[00:06] <Eickmeyer> Dice: As already stated, we do not support self-compiled software here. If you compiled it yourself, please seek other support channels.
[00:06] <Dice> Eickmeyer: I reinstalled it and didn't compile it myself, but again: this is not a tor specific question
[00:06] <Dice> it's an Ubuntu question, which I ask in #ubuntu
[00:07] <Dice> I'm not asking "How do I configure this tor config?" I'm asking "How do I find this Ubuntu thing in Ubuntu?"
[00:07] <Dice> that's why I removed the mentions of Tor in the path, but clearly I missed one of them
[00:07] <Eickmeyer> Dice: You installed it via an unsupported method before. That's why you're in the situation you are in. We have no idea how to help you beyond that.
[00:08] <Dice> Eickmeyer: No, that's not why I'm in the situation I'm in
[00:08] <Dice> it's completely reinstalled now
[00:08] <Eickmeyer> Dice: Via what method?
[00:08] <Dice> one of the methods I was given here. But it's irrelevant because I'm asking about Ubuntu
[00:09] <OerHeks> !tor
[00:09] <Eickmeyer> No, you are asking about Tor.
[00:09] <Dice> Eickmeyer: No, the question is about Ubuntu
[00:09] <OerHeks> the factoid says do their thing, not apt
[00:09] <Dice> I'm asking: How do I find a specific systemd file
[00:09] <Dice> is systemd tor or ubuntu?
[00:09] <Dice> (It's ubuntu)
[00:09] <Eickmeyer> Dice: Sorry, that's a tor thing. They install their own systemd files. We are not responsible.
[00:09] <OerHeks> so tell us what method of installing you used?
[00:09] <Dice> I also asked about how to see what user is assigned in a systemd file. Is this about tor or ubuntu? (hint: ubuntu)
[00:10] <Dice> OerHeks: It's irrelevant, I was asking about systemd
[00:10] <Dice> it could be literally any program
[00:10] <Dice> it's not relevant
[00:10] <Eickmeyer> Dice: Then check in #systemd. This is offtopic.
[00:10] <Dice> ...huh?
[00:10] <Dice> Eickmeyer: systemd is ubuntu
[00:10] <Dice> if you have no idea how ubuntu works, then why are you whining about questions here?
[00:10] <leftyfb> Dice: if you installed via apt, then the systemd file gets installed automatically and works perfectly. If you're not in that state, then you did not install tor using the supported method
[00:11] <Dice> leftyfb: I did, and it does not work automatically. It does work after you remove a broken file though
[00:11] <Dice> What I was asking now was about a permission error
[00:11] <leftyfb> Dice: it worked perfectly for me
[00:11] <Dice> this had nothing to do with Tor itself, but how Ubuntu works
[00:11] <leftyfb> Dice: I got no permission issues
[00:11] <Eickmeyer> Dice: I'm an ubuntu developer. Please do not lecture me.
[00:11] <Dice> so the question is ubuntu related
[00:11] <Dice> leftyfb: That doesn't mean it's impossible to get. I solved the permissio nerror
[00:12] <Dice> so I've currently got no question to need answered. What I'm saying is that I *was* asking a question about Ubuntu, not about tor specifically
[00:12] <leftyfb> Dice: please pastebin the output of: sudo lsof -i :9050
[00:12] <Dice> Eickmeyer: You're a tor developer and you still don't understand that systemd questions are on-topic in #Ubuntu?
[00:12] <Dice> Ubuntu developer*
[00:13] <Dice> Somehow I doubt that
[00:13] <Dice> leftyfb: you want to know the user?
[00:14] <leftyfb> Dice: I want the complete output of: sudo lsof -i :9050
[00:14] <Dice> tor     912 debian-tor    6u  IPv4  27649      0t0  TCP localhost:9050 (LISTEN)
[00:14] <leftyfb> Dice: now: sudo apt-cache policy tor
[00:15] <Dice> https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/xVCs6Bs6dc/
[00:16] <leftyfb> Dice: ok, you're using their .deb which we do not support. Good luck.
[00:16] <Dice> Again, I haven't asked about tor
[00:16] <rypervenche> Dice: You won't get support here for things that are not in default Ubuntu.
[00:17] <leftyfb> Dice: your issue is with trying to get the tor application from the tor repo to work.
[00:17] <leftyfb> Dice: we are not going to help with that. Sorry.
[00:17] <Dice> rypervenche: My question was this: "How do I find a systemd file that shows up in 'locate', but does not seem to actually exist where 'locate' says it exists?"
[00:17] <Dice> that is a plain ubuntu question
[00:17] <Dice> it could be about literally any software and any systemd file
[00:17] <Dice> it's irrelevant
[00:17] <rypervenche> Dice: sudo updatedb then your locate will be accurate
[00:18] <Dice> jesus christ that was so fucking difficult for anyone else to say
[00:18] <Eickmeyer> !op
[00:18] <leftyfb> Dice: watch the language
[00:18] <Eickmeyer> hggdh:
[00:18] <Dice> jesus christ that was so freaking difficult for everone else to say*
[00:18] <skatetensor> Dice: are you trying to use the tor browser or tor chat?
[00:18] <leftyfb> skatetensor: tor service
[00:19] <skatetensor> If tor using is an absolute for you i'd suggest to go with something that works oftb with tor
[00:19] <Dice> Eickmeyer: Hopefully you'll get banned for unnecessarily whining about a systemd question, and then incorrectly saying it's off topic to ask about systemd in #ubuntu
[00:19] <skatetensor> Parrot linux for example
[00:19] <popey> Dice: wind it in
[00:19] <Dice> Eickmeyer: Check rypervenche's answer, that was literally all I was looking for
[00:19] <leftyfb> Dice: lose the attitude or leave
[00:19] <Dice> leftyfb: I never had an attitude, I asked a simple question and he was complaining about it
[00:20] <Dice> that's not how to treat someone who asks for help with ubuntu (not tor specific)
[00:20] <leftyfb> Dice: multiple people were telling you that you were offtopic. Regardless, you have your answer. Good luck with your tor.
[00:20] <Dice> leftyfb: how is it off topic to ask "How do I find a systemd file that shows up in 'locate' but does not seem to exist"?
[00:21] <skatetensor> jiz people chill , make badly coded .debs not war
[00:21] <leftyfb> Dice: discussion is over
[00:21] <Dice> leftyfb: exactly. it's not off topic. Sure, I might've worded it wrong but just give up, seriously
[00:21] <Dice> at least make an attempt to understand what I'm saying.
[00:23] <alien64> Rude helpers here not the way it should be.
[00:24] <leftyfb> alien64: can we help you with something? You can chat or rant in #ubuntu-offtopic if you like.
[00:24] <Dice> I even censored every mention of tor just because you autistic retards panic every time, I just missed one. If I literally removed every instance of the word "tor" in my question, then the question clearly is not about tor leftyfb Eickmeyer. It's impossible to get support from you autistic fucking idiots, im outta here
[00:25] <alien64> leftyfb:  you certainly may not help me.
[00:39] <Vic3> I am accessing the HD on my laptop which wont boot due to a likely boot sector error ... I was advised it is best to try to backup as much as possible ... am now booted with a bootable ubuntu cd but have permissions errors ... I suck at permissions ... how can I access files on the HD?
[00:40] <OerHeks> testdisk, photorec, or other disaster software
[00:41] <OerHeks> https://www.cgsecurity.org/wiki/TestDisk_Step_By_Step
[00:41] <ozaki> Vic3: What do you mean permissions?Normally if you use a live USB, lets say ubuntu, when you are using its live mode you can go to the file manager and then access the partition you are interested
[00:41] <justaddcoffee> greetings all-i would like to make an iso of a cd rom software i have from within ubuntu would dd be the way to do it provided im certain about the sdx (so i dont delete anything i shouldnt)
[00:42] <OerHeks> ozaki, his partition scheme is broken, beyound boundries
[00:42] <OerHeks> and some parts are missing, iirc
[00:44] <OerHeks> dd would do: dd if=/dev/cdrom of=/path/to/file.iso
[00:45] <justaddcoffee> thank you OerHeks ur always very helpful =)
[00:46] <Vic3> ozaki - exactly, but when I try to copy files to an external USB I get: Permission denied when I try to copy the files.
[00:47] <ozaki> Vic3: So are you able to read the files and you can't copy them?
[00:47] <Vic3> right
[00:48] <ozaki> so what i would do is, find the path of where your files are stored
[00:48] <ozaki> and then sudo chmod a+rwx file path
[00:50] <ozaki> Or even a simpler version that might work,right click on the file and change its permissions on the properties tabs
[00:50] <ozaki> tab*
[00:50] <Vic3> right clicking and changing does not work as it says I am not the owner.
[00:50] <Vic3> so I am guessing I need to use the command line and sudo.
[00:51] <ozaki> Wait a moment of inspiration here
[00:51] <ozaki> please do, clt+alt+t
[00:51] <Vic3> which is?
[00:51] <ozaki> to open a terminal, and then sudo -i
[00:52] <Bashing-om> Vic3: What is the desination directory > as you do not want to mess with changing any systems directories.
[00:52] <ozaki> then type nautilus
[00:52] <ozaki> and then try to copy the files
[00:52] <Vic3> ahh, ok - brilliant thought .. let me check it.
[00:53] <Vic3> Bashing-om ... I am just working to copy important files, media, documents, etc.
[00:53] <Vic3> so if all goes to hell when I try to fix the boot sector, I will have my important stuff. :)
[00:53] <Bashing-om> Vic3: :) .. but to where ?
[00:54] <Vic3> external USB drive?  WD MyBook.
[00:54] <Bashing-om> Vic3: Then yes, "you" should own the destination directory.
[00:54] <Vic3> Right but apparently do not own the origin directory. :(
[00:55] <ozaki> so... did it work?;
[00:55] <ozaki> :p
[00:55] <Vic3> going now, brb.
[00:59] <tomreyn> ozaki / Vic3: to access a location in nautilus as the root user, don't run nautilus as the root root, just access said path with a prefix of "admin://"
[01:00] <N0ph8> nice
[01:01] <ozaki> tomreyn: Thanks,but if you want to access the path via terminal with a live usb you first need to mount the drive
[01:02] <BreccaBronding> is ubuntu based on debian testing or unstable?
[01:02] <ozaki> The permissions problem is only ubuntu related, i can copy files from a live usb that has Manjaro
[01:03] <leftyfb> BreccaBronding: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ubuntu#History
[01:03] <Vic3> ok ... sorta works.  I need to change ownership from the 'owner' to root on SOME files.
[01:03] <Bashing-om> BreccaBronding: Neither - ubuntu is a sister to debian.
[01:04] <Vic3> ozaki - is there a potential better live cd to use?
[01:04] <leftyfb> Bashing-om: "Ubuntu packages are based on packages from Debian's unstable branch."
