:51
ubottuUEFI is a specification that defines a software interface between an operating system and platform firmware. It is meant as a replacement for the BIOS. For information on how to set up and install Ubuntu and its derivatives on UEFI machines please read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UEFI08:51
Snoop_o but shouldnt the efi say in the internal storage?08:52
dymHey all! Im trying to generate a situation where only the connection of certain hosts to ssh is allowed via key based authentication. This doesnt seem to work and offer third hosts a password based auth: https://pastebin.com/raw/6tbp4X7t - why is that and how do i correct it?08:53
EriC^^Snoop_: in the ubuntu disk you mean?08:53
EriC^^Snoop_: or windows?08:53
Snoop_on windows08:53
Snoop_rn windows is installed to the internal storage08:53
EriC^^Snoop_: not really, see if you put ubuntu on a different pc right now, it's missing its bootloader so you wouldnt be able to boot it08:54
Snoop_and ubuntu is installed to a external storage08:54
EriC^^i'd rather myself have standalone installs not depending on different disks/os to boot08:54
Snoop_i would like it to have ubuntu just boot only for this pc08:55
Snoop_i want it so if i do put the SD on another pc it wont boot08:55
EriC^^well in that case you could leave the efi bootloader on the windows efi partition08:55
EriC^^perfect then :)08:55
EriC^^did you run the for i in .... command?08:56
Snoop_i did and i got an error08:56
EriC^^what was the error08:57
Snoop_mount: /mnt: mount(2) system call failed: No such file or directory.08:57
Snoop_maybe i typed it wrong?08:57
EriC^^Snoop_: possibly, type "echo !-1 | nc termbin.com 9999"08:58
Snoop_bash: syntax error near unexpected token 'do'08:59
EriC^^Snoop_: type "history | tail -4 | nc termbin.com 9999"09:00
EriC^^Snoop_: i think you missed the ";" before do09:01
EriC^^Snoop_: oh, that's an i not 109:02
Snoop_oooo its 109:02
Snoop_lol my b09:02
EriC^^np :D09:02
Snoop_alright i did the for i command09:04
EriC^^Snoop_: ok, type "sudo chroot /mnt"09:04
EriC^^Snoop_: type "dpkg -l | grep grub | nc termbin.com 9999"09:05
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EriC^^Snoop_: you can just type the last 4 letters of the pastebin09:07
EriC^^Snoop_: ok, seems a bit of a mess nothing too big, grub-pc (legacy bios) is kind of installed alongside grub-efi09:07
EriC^^Snoop_: type "apt-get purge grub-pc grub-pc-bin"09:08
EriC^^Snoop_: type 'grub-install'09:09
Snoop_i got a message saying do you want to have all GRUB 2 files removed from /boot/grub09:10
EriC^^when you did the purge command?09:10
Snoop_when i typed "apt-get purge grub-pc grub-pc-bin"09:10
EriC^^ok say yes09:10
Snoop_ok done09:11
Snoop_do i now type 'grub-install'?09:11
EriC^^Snoop_: yeah09:11
Snoop_alright installation finished no error09:12
EriC^^Snoop_: nice, type "update-grub'09:12
Snoop_ok done09:13
EriC^^Snoop_: finally type 'cat /boot/efi/efi/ubuntu/grub.cfg | nc termbin.com 9999'09:13
EriC^^let's see if it fixed that file09:13
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EriC^^Snoop_: odd, type "cat /etc/fstab | nc termbin.com 9999"09:14
EriC^^Snoop_: ok that one is right09:16
EriC^^Snoop_: type 'rm /boot/efi/efi/ubuntu/grub.cfg'09:16
EriC^^then 'grub-install' again09:16
EriC^^i want to see if it's actually creating it, maybe its putting it somewhere else i dunno09:16
Snoop_alright installed no errors09:17
EriC^^ok, what's now in 'cat /boot/efi/efi/ubuntu/grub.cfg | nc termbin.com 9999' ?09:17
EriC^^termbin.com/bttr hopefully xD09:18
EriC^^it doesnt exist?09:19
EriC^^Snoop_: type "ls -lR /boot | nc termbin.com 9999"09:20
Snoop_im getting cat: /boot/efi/efi/ubuntu/grub.cfg: No such file or directory09:20
EriC^^that makes sense, it must be creating it somewhere else or ...09:20
EriC^^hmm it doesnt seem to be creating it anywhere, oddly enough09:22
Snoop_hmm weird09:23
EriC^^Snoop_: type "grub-install --target=ia32-efi --efi-directory=/boot/efi"09:24
EriC^^im not sure of the --target for 32bit efi let me google09:24
EriC^^Snoop_: type "grub-install --target=i386-efi --efi-directory=/boot/efi"09:25
Snoop_alright its installed no error09:26
EriC^^Snoop_: ok, cool, any grub.cfg created?09:26
EriC^^Snoop_: type "ls -lR /boot | nc termbin.com 9999"09:26
EriC^^Snoop_: if it still won't add it, we could try reinstalling the relevant grub-ia32-efi packages and see if it does that, as a last resort we can just manually create the file, and since it doesnt seem to be adding it, hopefully in the future it wont modify it in any way09:27
Snoop_alright hopefully we can get this working09:29
Snoop_i appreciate all the help man!09:29
EriC^^Snoop_: no problem09:29
Snoop_so what should i do next?09:29
SimonNL-r--r--r-- 1 root root  8196 Apr 11 05:12 grub.cfg     /boot/grub:        that it EriC^^ ?09:30
EriC^^Snoop_: ok, type "apt-get install --reinstall grub-efi-ia32 grub-efi-ia32-bin grub-common grub2-common"09:30
EriC^^SimonNL: nah, that's the config for the menu generated by update-grub09:30
EriC^^Snoop_: ok last time before we bruteforce this :D "ls -lR /boot/efi | nc termbin.com 9999"09:32
EriC^^Snoop_: nope, no worries though09:34
EriC^^Snoop_: type "wget -O /tmp/grub.cfg https://termbin.com/4u67"09:36
EriC^^Snoop_: then type "cp /tmp/grub.cfg /boot/efi/efi/ubuntu/grub.cfg"09:37
mIk3_08no desktop Linux for me ----- hahahahhahahahahahahahahahha09:37
EriC^^as well as "cp /tmp/grub.cfg /boot/efi/efi/grub/grub.cfg"09:37
mIk3_08no desktop Linux for me ----- hahahahhahahahahahahahahahha09:38
EriC^^the grub-install seems to be also creating /efi/grub  (it should only do efi/ubuntu but i guess it's a bug) so in the future if it references that to the uefi entry in efibootmgr it should still work cause we copied a grub.cfg there too09:38
Snoop_im getting connection refused09:38
Snoop_o wait09:39
Snoop_i did a typo09:39
Snoop_alright did the first command09:40
EriC^^Snoop_: ok09:40
EriC^^Snoop_: did you run the 2 cp commands?09:42
Snoop_yea did it09:42
MissPaingood morning09:43
EriC^^Snoop_: ok, try rebooting to see if it works, lastly we might want to clean up the uefi list, i guess it has multiple grub/ubuntu entries now09:43
Snoop_alright so reboot09:44
EriC^^Snoop_: yeah, first exit the chroot with "exit" then reboot09:44
Snoop_should i remove the live USB?09:44
EriC^^only after the pc has switched off09:44
MissPaini got a question regarding some strange behaviour that occured today on my ubuntu budgie live dvd distro - I logged on, opened tilix and the suffix wasnt ubuntu-budgie@ubuntu-budgie - it said keycontrol@ubuntu-budgie or something similiar09:45
MissPaini installed filezilla by using get apt install filezilla and in filezilla the file browser showed a folder keycontrol next to home, downloads and stuff09:45
MissPainthis never happened before - now there is a folder /usr/share/budgie-desktop/keycontrol containing several files - might this be security related ?09:46
Snoop_when i reboot it took me to Windows without giving me an option to boot to anything else09:47
Snoop_when i went to the BIOS settings i now have 4 options09:48
EriC^^Snoop_: is there a one-time boot menu you can use?09:48
EriC^^Snoop_: try the "grub" entry it's most likely to work09:48
Snoop_i booted to grub and i got went to the grub rescue09:49
Snoop_error: no such device: 64af0cd7-cccd-4bc8-8009-24c30d92e44709:49
EriC^^Snoop_: aha09:53
EriC^^Snoop_: let's try manually booting from grub then09:53
EriC^^Snoop_: type "ls -l" does it list the ext4 partition that has ubuntu with the aforementioned uuid?09:54
Snoop_type it on the grub rescue?09:54
Snoop_is that a L or 1?09:55
EriC^^small L09:55
Snoop_error: unknown filesystem09:56
EriC^^try just "ls" what does it list?09:56
Snoop_(hd0) (hd1) (hd2)09:57
EriC^^it should list various (gpt,xx) partitions (the windows ones) and (msdos,xx) which are the ubuntu ones09:57
Snoop_it only shows (hd0) (hd1) (hd2)09:57
EriC^^sorry i mean (hd0,msdos) etc09:57
EriC^^well that's odd09:59
EriC^^try booting the live usb, and when you get the 'try ubuntu/install' menu, press "c" to drop to a grub shell09:59
EriC^^Snoop_: i think grub is supposed to have in its grub.efi the capabilities to read the various partitions/filesystems10:00
Snoop_alright im in the grub shell10:01
EriC^^Snoop_: ok, type "ls"10:01
Snoop_alright cool got something more promising10:01
EriC^^Snoop_: what are the msdos ones?10:01
Snoop_(hd0) (hd0, msdos1) is the only one10:02
EriC^^Snoop_: type "configfile (hd0,msdos1)/boot/grub/grub.cfg"10:02
BluesKajHi folks10:02
MissPainanyone got time to look into my issue ? if so pls om10:03
EriC^^Snoop_: any luck?10:04
Snoop_uh took me back to the try ubuntu screen10:04
Snoop_....then it auto booted to ubuntu10:04
BluesKaj!pm | MissPain10:04
ubottuMissPain: Please ask your questions in the channel so that other people can help you, benefit from your questions and answers, and ensure that you're not getting bad advice.10:04
EriC^^Snoop_: hmm it should load the menu for the actual install10:04
Snoop_maybe it will once its finished loading10:05
Snoop_o nvm yeah im just in the live usb desktop10:05
MissPaini got a question regarding some strange behaviour that occured today on my ubuntu budgie live dvd distro - I logged on, opened tilix and the suffix wasnt ubuntu-budgie@ubuntu-budgie - it said keycontrol@ubuntu-budgie or something similiar - I then installed filezilla by using get apt install filezilla and in filezilla the file browser showed a folder keycontrol next to home, downloads and stuff - this never happened before - now ther10:05
MissPaini got a question regarding some strange behaviour that occured today on my ubuntu budgie live dvd distro - I logged on, opened tilix and the suffix wasnt ubuntu-budgie@ubuntu-budgie - it said keycontrol@ubuntu-budgie or something similiar - I then installed filezilla by using get apt install filezilla and in filezilla the file browser showed a folder keycontrol next to home, downloads and stuff - this never happened before - now ther10:05
Snoop_should i go back to the grub shell and try again?10:05
MissPaina folder callenow there is a folder /usr/share/budgie-desktop/keycontrol containing several files - might this be security related ?10:06
EriC^^Snoop_: yeah10:06
EriC^^Snoop_: try "ls -l" in the grub shell10:07
EriC^^it'll give more info10:07
EriC^^ill bb in 2mins10:08
brlinMissPain: Host the files somewhere online and let people verify it.10:08
Snoop_error: file '-l' not found10:09
booeeewAnyone use mysql? Does anyone know if the Tar's here https://bit.ly/2IazPVX have the client ?10:10
