=== lotuspsychje_ is now known as lotuspsychje
GargoyleMornin' all. Anyone else getting signing issues with google chrome repo's this morning, or have I broken something? :-/08:25
lotuspsychjeGargoyle: chrome isnt officially on ubuntu repos, use chromium-browser as the ubuntu alternate08:26
GargoyleThanks lotuspsychje, I'm aware of Chrome vs Chromium. I was just wondering if any other 19.04 testers using Chrome had woken up to the same today.08:29
lotuspsychjeGargoyle: for chrome issues, best to contact the chrome maintainers08:31
guivercGargoyle, maybe look at https://askubuntu.com/questions/1133199/the-following-signatures-were-invalid-expkeysig-1397bc53640db551  if that's your issue; ie. google stuffed up, no doubt they'll be working on it so be patient08:55
GargoyleThanks, guiverc.09:17
tomreynGargoyle: you can do this:   sudo apt-key net-update12:29
tomreynit should get the non-expired (extended) copy of the key you already have from a keyserver.12:30
GargoyleThanks tomreyn. I'll remember that for the future, but it looks like google has messed something up. Manually downloading the key and trying to add it doesn't work.12:39
GargoyleResults in "gpg: no valid OpenPGP data found."12:39
tomreynGargoyle: it is correct that the signing key that expired today is not available at https://dl.google.com/linux/linux_signing_key.pub12:41
tomreynthis said, a non-expired copy of the signing key that is actually used to sign these packages, and was accepted by your system until today, is available on gpg keyservers. and that the   sudo apt-key net-update   command retrives this copy for your local system. 12:42
tomreynwhich should then re-enable your system to work with this repository.12:42
Gargoylenope. :-(12:43
Gargoyleapt-key net-update had no effect12:43
tomreynGargoyle: can you show the    apt-get update    warning / error message?12:44
Gargoyleyup. I pastebinned it this morning in another chan... let me dig it up12:44
tomreynso you still got the exct same message with the exact same warning and key id now?12:45
Gargoyleyup (https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/4SV6hC3C8x/)12:46
tomreynGargoyle: does this output anything?  apt-key list 2>&1 | grep -A1 '1397 BC53 640D B551'12:50
tomreynGargoyle:  actually this: apt-key list 1397BC53640DB55112:52
Gargoyletomreyn: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/fJWpHq4j2v/12:53
Gargoylesays it expires in 2020 :-/12:54
tomreynright, so it's not expired.12:55
tomreynmaybe the locally installed copy of this key somehow overrides the one imported from the network, not sure.12:55
tomreynsudo apt-get update     still reports the warning now, right?12:56
tomreynmaybbe if you run "sudo apt-key update" it will fix it.12:58
GargoyleThat seems to only want to operate on ubuntu keys.12:59
tomreynok, i give up then.13:05
GargoyleThanks anyway. I learned some new commands! :-)13:10
lotuspsychjetenplus1: explain whats happening in kernel 5 plz?14:26
tenplus1when update installed 5.0 it reboot and came to a black screen with stable cursor (no flashing) and does nothing else... I can ctrl+alt+1 to a new tty andlogin through terminal to reboot back into 4.19 kernel and that works fine14:27
tenplus1I looked at journal but no errors appear, few lines with v4l camera not found but nothing else14:28
lotuspsychjetenplus1: are your graphics drivers installed correctly?14:28
tenplus1intel gfx14:28
tenplus1it's running on 64-bit Acer Cloudbook 14 with 2gb and intel gfx14:28
tenplus1it wont even boot from flash drive when 5.0 kernel is on it14:29
lotuspsychjetenplus1: is it possible to share your dmesg of the kernel 5 boot?14:29
tenplus1yeah, lemmie get laptop and try14:29
lotuspsychjetnx tenplus1 14:33
lotuspsychjetenplus1: can you confirm if your bios is update to latest?ยต14:36
lotuspsychje!info linux-image-generic14:38
ubottulinux-image-generic (source: linux-meta): Generic Linux kernel image. In component main, is optional. Version (disco), package size 2 kB, installed size 15 kB14:38