[01:04] <Bashing-om> leftyfb: Many :)
[01:05] <ozaki> Vic3: I did a clean install  a week ago and i also copied the files from a live usb.So i can say that i did not have a problem with a parrot live usb or a manjaro live usb
[01:05] <Vic3> Anyways ozaki -- it bitched because it could not save /root/nautilus/config
[01:06] <Vic3> but I ignored the error and ... /shrug
[01:06] <Vic3> parrot or manjaro, which is smaller, easier, cleaner ?
[01:07] <leftyfb> Vic3: both are offtopic here
[01:07] <leftyfb> Vic3: use Lubuntu
[01:07] <eaglgenes101> I've been having this problem for a while
[01:07] <Vic3> Just asking for a personal recommendation due to the nature of this issue Ubuntu doesnt work for me.
[01:08] <ozaki> Vic3: can you please install sudo apt-get install nautilus-admin
[01:08] <eaglgenes101> For some reason my sound config always sets itself so that it's constantly louder on the right than on the left
[01:08] <eaglgenes101> Yes, this is even when I manually set it to the middle
[01:08] <eaglgenes101> After a reboot, it's back to blasting my right ear only
[01:08] <Vic3> ozaki - to what end?
[01:09] <leftyfb> Vic3: This isn't the place to get recommendations for distributions other than Ubuntu. Feel free to ask in ##linux
[01:09] <ozaki> Vic3: This will install a  policy to nautilus so if you right click u ll have the option to run as admin a folder
[01:09] <eaglgenes101> I have mostly default config, so I'm pretty sure pulseaudio is at the controls, but how do I tell it that it shouldn't push the volume higher on the right
[01:09] <Vic3> ozaki great
[01:10] <eaglgenes101> The config info I can find only tells me how to set volume for a device, not for each side of a device separately
[01:12] <ozaki> Vic3: Then you ll need to restart nautilis using, nautilus -q
[01:12] <Vic3> ozaki Unable to locate package
[01:13] <eaglgenes101> so um
[01:14] <ozaki> Vic3: how come? You are using the lastest version of ubuntu right?
[01:15] <leftyfb> ozaki: it's part of the universe repo
[01:16] <ozaki> Oh thanks i did not know that
[01:16] <ozaki> So before install nautilis-admin you need to add the universe repo
[01:16] <ozaki> sudo add-apt-repository universe
[01:16] <ozaki> then sudo update
[01:17] <ozaki> and then sudo apt-get install nautilus-admin
[01:19] <Vic3> 14.04 ozaki
[01:20] <Eickmeyer> ozaki: The universe repo is enabled by default in Ubuntu.
[01:20] <ozaki> Eickmeyer: even in live usb?
[01:21] <Eickmeyer> ozaki: I missed that part.
[01:22] <Eickmeyer> ozaki: I think so since most of the official flavor packages come from universe.
[01:25] <vax1> anyone here? first time using IRC
[01:25] <Vic3> no I had to add it ... but still not able to locate nautilus-admin ... so am going to try one of the other live OS's mentioned earlier.  So thanks all for now!  Wish me luck! :)
[01:26] <Eickmeyer> vax1: Welcome! This channel is for support.
[01:26] <Eickmeyer> !chat | vax1
[01:40] <Vic3> Ok this is going to be a lame question but I never have to do it ... how to completely erase or format a usb stick at sdc ?
[01:41] <leftyfb> Vic3: if you use dd or something like etcher.io to flash the usb with another iso, you do not need to partition or format it
[01:41] <leftyfb> Vic3: that said, use gpartd if you just want to format it to copy some files to it
[01:42] <Vic3> ok so if it already has an iso, I can simply dd again with the new iso?
[01:42] <leftyfb> Vic3: I would use etcher.io , but yes
[01:43] <Vic3> ty leftyfb
[01:45] <artyx> Is there a common xrdp gotcha that i'm just missing?  It fails to attach to a locked screen, it fails to spawn a wm
[01:48] <leftyfb> artyx: I would suggest x11vnc or teamviewer
[01:48] <artyx> leftyfb: Based on ease of setup or some performance thing?
[01:49] <leftyfb> artyx: both, and the fact that RDP is a Windows protocol which wasn't designed for linux OS's
[01:56] <ub3g33k> hard to beat teamviewer, and it's ability to punch through NAT
[01:58] <leftyfb> ub3g33k: it's not punching through anything. It's a tunneled service
[01:59] <ub3g33k> It's a colloquilism...  ie, you don't need to do any port forwarding in order to have remote access to machines
[01:59] <ub3g33k> It essentially "Punches through NAT", via a tunnel :)
[02:00] <leftyfb> ub3g33k: no, it's not. It's not a direct connection between 2 parties. The remote teamviewer service acts as a middle-man for a tunneled connection.
[02:00] <ub3g33k> leftyfb: Yes, I know exactly how teamviewer works.  Thanks.
[02:01] <leftyfb> ub3g33k: Then please do not misrepresent how it works to other who don't know better.
[02:01] <ub3g33k> The colloquial expression still works, and is easy to say than explaining the technical details everytime you want to say how well it works, without opening firewall holes
[02:01] <ub3g33k> :/
[02:01] <ub3g33k> It's an expression, it's not misleading.
[02:02] <hggdh> enough floks
[02:02] <hggdh> *folks
[02:02] <ub3g33k> But, I suppose I'll cede to your technical expertise.  You are very smart.
[02:02] <hggdh> ub3g33k: enough
[02:11]  * mKay_005 looking around...
[02:14] <justaddcoffee> hello again just wondering what options (recent ones) are where opening rar files, terminal is fine so is gui
[02:14] <justaddcoffee> was thinking sudo apt-get install unrar, are there any other options
[02:14] <leftyfb> justaddcoffee: doubleclick? unrar, unrar-free
[02:16] <justaddcoffee> using a version based on debian but not 'ubuntu' what does ubuntu use by default
[02:16] <justaddcoffee> im on parrot atm and dont really wna reboot logout
[02:17] <leftyfb> justaddcoffee: sorry, we only support ubuntu here
[02:17] <justaddcoffee> okay
[02:17] <justaddcoffee> thanks all the same
[03:10] <OneManHateGroup> OMG... I can't install packages because of dpkg not being able to remove android-androresolvd.... I have read all of the posts that I could find about fixing broken packages, but I cannot get rid of "held" packages
[03:11] <OneManHateGroup> Please tell me what outputs I need to pastebin so that I can get pointed in the right direction.
[03:12] <Bashing-om> OneManHateGroup: A start is to see ' sudo apt update ; sudo apt full-upgrade ' in a pastebin.
[03:14] <OneManHateGroup> aight
[03:16] <OneManHateGroup> apt-get update https://pastebin.com/rnGaEAU3
[03:16] <fosslinux> OneManHateGroup: pastbin of apt-get -f install
[03:16] <fosslinux> please
[03:17] <OneManHateGroup> apt-get upgrade https://pastebin.com/jXwX1dvh
[03:19] <Bashing-om> OneManHateGroup: "jessie" - you need to be talking to debian.
[03:20] <OneManHateGroup> aight
[03:21] <OneManHateGroup> I'm actually on Devuan
[03:21] <OneManHateGroup> thanks y'all
[03:38] <Ic3tea> quit
[04:08] <linuxterm> hello
[04:08] <linuxterm> anyone see this message
[04:08] <jack> ?
[04:08] <pntaylor> linuxterm: erm, yes
[04:08] <jack> hi+yes
[04:09] <linuxterm> i am running ubuntu on my android phone
[04:10] <jack> cool
[04:11] <linuxterm> i sent the message to see if hexchat would work
[04:11] <jack> apparently it does
[04:13] <linuxterm> i kg
[04:14] <linuxterm> i guess i can use hexchat
[04:20] <atheodo> hi
[04:22] <lotuspsychje> welcome atheodo
[04:46] <paul___> hello
[04:48] <paul___> hello
[04:56] <Randune> hi all...I'm looking for a good reliable raid controller for linux (ubuntu) so I can run a raid 1 on it..(only 2 drives)..anyone have any suggestions? I'm thinking either an ASM1061R based card, or an LSI card potentially
[04:56] <Randune> *kubuntu
[04:57] <Eickmeyer> Randune: I have no idea, but I'd suggest checking in ##hardware.
[04:58] <Randune> awesome..thanks!
[04:58] <\dev\cache> hi anyone around here setup a vpn server on ubuntu?
[04:59] <Eickmeyer> \dev\cache: I've done it, but only in a docker image. I could link you to a guide if that's the route you might go.
[04:59] <paul___> hello world
[05:00] <Eickmeyer> paul___: Do you have a support question?
[05:00] <paul___> im lost
[05:00] <Eickmeyer> !chat | paul___
[05:00] <paul___> how do Iknow if a chan is full?
[05:01] <Eickmeyer> paul___: That would be a question to ask #freenode. I don't think channels typically are full, though.
[05:02] <paul___> where is the pane that lists the users?
[05:02] <Eickmeyer> paul___: That depends on your IRC client.
[05:02] <paul___> im using polari
[05:02] <Eickmeyer> paul___: That's something I know about. In the upper-right-hand corner you'll see a number. Click on that. That's your user list.
[05:04] <paul___> ty
[05:09] <\dev\cache> Eickmeyer: im scared of using docker lmao
[05:09] <asphyxia> hi friends, any simple tricks to get 18.04 waking from suspend on any key?
[05:10] <asphyxia> I can't find any fixes online except for two with like one upvote on SO
[05:19] <guiverc> asphyxia, i don't know, but I suspect it's hardware specific.  I have boxes that will wake on key-press on 'live' images (qa-testing), yet other boxes require power button to achieve same thing (unless it's ps2/usb or something I didn't notice)
[05:46] <gott> I managed to run "apt purge"
[05:46] <gott> Things are behaving wierd...
[06:00] <dude> hello?
[06:01] <guiverc> dude, if you have a Ubuntu Support question, ask it (try and keep to a single line if possible, pastebinit if necessary, and be patient waiting for a repsonse, people will respond when they can)
[06:01] <dude> how do you download minecraft on ubuntu?
[06:01] <dude> thats m
[06:01] <dude> My*
[06:02] <dude> question
[06:02] <guiverc> gott, 'weird' isn't very descriptive; more details may help people to understand your issue & better respond
[06:04] <guiverc> dude, a quick (startpage) search yielded loads of responses, the only official one I saw was https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallMinecraft147  (rather old) & a few snaps available in snapstore; but I know nothing about minecraft sorry
[07:44] <jiggawattz> I vote for Elusive Eel
[07:44] <jiggawattz> for 19.10
[07:44] <jiggawattz> has that been decided yet ?
[08:06] <lotuspsychje> !rootirc | seliot_u-1991
[08:15] <seliot-u-1991> [/\]
[08:15] <seliot-u-1991> mr.robot eliot where are u now?
[08:20] <niee_> hi folks, anyone to help me please? how to control my cpu fun. any program or script ? my temp is very high
[08:20] <lotuspsychje> niee_: what temp is your cpu?
