[02:19] <wxl> oookie dokie
 ?
[02:20] <wxl> i've exhausted myself with cleaning the house; time to work on lubuntu
 Gotcha.
 @wxl [<wxl> i've exhausted myself with cleaning the house; time to work on lubuntu], Procrastinator XD
[02:28] <wxl> pffht no activity at all today from any of ya'll it seems XD
[02:28] <wxl> except of course lynorian :)
 I've been sleeping all day

[02:30] <wxl> wow now that's a partition scheme https://launchpadlibrarian.net/400881386/InstallOverviewWindow.jpg
 holy
 Which bug is that from?
[02:32] <wxl> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/calamares/+bug/1801441
[02:32] <wxl> it's actually about the size of the calamares window
[02:33] <wxl> i went down this rabbit hole at one point and lost it somewhere along the line
 If you have fewer partitions it fits on the screen better. XD
 Seriously, I think we should force cala full screen.
[02:35] <wxl> i agree
[02:36] <wxl> does cala ever NOT work if it's full screen?
 @wxl [<wxl> does cala ever NOT work if it's full screen?], Not on agaida's 4x2 screen XD
[02:36] <wxl> X'''''D
 Needs more testing but the tests I have done in a VM all seem to work.
[02:37] <wxl> i thought that was an 8x4 array of 4x2 screens
 XD
 XD
[02:38] <wxl> look forcing full-screen is going to be a huge improvement and cover most problems except for some potential edge cases which we can deal with when we get there
[02:38] <wxl> could we do this for disco tsimonq2 ?
 @wxl [<wxl> could we do this for disco tsimonq2 ?], It's a bit late I think.
[02:39] <wxl> ok
 It would be cool if we could test it on real hardware.
[02:40] <wxl> manjaro patched cala to fix it https://github.com/manjaro/calamares/commit/b140080eff1d0e8eee3730f0dc160b6fd134b6a9
[02:40] <wxl> it seems the issue is actually more pronounced on virtual machines
[02:41] <wxl> since they seem to default to smaller screen sizes
[02:41] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rMANUALc116bcd5cee1: do not install that bad sphinx extension] lynorian (Lyn Perrine) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rMANUALc116bcd5cee1
[02:42] <wxl> oh nevermind cala accepted that patch https://github.com/calamares/calamares/commit/b7a0b3930f18250085e65fc550943a71dd9f0ee4
 Full screen forces everything to resize.
[02:44] <wxl> yeah i see that as the easy solution
[02:44] <wxl> so how do we make it full size?
 In the branding configuration if I remember correctly.
 Ouuu look at guiverc go :)
 @kc2bez [In the branding configuration if I remember correctly.], Sad, all my comments on the original task never made it to cache. I had it documented once. I'll find it again.
[02:48] <wxl> @kc2bez: yeah i lost a good task too :(
[02:49] <wxl> windowExpanding: fullscreen
[02:49] <wxl> in branding/default/branding.desc
 Yup, that is it.
[02:51] <wxl> s/default/lubuntu/
[02:52] <wxl> interesingly we do not set that at all which means we're using normal, i.e. expand as needed to windowSize which we also do not set and defaults to 800x520
[02:54] <wxl> sorry 800px,520px
[02:54] <wxl> that's their nomenclature.. it will also accept font-units (s/px/em/)
[02:54] <wxl> you want to make a task for that @kc2bez ?
 You mean like https://phab.lubuntu.me/T25
[02:55] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [Medium, Open] Make Calamares work well with smaller screens: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T25
[02:55] <wxl> XD
 .
 XD
[02:58] <wxl> every time philmmanjaro refers to calamares as "CAL" it makes me giggle
 It's Cala
[03:00] <guiverc> fyi: "Full disk install with encryption on a BIOS system"  calamares crashed first try,  I `sudo ubuntu-bug /var/crash/...` & it didn't want me to go firefox.. on retry it has appeared to work (gotta reboot now to confirm - want me to do anything before re: crash)
 Or as a certain Lubuntu mailing list frequenter would phrase it, "Lu Insta"
[03:01] <wxl> X''''''''''''''D
[03:01] <wxl> guiverc: what do you mean "it didn't want me to go to firefox?" was there a particular error?