tenplus1yeah 1.1 is latest14:38
lotuspsychjetenplus1: ok i dont really find much suspicious, unless the acpi warnings14:38
lotuspsychjetenplus1: might be interesting to file a new !bug on your issue14:39
tomreynhi tenplus1, why do you boot with the nopti kernel parameter?14:39
tenplus1strange what kernel 4.18 works fine but 5.0 being newer does not...14:39
tenplus1speed mostly, it boosts web browser... but tried without that flag as well14:39
tenplus1want me to remove ?14:39
tomreynif you can post the journal of a boot without this parameter, that'sd be nice, yes14:40
tenplus1okie, 2 ticks14:40
tomreyntenplus1: newer bios versions (you have 1.1.0): https://www.acer.com/ac/en/US/content/support-product/6363?b=114:47
tenplus1o.O how to flash using linux ?14:48
tomreynhmm, it's an insyde bios. the only vendor (acer) supported approach will be flashing from windows, i suppose. the bios vendor (insyde) provides linux utilities for flashing as well, but those are officially only available to their customers / partners.there are some copies available online, though, but you'd void your warranty using them.14:51
tomreynlet's consider other options for now.14:51
tenplus1yup... really dont wanna brick my laptop :P14:51
tomreyn"Updates CPU microcode and VGA BIOS/GOP driver" in version 1.11 could be related, though14:51
tenplus1if only it were as easy as running dosbox :D14:53
lotuspsychjeyou wont brick laptop with the right firmware for your device tenplus1 14:53
tomreynmeanwhile a developer reported potentially similar issues to yours with linux 5.014:53
tomreynIntel(R) Celeron(R) CPU  N3060 is your cpu14:53
tomreynthe other person reporting it has the same cpu14:54
tenplus1processor related ?14:54
tomreynthis is really just a guess so far14:54
tenplus1damn intel cpu's... my desktop has pentium j2900 and that stalls without a grub line fix14:54
tomreynit would help if you could report a bug14:54
tomreynif intel related at all, this is most likely limited to this very cpu model.14:55
lotuspsychjetenplus1: also just before the bug report, see if there's an existing duplicate already14:55
tenplus1what site do I report issue ?14:55
lotuspsychjeubuntu-bug linux14:56
lotuspsychjetenplus1: that will direct your bug to launchpad, it will need a launchpad account from you14:56
tenplus1thanks :)14:56
lotuspsychjetenplus1: then add your title/story and working kernel version, details14:57
lotuspsychjefeel free to share the bug # after with us14:57
tenplus1they really didnt make it easy to report a bug15:00
lotuspsychjetenplus1: where are you stuck?15:00
tenplus1am on here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ReportingBugs15:00
tenplus1trying to see where to go to report the actual bug15:01
lotuspsychjetenplus1: first you need to make the launchpad account15:01
tenplus1am already signed on15:01
lotuspsychjetenplus1: ok now from a terminal: ubuntu-bug linux15:02
lotuspsychjeOerHeks: scroll to Gargoyle ^^(chrome)15:02
tomreynthe "ubuntu-bug linux" command will collect some environmental information on your system and add it to your bug report, which helps the developers to identify issues.15:03
GargoyleI know it's not 19.04 specific, but just for FYI. I removed chrome and it's entries from apt sources lists and then re-installed via a fresh .deb download and it hasn't put itself back into sources lists! :/15:04
lotuspsychjeGargoyle: yeah, we got another case in #ubuntu atm15:04
tenplus1hopethis helps: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/182454615:06
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1824546 in Ubuntu "Intel N3060 booting into black screen with 5.0 kernel" [Undecided,New]15:06
lotuspsychjeGargoyle: feel free to follow in #ubuntu-discuss too15:06
lotuspsychjetenplus1: you did not use the terminal way, wich misses alot of vital info15:06
lotuspsychjetomreyn: can you tell him that command to still add it?15:07