[08:21] <niee_> 90 C`
[08:21] <lotuspsychje> niee_: then something else is wrong, not ubuntu related
[08:21] <lotuspsychje> niee_: you might wanna open your computer and see whats going on, check bios fan control
[08:22] <guiverc> niee_, i'd check your bios; i've a box which allows BIOS setting to override OS control of fan (so as to make box quiet, it's a problem though in summer)
[08:22] <guiverc> (a 2nd to lotuspsychje's suggestion)
[08:23] <lotuspsychje> niee_: vacuum clean cpu fan might also be a good idea
[08:24] <niee_> yes. i clean and change termal past. ok.
[08:26] <niee_> guiverc, I think it will not be the bioS to control the blades. this is an old model laptop
[08:26] <gt8ost4l> does anybody know hoe to delete a app installed by ubuntu make?
[08:27] <gt8ost4l> how*
[08:33] <Faris> gt8ost4l, maybe that makefile has a "uninstall" or "remove" task?
[08:36] <gt8ost4l> Faris: link?
[08:47] <guiverc> gt8ost4l, `make` implies to me compile from source; as Faris suggested you need to check the source you are using to see if it has an uninstall step; otherwise you just reverse it's 'make'  (which means you need to look at what how it installed; the programmer will decide how this was done)
[10:45] <jack> what nickname does 18.10 have?
[10:45] <jack> was that "cosmic"?
[10:46] <mwsb> Yeah, Cosmic Cuttlefish
[10:46] <jack> k, thx :)
[10:47] <jack> what's next? diabolic dingo?
[10:47] <jack> or drowsy donkey
[10:48] <mwsb> Disco Dingo
[10:48] <jack> oh ok - thx
[10:48] <jack> previous e was edgy eft, iirc
[10:49] <jack> but this time?
[10:49] <jack> extatic empath? :P
[10:50] <mwsb> 19.10 hasn't been named yet as far as I am aware
[10:50] <jack> ok
[10:50] <jack> we'll see :)
[10:57] <pkunk> How do I configure netplan to work in "server mode". i.e interfaces are expected to be Always up if they are detected
[10:57] <pkunk> I would like to disable the link detection so that any configured interfaces are always assigned IP's. This is a server so I know how to handle the routing etc.
[11:00] <tomreyn> /join #ubuntu-server
[11:08] <BluesKaj> Howdy folks
[11:13] <JonelethIrenicus> how can i remove a software source and all its packages?
[11:13] <JonelethIrenicus> not a ppa
[11:23] <BluesKaj> !purge
[11:23] <BluesKaj> wrong!
[11:24] <BluesKaj> !apt purge
[11:34] <tomreyn> !ppa-purge | JonelethIrenicus
[11:35] <tomreyn> i think you can use it with non PPAs by specifying -s, -o and -p
[11:43] <JonelethIrenicus> tomreyn: so ppa purge can remove software sources that aren't PPAs?
[11:43] <JonelethIrenicus> talking specifically about my CUDA software source from nvidia for 16.04
[11:43] <JonelethIrenicus> after i upgraded i still had the debs installed
[11:43] <JonelethIrenicus> now it is giving me issues so i was trying to remove everything it installed
[11:43] <BluesKaj> so can apt purge packagename
[11:44] <JonelethIrenicus> ok
[11:44] <JonelethIrenicus> BluesKaj: know an easy way to get a list of packages in the software source?
[11:44] <JonelethIrenicus> even better packages installed
[11:46] <BluesKaj> apt list , but there might less verbose options with that command
[11:46] <BluesKaj> be
[11:47] <BluesKaj> JonelethIrenicus, or your gui package manager
[11:47] <JonelethIrenicus> BluesKaj: hmm ok i will try and figure it out
[11:49] <JonelethIrenicus> BluesKaj: thanks
[11:49] <BluesKaj> np, hope you find what you're looking for
[12:22] <pa> hi
[12:22] <pa> apt-get -f install wants to remove a package
[12:22] <pa> because it has unmet deps
[12:23] <pa> how can i put that package in ignore?
[12:23] <lotuspsychje> pa: did you add external ppa's to your system?
[12:23] <pa> so that it doesnt get removed && doesn't make apt complain
[12:23] <pa> lotuspsychje: perhaps. but i installed this package manually
[12:23] <pa> ignoring deps or somehting i dont remember
[12:23] <pa> the pkg works as expected, so i'd like to leave it there
[12:23] <lotuspsychje> pa: check your sources.list first, cleanout external ppa's with !ppapurge
[12:24] <lotuspsychje> !sources | pa
[12:24] <leftyfb> pa: which package? Please pastebin the entire error message after running apt-get install -f
[12:25] <pa> http://paste.debian.net/1077455/
[12:25] <pa> if i run apt-get -f install, it wants to remove that package
[12:25] <pa> and nothing else
[12:25] <leftyfb> pa: please pastebin the ENTIRE message
[12:25] <pa> that is the entire message
[12:26] <leftyfb> pa: what version of ubuntu?
[12:26] <pa> http://paste.debian.net/1077456/
[12:26] <pa> leftyfb: it's a 14.04 where i manually installed (dpkg) this package from a newer version.
[12:26] <leftyfb> pa: apt-cache policy libqt5core5a
[12:27] <pa> as i wrote, the pkg works just fine
[12:27] <leftyfb> right
[12:27] <leftyfb> there's your problem
[12:27] <leftyfb> the package should be removed
[12:27] <pa> so i'd like to keepit
[12:27] <pa> put it in some sort of ignore
[12:28] <leftyfb> pa: libqt5core5a 5.9 isn't supported on 14.04.
[12:28] <leftyfb> pa: also, 14.04 will be unsupported in 2 weeks
[12:28] <lotuspsychje> !mix | pa
[12:28] <pa> it's true, but it's also unneeded
[12:28] <pa> i mean
[12:28] <pa> the pkg depends on that  thing
[12:28] <pa> but even if i did not install it, it works as expected
[12:29] <leftyfb> pa: what package relies on libqt5core5a 5.9?
[12:29] <pa> breeze-gtk-theme
[12:29] <lotuspsychje> !info breeze-gtk-theme trusty
[12:29] <pa> that is why i backported it
[12:30] <leftyfb> pa: that's not backported
[12:30] <pa> well, in the sense i installed a version for a later ubuntu release
[12:30] <leftyfb> pa: you're running an unsupported package on a soon to be unsupported version of ubuntu
[12:30] <pa> this is true. The question, however, is, how to ignore a package that apt thinks is conflicting in this way
[12:31] <pa> is it possible?
[12:31] <leftyfb> pa: I would highly suggest you forget about trying to get an unsupported theme to work on your install and focus on getting it upgraded to something that will be supported for a while. At least 16.04, but I'd recommend 18.04
[12:32] <pa> leftyfb: the unsupported theme works just fine, as i wrote above
[12:32] <lotuspsychje> pa: apt wants to do the right think by default, if you do something youre not supposed to, apt will try to fix
[12:32] <pa> so everything is fine with the system, i just want to silence apt
[12:33] <blackflow> pa: you modified the .deb?
[12:33] <leftyfb> pa: everything is fine with your system(it's not) so you want to break apt?
[12:33] <pa> lotuspsychje: that is true, i'm not swearing against apt
[12:33] <pa> blackflow: hmmm.. perhaps.. i can't remember now..
[12:33] <blackflow> pa: you said you backported
[12:34] <blackflow> did you build a .deb or by "backported" you mean you pulled in from another repo
[12:34] <pa> i think i removed some deps? i am not sure, let me see if i still have it in /tmp
[12:34] <leftyfb> blackflow: they installed the dpkg manually. For some reason they consider that "backported"
[12:34] <blackflow> oh
[12:34] <blackflow> yeah, no. if you modified the .deb and built it, it has the "Provides" directive which could solve your issue
[12:34] <blackflow> (which is not supported here in #ubuntu, just saying you have that option)
[12:35] <leftyfb> pa: By installing they theme, you have broken your system. Apt is constantly trying to repair it and you want to prevent apt from doing so. Sorry, you're not going to get help with that here. Good luck
[12:35] <blackflow> pa: build a snap of it instead
[12:35] <raver> Yep broken apt system is bad
[12:36] <lotuspsychje> pa: and as leftyfb stated, instead of playing on 14.04 still, try to upgrade/clean install a newer ubuntu version
[12:36] <raver> Why not extract deb content and install by hand
[12:36] <pa> lotuspsychje: im trying to do that too
[12:36] <leftyfb> raver: please don't
[12:36] <blackflow> raver: no. build a snap of it, if you have to build something "by hand"
[12:36] <lotuspsychje> pa: its reccomended before you upgrade, you dont have apt issues
[12:36] <raver> Ok
[12:36] <raver> Snap is new to me
[12:36] <blackflow> building a snap should be a breeze. https://docs.snapcraft.io/snap-documentation/3781
[12:37] <lotuspsychje> pa: so just forget your breeze theme, upgrade then play again on xenial/bionic
[12:37] <leftyfb> blackflow: I don't think building a snap for 14.04 is the best use of resources
[12:37] <raver> Mostly i get the source and compile by my own if there aren't any good ppa
[12:37] <raver> Thx
[12:37] <blackflow> tough crowd.   ahem.....   building a snap (of breeze gtk theme)    should be a BREEZE.   get it? no? hmm?   bah.
[12:37] <lotuspsychje> lol
[12:38] <blackflow> leftyfb: well snaps are crossplatform so usable on any 'buntu version
[12:38] <pa> blackflow: cant find that deb anymre. Probably it's not this one i repackaged
[12:38] <leftyfb> blackflow: not on 14.04 in 2 weeks
[12:38] <blackflow> leftyfb: but exactly the same snap is installable on xenial or bionic, my point.
[12:38] <blackflow> as in, it's not a waste of anything.
[12:39] <pa> now i found it
[12:39] <pa> no i havent changed it
[12:39] <pa> i could do it
[12:39] <pa> let me double check that approach you mentioned :-)
[12:39] <leftyfb> blackflow: xenial and bionic already have the breeze-gtk-theme available. No need to build a snap for it
[12:39] <pa> (thanks btw)
[12:39]  * leftyfb sigh
[12:39] <blackflow> leftyfb: oh I thought they needed a custom package
[12:39] <leftyfb> the lengths people go to to do the wrong thing
[12:40] <pa> leftyfb: relax.. 14.04 is unsupported in 2 weeks anyway
[12:40] <lotuspsychje> blackflow: no he was installing breeze from another ubuntu version, from who knows where
[12:40] <pa> from packages.ubuntu.com, ofc
[12:40] <pa> where else
[12:41] <blackflow> pa: I think lotuspsychje meant "who knows which ubuntu release"
[12:42] <lotuspsychje> no i meant where actually :p
[12:43] <jack> 14.04? was "trusty", right?
