[01:51] <xubuntu73w> Hi, I am installing xubuntu on a Mac mini.
[01:52] <xubuntu73w> It is doing this wired thing where it is using only the center portion of the screen.
[01:52] <xubuntu73w> The UK does not stretch full screen
[01:52] <xubuntu73w> *ui
[01:53] <xubuntu73w> Has anyone seen this problem?
[01:53] <Eickmeyer> xubuntu73w: That likely has something to do with your video chipset. If it's nVidia, it's a common problem on macs.
[01:54] <Eickmeyer> Other than that, there are some tweaks that need to happen in my experience to get the OS to make full use of the mac, but that varies model to model.
[01:54] <xubuntu73w> I see.
[01:55] <xubuntu73w> Actually xubuntu 16.04 was okay.
[01:55] <xubuntu73w> But my USB got corrupted somehow and thought I might want to try 18
[01:57] <Eickmeyer> Considering 16.04 is nearing end-of-life this month, that was probably a good idea. However, as with any mac, it probably requires a little tweaking to get it to work properly.
[01:57] <Eickmeyer> Sadly, it's been a long time, so I don't quite know what resources to give you.
[01:57] <xubuntu73w> Right
[01:57] <xubuntu73w> I will try to look around some more.
[01:58] <Eickmeyer> Okay. Best of luck, and the #ubuntu IRC room is also a resource for you.
[01:58] <Eickmeyer> It's much busier than here, and supports #xubuntu equally.
[02:01] <xubuntu73w> Cool
[02:02] <xubuntu73w> Out for now
[02:02] <xubuntu73w> exit
[05:04] <OldSwabbie> Every Time I login, I have to report a crash.  I have found this file named _sbin_plymouthd.crash. My version is 18.04 and from an Answer from Askubuntu - suggested for this version to do an apt-get install plymouth-x11
[05:04] <OldSwabbie> I have tried this and received this message - unable to locate ....
[05:09] <OldSwabbie> Other suggestion were to - chown or chmod - both to location /lib/plymouth  ..  Would this be the proper location of this program ?
[05:14] <diogenes_> OldSwabbie, run: sudo apt update then apt search plymouth
[05:18] <krytarik> OldSwabbie: Do you usually get the boot animation Plymouth provides or not?
[05:18] <OldSwabbie> I have run your suggested update previously.  Would I still need to execute it again for this process and always prior to any install ?
[05:18] <diogenes_> no
[05:20] <OldSwabbie> Since my original install, the answer would be, No.  This issue has occurred two normal independent update then upgrades since the install ....
[05:33] <OldSwabbie> libplymouth4/bionic-updates,now 0.9.3-1ubuntu7.18.04.1 amd64 [installed]
[05:33] <OldSwabbie>   graphical boot animation and logger - shared libraries
[05:33] <OldSwabbie> plymouth/bionic-updates,now 0.9.3-1ubuntu7.18.04.1 amd64 [installed]
[05:33] <OldSwabbie>   boot animation, logger and I/O multiplexer
[05:33] <OldSwabbie> These showed up among others listing ....
[05:35] <OldSwabbie> plymouth-label/bionic-updates,now 0.9.3-1ubuntu7.18.04.1 amd64 [installed]
[05:35] <OldSwabbie>   boot animation, logger and I/O multiplexer - label control
[05:35] <OldSwabbie> This additional and three (3) others .....
[05:36] <diogenes_> scroll thru that list and look for plymouth-x11
[05:38] <OldSwabbie> plymouth-x11/bionic-updates 0.9.3-1ubuntu7.18.04.1 amd64
[05:38] <OldSwabbie>   boot animation, logger and I/O multiplexer - X11 renderer
[05:38] <OldSwabbie> This showed up as the last item that was listed ...
[05:40] <diogenes_> sudo apt install plymouth-x11
[05:40] <OldSwabbie> BTW, diogenes - Thanks for the assistance ! ....
[05:40] <diogenes_> no problem
[05:43] <OldSwabbie> Here is a partial results :  (Reading database ... 178290 files and directories currently installed.)
[05:43] <OldSwabbie> Preparing to unpack .../plymouth-x11_0.9.3-1ubuntu7.18.04.1_amd64.deb ...
[05:43] <OldSwabbie> Unpacking plymouth-x11 (0.9.3-1ubuntu7.18.04.1) ...