MissPainby opening tilix the console says: ubuntu-budgie@ubuntu-budgie: /usr/share/budgie-desktop/keycontrol$10:14
MissPainis this normal ?10:14
EriC^^Snoop_: ok try "ls (hd0,msdos1)/home"10:21
EriC^^Snoop_: ok try "ls (hd0,msdos1)/home/"10:21
Snoop_error: invalid sector size 010:24
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EriC^^Snoop_: yikes10:24
EriC^^Snoop_: try a bit more like "ls (hd0,msdos1)" see what it says10:25
Snoop_same thing10:26
Snoop_error: invalid sector size 010:26
EriC^^Snoop_: try "ls" again what other disks are there10:26
Snoop_(hd0) (hd1) (hd1,gpt4) (hd1,gpt3) (hd1,gpt2) (hd1,gpt1) (hd2) (hd3)10:28
Snoop_weird tho earlier i did the same command and hd0,msdos1 appeared10:29
EriC^^try rebooting and see if it appears10:31
HiDeHo-U3hi all having trouble trying to remember the admin password on my old pc10:32
Snoop_ok (hd0,msdos1) appeared again10:33
=== HiDeHo-U3 is now known as HiDeHo
EriC^^HiDeHo-U3: boot into grub's recovery and reset it10:33
EriC^^Snoop_: ok try "ls (hd0,msdos1)/home/"10:33
EriC^^it should list your username for the instal10:33
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=== Taco is now known as 07IABBQ2F
Snoop_error: file '/home/' not found10:35
EriC^^Snoop_: try "ls (hd0,msdos)/"10:35
EriC^^Snoop_: try "ls (hd0,msdos1)/"10:35
=== 07IABBQ2F is now known as Taco
EriC^^Snoop_: if that doesn't work, try "insmod ext2" then try again10:36
Snoop_System volume Information/ ldlinux.sys .disk/ boot/ casper/ dists/ efi/ install/ isolinux/ md5sum.txt pics/ pool/ preseed/ README.diskdefines ubuntu syslinux.cfg autorun.inf autorun/ico10:37
EriC^^Snoop_: oh, that looks like the live usb10:38
Snoop_this appeared when i did ls (hd0,msdos1)/10:38
EriC^^Snoop_: are there any other disks/partitions in the output of "ls" ?10:38
EriC^^try "insmod ext2" then "ls" again10:38
Snoop_(hd0) (hd0,msdos1) (hd1) (hd1,gpt4) (hd1,gpt3) (hd1,gpt2) (hd1,gpt1) (hd2) (hd3)10:39
EriC^^i guess it's hd2 or hd310:39
EriC^^does "ls (hd2)" read anything10:40
EriC^^Snoop_: i wonder if it's having a hard time reading it since there's no primary partition on it, so it just ignores the partition table listing10:40
Snoop_(hd2): filesystem is unknown10:40
Katnipoops wrong window sorry10:41
EriC^^Snoop_: it could be that, or it cant actually read that disk from the BIOS, in which case you could put ubuntu's /boot on the windows disk, that way it loads the kernel and grub and whatnot from there, and continues normally10:41
EriC^^Snoop_: let's try booting the live usb, and creating a primary partition for the ubuntu disk, so it's set up up to standard/code10:41
Snoop_so u think the BIOS doesnt read the SD Card?10:42
EriC^^Snoop_: either that, or it's ignoring it cause it's used to finding a primary partition there10:42
EriC^^i'm more inclined to the former though, but it's worth a shot to see if a primary partition and whatever flags it likes are set10:43
Snoop_yeah i was thinking the same thing10:43
Snoop_the BIOS doesnt say anything about a SD card10:43
Snoop_but lets give this a try10:44
Snoop_alright im in the desktop10:44
EriC^^Snoop_: ok, type "sudo fdisk /dev/mmcblk2"10:45
EriC^^then type "p" to list the partitions, it should list the ubuntu ones, 44gb and 2gb swap etc10:46
Snoop_alright got a list of partitions10:46
EriC^^are they the ubuntu ones?10:46
EriC^^this is the partition tables for reference http://termbin.com/2gw010:47
Snoop_yeah it only shows the mmcblk210:48
EriC^^Snoop_: press "q" to quit10:48
EriC^^Snoop_: then type 'sudo parted -ls | nc termbin.com 9999'10:48
EriC^^Snoop_: ok, type 'sudo cfdisk /dev/mmcblk2'10:50
EriC^^in the 8mb unallocated space at the top, create a primary partition10:50
Snoop_i got a 6.9m free space and a 6m free space10:52
EriC^^Snoop_: use the one at the top10:52
Snoop_ok i got /dev/mmcblk2p2 created with linux10:53
EriC^^Snoop_: ok, press on "Bootable" it should make a "*" somewhere10:53
EriC^^then press "write" and type "yes" to confirm10:53
Snoop_alright * appeared next to /dev/mmcblk2p210:54
Snoop_and the partition table has been altered10:54
EriC^^great, type 'sudo partprobe'10:55
EriC^^then type 'sudo parted -ls | nc termbin.com 9999' again10:55
Snoop_do i hit quit first?10:55
EriC^^looks good, try rebooting and use the live usb to see if it picks up the partitions for the ubuntu disk10:57
EriC^^Snoop_: as for plan B there is 4      30.2GB  31.3GB  1049MB  ntfs         Basic data partition          hidden, diag which looks like a potentially usable space for ubuntu's /boot, but i think it would remove the native recovery features of the PC10:58
Snoop_alright i rebooted and do i go to the grub shell or live usb desktop?11:00
EriC^^the efi could potentially be used, but it would be a very tight fit, 105mb with windows + ubuntu taking up like 50mb so you'd be left with 50mb for the ubuntu's /boot11:00
EriC^^Snoop_: yeah11:00
Snoop_so go to grub shell?11:01
Snoop_ok im here11:01
EriC^^Snoop_: type "ls"11:01
Snoop_(hd0) (hd0,msdos1) (hd1) (hd1,gpt4) (hd1,gpt3) (hd1,gpt2) (hd1,gpt1) (hd2) (hd3)11:02
linuxuserpoposWindows? lol get away with that11:02
EriC^^Snoop_: same thing i guess, it isnt reading the ubuntu disk11:02
EriC^^Snoop_: you could use the windows disk for ubuntu's /boot if you want11:04
Snoop_have the windows disk do the boot, it wont have the Ubuntu OS there right?11:05
Snoop_i only have like....7GB left there11:05
EriC^^Snoop_: it'll have ubuntu's /boot which contains the kernel/initramfs + grub files11:05
EriC^^1gb is more than enough for it11:05
Snoop_ok and it will load the OS on the SD card?11:06
EriC^^yeah it'll load and use the disk space on the sd card for programs + the /home dir etc11:06
Snoop_alright lets do it11:06
EriC^^Snoop_: ok, boot the live usb again11:06
EriC^^are you sure you have 7gb free there? you mean free or unallocated snoop?11:07
EriC^^Snoop_:  i think you meant free, like in window's C:\ there's 7gb free, right?11:07
Snoop_yeah on the c:\11:08
EriC^^Snoop_: we need some unallocated space, so we can create a partition for ubuntu's /boot11:08
EriC^^Snoop_: you could either shrink the windows one, that's an option11:08
Snoop_ok so are we going to take 1GB from the 7GB?11:09
EriC^^(you'd have to shrink it from windows, i wouldnt trust linux's ntfs stuff, it's biten me in the butt many times)11:09
Snoop_ok yeah imma do that11:09
EriC^^Snoop_: if you want, or you could use this partition, but i think it would remove the pc's recovery options11:09
EriC^^this one, the 4th partition in the list 4      30.2GB  31.3GB  1049MB  ntfs         Basic data partition          hidden, diag11:09
Snoop_nah i want the recovery options11:09
EriC^^it's 1gb and it says 'hidden,diag(diagnostics)'11:09
Snoop_so imma have to boot to windows and shrink the size11:10
EriC^^Snoop_: boot into windows, shrink what you can from it, /boot just has to be like 512mb is even enough if space is tight11:10
EriC^^512mb would be great11:10
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Snoop_i can only shrink 407 mb11:24
Snoop_is that fine?11:24
Snoop__ok got 400 mb unallocated11:29
EriC^^Snoop__: i got d/c back now11:30
Snoop__o alright then11:31
Snoop__Thanks for the help man!11:31
HiDeHoanyone know wheer i can get arm versions of firefox and chromium11:35
EriC^^Snoop__: np let me know when the shrinking is finished11:35
Snoop__its done11:35
Snoop__got 400mb11:36
Snoop__couldnt do 407mb....for some reason11:36
EriC^^Snoop__: ok, boot into the live usb again11:42
EriC^^Snoop__: type 'sudo parted -ls | nc termbin.com 9999'11:43
leftyfbHiDeHo: sudo apt install firefox11:47
EriC^^Snoop__: type "sudo cgdisk /dev/mmcblk0"11:47
EriC^^make a partition in the unallocated space at the end, set the type to "8300"11:48
Snoop__the 400 mib one?11:49
HiDeHoleftyfb, you know that would work but--- this os is eol and repos are dead. no i cant update to a newer os on thsi ODROID device11:49
HiDeHoso i am stuck with ubuntu 14.0411:49
leftyfbHiDeHo: then it's unsupported11:49
EriC^^Snoop__: yeah11:51
Snoop__it says first sector11:52
HiDeHoi knowq11:52
HiDeHoi was only asking if there was a arm versions of firefox and chromium11:52
=== sins-_w is now known as sins-
EriC^^Snoop__: press enter for the defaults11:54
=== ubuntu is now known as Guest92066
Snoop__size in sectors?11:56
Snoop__same thing11:56
EriC^^Snoop__: yeah use the defaults11:56
Snoop__Enter new partition name11:57
Snoop__or just hit enter11:57
EriC^^type 'ubuntu boot' or whatever you'd like or hit enter11:57
Snoop__alright its now the Linux filesystem11:58
EriC^^Snoop__: ok, did you set the type to 8300?11:58
Snoop__yea before it asked for the new partition name11:59
EriC^^Snoop__: alright, write the table and exit12:00
Snoop__ok done12:01
EriC^^Snoop__: type "sudo partprobe; sudo parted -ls | nc termbin.com 9999"12:03
EriC^^Snoop__: type "sudo mkfs.ext4 /dev/mmcblk0p5"12:07
Snoop__alright done12:07
EriC^^Snoop__: type "sudo mount /dev/mmcblk0p5 /mnt"12:08
EriC^^Snoop__: also type "sudo mount /dev/mmcblk2p7 /cdrom"12:08
EriC^^Snoop__: type 'sudo rsync -av /cdrom/boot/ /mnt'    (the "/" after boot is important)12:09
Snoop__ok done12:10
EriC^^Snoop__: type "sudo blkid /dev/mmcblk0p5 | nc termbin.com 9999"12:11
Snoop__ok i think this is it12:12
EriC^^Snoop__: type 'sudo nano /cdrom/etc/fstab'12:13
EriC^^Snoop__: you need to add the line for /boot12:13
EriC^^UUID=ed038e47-bda4-42cc-80ea-9a3225e06b09 /boot ext4 defaults 0 112:14
EriC^^add that somewhere then save and exit with ctrl+x12:14
Snoop__so put UUID=ed038e47-bda4-42cc-80ea-9a3225e06b09 /boot ext4 defaults 0 1 at the bottom?12:14
EriC^^Snoop__: now to confirm all is good, type "ls -l /mnt | nc termbin.com 9999"12:16
EriC^^Snoop__: ok, since we copied /boot to the partition now to remove it from the ubuntu main partition, "sudo rm -r /cdrom/boot && sudo mkdir /cdrom/boot"12:19
EriC^^Snoop__: type "for i in /dev /dev/pts /proc /sys /run; do sudo mount -B $i cdrom$i; done"12:21
EriC^^sorry typo12:21
EriC^^Snoop__: type "for i in /dev /dev/pts /proc /sys /run; do sudo mount -B $i /cdrom$i; done"12:21
Snoop__ok done12:22
EriC^^Snoop__: type "sudo chroot /cdrom"12:22
EriC^^Snoop__: "ls /boot" is empty right?12:23
Snoop__i get nothing when typing that12:23
EriC^^Snoop__: ok great, type "mount -a"12:24
Snoop__o wait12:24
Snoop__says mount: /boot/efi: mount point does not exist12:24
EriC^^hmm, i guess it works in order, fstab12:25
EriC^^try "mount /boot"12:25
EriC^^then "mount /boot/efi"12:25
EriC^^you might have to switch the /boot line to the top i guess12:25
Snoop__alright i put in mount /boot12:26