[12:43] <leftyfb> also, the package cannot be backported properly anyway, it's only available in the universe repos in bionic and newer
[12:43] <leftyfb> jack: yes
[12:43] <lotuspsychje> jack: is, yes
[12:45] <etronik> Hi all, my xfce session under 18.04 LTS started showing me two blank screens on my 2 monitors / how do I recover from that  ? TIA
[12:45] <pa> blackflow: thank you :-*
[12:45] <pa> just editing control was enough actually
[12:46] <pa> ah shit... i have to re-modify the theme though
[12:46] <blackflow> mind your klingon pls.
[12:47] <etronik> ahah "mind your klingon".. love it !
[12:49] <pa> done
[12:49] <pa> yeah that togglebutton-active.png was killing my eyes
[13:07] <etronik> 18.04 is really bad vs 16.04 for watching streaming video - lots of stutters that were totally absent on 16.04 - any way to improve this on 18.04 saving from going back to 16.04 ?
[13:08] <leftyfb> etronik: install the proper video drivers
[13:09] <etronik> I only have that integrated Intel video chip...
[13:09] <etronik> not sure if specific drivers exist for them
[13:12] <BluesKaj> etronik, which player ?
[13:12] <etronik> I dunno, integrated into browser... youtubes, etc
[13:13] <etronik> different players I guess...
[13:14] <BluesKaj> does it stutter with vlc playing a video on you drive?
[13:14] <BluesKaj> your
[13:14] <BluesKaj> not in a browser
[13:18] <etronik> hmm haven't tried that actually
[13:19] <etronik> but it was not the network if you want to exclude that...
[13:19] <etronik> because from gnome to xfce... it improved quite a bit
[13:20] <BluesKaj> the internet has to be eliminated tho
[13:20] <jack> heh
[13:21] <etronik> ok, so I was not getting any stuuters on my tablet for example... for the very same content, on the same day
[13:22] <jack> etronik: my first idea would be to renice the browser
[13:22] <jack> might help :)
[13:23] <etronik> why would one need to renice the browser when that was not needed under 16.04 unity ? I mean...
[13:23] <causative> I can't seem to record any sound from my speakers when using Kazam or SimpleScreenRecorder to record a screencast.  tried all different audio inputs on SimpleScreenRecorder, none worked, Kazam has only one choice of audio input which doesn't work
[13:24] <etronik> it was only after I upgraded to 18.04 and noticing the issues that I saw that it's sort of a known issue with gnome... why don't we get  warned before we upgrade ?
[13:24] <causative> oh wait maybe I fixed it
[13:37] <mernilio> Hi, Can anyone say hi to me? .. Just for a test
[13:38] <mernilio> an non-intrusive test
[13:39] <jiggawattz> mernilio: kindly stfu
[13:39] <mernilio> jiggawattz, despite your bad language, thanx!
[13:40] <tomreyn> this is really the place to carry out any testing. please od it elsewhere.
[13:41] <mernilio> I know, this is the core/kernel team...
[13:42] <Invader_Bork> hi, is there a way to get all the wallpapers from the past releases?
[13:42] <tomreyn> not really asupport question, please ask in #ubuntu-offtopic
[13:42] <mernilio> ahh ^^ there is my place to be i suppose
[13:43] <Invader_Bork> tomreyn, i'll move over there then, sorry for ot
[13:44] <tomreyn> no worries.
[13:44] <mernilio> I cant join them? ubuntu-offtopic
[13:45] <mernilio> I dont care so much. You guys are nice also
[13:46] <tomreyn> !ot | mernilio
[13:48] <mernilio> But let me tell you about my biggest consern now. I simply cant get ndiswrappers to work. And i have had it working years ago, but with my spare cisco-wireless skitty network card. I have reached to an end.
[13:49] <mernilio> Not your fault, and i dont want any help. But it is frustrationg.
[13:49] <jeremy31> mernilio: ndiswrapper is garbage
[13:49] <mernilio> jeremy31, I totally agree with you!
[13:50] <jeremy31> mernilio: If there is actually no linux module for that wifi card, get an Intel 7260 wifi
[13:51] <mernilio> I know it's the chipset that matters. And others then that, i think Ralink drivers i used in the past works very well.
[13:55] <mernilio> I bought a Cisco wireless usb-card years ago because it is a major company. I thougth i a was safe, but not... Never again! I probally need to buy a new one with native support from linux.
[13:57] <mernilio> jatt, wb
[14:01] <tomreyn> !chat | mernilio
[14:05] <ill`irie> <3 Ubuntu
[14:11] <ndayalan> I share my phone's internet connection via USB and the state of network is connected, but internet is not working. How to resolve?
[14:12] <tomreyn> !details | ndayalan
[14:13] <donofrio> how do I skip and mask out this time delay? http://paste.opensuse.org/view//57328377 - inxi @ http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/7rZbHCW2Mn/
[14:13] <jlim> whats up
[14:15] <donofrio> and how do I get another account into suders, like I started with user, incase this notebook got stolen, then I create my donofrio account but I cannot do any apt-get without su - user then apt-get....ugh me lol
[14:17] <ndayalan> ubottu: Ubuntu 16.04.6 LTS, I used the command "nmcli device" and it result "ethernet connected".
[14:18] <ducasse> donofrio: just add the user to the sudo group, and it will have sudo privileges
[14:19] <tomreyn> ndayalan: does nmcli also show this interface as configured?
[14:22] <qwerttutytu> zxc
[14:22] <jlim> use ALl
[14:22] <ndayalan> tomreyn: how to check that?
[14:22] <deadrom> hi
[14:22] <donofrio> ducasse, I can but what is weird right now is no-one is listed just "ALL" everywhere, so what magic makes user about to sudo but donofrio cannot?
[14:22] <tomreyn> ndayalan: you open a terminal, type "nmcli" (without the quotatio marks), press enter, and inspect the output.
[14:22] <deadrom> laptop on dock, lid closed: boots, then both external screens go dark. i flip the lid up - device has shut down
[14:23] <deadrom> BIOS is told to init on 1st external, so what the flying fuck is ubuntu doing there
[14:23] <tomreyn> !language | deadrom
[14:23] <jlim> how 19.04? I haven't gotten around to trying it yet.
[14:24] <tomreyn> !ubuntu+1 | jlim
[14:24] <ducasse> deadrom: you should have this line in /etc/sudoers: %sudo   ALL=(ALL:ALL) ALL
[14:24] <deadrom> “There is no such thing as a dirty word. Nor is there a word so powerful, that it's going to send the listener to the lake of fire upon hearing it.” - Frank Zappa
[14:25] <deadrom> ducasse:
[14:25] <deadrom> what?
[14:25] <ndayalan> tomreyn: it output the usage of nmcli command, not regarding the network
[14:25] <jlim> username   ALL=(ALL:ALL) ALL
[14:25] <jlim> should be added
[14:25] <ducasse> deadrom: sorry, bad tab expand
[14:25] <ducasse> donofrio: you should have this line in /etc/sudoers: %sudo   ALL=(ALL:ALL) ALL
[14:25] <leftyfb> donofrio: as you were told, add them to the sudoers group
 ALL=(ALL;ALL) ALL
[14:26] <leftyfb> jlim: that is not how you add a user to the sudoers group
[14:26] <donofrio> I know that, just why can 'user' do it right now when he is not listed in that conf
[14:27] <leftyfb> donofrio: Add them to the sudoers GROUP
[14:27] <donofrio> that's it...I'll check tnx
[14:27] <donofrio> groups = magic lol
[14:27] <donofrio> don't mind me
[14:27] <tomreyn> ndayalan: ah sorry, this must differ on 16.04 then, i tried on 18.04. try "nmcli" + "g", + "n", + "r", + "c" and + "d" then.
[14:28] <tomreyn> !paste| ndayalan
[14:30] <donofrio> ok added me to all groups that user was in, now when I try apt-get from donofrio it says I need to be added to sudoers (but again user is not listed only stock defaults from install)
[14:31] <leftyfb> donofrio: log out and back in
[14:36] <tomreyn> ndayalan: did you actually enable tethering via usb on the phone?
[14:38] <donofrio> leftyfb, logged and then back on and my sudo apt-get still says "donofrio is not listed in suders" (but user is not listed as well, still wondering how that works)
[14:38] <ndayalan> tomreyn: yes and I will paste the result of the command in short while
[14:39] <jeremy31> ndayalan: can you ping 8.8.8.8?
[14:40] <ndayalan> jeremy31: yes
[14:40] <jeremy31> ndayalan: but fails trying to ping google.com
[14:41] <ndayalan> jeremy31: jeremy31 it also ping google.com
[14:44] <ndayalan> pastebinit nmcli g
[14:46] <tomreyn> ndayalan: do you have multiple network connections configured on this computer?
[14:47] <ndayalan> tomreyn: no
[14:47] <miniuser> hello
[14:48] <jack> fakeroot_1.23 fails too
[14:48] <tomreyn> ndayalan: if you only have the usb tethering one but "ping" to both an ipv4 address (8.8.8.8) and a fully qualified domain name (google.omc) works and reports that as many packets were received as there were sent, then there is no problem, and you don't need to post the nmcli output.
[14:49] <jack> Last 15 lines from /home/jack/.cache/Homebrew/Logs/fakeroot/03.patch:
[14:49] <jack> 2019-04-13 16:45:49 +0200
[14:49] <jack> patch < patch-for-wraptmpf-h
[14:49] <jack> patching file wraptmpf.h
[14:49] <jack> Hunk #1 FAILED at 575.
[14:49] <jack> 1 out of 1 hunk FAILED -- saving rejects to file wraptmpf.h.rej
[14:49] <tomreyn> !paste | jack
[14:49] <tomreyn> you were just silenced, sill be able to speak again shortly
[14:49] <tomreyn> !who | jack
[14:50] <jack> :)
[14:50] <jack> https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/mHdXgr2Q98/
[14:51] <maximCH> Hi... I'm trying to automate a ubuntu install using preseed and want to have minimal installation. I do have "ubiquity ubiquity/minimal_install boolean true" in the preseed file but seems that it's still installing everything. Is there someone here that has good experience with preseed installing?
[14:52] <ndayalan> tomreyn: I see the following in browser log - "ERROR:ssl_client_socket_impl.cc(1129)] handshake failed; returned"
[14:53] <tomreyn> ndayalan: an ssl / tls handshake failed, meaning the web browser you're using and the server you had it connect to coul dnot agree on a common encryption scheme.
[14:54] <tomreyn> ndayalan: which web browser are you using? what does     lsb_release -ds   output?
[14:54] <leftyfb> donofrio: what version of ubuntu?
[14:54] <ndayalan> tomreyn: qutebrowser
[14:55] <tomreyn> !info qutebrowser xenial
[14:55] <qweurttuty> how to start usb flash with the option noatime? https://screenshots.firefox.com/0gTXQm6FEIjiST7C/null , https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/49MStCXzhg/
[14:55] <qweurttuty> ubuntu-mate 19
[14:55] <tomreyn> ndayalan: does it work with a supported browser?