tomreynsorry, i should tell whom what?15:08
lotuspsychjetomreyn: the apport trick to add vital info to his bug, he didnt use the terminal ubuntu-bug15:09
tomreynoh right, thanks for clarifying.15:09
lotuspsychje: )15:09
tomreyntenplus1: please run:  sudo apport-collect 182454615:09
tomreynthis will add vital information to your bug report which developers will need to handle your bug report15:10
tenplus1command not found15:10
tomreyntenplus1: you must have a typo there15:11
tomreyncan you show the command you ran?15:11
tenplus1exactly the same as you typed above15:12
tomreyntenplus1: what's the output of: nc termbin.com < <( dpkg -l apport 2>&1; which apport 2>&1;)15:14
lotuspsychjetenplus1: is apport installed?15:14
tenplus1chhecked synaptic, says it's not... wonder if the upgrade messed up something15:14
lotuspsychjetenplus1: you didnt upgrade from 18.10 right?15:14
tomreynapport is indeed priority 'optional', i expected it to be 'required'15:15
lotuspsychjei have it installed on bionic tomreyn 15:16
tomreynme, too15:17
lotuspsychje!info apport15:17
ubottuapport (source: apport): automatically generate crash reports for debugging. In component main, is optional. Version 2.20.10-0ubuntu27 (disco), package size 121 kB, installed size 780 kB15:17
lotuspsychje!info apport bionic15:18
ubottuapport (source: apport): automatically generate crash reports for debugging. In component main, is optional. Version 2.20.9-0ubuntu7.6 (bionic), package size 120 kB, installed size 772 kB15:18
lotuspsychjecant recall installing it15:18
tomreynit's probably a dependency of ubuntu-desktop, maybe -server, maybe -minimal15:18
lotuspsychjeah good thinking15:19
tenplus1yeah I did minimal install15:19
lotuspsychjetenplus1: did you choose a minimal15:19
lotuspsychjecleared :p15:19
lotuspsychjetenplus1: so sudo apt install apport, try the command again from tomreyn please15:20
tenplus1package apport is not available... hold on, lemmie check synaptic15:21
tenplus1itwont find it during search...15:22
tenplus1o.O ok am confused15:22
tomreyntenplus1: please run this and return the url here:   sudo /bin/true && cat &>/tmp/aptlog < <(sudo apt-get -qqy update 2>&1; apt-cache policy 2>&1; sudo apt-get -syV full-upgrade 2>&1;); nc termbin.com 9999 </tmp/aptlog; rm /tmp/aptlog 15:22
tomreynthis will let us validate your apt sources15:23
tenplus1I have no idea what that does15:24
tenplus1am nervous even running it, sorry guys15:24
tomreynmeaning you prefer not to run it, since you don't feel safe about it?15:24
tomreynlet's do it simpler then: run this:   sudo apt-get update15:25
tenplus1did that15:25
tomreynthis just updates the systesm' information on which packages are available for installation15:25
tomreyndid it report any errors or warnings?15:25
tomreynnow run this    apt-cache policy15:26
tomreynand if you're ok with sharing this output with us, please do15:26
tomreynand once you're done with this, run this to just pretend to do a full update of all installed packages:   sudo apt-get --simulate full-upgrade15:27
tomreynand again, if you're comfortable with sharing the full output there, please do.15:27
tomreynwhen i say "sharing the output", i mean posting it to https://paste.ubuntu.com and posting the web address you end up on here.15:28
lotuspsychjetenplus1: we make you work hard heh :p15:28
tomreynthe url you just posted says "This page is no longer available. It has either expired, been removed by its creator, or removed by one of the Pastebin staff."15:28
tomreynplease use https://paste.ubuntu.com15:28
tomreynyou lack some repositories.15:29
tenplus1found a guide showing how to make bootable .img using freedos so I can run bios update, but update is too huge to fit on floppy :) heh15:29
tomreyndisco-updates and disco-security15:29
tomreynyour bios update is 9 MB, floppy disks could store up to 1,44 MB.15:31
tenplus1disco updates and security are ticked inside UPDATES tab of software & updates15:31
tenplus1the bios update is 4.8mb15:31