[05:43] <OldSwabbie> Setting up plymouth-x11 (0.9.3-1ubuntu7.18.04.1) ...
[05:43] <OldSwabbie> update-initramfs: deferring update (trigger activated)
[05:43] <OldSwabbie> Processing triggers for initramfs-tools (0.130ubuntu3.7) ...
[05:44] <diogenes_> !pastebin | OldSwabbie
[05:45] <OldSwabbie> I would thing the proof would be in doing a Restart and log back in to see if this is now corrected ....
[05:46] <OldSwabbie> Thanks for the instruction for this Newbie of the IRC ....
[05:46] <diogenes_> ok reboot
[05:57] <OldSwabbie> OldSwabbie is back .....
[05:59] <OldSwabbie> It looks like I have some more work to do.  I received another report button to press and the named file was only slightly different _sbin_plymouthd.0.crash  ......
[06:01] <diogenes_> you could try: sudo systemctl disable plymouthd
[06:01] <diogenes_> the; sudo update-initramfs -u
[06:02] <diogenes_> reboot
[06:07] <OldSwabbie> Got it and will try even though it is 0200 in Ohio and will also update you as the results per execution ...
[06:08] <diogenes_> maybe first you need a nap?
[06:10] <OldSwabbie> I need more than a nap especially when you have Sleep Apnea ....  good comment he, he ....
[06:13] <OldSwabbie> first command results = plymouthd.service does not exist  ....   This could be the issue due to my other updates along with upgrade and that it wasn't there and now something is needing this service ....
[06:14] <diogenes_> sudo apt install plymouth
[06:17] <OldSwabbie> results = plymouth is already the newest version (0.9.3-lubuntu7.18.04.1).  0 upgraded,  0 newly installed,  0 to remove and 15 not upgraded.  ....
[06:19] <diogenes_> did you install the system or upgraded?
[06:21] <OldSwabbie> I installed fresh from DVD from Linux Mag more than four (4) months ago and did not receive this issue until I had done a more recent, like say two (2) weeks ago a matched set of sudo apt update and then upgrade ...
[06:24] <diogenes_> then it might be a bug, you could try: sudo apt purge plymouth
[06:24] <diogenes_> reboot
[06:27] <OldSwabbie> Ok !  see you on the other side .....
[06:31] <OldSwabbie> Received a =  dpkg : Warning :
[06:33] <OldSwabbie> While removing lightdm, directory ' var/lib/lightdm-data ' not empt so not removed  ....
[06:33] <OldSwabbie> Should this be a worry ? ? ...
[06:34] <diogenes_> lightdm should not be involved
[06:35] <diogenes_> pastebin the entire output
[06:35] <diogenes_> before hitting Y
[06:37] <OldSwabbie> But that was the Warning.  Yes was already entered and this was the resultant output ....  First time for pastebin ...
[06:39] <krytarik> Well, that will have left you without a display manager, i.e. login screen.
[06:41] <OldSwabbie> still want a pastebin or should I recover or reinstall lightdm ?
[06:42] <diogenes_> OldSwabbie, something is very wrong with yoursystem.
[06:42] <diogenes_> first you got plymouth installed but no plymouthd service
[06:42] <diogenes_> then you went ahead to purge it but it hooked up the lightdm
[06:42] <OldSwabbie> Yeah,  I guessed at that after the report button showed-up ....
[06:44] <diogenes_> OldSwabbie, run this: apt list --installed | grep lightdm
[06:46] <OldSwabbie> you got it ... and to use pastebin is this done seperately or with imgur,  this is my confusion at this point ....
[06:46] <diogenes_> !pastebin
[06:47] <diogenes_> you open https://paste.ubuntu.com
[06:47] <diogenes_> paste the output and share the link
[06:52] <OldSwabbie> Here is the address -- https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/4nF6BM93sr/  .....
[06:52] <OldSwabbie> Thanks for the patience ....
[06:53] <OldSwabbie> Would you still want the purge listed information ? ?
[06:53] <diogenes_> no problem
[06:53] <diogenes_> yes
[06:54] <diogenes_> and run: sudo apt install lightdm
[06:54] <OldSwabbie> Got it !  ....
[07:00] <OldSwabbie> https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/vt2Mvhvgb5/  ....
[07:01] <diogenes_> OMG
[07:01] <OldSwabbie> What ! ? ?