EriC^^aha, and "mount /boot/efi" ?12:27
Snoop__says /dev/mmcblk0ps already mounted on /boot12:27
Snoop__says /dev/mmcblk0p5 already mounted on /boot12:27
EriC^^Snoop__: ok, type 'nano /etc/fstab' move the /boot line you added earlier to the top after the "/" one12:28
EriC^^Snoop__: type 'cat /etc/fstab | nc termbin.com 9999' use gedit way easier12:28
EriC^^*i'll use12:29
EriC^^Snoop__: wget -O /etc/fstab https://termbin.com/2lyo12:31
EriC^^Snoop__: ok, type "grub-install --target=i386-efi --efi-directory=/boot/efi'12:33
Snoop__alright installed no error12:34
EriC^^Snoop__: type "update-grub"12:34
Snoop__ok done12:35
EriC^^Snoop__: there's one last issue, earlier when we tried the grub.efi on the windows hdd, it wasnt listing any partitions at all for some reason, i was thinking we could just copy the grub.efi found on the live usb instead if that happens, anyways we'll found out in a bit i guess12:36
EriC^^Snoop__: type "exit" then reboot with the live usb out12:36
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EriC^^if you get a grub rescue shel or whatever, type "ls" to see if it can see the partitions, now the ubuntu one should be one of the (hd1,gptxxx) one's if it lists them12:37
Snoop__alright it booted to windows12:38
Snoop__going to one time boot12:38
EriC^^Snoop__: ok, how many entries are there for ubuntu?12:38
EriC^^nevermind, let's just see if it will list the hd,gpt ones hopefully12:39
Snoop__i have 4 options to boot windows boot loader, grub, ubuntu and ubuntu. grub takes me straight to grub rescue and one ubuntu took me to gnu grub and the other just leaves a black screen12:40
Snoop__i was able to boot to ubuntu without the live USB12:41
filifunkyhi guys I'm tired of trying to figure out the solution to my problem is there a way to restart everything like a factory reset and start from scratch?  I have everything backed up that I want backed up.12:42
EriC^^Snoop__: it worked?12:42
leftyfbfilifunky: you've already been told, no12:42
leftyfbfilifunky: reinstall12:42
Snoop__yeah it went thru!12:43
EriC^^Snoop__: awesome!12:43
Snoop__tho whats with the other ubuntu?12:43
filifunkyleftyfb I don't remember ever asking this12:43
Snoop__tho whats with the other ubuntu option?12:43
EriC^^Snoop__: they're old entries, we can delete them using efibootmgr12:43
Snoop__o ok12:43
leftyfbfilifunky: ok, sorry. Might have been someone else12:44
Snoop__is there a way to have windows boot loader give me a option to boot to ubuntu12:44
leftyfbfilifunky: no12:44
Snoop__that way i dont have to always go to BIOS to boot to ubuntu12:44
leftyfbSnoop__: no12:44
leftyfbfilifunky: there is no factory reset.12:44
EriC^^Snoop__: leftyfb yeah there is, you have to edit the bcd stuff12:44
rypervenchefilifunky: Reinstalling is essentially a factory reset :P12:44
leftyfbSnoop__: make GRUB the default and add windows to the grub menu by just running sudo update-grub12:44
EriC^^above would be easier i guess, the nice thing is that grub is totally on the windows disk right now, so if you remove the ubuntu disk, you should still be able to boot into windows from grub, Snoop__12:45
leftyfbEriC^^: ah, that's news to me. Something new to Windows 10?12:45
Snoop__but with windows boot loader should do the same right?12:46
EriC^^leftyfb: actually i'm not sure tbh, im second thinking it right now, usually you can have multiple windows in it, but not sure if you can have a grub item, you can set grub as default but i dont think it gives a selection option12:46
EriC^^i opt for using grub as leftyfb suggested12:46
EriC^^Snoop__: i'm not sure it would give you a selection, let me google real quick12:46
EriC^^not a lot of info online about it12:48
filifunkyok guys thanks. There is a folder I am trying to get into and I get a permission denied.  If I sudo cd into it I get a command not found.  Any way around this?12:49
filifunkyI'm trying to find out if there is a config file in there screwing things up12:49
Snoop__similar to https://i.stack.imgur.com/A12nL.png12:50
EriC^^Snoop__: try to see if there is easybcd for uefi12:50
EriC^^for mbr it apparently can do it12:51
EriC^^Snoop__: oh, it wont work, microsoft has banned adding entries of older ms os or linux12:52
Snoop__aw alright then12:52
EriC^^Snoop__: you'll have to use grub if you want to avoid the BIOS one time menu12:52
Snoop__ok how do i have grub as my main12:52
EriC^^filifunky: sudo cd doesnt do anything, cd is a built in command for bash12:53
EriC^^filifunky: try 'sudo -i' then "cd /path/to/dir"12:53
nullbyte_how can i increse more space for /tmp folder?12:53
nullbyte_to incrase just /tmp folder12:53
EriC^^Snoop__: type "sudo efibootmgr -v | nc termbin.com 9999"12:53
Snoop__o uhhh12:54
Snoop__something weird is going on12:54
EriC^^do tell :D12:54
Snoop__the screen is flipped and my cursor is on the other side12:54
Snoop__like everything is mirrored12:55
EriC^^try settings > display or so12:55
filifunkythanks EriC^^, worked12:56
EriC^^filifunky: great,no problem12:56
Snoop__nothing on display settings12:58
Snoop__my mouse is upside down12:58
EriC^^Snoop__: hmm odd, try for now opening a terminal with "ctrl+alt+t"13:01
EriC^^to clean up the uefi entries and try to set grub as the default bootloader13:02
noodlecanhow do I list installable kernel's with apt if the kernel says it is being held back "linux-generic linux-headers-generic"  I am looking for the available kernel version that would be installed if I ran (--with-new-pkgs) only w/o installing as in when running --just-print with apt13:02
Snoop__alright got it open13:04
dymHey all! Im trying to generate a situation where only the connection of certain hosts to ssh is allowed via key based authentication. This doesnt seem to work and offer third hosts a password based auth: https://pastebin.com/raw/6tbp4X7t - why is that and how do i correct it?13:07
akkonradI've installed ubuntu 18.04 and I have some issues when running apps installed by snap. I get this error: https://www.pastery.net/vquuwq/13:07
akkonradbut reinstalling the app does not help.13:07
akkonradand funny thing - it was wokring previously, but suddenly some apps stopped13:07
EriC^^Snoop__: type "sudo efibootmgr -v | nc termbin.com 9999"13:08
EriC^^Snoop__: any link it gave back?13:10
EriC^^ok the bootcurrent is 0000, so thats what we want to keep13:10
EriC^^Snoop__: type sudo efibootmgr -B -b 000113:11
EriC^^Snoop__: also type sudo efibootmgr -B -b 000313:11
EriC^^now it gets tricky, some uefi are designed to only boot microsoft, unless you modify some settings in the bios, as a start we could try to disable the windows entry and that might work13:12
EriC^^what make is the pc?13:12
Snoop__its a Nuvision Duo 1013:13
noodlecanfurther description of my question, i can run ap-cache search "pkg" but that only gives me a list of available kernels, I am not sure which of the available kernels would be the next in line.  Example.  my workstation running kernel is 4.18.0-16 but when i do apt-cache search i see everything from 4.14.x.x through 4.18.0-17 which I assume would be13:13
noodlecanthe next available kernel, but are all kernel upgrades single point updates or will version be skipped if say patching is something like quarterly.  - Thanks13:13
EriC^^Snoop__: did you notice any uefi list in the bios where you can switch the order of the entries? or 'trust' a certain entry13:13
Snoop__i can switch the order of the entries idk about the trust part tho13:14
EriC^^Snoop__: oh great, try to set the ubuntu one before the windows13:14
EriC^^Snoop__: in the future, you'll have to once in a while run 'sudo apt-get autoremove --purge' so that the old kernels that stack up in /boot get deleted and it doesnt hog up the space there13:15
EriC^^it's not too bad though every kernel/initrd are like 30mb or so combined so you have some way room before it starts filling up heavily13:16
Snoop__ah ok13:16
rekhi guys i connected my 3g dongle using wvdial which brings up a pp0 interface but i get packet filtered trying to ping google... which rule is wrong?13:25
compdoc wvdial uses rules?13:29
rekiptables does13:30
compdocso you setup iptables13:30
Snoop__got it working EriC13:30
reki don't know what i should add there...generally all it's open at least for outgoing connections13:31
compdocicmp packets for pings13:31
rekhttps://pastebin.com/9EPxSeG1 compdoc my current config13:35
compdocrek, you might ask in ##networking. I've never used iptables13:36
ocx32libsrtp2-dev cannot be installed on ubuntu 16?13:41
Snoop__alright im going to bed now Thanks again EriC!13:44
hiyawould this https://www.amazon.in/HP-Workstation-Generation-Processor-Dedicated/dp/B07KK5DMFB work just fine with Ubuntu?13:45
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tnewmansalutations all!13:46
tnewmani'm running ubuntu server (headless) on my laptop, and i'm having some issues with keyboard shortcuts not working right with byobu13:47
tnewmanfor example, ctrl-F2 does not create a vertical split.  they keyboard shortcut is ignored.13:47
tnewmani presume that its because the terminal (?) is intercepting it before it gets to byobu13:48
EriC^Snoop__: no problem! gn13:50
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rapidwaveWhere do I find Android SDK within Java SKD?14:14
leftyfb!ot | rapidwave14:14
ubotturapidwave: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please register with NickServ (see /msg ubottu !register) and use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks!14:14
rapidwaveI'm trying to configure Eclipse, but can't find the right directory to give it14:14
rapidwaveOh okay14:15
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dante-asHi guys, do you know where is moved the /etc/init.d/rc in Ubuntu 18.04?14:39
baakohi guys i ran npm install and got cked files                  │ _W_14:43
baako          │15:42:09    baako | _ik14:43
baakoUnhandled rejection Error: EACCES: permission denied, mkdir14:44
bluezoneI need to run a python script as a kind of service. Something that automatically starts if the server is restarted and restarts if the scripts crashes, etc... Does anyone know how to accomplish this on a ubuntu vm ?14:50
pragmaticenigmabluezone: You might want to look into setting up as a cron job. This channel isn't really intended for those types of support questions. You may find better luck in #python, ##linux, or in a channel dedicated to programming/development work.14:52
bluezonepragmaticenigma: Was going to ask in ##linux but it says I'm banned lol14:53
pragmaticenigmabluezone: You can use !alis to search for channels14:53