[03:01] <guiverc> lots of dots I assume as it uploaded; then it returned to $ prompt; no question or anything more.
[03:01] <guiverc> i see the .uploaded file there
[03:02] <wxl> weird
[03:02] <wxl> did it have you log into launchpad?
[03:03] <Guest26302> e23cb27a-5f28-11e9-922b-fa163e6cac46  wxl is in the "_usr_bin_calamares.0.uploaded" file if you can do anything with that (guiverc)
[03:04] <guiverc> nope - it didn't open firefox; just returned to prompt.  (this term is in another room) - see Guest26302 line which maybe you can use
[03:04] <wxl> Guest26302: pastebinit somewhere maybe?
[03:05] <wxl> thta could be an apport bug which would suck
[03:06] <Guest26302> `sudo pastebinit _usr_bin_calamares.0.uploaded` gives http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/Yy6QZvCWNy/
[03:06] <wxl> oh yeah er duh
[03:07] <wxl> is the crash file still there?
[03:07] <Guest26302> or did you mean pastebin the .crash report?
[03:07] <Guest26302> :)  will do
[03:07] <wxl> yes
[03:08] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [T25: Make Calamares work well with smaller screens] kc2bez (Dan Simmons) commented on the task: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T25#845
[03:13] <Guest26302> wxl: https://drive.google.com/open?id=1w4Zqg-NHnIkvwTD-k_Vy6Fvoy_W1UqwP
 Morning bros!
[03:18] <wxl> hey now we're not al bros
 For me everyone's a bro
[03:18] <wxl> Guest26302: carry on. i'll analyze further. if you could test that hard, i'd appreciate it.
[03:19] <wxl> @The_LoudSpeaker in that case, for me, you are a lady XD
 Lol. Noice!
[03:25] <guiverc> :)  ack wxl
 What's 'ack'?
[03:27] <wxl> acknowledgement
 Gg!
[03:29] <wxl> dude there are pixies in cala https://github.com/calamares/calamares/blob/05bf1e5226dc92357fdf4b39e5e89c81a59234a0/src/libcalamaresui/Branding.cpp#L345
[03:33] <guiverc> wxl: just FYI:  after the crash I re-tried & I've now tested that '2nd' & it looks great..  login & all good, reboot to live & encrypted partition that rejected on wrong passwd, but accepted on my 'secret' passwd.. I'm passing that test!
[03:33] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rMANUAL76c2c8c847d6: Fix capitlization] lynorian (Lyn Perrine) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rMANUAL76c2c8c847d6
[03:34] <wxl> guiverc: great testing!
[03:41] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rMANUAL624dc7346d60: Start sourcing Updates tab] lynorian (Lyn Perrine) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rMANUAL624dc7346d60
[04:59] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rMANUALc76479131fad: Add new system tray screenshot] lynorian (Lyn Perrine) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rMANUALc76479131fad
[06:35] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [T25: Make Calamares work well with smaller screens] wxl (Walter Lapchynski) commented on the task: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T25#847
[08:09] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [T49: 19.04 Release Notes] apt-ghetto (apt-ghetto) commented on the task: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T49#849
[09:34] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [T32: Make checksum verification automatic] apt-ghetto (apt-ghetto) commented on the task: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T32#851
 Hey guys, its been a while since I logged into Phabricator.  I know there were some issues for a while.  Do I need to start my account new again?
 @docEbrown [Hey guys, its been a while since I logged into Phabricator.  I know there were s …], Hey Doc, good to hear from you. Yes, you will need to setup new account.
 cool, thanks fo rthe heads up.  Sorry for the absence!
 No worries, we do what we can when we can.
 @kc2bez [No worries, we do what we can when we can.], 👍
 is this the correct address for phab git?  [68.183.102.49]:2222
 Just want to check as ssh is giving me a DNS spoofing warning
 It is a whole new machine so the ssh keys have changed. I have the same IP here.
 yeah ok cool.  So you have the 68. blah ip?
 I do.
 awesome thx!
 Anytime.