[14:56] <ndayalan> tomreyn: lsb_release -ds output: Ubuntu 16.04.6 LTS
[14:56] <tomreyn> ok
[14:56] <tomreyn> ndayalan: try with firefox or chromium-browser
[14:57] <leftyfb> qweurttuty: Ubuntu 19.04 is not released or supported yet
[14:58] <tomreyn> !ubuntu+1
[14:58] <ndayalan> tomreyn: I also checked with w3m, but it result as "Can't load duckduckgo.com"
[14:58] <leftyfb> !ubuntu+1 | qweurttuty
[15:00] <tomreyn> ndayalan: not a very helpful error message, is it? so what about the web browsers i cuggested? if you'd like to use something more light-weight, try curl insteat
[15:00] <tomreyn> *instead
[15:04] <donofrio> leftyfb, pinxi @ http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/7rZbHCW2Mn/
[15:04] <tomreyn> ndayalan: also, what's the output of:  apt-cache policy w3m | grep -i installed:
[15:05] <leftyfb> donofrio: type: groups
[15:05] <donofrio> leftyfb, "user adm cdrom sudo dip plugdev lxd lpadmin sambashare"
[15:06] <leftyfb> donofrio: ok, you're in the sudoers group
[15:06] <ndayalan> tomreyn: it outputs "Installed: 0.5.3-26ubuntu0.2"
[15:06] <donofrio> leftyfb, mybad "donofrio adm cdrom plugdev lxd lpadmin sambashare
[15:06] <leftyfb> donofrio: ok, then as you can see, you're NOT in the sudoers group
[15:06] <donofrio> I'll check that sudo group again...
[15:07] <leftyfb> donofrio: how are you adding yourself to the sudo group?
[15:07] <ndayalan> tomreyn: neither firefox nor chromium installed in my machine
[15:09] <tomreyn> ndayalan: well, you could install them. ;-) is curl installed?
[15:09] <donofrio> leftyfb, that was the missing group (dunno how I missed that one) #facepalm
[15:10] <ndayalan> tomreyn: isn't w3m should work fine?
[15:12] <tomreyn> ndayalan: yes, i'm just preparing to test this in a VM
[15:13] <tomreyn> ndayalan: w3m 'only' gets community support, though, whereas firefox is fully supported by the ubuntu sercurity team
[15:14] <tomreyn> so is curl
[15:14] <qweurttuty> Do you think if I do the same at 18.04, then I will see in the console with command mount for usb flash with the same settings in the disks, will I see the noatime for usb flash?
[15:14] <tomreyn> ndayalan: also wget
[15:14] <tomreyn> !who | qweurttuty
[15:16] <wonderworld> qweurttuty: how do you mount? mount /dev/usbdrive   /home/mnt   ext4   defaults,noatime   0 2 would mount with noatime.
[15:17] <tomreyn> wonderworld: no
[15:17] <tomreyn> that's an fstab line, not a mount command
[15:18] <tomreyn> qweurttuty: the "mount" command would show that a file system was mounted with the "noatime" option, if that was the case. yes.
[15:18] <qweurttuty> won ... did you see my screenshot URL?
[15:19] <wonderworld> sorry, tom is right of course.....
[15:19] <qweurttuty> mount trought program disks
[15:20] <Ekasi> hi all
[15:20] <wonderworld> mount -o defaults,noatime /dev/usbdrive /home/mnt
[15:20] <qweurttuty> https://screenshots.firefox.com/0gTXQm6FEIjiST7C/null
[15:21] <qweurttuty> https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/49MStCXzhg/
[15:21] <Ekasi> am trying to install amd drivers and is giving me prob lams
[15:21] <Ekasi> pls help am using amd HD 5450
[15:22] <tomreyn> !details | hi ekasi
[15:22] <Ekasi> am new here
[15:22] <wonderworld> qweurttuty: hmm, what filesystem is on the usb?
[15:22] <Ekasi> ubottu: ok i will
[15:22] <OerHeks> Ekasi, i have such GPU too, it uses open radeon, that is fine, no need to install anything
[15:22] <qweurttuty> exfat-fuse
[15:23] <Ekasi> ubottu: lol ok
[15:23] <qweurttuty> exfat
[15:23] <tomreyn> Ekasi: is there something which doesn't work properly?
[15:23] <wonderworld> you need to check if exfat-fuse supports noatime
[15:23] <Ekasi> OerHeks: ok think you
[15:24] <OerHeks> exfat-fuse does support noatime.
[15:24] <OerHeks> http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/bionic/man8/mount.exfat-fuse.8.html
[15:25] <qweurttuty> exfat-fuse lazytime?
[15:26] <wonderworld> qweurttuty: you could try to manualy mount from console with -v verbose option and check if you see any errors
 say: exfat-fuse does support noatime
[15:35] <qweurttuty> bug: and incorrect mounting if the name of the USB flash "USB FLASH" https://screenshots.firefox.com/XN5oaLDsbRYbspCv/null
[15:35] <qweurttuty> maybe bug
[15:37] <donofrio> is there a deluser to match adduser?
[15:40] <ducasse> donofrio: tias?
[15:42] <OerHeks> a name in a label..?
[15:42] <OerHeks> err a space in the name of a label?
[15:46] <donofrio> So everytime I reboot my notebook I get a unwanted 5 min delay before the desktop comes up, how do I skip and mask out this time delay? http://paste.opensuse.org/view//57328377 - inxi @ http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/7rZbHCW2Mn/
[15:46] <qweurttuty> name lable for usb flash name: "USB FLASH" two words
[15:49] <qweurttuty> "USB FLASH" trought a space, but mount from media "USB FLASH"- ok
[15:52] <tomreyn> donofrio: once it finished booting, review your systemd journal (journalctl -b) to see what took the "Raise network interfaces" start job so long.
[15:53] <etronik> how do I reset my xfce settings on 18.04 ? I'm getting blank screen upon login
[15:53] <tomreyn> donofrio: also install any pending updates and reboot
[15:54] <tomreyn> etronik: try by recursively deleting ~/.cache first
[15:55] <etronik> tomreyn: will do, thanks, might that affect other stuff or is exclusively xfce?
[15:56] <tomreyn> etronik: this might affect other stuff in that it may take a bit longer to start the next (one) time.
[15:57] <tomreyn> i don't know exactly where xfce stores its configuration (probably somewhere in ~/config/). unless someone else knows here, you could also ask in #xubuntu. or create a new user account, login using this new account, then compare its ~/.config to that of your previously existing account
[15:59] <etronik> tomreyn: so I deleted xfce4 under .cache and... now upon login I have... a momentary black window for less than a second, then I'm back at the login window again
[16:00] <tomreyn> etronik: so this doesn't seem to have fixed it, yet, i'd say, and you need to consider the other options i suggested.
[16:01] <etronik> asking in xfce
[16:09] <donofrio> tomreyn, it's an ethernet check I believe and I'll never be using this ibook on hardline
[16:12] <tomreyn> donofrio: what does "use on hardline" mean (i fouy mea "regular use", how is this relevant here)?
[16:12] <tomreyn> *if you
[16:16] <tomreyn> donofrio: see also https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PowerPCFAQ
[16:17] <donofrio> ethernet wire = hardline.... the issue is the ethernet is tyring to get dhcp address for 5 min "dhclient[835]: DHCPDISCOVER on enP1p32s15f0 to 255.255.255.255 port 67 interval 17 (xid=0x61583f9)"
[16:17] <donofrio> I guess I should ask, what command would turn off enP1p32s15f0 till I turn it back on
[16:19] <tomreyn> you could configure it statically in network manager, or disable this NIC there.
[16:19] <donofrio> nothing like redhat has - ifcfg enp1p32s15f0 down?
[16:21] <analogical> I want me some 19.04 right now!
[16:21] <OerHeks> analogical, you can, 19.04 beta
[16:21] <OerHeks> !19.04
[16:22] <donofrio> analogical, "soon'ish" - it's the 20.04 release next year I look forward to...
[16:26] <donofrio> tomreyn, no need to assign it an ip (it's already getting one after 5 min timeout "avahi-autoipd(enP1p32s15f0)[1177]: Successfully claimed IP address 169.254.6.107") looking for "how do I disable enP1p32s15f0?"
[16:27] <pragmaticenigma> donofrio: tomreyn already told you how to disable it... that's all there is to offer
[16:27] <donofrio> oh and "hardline" is a matrix reference....
[16:28] <pragmaticenigma> donofrio: Understand that not everyone is familiar with pop culture references. It is best to call things by their actual names to avoid confusion
[16:30] <donofrio> pragmaticenigma, you guys use gui too much, real (at least for now - proper answer should have been "sudo ifconfig enP1p32s15f0 down") just sayin ;)
[16:31] <pragmaticenigma> donofrio: ifconfig is deprecated in later versions of Ubuntu. that is why it wasn't offered
[16:31] <www-isbuu-com> http://www.isbuu.com problem help mi
[16:31] <donofrio> depricated....ugh so it's an ifaddr switch now?
[16:32] <qwebirc94826> How can i make an excecutable file to run a terminal command?
[16:32] <pragmaticenigma> www-isbuu-com: Please ask your question in the main chat here. If you need to supply additional system information or logs, we ask that you use paste.ubuntu.com
[16:33] <pragmaticenigma> qwebirc94826: This is not a programming development channel. Please find a more appropriate channel using !alis
[16:33] <pragmaticenigma> !alis | qwebirc94826
[16:34] <wantedori> !alis
[16:36] <pragmaticenigma> donofrio: If you want to actually learn how to do things in way that you prefer, then you should start researching and looking up documentation. This channel is to help people with the least amount of friction. That often entails using a GUI interface to make system changes. If you desire to stay within the confines of the terminal, then you're better off asking CLI based questions in the #ubuntu-server channel.
[16:37] <donofrio> understood....
[16:40] <boris666> Hi
[16:41] <OerHeks> :-)
[16:42] <boris666> lol
[16:45] <boris666> e
[16:48] <ogabek_> m
[16:49] <watchdog> test
[17:00] <donofrio> even with an autoset ip assigned to the interface it's still stalling on restart ;(
[17:01] <donofrio> just says "A start job is running for Raise network interfaces (2min 39s/5min 15s)
[17:02] <tomreyn> i told you this an hour ago: <tomreyn> donofrio: once it finished booting, review your systemd journal (journalctl -b) to see what took the "Raise network interfaces" start job so long.
[17:08] <cyp3d> does ubuntu 18.04 LTS have a good snap corner?
[17:08] <cyp3d> seems like default is only half of the vertical
[17:08] <cyp3d> needs quarters
[17:08] <pragmaticenigma> !enter | cyp3d
[17:10] <pragmaticenigma> cyp3d: This channel is intended to provide support for Ubuntu and it's flavors. For recommendations and polls, please consider using #ubuntu-offtopic. Also, google returns this result: https://askubuntu.com/a/1089033
[17:11] <cyp3d> sorry & thanks pragmaticenigma
[17:19] <Delerium> Good afternoon guys - hoping I have an easy one... I've just upgraded my home ubuntu server to Bionic Beaver but since the upgrade all programs will not accept incoming connections (apache, mysql.. even teamviewer). I have disabled ufw and this has no impact. I can actually ssh into the box without an issue. Really pulling my hair out at this stage - anyone have any pointers?
