[00:20] Hey guys I've been bogged down with work for the last two weeks. Can anyone lead me in the right direction in terms of iso testing in an automated fashion? Didn't really get any help from Ubuntu dev. [00:45] @SamuelBanya no idea. we don't manage any of ubuntu's infrastructure. i did find this, though: https://code.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-server-iso-testing-dev/ubuntu-server-iso-testing/trunk [00:47] Ooh I think this would be great. Thanks Wxl [00:48] no problem. sorry to say you'll have to sort of figure it out on your own from there. you might talk to the people involved in making/contributing to that code if you want to know more details. [00:53] if anyone else does a 'live' 19.04 test, please alt+f4 which I'd expect to close a window, but it's switching to tty4 too (shouldn't it be close window only which it does) [00:53] Yeah for sure the docs kind of are explanatory. From what it seems it looks like all I have to do is download the ppa, then set the iso link. The only interesting side aspect is the Hudson master server section which I'll try to reach out to the original committer about. [00:54] guiverc: in a virtual machine? [00:54] nah - real hardware; I'll test it on another box.. [00:54] huh weird [00:54] headed home; talk soon [01:04] wxl - fyi: booted on x201; opened firefox & alt-f4 just closed firefox as expected... i'll continue to explore [01:12] Hey wait what happened to my phab account? I though I already created on with my GitHub [01:13] We lost everything [01:13] Oh ok no worries [01:13] Created another account anyway [01:14] I was gonna say, was it Simon's fault this time ha? [01:14] Jk. Hope the servers are alright [01:14] Better now but it wasn't good for a while. [01:16] @SamuelBanya [I was gonna say, was it Simon's fault this time ha?], Actually it was my boss' fault. :P [01:16] But yeaj [01:16] Gotcha [01:17] So in terms of the packaging tasks, are there any that still need help? Looking to see if I can maybe apply some of the packaging guide materials that Hans sent me links for. [01:17] Is it ok if I make a task for Kvantum? [01:18] Hans said it's an easier one to port [01:23] @SamuelBanya [Hans said it's an easier one to port], Not to port, to package [01:23] Kvantum is qt [01:23] Ah I see ok [01:23] To port from gtk to qt, maybe redshift-gtk [01:48] Yep got it to run successfully with the instructions in their git [01:48] Next step I'll try to see how to package this using the debian packaging guide [04:07] Fwd from Lubuntu Announcements: We're seeking moderators for the r/Lubuntu subreddit! … More details here: https://www.reddit.com/r/Lubuntu/comments/bc9awx/seeking_moderators/ [05:05] Ah! @tsimonq2 is here! Wxl here missed you like anything last meeting XD [05:06] @wxl [ yeah i think @tsimonq2 has abandoned us (this seems to be a trend for meet …], It's called real life. Sorry. [06:53] What are seeded packages and unseeded packages? Any links to read from? [06:54] seeded= what is on the iso [06:54] not seeded= not on iso [06:57] That's it. Noice. [06:59] So the modified package of T3 is now unseeded right? It will be seeded in next release? If I understand it correctly. [06:59] @The_LoudSpeaker [So the modified package of T3 is now unseeded right? It will be seeded in next r …], The one I modified. [07:05] Wxl..? @kc2bez @tsimonq2 ?? [07:31] Was reading the documentation. Found about runner. … Now uninstalling synapse XD [13:05] @lynorian ^^ [13:17] @teward001 broke Lugito I see [13:17] Err [13:17] 😆 [13:24] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [T15: Fix software-properties-qt under other DEs] hmollercl (Hans P. Möller) commented on the task: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T15#665 [13:25] There [13:29] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [T51: fix usb-creator-kde] tsimonq2 (Simon Quigley) commented on the task: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T51#664 [13:29] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rMANUAL2c6342abc6ef: Add split view screenshot] lynorian (Lyn Perrine) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rMANUAL2c6342abc6ef [13:34] @lynorian and it also appears in configuration center. [14:10] I was installing disco in vm. Full disk encryption. Installation was successful but after reboot it takes me to grub rescue. [14:10] In which boot mode do you have installed it? [14:11] Bios [14:11] Using qemu [14:11] If that helps [14:11] I think kpmcore might still be in proposed [14:12] Yes, please check the version of kpmcore on your livesystem [14:12] It should be version 3.3.0-5 [14:12] @apt-ghetto [ Yes, please check the version of kpmcore on your livesystem], I rebooted. No longer in live. [14:13] In https://phab.lubuntu.me/T2 I have added a comment, where you find two commands for convenience to get the deb packet and install it [14:13] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [High, Resolved] Fix EFI encryption: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T2 [14:14] It's for uefi. I installed in BIOS [14:14] It's the same procedure [14:15] You need the update package for both. [14:15] *updated [14:16] So now if I live boot then chmod into the installation and run those commands