[12:34] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [T32: Make checksum verification automatic] tsimonq2 (Simon Quigley) commented on the task: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T32#852
[12:35] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [T32: Make checksum verification automatic] tsimonq2 (Simon Quigley) commented on the task: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T32#854
[12:43] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [T58: consider minimal install] tsimonq2 (Simon Quigley) commented on the task: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T58#856
[12:43] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [T58: consider minimal install] tsimonq2 (Simon Quigley) commented on the task: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T58#856
[12:54] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [T50: figure out why we have golang in our packageset] tsimonq2 (Simon Quigley) commented on the task: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T50#859
[13:08] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [T25: Make Calamares work well with smaller screens] tsimonq2 (Simon Quigley) commented on the task: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T25#861
[13:10] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [T60: Add support for bug tracking in Lugito] tsimonq2 (Simon Quigley) just created this task: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T60
[13:56] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [T32: Make checksum verification automatic] teward (Thomas Ward) commented on the task: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T32#871
 @lynorian @tsimonq2 @wxl Docker didn't want to install for some reason, and ElasticSearch tried to kill me.  The ES instance for this will ULTIMATELY probably end up dockerized, but I have to figure out why Docker didn't want to work.  once I get that and ES installed, I'mma have to do some NAT trickery but then I can start making s
 Thanks
 in the mean time I need coffee.  ANd cake.  And also coke - no I don't mean the drugs I mean a cocacola.
[14:03] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [T32: Make checksum verification automatic] teward (Thomas Ward) commented on the task: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T32#872
[14:03]  * teward spites T32
[14:03] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [T61: Add Jenkins support to Lugito ] tsimonq2 (Simon Quigley) just created this task: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T61
 @teward001 [in the mean time I need coffee.  ANd cake.  And also coke - no I don't mean the …], lol
[14:04]  * genii slides a platter over to teward of coffee-cake, actual coffee, and an ice-bucket full of Cokes
[14:04]  * teward consumes all
[14:04]  * teward then proceeds to spite tsimonq2 for reasons
[14:04] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [T32: Make checksum verification automatic] tsimonq2 (Simon Quigley) commented on the task: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T32#882
 @lubuntu_bot [*teward: spites T32*], Learn to read :P
 *shot*
[14:05] <teward> @tsimonq2 I'm still going to spite you
[14:05] <teward> *accidentally locks out Simon's phab acount* ... oops :P
[14:06] <teward> tsimonq2: No, that doesn't help, because what you want to happen is part of the preinstallation steps even BEFORE the filesystem has been unzipped/loaded
[14:06] <teward> there's no way to SystemD that
[14:06] <teward> that'd have to be written into the ISO loader
[14:07] <teward> because AIUI it checks the expected hashsum of certain files on-ISO in its manifest against the actuals then reports
 @teward [<teward> tsimonq2: No, that doesn't help, because what you want to happen is par …], Yes you can, the squashfs is mounted and you can do Stuff to it. So even if it's booted, if it's Bad, just Err out of there
[14:07] <teward> you still haven't identified what exactly needs checked
 Booting the ISO doesn't modify the squashfs
 didn't say it *did*
 I'm seriously saying "literally do exactly what the boot entry does"
 Nothing more
 Nothing less
 Just that
 It's a script
 It runs through
 I've read the code
 Do THAT :P
 you need to stop using the enter key
 @tsimonq2 [I've read the code], Yeah?  Link to it then
 @teward001 [Yeah?  Link to it then], I will in a bit
 because not telling someone like me who doesn't usually go into that code the link is a folly on your part
 @tsimonq2 [I will in a bit], then you haven't completely finished writing the task.  *spites the task as before because SImon failed to completely create a proper dev task*
 :P
 *hands teward another coffee*
 *hands @tsimonq2 irradiated food stuffs for reasons*
[15:11] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [T62: "Lubuntu" instead of "ubuntu" in grub menu and nvram entries.] The_LoudSpeaker (Raman Sarda) just created this task: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T62
[15:12] <docEbrown> sleeping
 ^^ wxl here you go. The task about grub and nvram entries.