pragmaticenigma!register | bluezone14:53
ubottubluezone: For information on registering your IRC nick, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat/Registration - For any further help, ask in #freenode.14:53
bluezoneI am registered afaik14:53
pragmaticenigmabluezone: Did you try accessing ##linux via #linux?14:54
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bluezonepragmaticenigma: Yeah #linux tells me I have to be invited14:54
leftyfbbluezone: ##linux14:54
pragmaticenigmabluezone: that's why you can't get into ##linux... close out all connections to IRC from your machine, and then go directly to ##linux when you restart the IRC application... give yourself about 5 to 10 minutes before restarting your IRC client14:55
bluezoneleftyfb: that one says I'm banned14:55
bluezoneHmm okay, it's possible they don't like irccloud connections either14:55
pragmaticenigmabluezone: They don't14:55
cryptodanyou got be a paying subscriber to irccloud for ##linux14:55
leftyfbbluezone: to answer your question: https://linuxconfig.org/how-to-create-systemd-service-unit-in-linux14:55
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pragmaticenigmabluezone: most of the channels here do not allow proxy origin connections14:56
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admin0hi .. in my ubuntu server, / is 100% full but du -sh /*  does not give me anything .. how do I check what is causing this ?15:08
lotuspsychjeadmin0: come join #ubuntu-server please15:08
admin0lotuspsychje, thanks .. did not knew :)15:08
whislocklotuspsychje: There's nothing wrong with server support here.15:16
lotuspsychjewhislock: feel free to discuss that in #ubuntu-discuss15:17
Th3MafiaI know 14.04 is really old but looking to install php5-snmp via apt, can someone direct me to changes I can make in /etc/apt to make that work?15:18
cryptodanTh3Mafia: you do realize that support for 14.04 ends this month15:19
Th3Mafiacryptodan: hmm, no something must be wrong somewhere else, I'll check. Thanks15:20
cryptodanso if its not in the repos then maybe the repo owners have started clearing out 14.04 supported files15:21
mr-robothi all any body here?15:35
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leftyfb!support | mr-robot15:38
ubottumr-robot: The official ubuntu support channel is #ubuntu. Also see http://ubuntu.com/support and http://ubuntuforums.org and http://askubuntu.com15:38
mr-robotso i can ask in here or what? leftyfb15:41
leftyfb!ask | mr-robot15:41
ubottumr-robot: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience15:41
mr-robotokay that was fast15:41
mr-roboti wanna know what is the best partition making for ubuntu to stop the lag i have 2 gb ram and a low performance pc15:43
mr-roboti use ubunti with the <win10>15:43
leftyfbmr-robot: different partition schemes are not going to give you better performance.15:43
mr-robotthis wasn't helpful15:47
mr-roboti will set up linux again i will delet this once15:47
Obuntuis someone here?15:48
compdocuse a different desktop for performance. ubuntu defaults to ext4, and theres nothing worng with that15:48
mr-robotwhat is the best swap area and this stuff15:48
lordcirth__Obuntu, yes, do you have a support question?15:48
leftyfbmr-robot: you asked a question and were given a valid answer. What part wasn't helpful? Do you have another question?15:48
compdocthere is no more swap partition15:48
lordcirth__mr-robot, What Ubuntu version and flavor? Installing Xubuntu may improve your performance.15:49
leftyfbmr-robot: you can add a larger swap, but that also isn't going to help you if your performance issue isn't due to memory or your hard drive is old/slow.15:49
compdocI like mate15:49
EriC^^mr-robot: is it actually using swap?15:50
mr-robotokay thanks so 4 gb for swap? and the rest for (ext4 / ) root?15:50
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lordcirth__mr-robot, 18.04 makes a swap file, not a swap partition, by default.15:50
lordcirth__Swap files are more flexible.15:51
EriC^^mr-robot: adding more swap won't necessarily solve anything unless you're using up the memory a lot15:51
leftyfbmr-robot: again, swap will NOT help you if your issue is not related to memory exhaustion or your hard drive is old and/or slow15:51
mr-robotyeah iam going to setup the 19.0415:51
leftyfbmr-robot: 19.04 is not released or supported yet15:51
mr-roboti do ERIC^^15:51
EriC^^mr-robot: maybe try to pinpoint the problem15:51
EriC^^mr-robot: what does "free -h" say about "available" when the lag occurs15:52
EriC^^also i think using swap would kinda be crappy, as it's so slow, maybe get more ram if you absolutely need it15:52
mr-robotokay thanks leftyfb i get it i will improve my pc :(15:52
EriC^^mr-robot: it might be a memory leak, too much cpu usage from some bug, etc hone down on the problem dont throw money/swap/etc at it15:53
mr-roboti don't even know what is free -h15:53
leftyfbmr-robot: you have yet to provide any further information on the specs of your machine beyond memory or the exactly symptoms. Slowness could be caused by several issues unrelated to memory15:53
EriC^^mr-robot: when the lag occurs, save an output of "free -h; ps aux | sort -k 3; sensors"15:54
EriC^^you'll need to install "lm-sensors" package via sudo apt-get install lm-sensors15:55
EriC^^also maybe run a smart test on the hdd, why not15:55
leftyfbmr-robot: 19.04 is not released or supported yet15:56
mr-robotokay eric thanks i'll do it15:56
mr-robotyeah it's beta15:56
leftyfbmr-robot: right, and unsupported here15:56
lordcirth__mr-robot, /join #ubuntu+115:56
leftyfbmr-robot: I would highly suggest you stick with LTS releases (18.04)15:56
mr-robotokay then i should reinstall it15:57
EriC^^if you absolutely are keen to test another version maybe 16.0415:57
mr-robotiam a fan i have all the ubuntu flavors  and this is the best\15:57
EriC^^mr-robot: i'd follow leftyfb 's instructions then ;)15:58
mr-robotokay thanks man15:58
EriC^^sure, np15:59
mr-robotmr-robot@f-sosiety:~$ free -h16:01
mr-robot              total        used        free      shared  buff/cache   available16:01
mr-robotMem:          1.9Gi       512Mi       732Mi       136Mi       693Mi       1.1Gi16:01
mr-robotSwap:         5.6Gi       657Mi       4.9Gi16:01
mr-robotiam not usinng any thing now just the hexchat16:03
mr-robotand konsole16:03
lordcirth__mr-robot, ok, and is it slow right now? If not, what makes it slow down?16:07
mr-robotwait i will open any thing and show you so you can know if it is swap proplem16:08
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phoneX-404<leftyfb> you were right thanks it's all about the ram16:22
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mr-robotthe funny thing is that when i try to open a program my system freezed16:23
brektyme what's the vm.swappiness setting?16:24
ghengisasscan anyone help me diagnose why my fuckin pussy stinks so bad after my lesbian girlfriend eats it?16:25
hggdhghengisass: please mind your language16:26
ghengisassof fuck oops16:26
ghengisasspussy lips16:26
brektymeyou dont' have a lot of memory, but for a lightweight system it should be ok for doing some basic web browsing16:26
tomreynbrektyme: vm.swappiness "is used to define how aggressive the kernel will swap memory pages.  Higher values will increase aggressiveness, lower values decrease the amount of swap. [..] The default value is 60." source: https://www.kernel.org/doc/Documentation/sysctl/vm.txt16:39
brektymetomreyn: sorry, I wasn't clear I was trying to help mr-robot, I know what vm.swappiness is16:44
tomreynbrektyme: oh you were just asking them what their's was set to, i see.16:45
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brektymeyeah, it sounds like the system is older, which would likely have slower rotational hard disks, which when you start swaping is going to drag your system down quickly16:49
brektymethe default of 60 is rather aggressive, and if they are just doing a single task at time, like browsing the web etc. setting it to something like 30 or 40 might help16:50
whislockSetting the swappiness value lower can actually result in worse performance.16:50
brektymeyeah if you're trying to do too much, if you're doing only a few tasks at a time less swapping would be better, esspeically on very old hardware16:51
whislockEven then, lowering the swappiness value can hurt you.16:52
deadromThinkpad T530 on dock with external displays, lid closed. Want to have boot message on 1st external display, not on laptop. BIOS only gives me "laptop lcd or VGA". displays are DP, should I still go for VGA since it is "external"? any settings in the system that take care of what happnes when closing the lid?16:52
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tomreyndeadrom: that's all hardware / firmware.16:54
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deadromtomreyn: gonna bug the Thinkpad forums then16:59
tiptophi@ll, is this correct?:  su - myusername .... crontab -e .... @reboot /home/myusername/myscript.sh .... for starting a script with with the userRights of the user myusername? (must i put the line "@re....sh" in a right order?)17:01
tomreyntiptop: that's all correct17:02
tomreyntiptop: but don't do su -, do sudo instead17:04
tiptoptomreyn: , but i thought.....sudo is to exicute with root rights, isnt it??17:05
tomreyn"sudo -u myusername -- crontab -e" or "sudo -u myusername -i" followed by "crontab -e", or even simpler, "sudo contab -u myusername -e"17:05
tomreyntiptop: not only, no.17:05
tiptoptomreyn: , i got it. :)17:06
tomreynquote from first sentence of the sudo man page: "DESCRIPTION: sudo allows a permitted user to execute a command as the superuser *or another user*, as specified by the security policy."17:07
tiptoptomreyn: must i put the line "@re....sh" in a right order?17:07
Zuverinktomreyn, NEVER su, ALWAYS sudo. Safety. Never run as root.17:08
tomreynZuverink: i assume you meant to tell tiptop17:08
Zuverinktomreyn, yup, sorry.17:08
tomreyntiptop: "@reboot" goes to the begining of a line, the script to execute is next, separated by whitespace.17:09
tiptopZuverink: , just "su - username" ....to change the user and change to homedir for this one.17:09
tiptoptomreyn: , yeah, i know....its a single line and it isnt important if it would be the first line of the crontab or the last one, right?17:11
nisankhindiado anyone else experienced this bug on 18.04 LTS .. even though root access or root user disabled , one can elavate the access to superuser17:14
tomreyntiptop: not unless you had variables affecting the environment set before or later, no.17:16