[17:19] <pragmaticenigma> Delerium: You may need to check the config files of those application/daemons. MySQL default config does not allow external connections. I'm not certain about apache though
[17:20] <pragmaticenigma> Delerium: Also, there is #ubuntu-server channel which may provide better support for your situation. This channel tends to focus mostly on the Desktop side
[17:20] <Delerium> yes you're right about the config files - these did reset and i thought i'd fixed them.
[17:21] <Delerium> its very odd that the teamviewer install (even when uninstalled and reinstalled) does not respond either though
[17:21] <Delerium> (Appreciate your hint on the other channel as well - will try there)
[17:22] <pragmaticenigma> Delerium: If using packages, make sure to -purge them ... sometimes old config files might be sprinkled else where
[17:24] <fakezx> is anyone there?
[17:24] <pragmaticenigma> Delerium: If you have a spare machine or virtual machine, I would spin that up with a fresh install and see if it also has issues
[17:24] <pragmaticenigma> !ask | fakezx
[17:26] <atheodo> hi
[17:26] <atheodo> i am having a bit of trouble with installing mysql on my ubuntu box
[17:26] <pragmaticenigma> !ask  | atheodo
[17:26] <atheodo> i dont get a prompt to choose a root password
[17:27] <fakezx> ok got that
[17:27] <atheodo> so when I try to get in the server, I am locked out
[17:27] <pragmaticenigma> atheodo: MySQL comes configured to not use a password on root. This is by design to harden the server against remote attacks.
[17:27] <atheodo> so when it asks for root password, do i just hit enter after install
[17:27] <pragmaticenigma> atheodo: no
[17:27] <Delerium> pragmaticenigma: whats your thinking with a fresh install - seems a little extreme at this stage?
[17:27] <Zuverink> Ive got an issue with my bootsplash. While booting it displays only purple, no logo, though it displays correctly son shutdown. Is there someone who can help me?
[17:28] <pragmaticenigma> Delerium: That's why i recommended on spare hardware or in a vm... just a verification
[17:29] <pragmaticenigma> atheodo: you login via "sudo mysql" and then create a new user with your desired password.
[17:29] <atheodo> i did secure install afterwards, set a password but it still won't let me in
[17:29] <atheodo> just sudo mysql no qualifiers after install
[17:29] <pragmaticenigma> atheodo: Mysql server is also bound to 127.0.0.1 by default. You have to modify the configuration to 0.0.0.0 if you want to access mysql server from another machine
[17:30] <pragmaticenigma> Zuverink: Does the machine boot?
[17:30] <pragmaticenigma> Zuverink: That is, are you able to get to the desktop and use your applications?
[17:30] <atheodo> if i do ssh from another machine, does that account as remote, or local?
[17:30] <atheodo> i thought ssh counts as local
[17:31] <Zuverink> pragmaticenigma, It does, its all cosmetic.  Just the bootsplash, once login screen its fine
[17:31] <tomreyn> atheodo: the mysql root account is not the same as the system root account.
[17:32] <atheodo> ok,
[17:32] <atheodo> will do a fresh install and will try that
[17:32] <atheodo> also want to install appache
[17:32] <pragmaticenigma> Zuverink: You could tinker with it, but that might lead to other issues. I would just use the machine if it were me. The issue is the modesetting isn't happening fast enough at boot or not being detected properly by the kernel and thus Ubuntu is unable to render the image. The fix is to setup grub to have the screen size. Minor issue of this is if you change screen sizes, add monitors, things to start to act weird
[17:32] <tomreyn> atheodo: you can run this as a normal (restricted) system user to access a mysql server as mysql user 'root': mysql -u root      if you need to authenticate with a password, add the -p option to this command.
[17:33] <pragmaticenigma> tomreyn: MySQL default setup doesn't allow root login without running mysql as root user.
[17:33] <pragmaticenigma> tomreyn: mysql-client that is
[17:34] <Zuverink> pragmaticenigma, again all cosmetic and I agree its not worth it. THank you.
[17:34] <fakezx> is anyone fimiliar with qemu?
[17:34] <jarn> !ask
[17:35] <fakezx> i've got some troblem of setting bridge network in qemu.i dont know how to configure it.
[17:35] <ceibal> hola
[17:36] <pragmaticenigma> !es | ceibal
[17:36] <ceibal> necesito ayuda
[17:36] <ceibal> los zomvis bienen
[17:42] <ckopn> hi, Is there small mp3 player like winamp and not snap?
[17:42] <wondows> man my cursor is randomly freezing... this is unnaceptable
[17:43] <ckopn> or maybe with cli ?
[17:44] <ckopn> I have to save memory of laptop
[17:47] <ckopn> nvlc file.mp3 # vlc can do it!
[17:47] <raver> wondows: Yea I experienced this issue to on an Lenovo ThinkPad
[17:47] <tomreyn> ckopn: music123, mpg123, mpg321, gst123, mplayer, cvlc. xmms2 for graphical output.
[17:48] <lotuspsychje> or oldskool amarok
[17:48] <OerHeks> https://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2010/12/omg-5-five-lightweight-music-players
[17:48] <wondows> raver: sad
[17:48] <ckopn> thanks
[17:48] <wondows> it's so sad software can't be nearly perfect
[17:48] <lotuspsychje> wondows: this is not the complain channel
[17:49] <ducasse> ckopn: try cmus
[17:49] <lotuspsychje> wondows: if you have an ubuntu issue, please elaborate your problem
[17:49] <wondows> lotuspsychje: I already stated the problem, but I don't think there can be a solution really
[17:49] <wondows> gotta learn to live with it
[17:50] <\dev\cache> i know this question might be frowned upon has anyone in here setup openvpn server on ubuntu?
[17:50] <lotuspsychje> wondows: a cursor does not have an own life, if something is freezing there's a deeper cause
[17:51] <ducasse> \dev\cache: is that your actual question?
[17:52] <tomreyn> pragmaticenigma: mysqld 5.6 did, maybe my info is outdated.
[17:52] <wondows> lotuspsychje: most certainly a very very deep cause that's just too difficult to understand
[17:53] <ducasse> wondows: try looking at your logs at the time it freezes
[17:54] <raver> Which logs?
[17:54] <raver> X11?
[17:55] <ducasse> i'd start with the system logs
[17:56] <wondows> what is the complain channel?
[17:56] <ducasse> wondows: #test
[17:57] <cryptodan_mobile> Heat can cause a system freeze
[17:57] <SimonNL>    ^  o/\
[18:02] <SehyoPHd> Hi guys
[18:02] <lotuspsychje> welcome SehyoPHd
[18:02] <SehyoPHd> How are you doing?
[18:02] <lotuspsychje> SehyoPHd: good, how can we help you today?
[18:03] <SehyoPHd> I am getting ./program permission denied error,
[18:03] <SehyoPHd> Do you know a good way to solve this?
[18:04] <pragmaticenigma> wondows: The volunteers here are attempting to help you, but you also need to help them by providing and following the instructions they offer. If you need further help on that, you need to ask
[18:04] <ducasse> SehyoPHd: we need to know the command you're trying to run
[18:04] <lotuspsychje> SehyoPHd: could you detail a bit more wich program you trying to run
[18:04] <wondows> ducasse: where are the logs?
[18:04] <SehyoPHd> wait
[18:04] <ducasse> wondows: use 'journalctl'
[18:04] <SehyoPHd> My friend told me
[18:04] <SehyoPHd> I can use command
[18:05] <SehyoPHd> sudo chmod -R 777 /
[18:05] <SehyoPHd> and it will work
[18:05] <SehyoPHd> I will try it
[18:05] <ducasse> SehyoPHd: don't
[18:05] <SehyoPHd> ?
[18:06] <ducasse> SehyoPHd: you don't set every file on the system to 777, that is a horrible 'solution'
[18:06] <SehyoPHd> why
[18:06] <tatertots> lol
[18:06] <SehyoPHd> It was a recommended answer on stackoverflow aswell
[18:06] <ducasse> well, it's a horrible idea, the permissions are there for a reason
[18:07] <SehyoPHd> the command is there for a reason too..
[18:07] <ducasse> chmod?
[18:07] <tatertots> using a shotgun to kill house flies doesn't mean you won't kill at least 1x fly LOL
[18:07] <ducasse> if so, not that reason.
[18:08] <SehyoPHd> I think I know what I am talking about
[18:08] <lordcirth_> SehyoPHd, there are very few times where setting something 777 is a good idea, let alone -R
[18:08] <SehyoPHd> I have a PhD in computer science
[18:08] <tatertots> lmbo
[18:08] <ducasse> SehyoPHd: you obviosly don't
[18:08] <lordcirth_> SehyoPHd, LOL I work with CS PhD's, I had to help one fix his computer recently
[18:08] <lotuspsychje> tatertots: only ubuntu questions here please
[18:08] <tatertots> lotuspsychje: sorry
[18:08] <hggdh> SehyoPHd: OK. You have made clear you are trolling. Now, please go elsewhere
[18:08] <SehyoPHd> In my time, we did not have permissions.
[18:09] <SehyoPHd> All programming I did was through punchcards that you fed the computer through the front panel
[18:09] <ducasse> SehyoPHd: ok, move on now
[18:09] <hggdh> SehyoPHd: please stop
[18:09] <SehyoPHd> I don't need a baby OS to tell me what I can do
[18:09] <hggdh> okick SehyoPHd enough is enough
[18:09] <tatertots> then just punch card it
[18:11] <hggdh> tatertots: feeding trolls really does not help. Please don't.
[18:13] <wondows> how to change the folder/thumbnail icon size? ctrl+scroll changes it everywhere
[18:14] <pragmaticenigma> wondows: You cannot change an individual icon size, or the view port of a single window
[18:15] <wondows> I mean it changes the whole system
[18:15] <wondows> I wanna change the size in a single folder
[18:16] <pragmaticenigma> wondows: i just told you, it's not possible
[18:16] <fkfm> !isitout
[18:17] <wondows> really? jesus fucking christ...
[18:17] <pragmaticenigma> !ohmy | wondows
[18:30] <_Trullo> why do I get SSL ERROR 61 when connecting to my workplace? The certificate is there
[18:32] <lordcirth_> _Trullo, 'openssl s_client -connect hostname:port'
[18:32] <lordcirth_> That will give you a full breakdown
[18:32] <wondows> ducasse: so I just experienced a freeze and got this in journalctl "gnome-session gave us a dead inhibitor: /org/gnome/SessionManager/Inhibitor1"
[18:32] <_Trullo> hostname is the url I use to connect to the website?
[18:32] <pragmaticenigma> _Trullo: Also, I would reach out to your employer's help desk. That error message indicates an issue on their network, not your local system
[18:33] <pragmaticenigma> _Trullo: coorect
[18:33] <_Trullo> yeah, they changed a certificate and my linux machines went dead..