[15:14] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [T62: "Lubuntu" instead of "ubuntu" in grub menu and nvram entries.] tsimonq2 (Simon Quigley) commented on the task: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T62#893
 *sigh*
 Sorry
 As an Ubuntu flavor, we have platform expectations
 I tried though
[15:18] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [T32: Make checksum verification automatic] wxl (Walter Lapchynski) commented on the task: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T32#895
 @tsimonq2 [Sorry], Lite.
[15:20] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [T58: consider minimal install] wxl (Walter Lapchynski) commented on the task: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T58#896
[15:22] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [T25: Make Calamares work well with smaller screens] wxl (Walter Lapchynski) commented on the task: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T25#897
[15:22] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [T25: Make Calamares work well with smaller screens] wxl (Walter Lapchynski) commented on the task: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T25#898
[15:23] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [T60: Add support for bug tracking in Lugito] wxl (Walter Lapchynski) commented on the task: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T60#900
[15:27] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [T32: Make checksum verification automatic] tsimonq2 (Simon Quigley) commented on the task: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T32#901
[15:28] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [T25: Make Calamares work well with smaller screens] wxl (Walter Lapchynski) commented on the task: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T25#902
[15:28] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [T60: Add support for bug tracking in Lugito] tsimonq2 (Simon Quigley) commented on the task: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T60#903
[15:30] <wxl> cala 3.2.5 is out https://calamares.io/calamares-3.2.5-is-out/
[15:30] <wxl> @tsimonq2: did we get that bootloader/efi fix?
 @wxl [<wxl> cala 3.2.5 is out https://calamares.io/calamares-3.2.5-is-out/], I had a convo with [ade] on freeze day and slid some cherry picks in which is all of the bugfix stuff from this release
[15:31] <wxl> k cool
 I want to give @HMollerCl a shot to package this new release when he's ready, since Dan did it last time :)
 @wxl [<wxl> @tsimonq2: did we get that bootloader/efi fix?], Yeah, that's been fixed since like last week XD
 We should credit mitya57 for driving that
[15:32] <wxl> i thought so
 He fixed up qtbase and worked with upstream to drive a fix
[15:33] <wxl> @HMollerCl since @tsimonq2 is recommending you for packaging the new release of calamares here's all the fixes for 3.2.5… make sure to get rid of the patches that give these fixes! https://github.com/calamares/calamares/issues?q=milestone%3Av3.2.5
 Whenever you're ready Hans, try it out in the ci/stable branch, which we can merge into ubuntu/electric when it opens
 YES WALTER, ELECTRIC. EAGLE. XD
[15:35] <wxl> i'm going to write mark and tell him to write a post on the name wherein he spends 99% discussing what a bad name electric eagle is and then in the last 1% announces the real name
 HAHAHAHAHA
 DO IT, I DARE YOU
[15:36] <wxl> does everything have a ci branch? cuz we could keep development going.....
 @wxl [<wxl> i'm going to write mark and tell him to write a post on the name wherein h …], THIS
 @wxl [<wxl> does everything have a ci branch? cuz we could keep development going.....], All non-native packages we host, yeah
 At least they should
[15:38] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [T63: Add support for Differential Revisions in Lugito] wxl (Walter Lapchynski) just created this task: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T63
[15:38] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [T60: Add support for bug tracking in Lugito] wxl (Walter Lapchynski) commented on the task: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T60#913
[15:43] <wxl> @tsimonq2: can you think of a way to to get a list of all contributors to any of our repos for a particular branch?
[15:43] <tsimonq2> Yeah, with some git-fu.
[15:44] <tsimonq2> I can probably list our contributors off the top of my head, though.
[15:44] <tsimonq2> What do you have in mind? Stats?
[15:44] <wxl> i know there's at least a couple missing from here including @The_LoudSpeaker and the author of the commit themselves XD
[15:44] <wxl> https://github.com/lubuntu-team/blog/pull/1
[15:45] <wxl> and @guiverc !!!!
[15:45] <wxl> (who while not a code contributor is a huge freaking help)
[15:46] <tsimonq2> Right
[15:46] <tsimonq2> wxl: And lynorian!!!