lotuspsychjenisankhindia: explain how you are doing that?17:16
Bashing-omnisankhindia: That is default for the first user that is created at install. That user has the ability to escalate privileges.17:16
tomreyntiptop: i'm sure all of this is also discussed in the man page, though.17:16
tiptoptomreyn: , thx. :)17:16
nisankhindiaall users access getting elavated to superuser access17:16
nisankhindiaeven though i have forced to disable or delete root password17:17
nisankhindiametasploit framework used17:18
nisankhindialet me show you using some snapshots17:18
lotuspsychjenisankhindia: if you find a security flaw in ubuntu, pelase report that to the #ubuntu-hardened guys17:19
nisankhindiapreparing for technical note for exploit-db17:20
tomreyneither way, not a support topic.17:23
qwebirc94353Hello, i need some help with playing HD videos17:33
lotuspsychjeqwebirc94353: explain whats going on please?17:34
lordcirth__qwebirc94353, what problem are you having?17:34
qwebirc94353I am using a different Linux Distro and i love to know whether Ubuntu supports HD videos in Amazon Prime and Netflix17:34
leftyfbyes, it does17:35
qwebirc94353Is it, i tried few distros and everything ended up in playing the Videos in SD format instead of HD17:36
qwebirc94353Will the live version of Ubuntu allow to test the Video format?17:36
leftyfbqwebirc94353: I'm playing a netflix show right now. Netflix doesn't tell you what format it's playing in, but it looks HD to me17:37
OerHeksmaybe chrome can .. https://www.linuxuprising.com/2018/07/how-to-stream-netflix-videos-at-1080p.html17:38
leftyfbyes, I'm using chrome17:38
qwebirc94353Ok, i usually get a HD icon in the bottom of Amazon Prime and the video will play in 1080p. But nowadays i am not able to stream in 1080p, instead it streams in 480P17:38
fleabeardhello friends, quick question about ssh. Is it safe to have the PubKeyAuthentication set to yes in my sshd_config? I have a few linux environments I'd like to give access to this server and always get the "Permission denied (publickey)" error when trying to ssh-copy-id. Thanks17:38
leftyfbAmazon Video looks fine to me as well17:38
qwebirc94353@leftyfb, do you see the HD icon in the bottom of the videos?17:39
leftyfbfleabeard: you need password auth first in order for ssh-copy-id to work17:39
fleabeardleftyfb, oh, okay. I have password auth disabled for security purposes.17:40
Bashing-om!info libdvd-pkg bionic17:40
ubottulibdvd-pkg (source: libdvd-pkg): DVD-Video playing library - installer. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 1.4.2-1-1 (bionic), package size 14 kB, installed size 79 kB17:40
fleabeardleftyfb, I guess my only option is to add this key manually through the one machine that does have ssh access to the server?17:40
leftyfbfleabeard: how do you expect to ssh in without having the public key uploaded if you have password auth disabled?17:40
fleabeardleftyfb, I'm new, so please don't expect me to explain my reasoning :)17:41
qwebirc94353The maximum GB the video uses nowadays is 1.17GB (Best) before it used to show 6.83 GB (Best)17:42
qwebirc94353I think it should give Ubuntu Budgie a try and see whether i am able to play HD videos17:42
OerHeksqwebirc94353, i think it is not the distro, but browser that makes the difference17:42
tiptopis this correct?: to start a script with different switches in different tmux-sessions as detached.... https://pastebin.com/QxwYdimQ17:43
OerHeksand 1.17 sounds like 720p17:43
qwebirc94353I use Firefox 66.0.2 (64-bit) and Chrome latest build17:43
qwebirc94353And my Kernel is 5.0.5-113.current17:44
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OerHeksqwebirc94353, nice, but that sounds not like a supported ubuntu ?17:44
qwebirc94353I am not using Ubuntu now, if Ubuntu has no issue with HD videos then i will switch from my current distro to Ubuntu Budgie17:45
qwebirc94353So before doing that i want to make sure it works without any flaw17:45
OerHeksqwebirc94353, no other option then to try17:46
lordcirth__ceibal, please don't spam17:46
qwebirc94353@OerHeks, then can i do that using Live verison?17:47
leftyfbqwebirc94353: try ubuntu and let us know if you have an issue. We're not going to troubleshoot an issue you don't currently have with ubuntu17:47
OerHeksqwebirc94353, that requires to update firefox, install multimedia codex,  maybe yes17:47
qwebirc94353Ok leftyfb, sorry about that. I thought first i get a confirmation and i install it in my PC17:48
OerHeksthe post with url says it can be done, with google-chrome17:48
qwebirc94353I will try and work with Ubutntu  this weekend and if i still face the issue i will come back again.17:49
qwebirc94353Thanks leftyfb and 0erHeks :)17:49
pragmaticenigmaqwebirc94353: There are too many factors to provide an accurate hypothetical assumption about the capabilities of your computer, internet connection speed, the software that the streaming provider has written and its ability to accurately to determine the capabilities of your machine17:49
tiptopqwebirc94353: another nice way to get it on would be an installation on a flash drive. it gives u the option to install progams and come back with ur settings.17:50
lordcirth__tiptop, full installs on USB tend to wear it out pretty quickly, though.17:51
pragmaticenigmatiptop: The problem with the flash drive method is it is restricted to the IO capabilities of the USB channel. It won't provide an accurate test result17:51
qwebirc94353Thank you all for the help, too bad i didn't try Ubuntu and come here with the question.17:51
tiptoppragmaticenigma: , affirmative.17:52
qwebirc94353Will be back by Saturday or Sunday and get the required help17:52
qwebirc94353Take care and thank you for the wonderful replies17:52
OerHeksqwebirc94353, have fun!17:53
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Sbur3How do I get as user read-write access to /dev/sde1 ?17:55
OerHeksSbur3, what filesystem is on that sde1?17:57
Sbur3OerHeks I think I put ext3 on it. If I would have an easier job with another type, tell me that17:58
leftyfbSbur3: mount it with the correct permissions17:59
lordcirth__Sbur3, point is, you don't give users access to block devices, you give them access to directories17:59
Sbur3leftyfb I already tried chown ...18:00
lordcirth__You configure /etc/fstab to mount it, and then you make them the owner of that directory, or perhaps a group18:00
lordcirth__Sbur3, and what didn't work?18:00
tiptopis this correct?: to start a script with different switches in different tmux-sessions as detached.... https://pastebin.com/QxwYdimQ18:00
leftyfbSbur3: chown'ing won't matter if it's not mounted with the correct permissions18:00
lordcirth__tiptop, well, does it work for you?18:01
Sbur3lordcirth__ it is a usb key at 2tb.18:01
Sbur3leftyfb it says that it is owned by root. the rest is read only18:02
leftyfbSbur3: right, not mounted properly18:03
Sbur3leftyfb That isn’t everything. I did a f3probe on it. f3probe said it wasn’t a 2tb. but gparted and thunar says it is18:04
OerHeks2 Tb .. i would change that to ext418:05
lordcirth__Sbur3, so, you bought a fake drive?18:05
tiptoplordcirth__: it seams to be right, but: is there no cramping with tiks (') nessasary (for the switches)? https://pastebin.com/QxwYdimQ18:05
lordcirth__Did you say this was a USB key, or is it an external hard drive?18:05
lordcirth__tiptop, you could use '--' to end tmux's flag parsing18:06
leftyfbSbur3: hold on. You mean to tell us you have a 2tb USB flash drive? You know, the ones that cost over $1000 USD?18:06
leftyfbSbur3: if you spent less than 1000, or even less than 500, it's not a 2TB flash drive. You got scammed.18:07
lordcirth__Except that f3probe flagged it as a fake18:07
Sbur3OerHeks lordcirth__ usb flash drive. bought out of germany. living in next door Belgium. he showed windows showing it at 2tb18:09
leftyfbSbur3: yep, it will show as 2tb, and keep overwriting data when it hits it's actual limit. It's not 2TB18:09
lordcirth__he quit18:10
tiptopSbur3:, https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=&sl=de&tl=en&u=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.heise.de%2Fct%2Fausgabe%2F2015-11-Gefaelschte-USB-Sticks-und-Speicherkarten-bei-Aliexpress-und-eBay-2622598.html18:13
Eickmeyertiptop: They quit.18:14
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woenxHey, is there a possible to a screenshot of a program with an open dialog?18:23
woenxI want to submit a screenshot for a bug report... but  I can't capture a dropdown menu18:24
woenxnevermind, I figured it out18:26
pragmaticenigmawoenx: Print Screen Key?18:27
woenxpragmaticenigma, no, the key does not work if a dropdown menu is open18:36
woenxand the capture tool in Ubuntu, which lets you delay for a few seconds the capture, only captures drop-down menus if the fullscreen is selected18:36
woenxit took me a while18:37
gilles_probleme avec Skype sur ubuntu18:38
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leftyfb!it | gilles_18:39
ubottugilles_: Vai su #ubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie! (per entrare, scrivi « /join #ubuntu-it » senza virgolette)18:39
leftyfb!fr | gilles_18:39
ubottugilles_: Nous sommes desoles mais ce canal est en anglais uniquement. Si vous avez besoin d'aide ou voulez discuter en français, veuillez taper /join #ubuntu-fr ou /join #ubuntu-qc. Merci.18:39
gilles_skype don t work over ubuntu18:39
gilles_unable to connect18:39
gilles_with good id and pwd,   why ?18:40
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lordcirth__gilles_, Didn't Microsoft drop support for Skype on Linux years ago?18:40
leftyfbgilles_: skype connects just fine for me18:41
elias_aSkype works perfectly for me too.18:42
leftyfbgilles_: what version of ubuntu?18:43
gilles_wich version  please ?18:43
marchesiniPerfect for me18:43
leftyfbgilles_: what version of ubuntu?18:43
leftyfbgilles_: which version of ubuntu are you running?18:43
leftyfb!fr | gilles_18:43
leftyfb gilles_: Nous sommes desoles mais ce canal est en anglais uniquement. Si vous avez besoin d'aide ou voulez discuter en français, veuillez taper /join #ubuntu-fr ou /join #ubuntu-qc. Merci.18:43
gilles_i try to install newerversion but it doesn(t work18:43
leftyfbgilles_: /join #ubuntu-fr18:44
gilles_I TRY to speak ENGLISh !!18:44
tiptoplordcirth__: , sry, "tiptop, you could use '--' to end tmux's flag parsing"....i dont unstand: what r u meaning with "flag parsing"?18:44
leftyfbgilles_: Sorry, but not well enough to help you. Please ask for help in #ubuntu-fr18:44