[18:34] <wondows> nah that actually just seems to happen whenever the poweroff popup appears
[18:34] <pragmaticenigma> _Trullo: That's not something we can support. If you require certificates to access your employers resources, you will have to contact their help desk for assistance.
[18:34] <wondows> I am getting freezes and nothing appears in the logs
[18:35] <_Trullo> it's a citrix error I think mostly, I have to link certs from another dir
[18:36] <pragmaticenigma> _Trullo: Again, that is not something the volunteers in this channel will be able to help you with. You will have to contact your employers help desk.
[18:37] <ducasse> wondows: that makes it really hard to pin down
[18:37] <_Trullo> pragmaticenigma, understood
[18:38] <cryptodan_mobile> wondows: try a live session as a daily and see if you get freezes that will mitigate hard drive as possible causes
[18:55] <Invader_Bork> when trying to show the options for a gnome shell extension in gnome tweaks i get an error about missing Clutter
[18:55] <Invader_Bork> did anyone came across a problem such as this?
[18:56] <lotuspsychje> Invader_Bork: wich extension?
[18:56] <Invader_Bork> https://extensions.gnome.org/extension/1251/blyr/
[18:56] <Invader_Bork> https://github.com/yozoon/gnome-shell-extension-blyr/blob/master/blyr%40yozoon.dev.gmail.com/prefs.js
[18:56] <Invader_Bork> i was digging into it's source code
[18:56] <pragmaticenigma> https://github.com/kylecorry31/gnome-shell-extension-do-not-disturb/issues/23
[18:57] <pragmaticenigma> Invader_Bork: ^ ^
[18:57] <Invader_Bork> maybe it needs libclutter
[18:57] <Invader_Bork> pragmaticenigma, looking at it now
[18:59] <Invader_Bork> seems that problem was fixed by the dev
[19:00] <Invader_Bork> or were you referring to sudo apt-get install gir1.2-clutter-1.0 gir1.2-clutter-gst-3.0 gir1.2-gtkclutter-1.0 specifically?
[19:00] <Invader_Bork> pragmaticenigma ^
[19:00] <ioria> Invader_Bork, probably, yes
[19:01] <pragmaticenigma> Invader_Bork: Yes, I was referring to their attempt at a resolution and the resulting version conflict
[19:02] <Invader_Bork> i'll install those packages and see where i get
[19:02] <ioria> Invader_Bork, if you are on 18.04 ....
[19:02] <Invader_Bork> 19.04
[19:02] <ioria> ah
[19:02] <ioria> should be the same, but not sure
[19:04] <Invader_Bork> the options show up now
[19:04] <pragmaticenigma> cool!
[19:04] <Invader_Bork> pragmaticenigma, thanks for the fix
[19:04] <Invader_Bork> i wonder if those packages are installed by default on other distros
[19:04] <ioria> not the gir's
[19:04] <Invader_Bork> it doesn't mention them as dependencies on the extension page
[19:05] <Invader_Bork> or github
[19:05] <ioria> because it was for 16.10
[19:09] <Invader_Bork> hmm, now is there a way to make the top panel and dock transparent?
[19:10] <OerHeks> top panel? "It's easy to configure top panel transparency via a Gnome Shell extension called Dynamic Top Bar."
[19:10] <OerHeks> https://extensions.gnome.org/extension/885/dynamic-top-bar/
[19:11] <Eickmeyer> OerHeks: That functionality was completely removed with 3.32 (in 19.04).
[19:11] <Eickmeyer> The extension no longer works either.
[19:11] <Eickmeyer> Just FYI.
[19:11] <Invader_Bork> i gues i'll have to edit the theme
[19:11] <OerHeks> oh good, i find no use of such thing
[19:12] <Eickmeyer> Invader_Bork: Yeah, sorry. Upstream GNOME decided to get rid of it.
[19:12] <OerHeks> grinn, why do you ask here, Invader_Bork , as support is strictly in #ubuntu+1?
[19:12] <OerHeks> !19.04
[19:12] <Eickmeyer> !+1
[19:12] <Eickmeyer> Er... that should be a factoid.
[19:13] <lotuspsychje> there is Eickmeyer
[19:13] <OerHeks> !ubuntu+1
[19:13] <Eickmeyer> doh!
[19:13] <Invader_Bork> OerHeks, because i had no idea there was a different channel for upcoming releases
[19:13] <ioria> Invader_Bork, maybe unity still has it
[19:13] <pragmaticenigma> OerHeks: The origins of the question weren't specific to any version of Ubuntu. It wasn't until a solution for the issue that it was learned 19.04 was the version used
[19:14] <lotuspsychje> i found dconf-editor has: org/gnome/shell/dash-to-dock/transparancy-mode options
[19:15] <Eickmeyer> lotuspsychje: No longer works in 19.04.
[19:15] <lotuspsychje> ah tnx for confirm Eickmeyer
[19:17] <Invader_Bork> um, i managed to make it transparent
[19:17] <Invader_Bork> with what lotuspsychje said
[19:18] <Invader_Bork> the path was a bit different org/gnome/shell/extensions/dash-to-dock/transparancy-mode
[19:18] <Eickmeyer> Invader_Bork: Cool. TIL
[19:18] <Invader_Bork> when i changed the value from default to fixed the dock became transparent
[19:18] <lotuspsychje> Invader_Bork: yeah your path is the correct one
[19:18] <Invader_Bork> no blur though
[19:24] <ioria> Invader_Bork, yes, the issue is about the Panel not the Dock
[19:40] <PkuLNX> hello
[19:40] <PkuLNX> there is someone here ??
[19:41] <PkuLNX> ok
[19:41] <Eickmeyer> !ask | PkuLNX
[19:50] <RodageMRQ> Hi.  I wish to get my GRUB updated when i play with my partitions, using gparted, for example.  Actually i do install a dummy Ubuntu to force that.  Any advice please?
[19:51] <OerHeks> grub-update would do that, see the manual
[19:51] <OerHeks> !grub
[20:03] <tomreyn> RodageMRQ: there's update-grub to update the grub menu, grub-install to put the grub boot code into place.
[20:05] <RodageMRQ> tomreyn: Thanks.  Your advice do fit with what i did read but unsure...
[20:06] <RodageMRQ> tomreyn: And to edit Grub?  any idea?
[20:06] <tomreyn> RodageMRQ: define "edit grub"
[20:08] <tomreyn> mabe describe the greater context, your use case, if it helps.
[20:08] <RodageMRQ> tomreyn: Like for the first line of choices when i boot.  It shows only Ubuntu without the partition ID.  Plus, i would like to add info like (as) the label i choose for the partitiion.
[20:09] <RodageMRQ> tomreyn: Plz dont hesitate to tell me if my questions are ambigous(not clear)
[20:09] <tomreyn> you would like to change the text grub displays for menu options?
[20:09] <RodageMRQ> tomreyn: precisely.
[20:10] <tomreyn> update-grub is a script which puts together the menu and these texts from various sources. have a look at it and it will explain how you can change the text displayed.
[20:12] <Bashing-om> RodageMRQ: Lots one can change for grub; you may find : https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MaintenanceFreeCustomGrub2Screen of interest.
[20:12] <tomreyn> actually update-grub calls grub-mkconfig, which is a script.
[20:13] <RodageMRQ> tomreyn: Looks very clear.  On it.  Thanks alot :)
[20:13] <RodageMRQ> Bashing-om: Thanks to you.
[20:17] <bernyrd> hello
[20:17] <bernyrd> I run memtest86+
[20:17] <bernyrd> but at 64G of RAM it fails, keeps constantly reporting errors
[20:18] <bernyrd> the error count quickly goes to 32767 and then rolls over
[20:18] <bernyrd> test does not progress
[20:19] <Mead> bernyrd: you might want to go to ##hardware for the best help,  that isn't really a ubuntu specific problem
[20:21] <tomreyn> the GPL'd memtest86+ version which comes with ubuntu lacks support for some modern hardware configurations.
[20:22] <tomreyn> https://www.memtest.org/ "LAST UPDATE : 27/09/2013"
[20:24] <bernyrd> this is older hw
[20:24] <bernyrd> runs libreboot
[20:26] <OerHeks> memtest.org <> memtest86.com
[20:27] <OerHeks> memtest is pretty up2date, https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/memtest86+
[20:28] <tomreyn> OerHeks: apt show memtest86+ | grep ^Homepage
[20:29] <tomreyn> it's version 5.0.1 from memtest.org (plus debian / ubuntu patches, I guess)
[20:29] <OerHeks> ah oke
[20:30] <OerHeks> not sure why that machine runs libreboot, but oke
[20:31] <OerHeks> and older hardware, maybe it does not support more than 32 gb, that looks like it
[20:32] <atheodo> hi I am back,
[20:32] <atheodo> I did it
[20:32] <atheodo> it works beatiful now
[20:32] <atheodo> i was making a big mistake installing a second instance and then everything was getting messed up,
[20:33] <atheodo> i build the box from scratch, and i installed the database so I am all good now finally :-)
[20:33] <cryptodan_mobile> OerHeks: from memtest.org support of 2tb ram https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/THfjyxQC/Screenshot_20190413-203210_Chrome.jpg
[20:33] <OerHeks> cryptodan_mobile, sure, but his mobo might not
[20:34] <OerHeks> that would explain the jump after 32768
[20:36] <mra90> can I still use /etc/network/interfaces in ubuntu 18.04?
[20:36] <Bashing-om> !netplan | mra90
[20:36] <tomreyn> mra90: yes, but it's deprecated, and will likely be removed in future LTS releases
[20:37] <mra90> ok so I see, netplan is recommended and presumably quicker
[20:37] <mra90> Bashing-om: thanks
[20:38] <tomreyn> !releasenotes | mra90
[20:38] <Bashing-om> mra90: :) .. just my bit to try and help .
[20:38] <mra90> by the way, what I try to do is to simply create LAN between my ubuntu 18.04 laptop and second one with windows 10
[20:39] <mra90> will netplan alow me to do this?
[20:39] <jeremy31> mra90: If you want sharing between the computers, you will need samba
[20:40] <tomreyn> mra90: responding to your original question: sure, you can configure a static network configuration using netplan, and have it render it to either of the backends.
[20:40] <cryptodan_mobile> Samba or nfs
[20:41] <mra90> jeremy31: I would like to use just plain LAN
[20:41] <OerHeks> https://netplan.io/examples
[20:41] <mra90> BTW, I must admit I am surprised to see dedicated website for netplan o.O
[20:41] <Bashing-om> mra90: ^^ and : https://blog.ubuntu.com/2017/12/01/ubuntu-bionic-netplan .
[20:42] <cryptodan_mobile> mra90: Google samba then Google nfs
[20:43] <mra90> Bashing-om: cryptodan_mobile  tomreyn , thank you all guys! ;]
[20:43] <jikings> q
[20:43] <venthe> Hello. Im running ubuntu server on a usb hdd and after a few minutes after booting the hdd makes clicking sound. After that I can see "print_reg_error_ I/O error, dev sda, sector (different numbers)" in terminal. do you know what it might be?