 😶
[15:47] <wxl> lynorian is already there and got a big shoutout
[15:53]  * wxl installs kwin in live and hopes he doesn't run out of space
[16:02]  * teward watches as wxl's computer explodes
[16:03] <wxl> well, it worked
[16:03] <wxl> and 800x600 works fine in cala with it
[16:03] <wxl> tl;dr openbox sucks XD
 I am getting an error while running sudo apt update.  … E: Release file for http://in.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/disco-proposed/InRelease is not valid yet (invalid for another 4h 54min 23s). Updates for this repository will not be applied. … E: Release file for http://in.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/disco/InRelease is 
 Uhh, war?
 *wat
 You can read the message I guess.
 Try `sudo apt update` again
 If it's a consistent problem, please go to #ubuntu-release on freenode
 Maybe check to see if your time is synced?
 Er, #ubuntu-mirrors is probably better
 @kc2bez [Maybe check to see if your time is synced?], ^
 @tsimonq2 [Try sudo apt update again], Worked.
 Ahh :)
 @kc2bez [Maybe check to see if your time is synced?], Yeah it's also wrong Idk how. It was correct last time I booted.
 @tsimonq2 [Ahh :)], Oops wait. Didn't work.
 I will sybc time and check.
 *sync
 This time it's fine.
 Is there a magnet/torrent for the disco dingo daily builds?
 @EgenhoferJ I don't think so it changes every day so who would seed it?
 Oh, duh, sorry before coffee.
 https://pcpartpicker.com/list/4vw2dX
 Whoops wrong TG chat, man I am not on it today.
 well I have that motherboard
 How is it?
 I
 That's my upgrade I am working on.
 Keeping my PSU, graphics and storage.
[19:00] <lynorian> looks good and compatible with anything 18.10 or newer
 Ah good, if I decide to install Ubuntu on actual hardware.
 Been using manjaro for a few months now.
 @wxl [<wxl> @HMollerCl since @tsimonq2 is recommending you for packaging the new relea …], For 19.10?
 @HMollerCl [For 19.10?], Yes
 You can do it in the ci/stable branch of the packaging
[20:12] <wxl> here's a bug to look out for in cala 3.2.4 https://github.com/calamares/calamares/issues/1061
[20:17] <therry> Hello, I tried the latest daily build on an old computed (core2duo) the live ends to a black screen with a yellow blinking underscore.
[20:18] <therry> I read the informations here http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/milestones/403/builds/191339/buginstructions (and the pages linked) but I don't understant how to report my crash.
[20:19] <therry> Lubuntu 18.04 is working and the latest Ubuntu daily build too.
[20:19] <wxl> therry: did you check the hashes of the iso as well as checking the install media at boot for defects?
[20:19] <therry> yes
[20:21] <wxl> that is a 64 bit chip right?
[20:21] <therry> yes E7300 core2duo
[20:22] <wxl> ok try this: we do store a few days of dailies.. try going back and seeing if you can find anything there.. http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/lubuntu/daily-live/
[20:22] <wxl> bisect it by starting with the oldest then the one in the middle, etc
[20:23] <wxl> one more thing.. what is your install media?
[20:23] <therry> DVD
[20:25] <wxl> hm i'm confuzzled. 
[20:31] <therry> I have loggin/password on others tty, but account
[20:32] <therry> I am downloading the '2019-04-12 14:48' version.
[20:33] <therry> (sorry: but I have no acount)
[20:47] <guiverc> therry, fyi: i've run daily 19.04 on c2d-e6850 & c2d-e8300 without issue, I'd suggest 'check install media' option to ensure your download/write were good..
[21:05] <therry> "Check disc for defects => check finished: no errors found"
[21:06] <therry> But the title is "Lubuntu 18.10" (I burned the version '2019-04-13 22:30')
[21:06] <therry> My hardware:
[21:06] <therry> CPU: Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Duo CPU E7300 @ 2.66GHz
[21:07] <therry> Motherboard: ASUSTeK Computer INC. P5N7A-VM
[21:08] <therry> GPU: NVIDIA Corporation G94 [GeForce 9600 GT] (reva1)
[21:18] <wxl> @tsimonq2: ^^ do you have any idea what's going on here? there's also someone on support that's having problems with 18.10.. some weird edge case?
[21:20] <tsimonq2> I have no clue.