by apt-ghetto, will it work? [14:16] *chroot [14:17] But first, will it allow me to change root? Considering its encrypted? [14:17] No, it will most likely not work, because your LUKS container is in the "wrong" format [14:17] @apt-ghetto [ No, it will most likely not work, because your LUKS container is in …], Okay. Lite then. I will do a re Install. And follow your steps this time. [14:26] I just manually kicked off an ISO build [14:26] @tsimonq2 [@teward001 broke Lugito I see], No, I think Lugito broke Lugito 😛 [14:26] other than the SMTP stuff on Phab I haven't touched the system. Except to set up an LXD link from my server's LXD instance to the Lubuntu system's LXD instance to facilitate copying :P [14:27] @teward001 [No, I think Lugito broke Lugito 😛], Yes [14:27] I fixed it [14:27] oh good :) [14:47] @The_LoudSpeaker [Okay. Lite then. I will do a re Install. And follow your steps this time.], Update: worked. [15:00] @The_LoudSpeaker please write a comment in the task [15:01] Sure. [15:02] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [T2: Fix EFI encryption] The_LoudSpeaker (Raman Sarda) commented on the task: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T2#668 [15:02] Well, T36 would be the better choice [16:00] @The_LoudSpeaker if you ever get into a situation where you don't see the version of your package on the iso or want to know what version we're on or where your package is, see here https://phab.lubuntu.me/w/packaging/packages/ [16:01] @wxl [ @The_LoudSpeaker if you ever get into a situation where you don't see the …], Noted. [16:04] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [T51: fix usb-creator-kde] wxl (Walter Lapchynski) commented on the task: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T51#670 [16:05] also duuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuude the paste feature is really nice. `cat something | arc paste --lang lang` and you just take the resulting Pn and stick it in a comment like `{Pn}` and boom https://phab.lubuntu.me/T51 [16:05] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [Unbreak Now!, Open] fix usb-creator-kde: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T51 [16:06] well, last comment [16:08] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [T51: fix usb-creator-kde] tsimonq2 (Simon Quigley) commented on the task: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T51#671 [16:11] @wxl [ also duuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuude the paste feature is really nice. `cat something …], We need to determine the most logical default visibility, otherwise I agree [16:11] THE SIMON LIVES *shot* [16:13] @tsimonq2 [It's called real life. Sorry.], ^ [16:13] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [T51: fix usb-creator-kde] wxl (Walter Lapchynski) commented on the task: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T51#672 [16:15] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [T51: fix usb-creator-kde] tsimonq2 (Simon Quigley) commented on the task: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T51#673 [16:15] @tsimonq2 [It's called real life. Sorry.], You're still a teenager. With respect, you've not lived that yet. Just wait until mid 20s. 😱 [16:15] or 30s [16:15] or 40ss [16:16] or later. [16:16] Fair. My point being, I had to deal with more urgent matters outside of Lubuntu [16:16] yeah i don't know anything about that, old man :) [16:16] lol [16:17] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [T51: fix usb-creator-kde] wxl (Walter Lapchynski) commented on the task: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T51#674 [16:19] @acheronuk [You're still a teenager. With respect, you've not lived that yet. Just wait unti …], I mean, prom is tomorrow, so I guess that's a box to check. :P [16:20] why do we gave galternatives ??? [16:21] @tsimonq2 [I mean, prom is tomorrow, so I guess that's a box to check. :P], It can be. Depends...... [16:21] @tsimonq2 [I mean, prom is tomorrow, so I guess that's a box to check. :P], wow!! [16:22] @HMollerCl [why do we have galternatives ???], probably as the other alternative managers are ***t [16:22] assuming its there intentionally [16:23] @acheronuk [It can be. Depends......], Yeah :) [16:23] @HMollerCl [wow!!], Ikr [16:23] @acheronuk [You're still a teenager. With respect, you've not lived that yet. Just wait unti …], Come to university bro. You will be dead already. [16:23] @tsimonq2 [I mean, prom is tomorrow, so I guess that's a box to check. :P], Agreed! Prom is important. [16:23] @The_LoudSpeaker [Come to university bro. You will be dead already.], Been there, done that. [16:24] The struggle is real.. [16:24] have a kid, that's the real game changer [16:26] haha, I've heard... [16:26] Y'all gotta remember too that I've been contributing to Lubuntu since like 7th or 8th grade (middle school) [16:26] I've been through some stuff [16:26] @tsimonq2 [I mean, prom is tomorrow, so I guess that's a box to check. :P], Saturday. So I guess no point bugging you to do anything on Sunday then... 😉 [16:26] @acheronuk [Saturday. So I guess no point bugging you to do anything on Sunday then... 