OerHeksgilles_, only the skype snap works18:45
lordcirth__tiptop, you are worried about '-a' being parsed as an option to tmux, right? Most commands will take a '--' to mean 'stop treating - as special after this'18:45
leftyfbOerHeks: but we also don't know what version of ubuntu they're running and if snaps will even work18:45
OerHeks4.3 is from the repos, should be deleted18:45
leftyfbthey didn't even bother joining the other channel :/18:46
tiptoplordcirth__: i noticed it at some switches e.g: "pwd -L"/"pwd --logical" , but: does "pwd --L" work, too??18:51
lordcirth__tiptop, --word means the arg 'word', -word means '-w -o -r -d'18:52
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jackodd question: does "apt-get install minecraft-installer" work for anyone?19:10
lordcirth__jack, what goes wrong for you?19:10
leftyfbjack: wrong question. Are you having an issue with it?19:10
jacklordcirth__:  https://www.minecraft.net/android-icon-192x192.png doesnt exist (anymore)19:11
leftyfbjack: minecraft-installer is not a package in ubuntu19:11
Bashing-om!info minecraft-installer bionic | jack19:11
ubottujack: Package minecraft-installer does not exist in bionic19:11
jackso it fails :/19:11
leftyfbjack: minecraft-installer is not a package in ubuntu19:11
jackweird, ok19:12
ioriajack, maybe you're referring to a ppa19:13
jackuh, no idea19:13
jacki'm using linuxmint ;)19:14
leftyfb!mint | jack19:15
ubottujack: The Ubuntu channels can only provide support for Ubuntu and its official flavors, since other distributions and derivatives have repository and software changes. So please use their dedicated support venues, for example: Linux Mint (#linuxmint-help on irc.spotchat.org), Kali Linux (#kali-linux), and LXLE (#lxle)19:15
jackis "bionic" the current ubuntu release?19:16
leftyfbjack: it's the latest LTS release of ubuntu19:16
jacki see19:16
leftyfbjack: 18.10 is the latest release with 19.04 being released in the coming weeks19:16
jackdownloading ubuntu-18.10-desktop-amd64.iso19:39
jacklet's see....might beat my mint :)19:40
Eickmeyer!discuss | jack19:41
ubottujack: Want to talk about Ubuntu, but don't have a support question? /join #ubuntu-discuss for non-support Ubuntu discussion, or try #ubuntu-offtopic for general chat. Thanks!19:41
jackmeow. ok.19:43
analogicalis 19.04 done?19:51
OerHeksApril 18, 201919:52
qwebirc93836Hi all19:52
qwebirc93836how come that the ubuntu software store offers the 'old' firefox version? Is there a way to get the new version quicker through the Ubuntu software store? Or should I manually install it from the mozilla website and update it that way? I really enjoy the ease of updating and installing an app through the software store19:54
OerHeksqwebirc93836, softwarecenter gives the latest only.19:55
OerHeks!info firefox bionic19:55
ubottufirefox (source: firefox): Safe and easy web browser from Mozilla. In component main, is optional. Version 66.0.2+build1-0ubuntu0.18.04.1 (bionic), package size 48862 kB, installed size 185461 kB19:55
leftyfbqwebirc93836: is there a particular feature you need that's available in 66.03 that isn't available in 66.2?19:55
OerHeksoh, 66.0.3 - April 9... it will soon hit the repos i guess19:56
ioriait's available via snap btw19:57
leftyfbqwebirc93836: just be patient19:58
qwebirc93836No but I am just curious19:59
d0tsun7Any tips on installing old (GeForce 7 Series) graphics drivers in Ubuntu 18.04?19:59
d0tsun7I've disabled nouvea but I cannot get past building the kernel module.19:59
qwebirc93836Let's say that a version would fix a vulnerability19:59
leftyfbqwebirc93836: 66.03 was released 2 days ago. Give it some time.19:59
qwebirc93836people who use the store are than still vulnerable for some days20:00
qwebirc93836I will20:00
leftyfbthen use chrome20:00
qwebirc93836@oerheks that is the latest version isnt it20:01
OerHeksqwebirc93836, yes, but .3 should be available too, in our repos, soon.20:03
qwebirc93836Alright thanks for the info. Is there any way that I could contribute to getting popular apps quicker into the official repo's?20:03
OerHeksqwebirc93836, for this mainstream application, you don't have too, if you find an other app, that could be upgraded, you could file an !SRU20:05
ubottuStable Release Update information is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/StableReleaseUpdates20:05
qwebirc93836Thanks! I will for Virtual Box.20:06
qwebirc93836Enjoy your day!20:06
Hassanhi guys i wanna backup my files from ubuntu dtive to another drive but i can't make any changes in there20:09
Hassansimpley: how can i make changes on a usb drive or c: drive20:10
Hassani tried chmod20:10
leftyfbHassan: linux does not have a "c: drive"20:10
leftyfbHassan: can you provide a little bit more detail/clarification?20:10
Hassanyeah that's the point i want to move a video for example to my "win"20:11
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leftyfbHassan: what version of ubuntu are you running right now?20:13
Hassan18.04 lts20:14
leftyfbHassan: ok, and you have a 2nd drive plugged in that you want to copy files from Ubuntu onto?20:14
OerHeks*if* that windows is windows 10, it uses probably exfat ? sudo fdisk -l # would tell20:14
lordcirth__exfat? I thought Windows always used NTFS20:15
Hassansudo chmod a+rwx /media/7assan/BackUp20:15
Hassanthat code is a trash20:15
leftyfbHassan: because is solves a problem you have yet to explain you have20:15
Hassanokay iam sorry i wasnt clear20:15
Hassanit's not another deive20:16
tiptopthere is a problem (@tmux), but i am sure the problems r the switches....the r not cramped with tiks (') or quotes (")....these r parts of switches. :/ https://pastebin.com/PGAgAvnX20:16
leftyfbHassan: Please explain in detail exactly what it is you're trying to accomplish and what your setup is with Ubuntu and Windows20:16
Hassanit's another partition20:16
Hassannow i have 3 partition's20:16
leftyfb!enter | Hassan20:17
ubottuHassan: Please try and keep as much of your info as possible on ONE line - easier to follow for everyone.20:17
Hassan1st is windows 2nd is BackUp 3rd is ubuntu20:17
leftyfbHassan: ok, so open up your "BackUp" partition in your file manager and drop and drop your files to it20:18
Hassaniam not this bad man!20:19
lordcirth__tiptop, it might be simpler to write the command you want to run in a script, then just have tmux run it. Less layers of escaping that way20:19
Hassancould not write to /media/7assan/BackUp20:20
leftyfbHassan: please pastebin or screenshot the exact error message20:20
deancGood evening. I have found the performance of vnc with vino to be extremely poor compared to using remote desktop on windows 7 prior to this. Any suggestions? Even over LAN it's slow and laggy/unresponsive20:20
leftyfbdeanc: try x11vnc for the server20:21
deancany reason you suggest it?20:21
leftyfbdeanc: also, VNC and RDC are completely different protocols on completely different operating systems. You cannot compare the two20:21
leftyfbdeanc: because you asked for a suggestion20:21
deancOf course I can compare them. One felt quick, one felt slow20:22
deancI'm looking for a similar user experience :)20:22
deancIs x11vnc known to have better performance?20:22
leftyfbdeanc: did you try it?20:22
tiptoplordcirth__: thats what i thought....but i thought cron call a sript and this another script, that would be a bad way....but u think that should be okay, shouldnt u??20:22
deancI am reading about it now leftyfb20:22
lordcirth__tiptop, nothing wrong with scripts calling scripts.20:23
Hassanill send it to you20:23
leftyfbdeanc: sudo apt install x11vnc && x11vnc -xkb -noxrecord -noxfixes -noxdamage -display :0 -auth /var/run/lightdm/root/:0 -usepw20:23
leftyfbHassan: do not send anything to me directly. Post links here20:23
tiptoplordcirth__: , okay, thx. :20:23
tiptoplordcirth__: , okay, thx. :^)20:23
Hassanokay wait20:23
deancleftyfb: i can add -rfbport 5901 to run on another port to what you pasrted?20:24
leftyfbI think you would do that with :1 if you have a 2nd xserver running. If you want just a different port for absolutely no benefit, then sure, use rfbport20:25
deancwell vino is running on 5900 already20:25
leftyfbdeanc: remove vino?20:25
leftyfbor at least disable it20:26
deancit took me about 30mins to get it working and i had to use another client for the timebeing20:26
deancoh my days leftyfb20:28
deancthis is like night and day difference20:28
Hassan<leftyfb>  https://ufile.io/cxcfr20:28
deancalso it works with stock osx screen sharing, that was easy :)20:29
leftyfbHassan: please use a site like imgur to just display a screenshot so we do not have to download anything.20:29
Hassanokay man20:30
Hassanbut if that will help iam using kubuntu20:30
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lordcirth__J, hi20:39
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Guest35509I am having trouble finding the correct search terms>20:40
Guest35509I am looking to setup a server for my friend and I to develop software on, where we an both have our own terminal environments and be logged in at the same time20:40
Guest35509Can anyone make some recommendations for what to research?20:41
leftyfbGuest35509: linux server20:41
leftyfb!ot | Guest3550920:41
ubottuGuest35509: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please register with NickServ (see /msg ubottu !register) and use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks!20:41
lordcirth__Guest35509, just make two non-root users, and install your stuff?20:41
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Guest35509Yes, sorry for not being clear, I am hoping to run this on an ubuntu desktop. LordC, could we both ssh into our users in that case?20:42
lordcirth__Guest35509, if you install openssh-server, yes.20:43
Guest35509Excellent, and is there a direct way to manage how the computing resources are divided?20:44
leftyfbGuest35509: you could with something like lxd containers20:44
leftyfbGuest35509: https://linuxcontainers.org/lxd/introduction/20:44
Guest35509Thank you as well, lefty I will compare your suggestion20:45
leftyfbGuest35509: But again, this is offtopic here. Please try #ubuntu-offtopic , #lxcontainers or ##linux20:45
Guest35509To clarify, if I keep questioning regarding a ubuntu desktop/server, would I be off topic?20:46
leftyfbGuest35509: yes, since you're not running ubuntu and need help with it.20:47
Guest35509Understood, sorry for the disturbance20:47