[20:44] <tomreyn> venthe: a broken hdd
[20:45] <tomreyn> venthe: you can experiment with !smart but better just replace the disk and restore your backup
[20:45] <tomreyn> !smart | venthe
[20:46] <mra90> but even for samba I need netplan right?
[20:47] <cryptodan_mobile> Netplan is needed for configuring network devices
[20:47] <exell> can anyone help me with a network sharing issue, I cannot find my network shares automatically in network through my pc but I can with my laptop but they are both identical, I have samba uninstalled, and reinstalled and still nothing
[20:47] <venthe> tomreyn: I though that its probably broken but after restarting it a few times it seems to hand after the similar interval. May it be something related to usb hdd spindown ?
[20:47] <tomreyn> mra90: you will still need to have a way for both computerrs to communicate with each other. both physically, by means of joining them to the same phyical network (or with routers in between), and with network interface configurations on both, yes. netplan can heko you do the network interface condfiguration.
[20:48] <tomreyn> heko -> help
[20:48] <mra90> tomreyn: thanks I will try to configure it
[20:48] <mra90> hope on windows end it will be possible and simple
[20:48] <tomreyn> venthe: so you want to examine more thoroughly. use !smart then
[20:49] <tomreyn> venthe: also check you system logs.
[20:49] <tomreyn> mra90: there is ##windows if it turns out not to
[20:50] <mra90> tomreyn: heh yes I know ;]
[20:50] <venthe> thank you
[20:51] <tomreyn> exell: both identical how? same ubuntu release, same software installed in the same versions, connected to the same network?
[20:51] <tomreyn> and neither got a firewall running?
[20:55] <tomreyn> venthe: which ubuntu version and kernel version is this actually as per    nc termbin.com 9999 < <(lsb_release -ds;cat /proc/{version,cmdline};)
[20:56] <tomreyn> you can also share the "smartctl -x /dev/sda" output with us if you'd like a second opinion
[20:59] <GSMarquis> So I have read alot on AMDGPU driver and still confused. amdgpu/amdgpu-pro that is downloadable from AMD different from what is automatic in Ubuntu 18.04?
[21:01] <Eickmeyer> GSMarquis: The AMD GPU Pro driver is primarily for graphics-intensive applications (such as CAD, etc.) and is not intended for every day users.
[21:01] <GSMarquis>  tried installing the pro and went well until I restarted and tried to login to desktop. The login screen would just keep coming back. I switch to terminal and removed it.
[21:01] <exell> tpmreyn: yeah, the only difference is i have plasma 5 on the desktop and lxfe on the laptop but all the gears are the same
[21:01] <Eickmeyer> GSMarquis: The proprietary AMD driver doesn't offer any performance benefits over the one in the kernel. I'd just stick with the one in the kernel.
[21:02]  * Eickmeyer also has AMD graphics
[21:02] <GSMarquis> Well I dont plan on running any video card enabled calcs.....Was trying to optimize the proton/steam setup
[21:02] <Eickmeyer> GSMarquis: You won't find any improvements. It's not for gaming.
[21:02] <GSMarquis> ok.
[21:03] <GSMarquis> Well Im back on the kernel enabled one. System works again. So what is the amdgpu that is downloadable from AMD, not the pro script.
[21:03] <Eickmeyer> GSMarquis: I read somewhere that Valve doesn't even recommend using the amdgpu-pro driver.
[21:03] <Eickmeyer> GSMarquis: It's the same thing as what's in the kernel, so I wouldn't bother.
[21:04] <Eickmeyer> GSMarquis: If the -pro driver gave you issues, it's best to stay away from it.
[21:05] <GSMarquis> Well that settles that, thanks. I got a free Resident evil remake game from buying the Radeon 580x 8gig. It was delivered to me by steam account.
[21:05] <Eickmeyer> Nice. :)
[21:05] <GSMarquis> I have yet to get it run via steam/proton beta.
[21:06] <Eickmeyer> GSMarquis: Cool. If you don't have any further support but wish to keep chatting, feel free to join #ubuntu-offtopic.
[21:06] <GSMarquis> I have trashed the win10 partition and refuse to go back. Still learning linux as I am only a few months in.
[21:06] <GSMarquis> Thanks, will do. Did know I was off topic, sorry.
[21:07] <Eickmeyer> All good. :)
[21:07] <tomreyn> exell: hmm, i wouldn't know then. maybe if you can show some terminal output for the smb discovery / the cifs mounts, as well as network configurations, and related system logs, we could help more.
[21:09] <exell> temreyn: no, nothing, i tried everything i found on the first couple of pages of google, removed and totally purged samba
[21:13] <exell> tomreyn: I would need some help on where I would find these, i'm not long onto linux so i'm just verging onto intermediate
[21:16] <tomreyn> exell: i'm not exactly good at samba, but maybe can opiint you in the right direction. which ubuntu version is this?   nc termbin.com 9999 < <(lsb_release -ds;cat /proc/{version,cmdline};)
[21:17] <tomreyn> this gibberish is a coimmand you can paste on a terminal window, then run by pressing enter.
[21:17] <tomreyn> it should return a web address you can then post here
[21:19] <exell> tmreyn: https://termbin.com/4s41v
[21:19] <tomreyn> exell: and the other computer reports similar?
[21:20] <exell> tomreyn: just trying it on the other computer
[21:23] <exell> tomreyn: https://termbin.com/m4p8  < thats the other pc
[21:27] <tomreyn> exell: very similar indeed. now for network configurations: nmcli | nc termbin.com 9999
[21:27] <tomreyn> exell: actually dont post this
[21:27] <tomreyn> exell: just tell the ip address of the samba server
[21:30] <exell> tomreyn: nothing on there about samba o_O
[21:32] <tomreyn> exell: what exactly provides the network shares you are trying to access?
[21:33] <exell> one is a folder on the pc / one is a router with usb. The laptop picks up both shares, but the pc shows nothing in the network folder. just google and add new
[21:35] <noalternative> I am having trouble with bluetooth.  The other day someone here told me to install blueman, and I did, but everytime I start it, it tells me bluz-deamon didn't start and it is probably because it can't find my bluetooth adapter.
[21:35] <noalternative> can someone help.  I have some more problems as well.
[21:36] <noalternative> My pc is an Intell Compute Stick attached to a nexdock and I need bluetooth to attach the touchpad and keyboard
[21:36] <jeremy31> noalternative: post url from terminal for "(lsusb && dmesg | egrep -i 'blue|firm') | nc termbin.com 9999
[21:37] <noalternative> It is a bay trail STCK1A32WFC stick and I am using the linuxium version of ubuntu
[21:38] <jeremy31> noalternative: linuxium is not supported here
[21:40] <ducasse> noalternative: we only support the official ubuntu releases
[21:40] <noalternative> is there a chat for linuxium.  It is Ubuntu it has just been custom configured by the man that created linuxium
[21:40] <noalternative> it is official ubuntu
[21:40] <noalternative> linuxium is program that adds drivers for bay trail devices
[21:40] <noalternative> at least some of them.
[21:43] <noalternative> jeremy31 here is my paste from the command you requested https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/F3YVGfkM8w/
[21:44] <TrebolSan> .
[21:44] <TrebolSan> hi?
[21:44] <tomreyn> exell: can you  this confirmed by this :   gio list network://
[21:44] <tomreyn> exell: can you  confirmed this by this command, run on both computers?   gio list network://
[21:45] <tomreyn> my engish is falling apart, but i hope you understand anyways.
[21:45] <noalternative> Here is the linuxium website.  He is offering official versions of ubuntuhttps://linuxiumcomau.blogspot.com/
[21:48] <tomreyn> noalternative: it's either official, unmodified, or modified, not both.
[21:48] <noalternative> do you have any suggestions as to where I can get help with this?
[21:49] <jeremy31> noalternative: no bluetooth that I see, linuxium should provide their own support
[21:52] <tomreyn> noalternative: come back when you run an unmodified ubuntu and we can look into this further.
[22:12] <Heilped> Does someone know how to ensure a+rwx permissions remain after updating files through other software?
[22:12] <Heilped> I'
[22:15] <Heilped> I've done "chmod -R a+rwx /path", but every time a file gets changed it loses its permissions
[22:17] <Heilped> specifically, it goes from -rwxrwxrwx to -rw-------
[22:18] <tomreyn> Heilped: what'S the "other software"?
[22:19] <tomreyn> and why do you need it rwx by all?
[22:19] <Heilped> megasync
[22:19] <Heilped> I need apache2 to be able to access the data
[22:20] <Heilped> which is in a root directory
[22:21] <tomreyn> Heilped: i assume megasync runs under your personal ubuntu user account?
[22:21] <Heilped> no it runs under root im fairly certain
[22:22] <tatertots> exell: did you get it working?
[22:22] <tomreyn> Heilped: well hopefully not.
[22:22] <Heilped> I'm 90% certain it does, but not sure how to check
[22:23] <Heilped> I've done this exact thing with dropbox earlier and it worked, as dropbox did not change permissions on files when they were added or updated
[22:24] <tomreyn> pgrep megasync | xargs ps u
[22:24] <Heilped> yeah root
[22:25] <Heilped> or rather, dropbox gave files -rw-rwxr--+, which worked just fine
[22:26] <tomreyn> maybe you can change the umask of megasync
[22:27] <tomreyn> but we don't support it here, and i don't know it well (and surely wont run closed source software as root), so i'm afraid i can't help more.
[22:30] <OerHeks> i would think logically megasync would run under www-data?
[22:31] <Heilped> run megasync under the www-data user?
[22:31] <OerHeks> that would avoid conflicts with your apache2 service
[22:32] <OerHeks> you might want to reask in #ubuntu-server
[22:32] <Heilped> im not sure how that would be possible given that you cant do "su www-data"
[22:32] <Heilped> oh yeah ill make sure to go there
[23:00] <raver> anyone knows when ubunu 19.04 will be officially available?
[23:01] <pragmaticenigma> raver: This channel is operated by volunteers. We can only make an educated guess as to the release date.
[23:01] <Bashing-om> raver: The schedule calls of the 18th.
[23:01] <raver> thx :)
[23:01] <pragmaticenigma> raver: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DiscoDingo/ReleaseSchedule
[23:02] <jeremy31> It might be April 18, or May 18
[23:02] <padarc> then it would be 19.05 though
[23:04] <pragmaticenigma> padarc: please don't speculate
[23:07] <teward> raver: also #ubuntu+1 is probably the better place to ask questions about the upcoming release.
[23:51] <\dev\cache> anyone familiar with digital ocean vps?
[23:51] <\dev\cache> i am trying to change the nameservers for it but I cant
[23:52] <Krennic> hmm
[23:53] <rypervenche> \dev\cache: That's not really Ubuntu related. You might want to try somewhere else, like #linux.
[23:53] <rypervenche> ##linux rather