[07:02] <OldSwabbie> Holding on install at this time,  just-in-case .....
[07:02] <diogenes_> that's insane amount of important packages that have been removed, run: sudo apt install light-locker lightdm xubuntu-artwork xubuntu-core xubuntu-default-settings xubuntu-desktop
[07:03] <diogenes_> and don't reboot untill those all finish installing
[07:03] <OldSwabbie> Then Thanks !  for that OMG .....
[07:04] <OldSwabbie> I figure that this may take a while,  from your comment of experience .....
[07:05] <diogenes_> normally when you purge plymouth it should only remove its related packages and not touching your other system packages but this one was unexpected, no clue what is that and why did it remove even lightdm, very strange and weird.
[07:06] <krytarik> diogenes_: https://packages.ubuntu.com/bionic/lightdm - because lightdm depends on plymouth.. for some reason.
[07:07] <diogenes_> krytarik, oh that's wrong in my opinion, i wasn't aware of that because i'm using a slightly different distro now but well, that's sad they did hook it up to lightdm.
[07:08] <krytarik> diogenes_: I went back till Trusty on packages.u.c and it's there already too.
[07:10] <OldSwabbie> setting to run this lengthy install,  any other info prior to execution ?  I'm not sure which Mag was the DVD was from since I do have Linux Format and Linux Pro also and I would have to check which to inform you it actually came from for your info possible needs .....
[07:10] <diogenes_> krytarik, not on debian strectch: https://packages.debian.org/stretch/lightdm
[07:10] <diogenes_> stretch*
[07:13] <diogenes_> OldSwabbie, if you continue having this issue AND if it's your only working machine and you have no others, then i'd strongly recommend you BEFORE rebooting, download the latest LTS xubununtu iso, write it to a flashdrive or burn it to a DVD and just have it nearby in case you gonna end up with a broken system so you have a media to re-install it from.
[07:16] <OldSwabbie> Understood and this is why I had created this install with a separate mountable -- slash Home directory and I have not backedup as yet.  So this laptop will be left on till your suggestion and backed up home, then  .....
[07:19] <diogenes_> if it has a separate /home then it's ok and you still need to have an installation media with you and then all is fine, now i'm gonna be offline for a short while, there is plenty people here that could help you further on, good luck.
[07:23] <OldSwabbie> Since it is almost 0330 and I need my beauty rest,  I'm going to set it run the install and then download the LTS iso  ...   Here I go and thanks to all your support .....
[07:53] <OldSwabbie> The full line of installed ran only about > 8 minutes <, and I have captured the text from execution of the install command.  ....  I then captured the results after saying Yes ....  I will create two new pastebin if requested.  I need to get some sleep and I will leave the system on and running ....
[07:56] <OldSwabbie> Here is the pastebin for prior to executing the line of Installed  --  https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/Jp3cmTWff8/
[07:57] <diogenes_> nice
[07:57] <diogenes_> any errors?
[07:59] <OldSwabbie> AND here is the text of the Command AFTER execution  --  https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/DDHg45d7J3/
[08:00] <diogenes_> you should be fine, now run: sudo apt upgrade
[08:01] <diogenes_> let's make sure u got the latest upgrades
[08:03] <OldSwabbie> Here is the text results Pastebin for this Upgrade command  --  https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/tKqJWkP6yW/  .....
[08:04] <OldSwabbie> My wife will be up in about two (2) hours for her Work .....
[08:05] <diogenes_> ok
[08:05] <diogenes_> now you gonna have to reboot
[08:05] <diogenes_> and it should be ok
[08:06] <OldSwabbie> I have Not executed the Upgrade and I have not downloaded the ISO ....  I a bit light in my head needing rest, at this time and need to sleep and leave this system running .....
[08:08] <diogenes_> that's the best idea i suggested at the beginnjng.
[08:09] <OldSwabbie> I will now say Yes and it should not be long for it to execute,  I guess.  I see that we are on the same page as to leaving the system up and running and the Human to obtain rest .....
[08:14] <OldSwabbie> Had a slight interruption with my Wireless connection while at about 70% of the progress bar and then it reconnected and then completed....  Making a final pastebin for this info .....
[08:15] <diogenes_> ok
[08:18] <OldSwabbie> Here is the resultant Pastebin for the Upgrade processing -- FYI  .... --  https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/6d48RB4kJP/  ....