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deancleftyfb: almost in business now, just trying to configure systemd service. journalctl -n shows "xauth: unable to generate an authority filename". I'm using the exact config documented here (with my username fixed): https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VNC/Servers#Have_x11vnc_start_automatically_via_systemd_in_any_environment_.28Vivid.2B-.2920:49
deancIt's fllowed by some other errors: -auth guess: failed for display='unset'20:50
deancit stgill starts though, although ic ant connect :)20:50
deancthe process is runnig20:50
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leftyfbdeanc: you need that service to run as your user20:53
leftyfbdeanc: you might also need to set DISPLAY=:0; before the x11vnc command20:54
deanchow do i ensure the service runs as my user?20:56
deancleftyfb: i added -display :0 as in your example to the ExecStart line20:57
leftyfbdeanc: it's the "User=" part you add to your unit file.20:58
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deanchow does that look now leftyfb/20:59
leftyfbno User section20:59
deancSo9rry forgot to write in the other tab21:00
deancBut i have User=<myuser> in the [Service] section21:00
deancit works now, thank you!21:00
deanci'll read up a bit more on those flags so i understand what they are doing but this will be fine for now as this is only accessible over lan atm21:01
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evg1I have two terminals open, but in switching windows menu see only one, and can't get to the second with Alt+Tab.21:10
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evg1I used DOWN to get to next menu. Can I get all windows in first loop?21:12
tomreynevg1: you shoould rpobably tell which desktop environment you run on which ubuntu version21:12
evg119.04 gnome21:12
leftyfbevg1: not with the default DE in Ubuntu 18.04 and newer21:12
leftyfbevg1: 19.04 is not released or supported yet21:12
tomreyn!ubuntu+1 | evg121:12
ubottuevg1: Disco Dingo is the codename for Ubuntu 19.04 - Support only in #ubuntu+121:12
leftyfbtomreyn: that is a REALLY annoying bug though ... drives me nuts21:12
leftyfbtomreyn: though, the devs will just call it a feature21:13
tomreynleftyfb: use the alternatetab extension21:15
evg1can I not see /dev/loop  in df command?21:15
tomreynevg1: df reports the status of mounted file systems21:16
adrian_Hello, everyone, first time using this chat. I am having a problem with apt update. It has never given me any problems whatsoever, but now whenever I run sudo apt update I'm getting a 'File has unexpected size' error. 'Mirror sync in progress'. I can paste the relevant output if necessary but it seems to be for the bionic-updates universe Translation-en. Has anybody had this issue before and if so how did you go about solving21:16
leftyfbtomreyn: that has it's own bug with Dash to Dock. It displays applications in the alt-tab results that you have icons for in your dock even if they're not running21:17
tomreynadrian_: run this, it will return a web address you can post here: sudo /bin/true && cat &>/tmp/aptlog < <(sudo apt-get -qqy update 2>&1; apt-cache policy 2>&1; sudo apt-get -syV full-upgrade 2>&1;); nc termbin.com 9999 </tmp/aptlog; rm /tmp/aptlog21:17
leftyfb!ubuntu+1 | evg121:17
ubottuevg1: Disco Dingo is the codename for Ubuntu 19.04 - Support only in #ubuntu+121:17
evg1tomreyn: I know, but why ubuntu have so many?21:18
nshirelaptopthis is kind of a weird question but does anyone know where in memory the desktop background is stored or what it's referred to by?21:18
evg1I forgot I have 19.04 on laptop, desktop running 18.0421:18
nshirelaptopbecause every time I resume my laptop from sleep I get more and more artifacts on it21:19
tomreynevg1: it's how snap works. you can remove some snaps, then you'll see less mounted file systems backed by loop devices.21:19
leftyfbevg1: df -x squashfs21:19
adrian_tomreyn: This is the URL that came up. https://termbin.com/n5t521:20
evg1I'm not using snap, can I remove it compleatly? The snap packets have enormous size!21:21
evg1leftyfb: thanks, works21:21
leftyfbevg1: snap list # you are probably running some snaps that were installed by default21:22
evg1leftyfb: yes, gnome and its guts21:23
leftyfbtomreyn: also https://blogs.gnome.org/fmuellner/2018/10/11/the-future-of-alternatetab-and-why-you-need-not-worry/21:23
tomreynadrian_: hmm maybe it's just a temporary error, i guess i'd try again the other day. if this issue persists tomorrow, please notify #ubuntu-mirrors about it21:24
tomreynadrian_: you could probably work around it by using a mirror server which is actually located in uruguay (your current one is in brazil), namely https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+mirror/repo.cure.edu.uy-archive21:26
adrian_tomreyn: allright, thanks for the heads up, it is definitely an odd issue, at least for me.21:26
tomreynadrian_: such can happen, but it should not usually last for more than a couple minutes. this file has, however, been broken for 8 hours now.21:26
adrian_tomryen: How exactly do I use that particular mirror server? I apologize for the rather rudimentary question but I have never run into this issue before.21:28
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tomreynadrian_: no worries, it's not something you need to do commonly. the easiest way to switch to a different mirror server temporarily is actually a different one: press alt-f2 and type "software-properties-gtk".21:33
tomreynadrian_: there will be a drop-down-box for "Download from". Just pick a different country that is still close to you, there.21:33
adrian_tomreyn: Any way to do this from the shell? alt-f2 does nothing for me since I am running ubuntu but using i3 for the desktop.21:34
tomreynadrian_: just type    software-properties-gtk     on the shell21:34
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adrian_tomreyn: I tried running apt update again, and it works fine now for no reason at all.21:38
adrian_tomreyn: Thanks for your help though, really appreciate it!21:39
tomreynadrian_: so it was really just a temporary issue on the mirror server, i guess. you're welcome!21:39
adrian_tomreyn: Seems like it, I got scared for a bit haha. I was deploying a couple of vagrant boxes and then I tried updating one of them and got the error. Returned to my local machine and the same error came up. For some reason there is not a lot of answers online regarding this issue. But, yes it seems it was temporary as you said.21:43
tomreynadrian_: as the error message indicates, such can happen when you check / your computer checks for updated packages while the ubuntu mirror server you have configured is  currently receiving those updates itself.21:45
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cstk421have an odd issue i think.  So Ubuntu server installed as a vm in vmware workstation player or the integrated one from the microsoft store will not allow me to ssh to the server via localhost if im connected to a vpn.  thoughts ?22:07
cstk421using shared networking of the host by the way22:08
raverDoes the connection aborts if it existed before the VPN connection was established?22:10
cstk421its a full tunnel not split22:12
jackhelp, please22:12
jackThe requested URL /ubuntu/releases/disco/ubuntu-19.04-beta-desktop-i386.iso was not found on this server.22:12
cstk421just read i can do port forwarding in the vmware config i guess that may work. have to try when i get home.  i dont understand how ssh to localhost would be caught by the vpn network adapter22:13
jackhow can i get that?22:13
Bashing-omjack: ubuntu dropped 32 bit images. They nno longer exist.22:14
raverYou could create a virtual network card and connect it to the owner network again I guess22:15
jackBashing-om: omg, ok22:15
raverVirtual Network card22:15
OerHeksjack,  you made that url up, or followed an wild blog?22:15
cstk421i have to have the vm be able to access the vpn network as well22:15
raverAh ok22:16
cstk421i could have just used bridged networking to get around it but i lose the vpn access from the vm22:16
Bashing-omjack: Wjile xubuntu still had a 32 bit image - they too will drop the support.22:16
cstk421i found a few articles now regarding port forwarding with vmware conf changes.  i hope this will work22:16
raverI'm not very familiar With networking stuff sorry22:17
jackOerHeks: just took an amd64 url, replaced with i38622:17
cstk421raver: np i appreciate you looking22:17
jackneed a 32bit one for my vbox ;)22:18
raverWhat about creating a second Network card in the vm?22:18
cstk421raver: not sure havent considered that guess i can try in a bit if the port forward doesnt work22:18
OerHeksget the 16.04 i386 or look at this list http://torrent.ubuntu.com:6969/22:19
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jackgetting kubuntu-18.04.2-desktop-i386.iso :D22:28
jackOerHeks: you own!22:29
OerHekshave fun!22:29
jacki will :)22:29
dStructhey all, I'm trying to install 18 server on to a Dell PowerEdge server and the installer is getting stuck on Applying Network Config (50%), however on another non-Dell server my USB drive installs just fine, am I missing something here?  Google hasn't provided anything definitive22:32
tomreyn!yy.mm | dStruct22:32
ubottudStruct: Ubuntu version numbers are: YY.MM (YY=release year,MM=release month). Each year sees two releases, so just specifying YY is imprecise. See also https://www.ubuntu.com/about/release-cycle22:32
dStruct18.04 LTS the latest version22:33
tomreynand you're using the default server installer?22:34
dStructtomreyn: that is correct, I downloaded it, check the iso, used the startup disc creator to make the USB, installed a non-dell server just fine, however this server is just getting stuck with no way to bypass the error22:34
dStructI get to the Network connections screen, it shows my adapters, I leave everything alone and default to DHCP, when I hit the Done button at the bottom I get Applying Network Config 50% and the progress bar sticks there and then times out with a red message toward the bottom of the screen22:35
dStructfwiw, 16.04 LTS was installed on this server and running just fine, I'm replacing the RAID and starting fresh22:37
tomreyndStruct: what does the message say?22:38
dStructtomreyn: in red, "Network configuration timed out; please verify your settings."22:38
tomreynhmm, sounds like a dhcp issue then. but i understand you're saying it works with the same server and uubntu 16.0422:39
dStructtomreyn: I am plugged into a DHCP available port on the network, so it should have no trouble requesting a DHCP address, the adapter works just fine, I even disabled my second adapter in BIOS hoping it was maybe confusing the installer, no change22:39