[21:20] <tsimonq2> therry: What exactly are you doing to get to that point?
[21:21] <wxl> therry: did you try to do the bisect i suggested?
[21:22] <tsimonq2> Waaaaait a minute.
[21:22] <tsimonq2> NVIDIA graphics...
[21:22] <tsimonq2> Oh noes.
[21:22] <wxl> ????
 Super janky nvidia graphics no less
[21:22] <tsimonq2> ^
[21:22] <tsimonq2> +1 on bisecting it.
[21:23] <tsimonq2> Some graphics Fun landed recently, iirc.
[21:23] <wxl> how far should they start with the bisect? i suggested recent dailies but perhaps beta would be better?
[21:23] <tsimonq2> Yeah, Beta.
[21:24] <wxl> got that therry ?
[21:26] <therry> The '2019-04-12 14:48' fails immediatly with "ISOLINUX 6.04 20181203 ETCD Copyright...." (before the boot menu)
[21:27] <therry> But it's an old DVD RW. I no longer have a blank DVD. Tomorow I will try with an USB key (if my motherboard support that, not sure...)
[21:28] <wxl> core2duos aren't THAT old
 12 years max
 Merom debuted in July 2006. wow.
[21:31] <therry> With the  '2019-04-13 22:30', I can choose my langage, I have the boot menu, I can click to install, I have the blue waiting menu (titled Lubuntu 18.10), then it ends to a black screen with a blinking underscore. On F2, F3, F4, ... I can log in, but I have no account. 
 Can you boot that guy with `nomodeset` in the commandline?
[21:38] <wxl> @lynorian: maybe a suggestion for the manual in the advanced or tips and tricks section would be dealing with kernel parameters
[21:38] <therry> NVidia 9600GT is OK with Ubuntu 19.04 daily build.
[21:38] <therry> Same behavior with nomodeset
[21:42] <therry> I'm going to sleep. This is my email, if I can help or install others versions: vtitux@gmail.com. Tomorow, I will try to install beta version, if I can use an USB storage.
[21:43] <wxl> therry: pop by tomorrow and let's see what we can figure out together
[21:44] <therry> Ok. bye
 Try acpi=off once
 Therry ^
[21:45] <tsimonq2> Does anyone have a machine with an NVIDIA graphics card handy that they can test something with on the latest daily?
 I have a Dell Inspiron 7720 laptop that has a Nvidia gt650m.
[21:49] <tsimonq2> Could you boot the latest daily on it?
 Yup. Let me zsync it. Just got home so you'll have to give me a few.
[21:50] <tsimonq2> ok :)
[21:56] <wxl> @tsimonq2: does this suggest we don't ship support for korean? https://phab.lubuntu.me/source/seed/browse/disco/langpacksize$8 see bug 1810634
[21:58] <tsimonq2> wxl: https://phab.lubuntu.me/source/calamares-settings-ubuntu/browse/master/lubuntu/modules/packages.conf$12
[21:59] <wxl> @tsimonq2: tl;dr we intend to support all languages.
[21:59] <tsimonq2> wxl: Yeah.
[21:59] <wxl> @tsimonq2: so how do we deal with the fact that there are different packages for fcitx?
[22:00] <wxl> because we do NOT and HAVE NOT had fcitx-hangul
[22:00] <tsimonq2> I don't know.
[22:01] <wxl> we've seeded fcitx since 16.04 and none of them have hangul
 @tsimonq2 what am I supposed to be doing with this daily?
[22:03] <tsimonq2> @kc2bez: `sudo ubuntu-drivers autoinstall`
[22:03] <tsimonq2> What's the output?