tomreynlooks like you found another bug then ;)15:31
tomreynCO112SFS.FD is the actual bios update after unpacking the .exr file15:32
tomreynbut let's focus on completing your bug report for now.15:33
tenplus1okie :)15:33
tomreyni suggest you untick disco updates and security on the UPDATES tab of software & updates15:33
tomreynthen close it15:33
tomreynthen confirm to run an update15:34
tomreynthen open it again, then tick them again, then close it again, then confirm to run an update15:34
tomreynthen run     apt-cache policy     again, and post the output to https://paste.ubuntu.com15:34
tomreynhmm, still missing15:36
tomreynyou can add them manually.15:36
tenplus119.04 has a few issues it seems, although this is coming from a 18.10 upgrade so who knows15:37
tomreyni suspect it may be due to the mirror server you have set15:37
tenplus1apport exists15:37
tomreynexists where?15:38
tomreynbut you cannot install it?15:38
tenplus1searched and found this time around, isntalling now15:38
lotuspsychjetenplus1: we really reccomend until final release to help testing with clean installs (daily)15:38
lotuspsychjetenplus1: this way we dont give the developers no extra work searching for maybe upgrade flaws15:39
tenplus1this way we find the flaws just-in-case15:39
lotuspsychjetenplus1: but your case, you said you tested a kernel 5 usb boot too right?15:40
tenplus1k, the command is running now15:41
tenplus1yeah, wouldnt even boot into live image15:41
tomreyndeb http://mirror.bytemark.co.uk/ubuntu disco-updates main restricted universe multiverse15:42
tomreyndeb http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu disco-security main restricted universe multiverse15:42
tenplus1ok, run command, authenticated link etc15:42
tenplus1what do I do now 15:42
tomreynadd these two lines (ignore le_bot) to your /etc/apt/sources.list to get security patches and bug fixes.15:42
tomreynyour bug report now tells you what you need to do: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/182454615:43
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1824546 in linux (Ubuntu) "Intel N3060 booting into black screen with 5.0 kernel" [Undecided,Incomplete]15:43
tenplus1it's sent report via term15:43
tomreynoh its already ther enow, cool15:44
tomreynyes, looks fine now15:44
tomreynwell done15:44
lotuspsychjegreat job15:44
tomreyntenplus1: so i suggest you add those two lines i posted to your apt sources15:44
tomreyntenplus1: and when that is done we can look into a possible workaround15:45
tenplus1they exist right down the bottom already15:45
tomreynwho or what exists where right down the bottom of what already?15:46
tenplus1lol, the 2 sources lines for updates and security already exist in the sources.list file15:47
lotuspsychjetenplus1: this machine goes far as InstallationMedia: Xubuntu 16.10 "Yakkety Yak" - Alpha amd64 (20160824) ?15:48
tenplus1I've had many versions installed :) yeah15:48
tomreynand you started with an alpha, uh15:48
lotuspsychjetenplus1: try to avoid that in the future okay, what we discussed15:48
lotuspsychjeclean dailys :p15:48
tenplus1if the daily boots :P15:49
lotuspsychjetenplus1: but thank you for taking your time to report the bug15:49
tomreynokay the reason i assumed you dont have those two apt sources, yet is because they are empty so far, and thus don't show in the "apt-cache policy" output15:49
tenplus1eventhough they were enabled... strange15:51
lotuspsychjewell even on a minimal, kernel should at least boot right 15:52
tomreyntenplus1: for a possible workaround, just create a file /etc/X11/xorg.conf and put this inside: https://termbin.com/efoq15:52
tenplus1what will that do ?15:52
tomreynconfigure the X graphics server to use the "intel" graphics driver15:53
tomreynnormally this should be happening automatically. apparently it does not happen automatically with kernel 5.015:53
tenplus1checking now15:54
tomreynso this is a workaround you may want to test / use tempoirarily until your bug report is fixed.15:54