😉], Haha :) [16:27] @tsimonq2 [I've been through some stuff], you can consider lubuntu as your kid. [16:27] @HMollerCl [you can consider lubuntu as your kid.], adopted I would say [16:28] @acheronuk [adopted I would say], ^ [16:28] jajaja [16:31] I try not to think of it like that though. I want Lubuntu to mature to the point where a lot of the day to day stuff is taken care of and I can only work on the stuff I'm purely passionate about. Don't get me wrong, I love working on this stuff, but I'm going to have less and less time as I grow older... [16:32] And, I mean, it's MUCH better now than it was a year ago. I'm really proud of y'all, we've gone really far as a project [16:33] I remember when it was just me and wxl, where we'd sort of tag team at times XD [16:34] If this past year has been this great, I can only imagine what the next one is going to bring [16:41] well, polish more for 20.04 [16:42] For sure [16:51] EgenhoferJ was added by: EgenhoferJ [16:51] I'm here because @tsimonq2 told me to be. [16:51] So, Hello friends! [16:52] We don't always do what @tsimonq2 tells us 😉 [16:52] @EgenhoferJ [So, Hello friends!], welcome :) [16:53] I figured this one had little consequence 🤷🏼‍♂️ [16:57] @EgenhoferJ [I'm here because @tsimonq2 told me to be.], I'm here against my will because @tsimonq2 added me [16:57] Welcome to Mister Simon's Wild Ride [16:58] Love y'all too 😆 [16:59] @tsimonq2 why do we have galternatives ? [16:59] @HMollerCl [@tsimonq2 why do we have galternatives ?], I'm not sure [16:59] Is it in the seed? [17:00] nope [17:00] Hmm [17:01] Look at the livefs build logs to see what pulls it in? [17:01] What happens if you remove it? :D [17:01] @UniversalSuperBox [What happens if you remove it? :D], I don't know what it does, nevr use it. [17:02] @tsimonq2 [Look at the livefs build logs to see what pulls it in?], where is that? [17:02] galternatives is in our packageset. does that count? XD [17:03] https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-cdimage/+livefs/ubuntu/disco/lubuntu/ [17:05] as commented here https://phab.lubuntu.me/T50 [17:05] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [Needs Triage, Open] figure out why we have golang in our packageset: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T50 [17:06] Did you remove ubuntu-report yet? 😆 [17:08] https://phab.lubuntu.me/source/seed/browse/disco/desktop$256 [17:08] "analytic reporting" sounds like it might be useful [17:09] We have to have a userspace tool [17:10] I'm personally very much against it. Ignorance is bliss, I refuse to look at those numbers. [17:12] ummmmm [17:12] you're to blame, @tsimonq2 [17:12] https://phab.lubuntu.me/rSEEDcb0b37d32adbd117f046cdf59eb2e91b0ea0a0dc [17:12] Yeah no, axe [17:14] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rMANUAL9ba19270f6a1: Add launch additional drivers directly] lynorian (Lyn Perrine) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rMANUAL9ba19270f6a1 [17:20] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [T36: Fix full disk encryption on BIOS systems] The_LoudSpeaker (Raman Sarda) commented on the task: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T36#677 [17:21] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [T36: Fix full disk encryption on BIOS systems] tsimonq2 (Simon Quigley) commented on the task: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T36#680 [17:32] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [T4: Make it lighter] wxl (Walter Lapchynski) commented on the task: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T4#682 [17:33] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [T51: fix usb-creator-kde] wxl (Walter Lapchynski) commented on the task: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T51#685 [17:34] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rMANUALc642535bbdc6: rewrite settings for enabling and disabling repositories] lynorian (Lyn Perrine) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rMANUALc642535bbdc6 [17:34] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [T4: Make it lighter] wxl (Walter Lapchynski) commented on the task: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T4#691 [17:38] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [T50: figure out why we have golang in our packageset] wxl (Walter Lapchynski) commented on the task: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T50#696 [17:42] if someone wants an easy one they can remove ubuntu-report from the seed. see T50 [17:48] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rMANUALdf49c2d7eef4: Add Download from drop down and summarize next tab in paragraph form] lynorian (Lyn Perrine) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rMANUALdf49c2d7eef4 [18:16] What does "Needs Triage" means ? [18:18] someone needs to give it a priotity [18:18] link me and i'll fix it [18:20] Must be T50 it is the only one that needs triage and is open. https://phab.lubuntu.me/T50 [18:20] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [Needs Triage, Open] figure out why we have golang in our packageset: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T50 [18:21] fixed [18:24] what was the comand to look at which packages need another? [18:24] like, which packages need galternatives [18:27] apt-rdepends --reverse galternatives [18:30] mmm, apparently none [18:30] http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/SCMSbVBNN4/ [18:31] try `apt rdepends galternatives` maybe? [18:31] oooo, t6hat brought something [18:32] lxqt-config recomends it [18:32] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [T50: figure out why we have golang in our packageset] hmollercl (Hans P. Möller) commented on the task: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T50#698 [18:33] @HMollerCl [lxqt-config recomends it], Does it only recommend galternatives or is there an alternate? [18:33] Also, please don't knock down the fence before you know why it was put up :) [18:33] @tsimonq2 [Also, please don't knock down the fence before you know why it was put up :)], That's life advice right there mate. [18:35] @tsimonq2 [Also, please don't knock down the fence before you know why it was put up :)], buuu I wanted to recommend to remove lxqt-config. [18:35] Hahaha [18:35] Seriously though, why's it there? [18:35] That may involve hunting down agaida :P [18:36] is there any way we can pin the blame on this being present to Simon? :P [18:36] @teward001 [is there any way we can pin the blame on this being present to Simon? :P], I'm the Release Manager so I'm blamed by default for everything [18:37] I'm choosing to delegate blame :P [18:37] heh [18:37] @tsimonq2 [That may involve hunting down agaida :P], He might say we packed it wrong [18:38] @HMollerCl [He might say we packed it wrong], I never said when you asked agaida you had to believe him ;) [18:38] lol [18:39] It's too late for 19.04 but we can fix it for 19.10 [18:41] it's in debian https://packages.debian.org/sid/x11/lxqt-config [18:42] Right, which is why I suggested asking agaida [18:42] Try #lxqt on OFTC [18:42] He should be hiding there, somewhere [18:43] I'd recommend you get a bouncer or a persistent IRC client of some sort because he can take a while sometimes [18:43] I'm behind a proxy now :( [18:43] Hmm, Matrix? [18:44] Is Matrix trustable again? [18:44] I think so [18:45] https://matrix.org/blog/2019/04/11/security-incident/ [18:46] Good to know, thanks. I knew they were having some issues. [18:46] Yeah [18:52] I asked in the forum [19:03] matrix is trustable but doesn't seem to be working for me [19:04] we could change the recommends to galternatives or kalternatives [19:05] oh but kalternatives still has some qt4 stuff in it [19:12] @HMollerCl on upgrade is software-properties-qt supposed to keep previous release repositoires as able to be enabled? [19:12] in the list [19:13] I'm not sure [19:14] but, it should show what's on the list, it depends on what the upgrade does. [19:14] odd it kept the source reposities but disabled them not the binary ones [19:15] you can still open the gtk version [19:15] not installed I upgraded this from cosmic to disco [19:15] oo, not anymore [19:16] well the source repos probably will do less harm than binary one of older distro package which feels like it opens all kinds of cans of worms that are hard to support [19:17] I know that regardless of release, I keep the Source package lines on-system so `umt` works for me, but other than that... [19:18] yes that somewhat could be useful I didn't realize it was just source at first and kind of had a what moment [19:21] @acheronuk you also have software-properties-kde ?? [19:21] it's like software-properties-qt but with smaller font and no icons [19:24] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rMANUAL52d4adfed3c1: Add remove button to software sources] lynorian (Lyn Perrine) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rMANUAL52d4adfed3c1 [19:29] @HMollerCl [@acheronuk you also have software-properties-kde ??], no [19:32] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rMANUAL170f4f06b055: Add reset and reload the software sources] lynorian (Lyn Perrine) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rMANUAL170f4f06b055 [19:34] https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/lubuntu-default-settings/+bug/1769420 … Should I change the status to fix released? [19:38] ugh [19:38] well kalternatives is out [19:38] it's a kcm module [19:38] what does kcm module mean? [19:38] took me forveer to figure it out. the desktop file is in /usr/share/kde4/services [19:38] kde's proprietary b.s. [19:41] it's actually "k config module" which is to say it will "fit into" the kde system settings kind of like lxqt does [19:48] more technically, it's like a instantiation of a class.. lxqt-config has modules that do something similar, but it's their propreitary thing [19:54] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [T44: add python3-launchpadlib to live seed] wxl (Walter Lapchynski) commented on the task: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T44#700 [19:57] @wxl [ more technically, it's like a instantiation of a class.. lxqt-config has m …], so, we can't use it? I installed and didn't knew how to launch it. Same thin happened with print-manager [19:57] @HMollerCl right. we can't use it.. unless we totally rewrite it. [19:58] do you know if same thing happens to print-manager? [19:59] let me see [19:59] one sec [19:59] (lxqt-config also recommends system-config-printer) [20:02] this one is not quite so clear [20:02]