[22:08] <wxl> ew we're seeding the gtk fcitx stuff
[22:10] <tsimonq2> eew
[22:10] <wxl> here's all the input methods.. we should probably make sure that we deal with the ones (like anthy and hangul) that are language specific
[22:10] <wxl> looks like we need a task to fix fcitx ugh
 @tsimonq2 http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/9sFZ5QCGB3/
[22:10] <wxl> also i seem to remember ui-qimpanel is messed up
 @kc2bez [@tsimonq2 http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/9sFZ5QCGB3/], THAT'S AWESOME
[22:11] <tsimonq2> omg
[22:11] <tsimonq2> ok
[22:11] <tsimonq2> so
 @tsimonq2 [THAT'S AWESOME], no you're awesome
[22:11] <tsimonq2> <3
[22:12] <wxl> yup i remembered right https://github.com/hmollercl/lubuntuPhab/blob/master/Tasks/%E2%9A%93%20T162%20remove%20fcitx-ui-qimpanel.html
[22:12] <tsimonq2> @kc2bez: Could you try rebooting that (thus, wiping everything) and running this instead? `sudo ubuntu-drivers autoinstall --package-list /run/ubuntu-drivers.autoinstall`
 Yup. Standby
[22:13] <tsimonq2> Thanks
[22:14] <wxl> i hate to say i agree with mint buttttttttttttttttttttt https://github.com/linuxmint/mintlocale/issues/61
 Another paste @tsimonq2 http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/2T5KZ7Tff6/
 @kc2bez [Another paste @tsimonq2 http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/2T5KZ7Tff6/], What about `cat /run/ubuntudrivers.autoinstall` in that same system?
 nvidia-driver-418
 AHA
 ok
 thanks!
[22:33] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rMANUALb2aab93235d2: Start Adding boot options for tips and tricks] lynorian (Lyn Perrine) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rMANUALb2aab93235d2
 No problem. Anything else?
 Not right now
 In a few though
 Let me know, I'll be here.
 Thanks :)
[22:38] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rMANUAL10787f3c31fa: Add enter key or right to boot menu and escape to go out submenu of grub] lynorian (Lyn Perrine) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rMANUAL10787f3c31fa
[22:49] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [T64: fix fcitx packages] wxl (Walter Lapchynski) just created this task: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T64
[22:51] <wxl> @tsimonq2: so what was the deal with all that nvidia business? like what's the conclusion?
[22:52] <tsimonq2> wxl: https://imgur.com/a/Ko9IdhH
[22:53] <wxl> OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
[22:53] <tsimonq2> ;) ;)
 YASSSS
[22:55] <wxl> are we going to seed nvidia-driver-*?
[22:55] <tsimonq2> nuh uh
[22:55] <tsimonq2> welll
[22:55] <tsimonq2> eh
[22:55] <wxl> i mean
[22:55] <tsimonq2> hmmm
[22:55] <wxl> yeah
[22:55] <wxl> we'll have to
[22:56] <wxl> especially *US* :)
 Apparently maté shipped a thing.
[22:56] <wxl> i'm sure ubuntu can justify canning old ones
[22:56] <wxl> well it's only 390, 410, and 418
[22:56] <wxl> so that's not terrible
[22:56] <tsimonq2> Let's see if OTHERS do it
[22:57] <wxl> if they don't make sure to check the logic
[22:57] <wxl> if they're thinking that no one in their right mind would use a computer that old.... that might not apply to us
[22:57] <tsimonq2> None of nvidia-graphics-drivers-* are seeded
[22:57] <tsimonq2> sooo
[22:57] <tsimonq2> hmm
[22:58] <wxl> O_O
[22:58] <tsimonq2> sooo wtf XD
[22:58] <wxl> is that thing already in ubuntu?
[22:58] <wxl> if so we could have kc2bez test ubuntu with no network connection and see if it's fuxxored
[22:58] <tsimonq2> ^ please do
 Sure
 No go.
[23:01] <tsimonq2> aaaHA
[23:04] <wxl> yup
[23:05] <wxl> i'd call that Not Good™
[23:05] <wxl> like they need to fix that
[23:05] <wxl> and we need to make sure to seed the stuff
[23:05] <wxl> of course we have to figure out what all the stuff is... cuz it's mroe than just nvidia
[23:06] <wxl> unless we put in that it's a requirement
[23:06] <wxl> can you do an update-drivers check without the internet?
[23:06] <wxl> like maybe it compares to some static database
[23:07] <wxl> if so perhaps we could do a check before.. if they don't need any, who cares.. if they do, check for internet and issue a warning if it's not available
[23:07] <tsimonq2> This isn't a new problem, I think
 List reveals the available drivers
 `ubuntu-drivers list`
[23:12] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rMANUAL3eeb9f0474ba: Add actually adding a boot parmater] lynorian (Lyn Perrine) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rMANUAL3eeb9f0474ba
[23:32] <tsimonq2> Anyone want an easy C++ task?