[08:20] <diogenes_> looks good
[08:20] <OldSwabbie> I have say that this is my first time to use IRC for support of anything and I have to say even though I am becoming a bit hazy ...  This has been a Positive experience and I again Thank You !
[08:21] <diogenes_> you can now rest with no worries
[08:21] <diogenes_> you're welcome.
[08:22] <OldSwabbie> Thanks !  I am now going to leave everything as planned and pickup in my AM after hopefully at least six (6) hours of rest considering I have Sleep Apnea .....  Your assurance is appreciated ! ....
[08:23] <diogenes_> ok sleep well!
[08:24] <OldSwabbie> I will say Good Morning for where ever you are and also Good Night ......
[11:22] <ochosi> and gtk is at fault (sort of) for not ensuring the tooltips are shown within the display constraint7
[11:23] <ochosi> woops
[21:33] <Swizzy> Hey everybody I am curious about one thing in particular. I am running Xubuntu LTS 18.04 on my Intel NUC. This small computer only has a combined headphone/Microphone jack. Generally speaking will Xubuntu support adapters that split the signal into mic/headphone jack?
[21:33] <Swizzy> IF NOT, what about usb adapters that provide Headphone/mic jack? (though I would much prefer not to use a usb port for that)
[21:42] <gnrp> Swizzy: I would have thought this is already supported?
[21:42] <gnrp> I am on a Thinkpad X1 Carbon here and I think I used that functionality already
[21:43] <Swizzy> Okay that's good to hear. Just wanting to make sure before I purchase one
[21:45] <gnrp> don't take my word for granted, though!
[21:45] <gnrp> I have no way to test it right now, but I have already been using that, pretty sure
[21:45] <Swizzy> Because if I remember correctly, using a headphone that has mic/headphone (like the iphone headset) didnt seem to work on my thinkpad some time ago
[21:46] <gnrp> actually, let me check
[21:47] <gnrp> yes, works. Tested with Bose something 200 headphones (in-ear noise canceling) and a 6th Thinkpad X1 Carbon
[21:47] <Swizzy> ah sweet, thanks !
[21:47] <Swizzy> Will see if anyone else has an opinion on the matter, but this does push me towards actually selling my desktop computer and only using the nuc
[21:48] <gnrp> if you want that, is another question.... ;)
[21:49] <gnrp> I personally would never trade my desktop for a nuc or anything similar
[21:49] <Swizzy> I mean here is the deal, it has a decent two core Processor with hyperthreading
[21:49] <Swizzy> 8GB of RAM and an m.2 ssd
[21:50] <gnrp> I mean, the big benefit of a desktop for me is that I can upgrade it (GPU, RAM, CPU, infinite HDDs/SSDs) and that I can replace parts if something break
[21:50] <gnrp> s
[21:50] <Swizzy> almost no energy consumption. It does have its appeal to me
[21:50] <gnrp> if you have space constraints, it totally makes sense
[21:51] <Swizzy> Also not being able to play classic wow when it comes out will save me from losing all my free time >:>
[21:51] <gnrp> hehe, that I can understand. ;)
[21:52] <gnrp> on the other hand, are you sure it won't run on modern integrated GPU? It is 14 years old, after all
[21:52] <Swizzy> They are releasing an upgraded version
[21:53] <Swizzy> Its not running on the old engine, just looks that way if you want to
[21:53] <Swizzy> I mean maybe at 720p.. but I don't think I want to do that to myself
[21:53] <gnrp> how decadent! :O
[21:53] <gnrp> :P
[21:54] <gnrp> but that might actually be an option for me. Although there are too many other games to be played first
[21:55] <Swizzy> But well the NUC can run Runelite (an open source oldschool runescape client)
[21:56] <Swizzy> and also SNES emulation should be okay, maybe even N64(?)
[21:57] <gnrp> I was actually thinking of mor emodern stuff. Things that I always thought I should be playing, but never did, like Bioshock
[21:57] <gnrp> what nuc do you plan to buy? I guess the integrated gpu might sitll be pretty performing?
[22:00] <gnrp> anyway, looking at the time, I have to go to bed. gn8!
[22:03] <Swizzy> Goodnight!
[22:04] <Swizzy> I already have the NUC up and running, just looking at an adapter because the whole not having headset is a pain