tomreynonce it is fixed, you should remove the file15:54
tomreynonce the bug you reported enters state "fix released", that is15:55
tenplus1will this impact the gfx in any way ?15:55
tomreynyes, i hope so. ideally it'll work then.15:55
tenplus1I mean will it amke things slower using this ? than what it usually uses ?15:55
tenplus1ah kewl, btw it booted :)15:56
tenplus1thanks guys :D15:56
tomreynso linux 5.0 boots fine with this configuration?15:56
lotuspsychjethank you for the report tenplus1 15:56
tenplus1might not need to update bios anymore :D15:56
tomreyntenplus1: please confirm, so i can add this to cyour bug report as a workaround for others.15:57
tenplus1will reboot again15:58
tenplus1yup, booted again and uname reports 5.0.0-8 kernel... thanks :))15:59
lotuspsychjeEickmeyer: ^16:00
tomreyntenplus1: thanks for confirming.16:00
tenplus1is it really worth keeping bios up to date ya think ?16:00
lotuspsychjetenplus1: well as we saw some acpi warnings in your dmesg, you are the boss of your system :p16:01
tenplus1I prolly should... this is gonna get messy :D 3 guides open already16:02
lotuspsychjetenplus1: can you try: fwupdate -l from terminal plz?16:03
Eickmeyertenplus1: I posted a workaround in your bug report, but I have the same problem. The workaround was my fix: https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Intel_graphics#Xorg_configuration16:03
tenplus1thanks Eickmeyer16:03
tenplus1does fwupdate work ??? I mean, will it brick my pc16:04
lotuspsychje-l will give you a list (if available)16:04
tenplus1nothing appears16:04
tomreyntenplus1: wont work for you , no16:04
lotuspsychjethe manual way then :p16:05
ubottuTo see how to update your bios on Ubuntu visit the community collected methods here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BIOSUpdate16:05
tenplus1yeah tried all those, turns out I need to make a bootable freedos image and copy the .exe file onto it to update my bios here16:07
tenplus1long winded way of doing something so simple16:07
lotuspsychjeevery brand has its own system and for ubuntu, it can be fiddle around a bit sometimes16:08
tomreynwhat you would need is a vopy of H2OFFT-Lx6416:09
tomreyna *c*opy16:09
tenplus1who ?16:10
tomreynyou, tenplus1 16:10
tomreynthat'S the linux variant of insyde's bios flashing tools16:11
tenplus1would be nice if there was a simple ubuntu guide on downloading an .iso/.img for FreeDOS and mounting it to copy your bios files onto it, write and boot16:14
tomreynhttp://download.udoo.org/files/UDOO_X86/UEFI_update/UDOOX86_B02-UEFI_Update_rel106.zip contains a copy.16:14
tenplus1what does that actually do ?16:16
tomreyninstall the bios update16:17
tenplus1permission denied while building...16:22
tenplus1oh well, I tried :P16:22
tomreynso you'd need /Linux/x64/x64/H2OFFT-Lx64 from http://download.udoo.org/files/UDOO_X86/UEFI_update/UDOOX86_B02-UEFI_Update_rel106.zip , the firmware update file CO112SFS.FD and firmware update configuration file platform.ini which are contained in the self-extracting exe file (unpack using unzip) in https://global-download.acer.com/GDFiles/BIOS/BIOS/BIOS_Acer_1.12_A_A.zip?acerid=63623155744817482116:24
tomreynand the right command line options, which you'd need to find out yourself, since i don't want to pass you a loaded gun16:24
tenplus1am gonna skip it, too much hassle :) thanks tho16:25
tomreynok ;)16:26
lotuspsychjetomreyn: did you experiment with flashrom before?16:34
tenplus1oh yeah, Minetest stable is now at 5.0.1 but the ubu repo's for 19.04 still use the older version, can this be sorted before release ?16:42
tomreynlotuspsychje: the "flashrom" utility? no, i never had matching hardware.16:49
tomreyntenplus1: 19.04 is past the freeze, so no, it would have to be a !SRU, MRU or !PPA16:50
tenplus1aww, ok16:50
tomreynprobably not MRU, since i doubt it's in main16:50
tomreyn(or will be)16:51
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