dStructtomreyn: everything works perfect, no issues with the server, the install just will go past this error22:39
Quozli've seen that happen when the network card driver i was relying on was dropped from the kernel and was then available as source instead.  it sucked.  i verified it by booting into rescue mode with both media, and using dmesg and lsmod to identify the driver selected.22:39
Quozlhowever, i have not seen it with the 16.04 to 18.04 transition.22:40
dStructI would be shocked if Ubuntu dropped support for a Dell PowerEdge 1950's NIC adapter22:40
Quozli'd be pleasantly surprised.  more billable time.  yay.22:40
tomreyndStruct: if you switch to a different tty you can get a shell there by pressing enter and then view the logs at /var/log/installer22:40
dStructNIC is a Broadcom NetXtreme II BCM5708 gig-e adapter22:41
dStructtomreyn: just did22:41
tomreynbut there's no more info to be found there?22:41
dStructtomreyn: ok now I have something, running WaitForDefaultRouteTask(30) for stage timeout22:42
dStructtomreyn: next message after that is timeout ended22:42
tomreynso do you have an uncommon network configuration there such as a default gateway which is outside of the sibnet?22:42
Quozlbcm5708 is in the kernel.  module bnx2.22:42
dStructtomreyn: I'm literally running Ubuntu 18.04 LTS on this laptop, connected to the same network/switch/router/firewall everything22:43
dStructdesktop though..22:43
tomreynyes, that's somewhat different22:44
tomreynso, is the default gateway within your subnet, or one which requires a pointopoint like configuration to be used?22:44
dStructI mean it should work even if there is no network cable22:44
Quozlthere's bnx2 firmware files in /lib/firmware, so i'd also check dmesg of 16.04 against 18.04 to see what versions were reported.  the nic is it's own little system.22:45
dStructit's just a standard network, gw is .1 ip is 100-254 ish22:45
tomreynok, can you file a bug report then?22:45
Quozlanother thing i'd do is compare the problem between cold and warm boot.  some drivers assume the bios will leave the card in a specific state.22:45
tomreyndStruct: i also have a likely workaround for you, but the bug report would surely be helpful.22:46
dStructQuozl: that's a good idea, Dell servers are tricky with warm and cold boot stuff22:46
dStructtomreyn: I am all ears22:46
tomreyndStruct: you can use the alternate server installer, which is based on the classic debian installer.22:46
dStructtomreyn: that sounds like a plan to me22:47
tomreynbut it will probbaly go away sooner or later, so ... you may want to contribute to getting this fixed in the main installer.22:47
dStructtomreyn: oh I very much support Ubuntu, I run it on just about everything, and it's basically my goto OS of choice for just about everything, so I am happy to contribute to helping fix any possibly driver issues22:48
dStructhow do I trigger the alt installer, I do not get any kind of menu on boot up?22:48
tomreynit's a separate iso, available from ubuntu.com22:49
tomreyn"Use the traditional installer"22:49
dStructoh here we go, dmesg shows, bnx2: Can't load firmware file "bnx2/bnx2-mips-06-6.2.3.fw that explains it22:50
Quozlwell, that's present on an installed 18.04 system.22:50
Quozld8d623ae5934109ccfe8c041a1cf88ae is the md5sum i've got.  but why isn't it present on your installer image?  that's interesting.22:51
dStructI wonder if I could simply drop it in without downloading the alt installer?22:52
Quozlwhic of the 18.04 installer images have you used, and what version of linux-firmware package is installed?  (dpkg-query -W linux-firmware)22:52
dStructQuozl: straight off the website a couple hours ago, standard 64-bit server image22:52
Quozlyou might try that.  rmmod bnx2, drop the file, modprobe bnx222:52
tomreynbug 175126622:52
ubottubug 1751266 in linux-firmware (Ubuntu Bionic) "Missing firmware in linux-image-4.15.0-10-generic" [High,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/175126622:52
dStructQuozl: where might I place the fw file?22:53
Quozl /lib/firmware/bnx2/bnx2-mips-06-6.2.3.fw22:53
dStructQuozl: thank you :D22:53
OerHekshmm, bionic gives a daily live .. http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-server/bionic/daily-live/22:53
dStructtomreyn: so I take the fix hasn't made it in yet?22:53
Quozli'd say it probably hasn't made it to the iso, unless you go for a daily live iso.22:53
OerHeksworth trying..22:54
Quozlbut on the other hand, the fix should have been in last year.22:54
dStructQuozl: should /lib/firmware/ exist on the booted installer tty?22:54
tomreyndStruct: the bug report sas "fix released". i am still reading to understand which ubuntu 18.04 server installer it is available in, though. are you using 18.04.2? or .0? or .1? or .1.0?22:54
QuozldStruct: ah, good point, maybe it's the initramfs.22:54
dStructtomreyn: the latest off the website from a few hours ago22:55
jackgetting kubuntu-18.04.2-desktop-i386.iso from 37 peers, 739 kb/s - life is sweet22:55
tomreyndStruct: okay that'll be 18.04.2 then22:55
dStructfrom ubuntu.com/download/server22:55
dStructthe image itself checks good, but like we found, it's probably missing the fw, I think the easiest option would be the daily, but it would be interesting to know if the alt installer has the fw, probably not22:57
Quozli would imagine the alt installer would be built from the same kernel packages.22:57
dStructQuozl: as would I22:57
dStructok round two coming up..  http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-server/bionic/daily-live/current/bionic-live-server-amd64.iso22:57
tomreynbug 1763823 is what i meant to link to actually22:58
ubottubug 1763823 in linux-firmware (Ubuntu Xenial) "Update firmware for 18.04 hwe kernel" [Medium,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/176382322:58
Quozlgood luck.  i'm off to exercise.22:58
dStructQuozl: thank you for the help22:58
blebtrying to play sound through my hdmi port22:58
jack727 kb/s22:59
jackrules :D22:59
tomreynwell both bug reports.22:59
blebthe volume control dialog under "configuration" says "Digital Stereo (HDMI) Output (unplugged)"22:59
blebthey all say unplugged22:59
blebbut im viewing this through a tv connected over hdmi so clearly it isn't unplugged23:00
blebhow might i fix this?23:00
dStructtomreyn, OerHeks: thank you guys for the help with this, I really appreciate it, I'll let you know how the daily works out23:00
tomreynbleb: which ubuntu release is this, which graphics card? U_VER ; U_GFX23:01
tomreynnc termbin.com 9999 < <(lsb_release -ds;cat /proc/{version,cmdline};) ; lspci -knn | grep -A3 VGA | nc termbin.com 999923:01
* dStruct loves termbin23:01
tomreynbleb: ^ this rather than 'UVER+UGFX', those are just my shorthands.23:01
jackOerHeks: btw, who creates those unofficial isos?23:02
tomreyndStruct: you're welcome.23:02
jack710kb/s...damn, i love torrents23:03
blebtomreyn: it's 18.04, intel graphics23:07
OerHeksjack, we have no unofficial images.23:07
tomreyn!hwe | bleb23:08
ubottubleb: The Ubuntu LTS enablement stacks provide newer kernel and X support for existing LTS releases, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/LTSEnablementStack23:08
OerHeksKubuntu is an official flavor, Mark Shuttleworth was a KDE patron before he started Ubuntu23:08
tomreynbleb: HWE may help you getting this to work, newer graphics drivers are needed.23:09
jackOerHeks: but i386 must be unofficial :)23:10
OerHeksNo, there are differences between flavors23:11
jacksince there is no official 32bit image for 18.1023:11
ubottuRecognized Ubuntu flavors build on Ubuntu and provide a different user experience out of the box. They are supported both in #ubuntu and in their flavor channel. For a list, see https://www.ubuntu.com/download/ubuntu-flavours23:11
tomreynjack: it is the standard ubuntu desktop installer which no longer provides i386 images, other (fully supported) flavors still do.23:13
jackwow, ok23:14
tomreynthey'll surely drop it sooner or later, too, though.23:14
jackso what :) i'm happy for now23:15
jackno need for bios twitching...perfect23:15
blebtomreyn: it worked a few days ago then today the sound is not working23:16
blebtomreyn: http://ix.io/1Dgb23:17
tomreyndStruct: i'm out for the night, good luck. here's yet another suggestion in case what you have so far won't work: temporarily attach an additional NIC to the server, which does not require extra firmware. boot the standard server installer, switch to tty, then make sure you're online via the other NIC and do: sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get install linux-firmware; sudo snap refresh subiquity  # then carry out the installation23:19
blebtomreyn: does this output suggest i'm not already using HWE?23:19
blebactually sudo apt-get install --install-recommends linux-generic-hwe-18.04 xserver-xorg-hwe-18.04 says its already installed so23:21
tomreynbleb: yes, it suggests you are using the hwe kernel. you should also be using the hwe X version23:21
dStructtomreyn: you're not going to believe this23:22
dStructtomreyn: the daily didn't include the firmware..23:22
tomreyndStruct: well, that's possible.23:22
dStructtomreyn: I will try your suggestion though, that should work23:22
tomreynbleb: oh you got both the kernel and X then23:23
tomreyndStruct: it should work for installing, i don'tknow whether it will work after your reboot23:23
tomreynbleb / dStruct: sorry, got to get some sleep, ttyl23:24
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dStructI wonder if I can just disable the ethernet adapter in the BIOS all together, once it's installed I can get the firmware on to it23:30
* skatetensor salutes23:44
Snoop_Need help installing drivers for Touchscreen, Sound, Bluetooth and I think the Display23:47
dStructSnoop_: it sounds like you have some uncommon hardware, are you sure drivers are available?23:53
Snoop_im not sure, all i know is that some stuff isnt working and i dont know how to install drivers with ubuntu23:54
dStructSnoop_: dmesg may show you any errors relating to hardware missing drivers or issues, chances are you have a driver already for your hardware, you may just have to configure something23:56
dStructSnoop_: what type of laptop?23:56
Snoop_its a Nuvision DUO 1023:57
Snoop_Model: TM101W625L23:57
dStructSnoop_: https://www.techradar.com/how-to/computing/how-to-install-ubuntu-onto-a-windows-tablet-131948923:58

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