[23:32] <tsimonq2> https://github.com/calamares/calamares/issues/1125
[23:33] <tsimonq2> https://github.com/calamares/calamares/blob/master/src/modules/license/LicensePage.cpp#L69
[23:33] <tsimonq2> https://github.com/calamares/calamares/blob/master/src/modules/license/LicensePage.cpp#L101
[23:33] <tsimonq2> https://github.com/calamares/calamares/blob/master/src/modules/license/LicensePage.cpp#L110
[23:34] <tsimonq2> Yeah, with this bug being here, it's all a little too last minute, I think.
[23:35] <wxl> bummer
[23:35] <tsimonq2> Let's release note how to install the drivers using ubuntu-drivers or software-properties.
[23:35] <tsimonq2> I did find a few bugs with the license module too.
[23:35] <tsimonq2> so
[23:35] <tsimonq2> ugh
[23:35] <wxl> or maybe just push that through
[23:35] <wxl> as is
[23:35] <wxl> with that additional note
[23:36] <wxl> it's probably unlikely people are going to be toggling like mad
[23:36] <tsimonq2> The more complicated, blocking bug: https://github.com/calamares/calamares/issues/1124
[23:36] <tsimonq2> If that was working, I'd just ship it
[23:36] <tsimonq2> But unless upstream or one of us can fix in the next 16 hours, I'm NACKing it.
[23:37] <wxl> hm those seem related
[23:37] <tsimonq2> That's because they are.
[23:38] <wxl> @kc2bez: could you do a 19.04 install with no internet and file a bug? this will give us a good point of reference for which to add a note in the release notes
[23:38] <tsimonq2> The latter issue means some Hackery, so unless someone's up for the job of writing another 150 line Python module to work around a one liner bug, nope.
[23:41] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rBLOG Blog] tsimonq2 (Simon Quigley) : 
[23:41] <tsimonq2> ugh
[23:41] <wxl> o_O
[23:41] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rBLOG2e805471058a: Fill 19.04 release notes] apt-ghetto (apt-ghetto) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rBLOG2e805471058a
[23:41] <tsimonq2> there
[23:41] <tsimonq2> I had to set up the Herald rule for it.
 @wxl [<wxl> @kc2bez: could you do a 19.04 install with no internet and file a bug? thi …], Should I do it from live?
[23:41] <tsimonq2> DO IT LIVE
[23:41] <tsimonq2> I mean
[23:41] <tsimonq2> yeah
[23:41] <wxl> will that work?
[23:42] <wxl> i thought live works
 Well I need some network at some point to file the bug.
[23:43] <wxl> do it like this:
[23:43] <wxl>  1. ubuntu-bug
[23:43] <wxl>  2. it will ask you what to do with the bug-- save it
[23:44] <wxl> wait
[23:44] <wxl> hold on
[23:44] <wxl> start over
[23:44] <wxl>  0. install with no internet
[23:44] <wxl>  1. boot installed
[23:44] <wxl>  2. ubuntu-bug
[23:44] <wxl>  3. save bug
[23:44] <wxl>  4. plug in internet
[23:44] <wxl>  5. ubuntu-bug /path/to/file
 K. I was just trying not to wreck my current install.
[23:45] <wxl> oh
[23:45] <wxl> uhhhhhhhhhhhhhh partition off some free space? XD
 I could maybe swap a different drive in there.
 Yeah, I got one, nevermind me.
[23:47] <tsimonq2> Nobody push to the blog repo for a bit, please.
[23:47] <teward> *pushes a noop to the repo which does absolutely nothing*
[23:47] <tsimonq2> *shot*
[23:47] <tsimonq2> You were waiting for an opportunity to jump in, weren't you? :P
[23:48] <teward> no i just happened to connect just now :P
[23:48] <teward> perfect coincidence :P
 It'll take a bit. I have to do some disassembly and reassembly wxl.
[23:49] <wxl> no worries