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[11:14] <isomari> greetings, just want to confirm that if I keep updating/upgrading my disco installation everyday as I've been doing, will it become the stable versionwhen it's released or will I have to do additional steps?
[11:30] <isomari> After my last update/upgrade I received this error after the kernel was updated: https://pastebin.com/1k1Sc4iB
[11:31] <isomari> How do I correct this?
[11:39] <lotuspsychje> !info linux-image-generic
[11:39] <ubottu> linux-image-generic (source: linux-meta): Generic Linux kernel image. In component main, is optional. Version 5.0.0.11.12 (disco), package size 2 kB, installed size 15 kB
[11:39] <lotuspsychje> sounds like the wrong kernel your on isomari 
[11:40] <lotuspsychje> !uptodate | isomari 
[11:40] <ubottu> isomari: To ensure you have all the latest known patches and security updates for your ubuntu installation, please update with the following command: `sudo apt update && sudo apt upgrade`. See also !upgrades and !security; you may also need to run `apt full-upgrade`.
[11:56] <tomreyn> isomari: your kernel image is failing to be removed due to a syntax error in /etc/default/grub
[11:56] <tomreyn> you're welcome to paste the file to a pastebin.
[12:00] <tomreyn> about your first question, your installation will continue to get updates and be on par with a proper release in the end. it may, however, have some leftover files in the end you would not have on a fresh installation. and a fresh installation is always the better approach compared to running pre-release software (or upgrading from a pre-release installation).
[12:00] <tomreyn> i'm not a developer saying this, this is just my experience as a user.
[12:26] <isomari> sorry, was away for a bit. Thanks for the responses.
[12:28] <isomari> I found the bad line in my grub file. No more errors. Thanks guys.
[12:29] <isomari> btw, I have been updating with sudo apt update and sudo apt upgrade.
[12:30] <isomari> apt full-upgrade does nothing. Everything is up to date.
[12:31] <isomari> tomreyn: I really would not want to eventually do a clean install. It would involve too many reinstallations of existing packages.
[12:32] <isomari> won't there be a way of cleaning up any residual unwanted packages after the final stable upgrade?
[12:35] <isomari> !upgrades
[12:35] <ubottu> For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes - see also http://www.ubuntu.com/desktop/get-ubuntu/upgrade
[12:35] <isomari> opps
[13:23] <tomreyn> isomari: how would "It would involve too many reinstallations of existing packages" be an issue?
[13:23] <tomreyn> you can just store the list of installed packages to a file, then restore it to your new installation.
[17:31] <isomari> tomreyn: Sorry I was away. I've been using Linux since 2000. Each time I have to clean install many days getting everything just right. It has never been as easy as you make it seem. However, since I starting upgrading, I've had no down time trying to reconfigure my system.
[17:32] <isomari> also, not all packages are install throught apt.
[17:32] <lotuspsychje> isomari: you updated from 18.10?
[17:33] <isomari> getting all my developement environment back is another hassle.
[17:33] <isomari> yes I updated
[17:34] <lotuspsychje> isomari: its reccomended before final, you help us testing with clean daily's
[17:35] <isomari> As fate wold have it, I plan on getting a new laptop so I may not have any choice.
[17:36] <lotuspsychje> isomari: alot of the volunteers on 19.04 help test on a VM too
[17:36] <lotuspsychje> its a quick way to help test bugs out
[17:37] <lordcirth__> By the way, Hashicorp's Packer is really great at taking you from an ISO to a VM image automatically.
[17:37] <isomari> I've nbeen using disco for some time now and I've had no issues whatsoever. Except my network but that issue was before I upgrades.
[17:38] <isomari> I use my system for everything including my development for work. No Issues.
[17:38] <isomari> I update/upgrade everyday at least once.
[17:38] <lotuspsychje> isomari: you can do what you like with your systems mate, just saying we try to avoid having the developers get 'extra' unneeded work for example fishing out upgrade bugs
[17:39] <isomari> But usig it everyday I am testing. That's whay I'm telling you that I personally have had no issues.
[17:58] <isomari> bTW, when is stable due for release?
[18:00] <lordcirth__> isomari, the 18th https://ubottu.com/y/dd
[18:22] <isomari> lordcirth__: thabks
[18:22] <isomari> thanks
[20:02] <tomreyn> isomari: Sorry I was away. Are you familiar with OS deployment solutions / frameworks then? I could imagine someone like you who wants to make sure they get exactly their preferred well defined state again to love it.
[20:03] <tomreyn> This said, with a 20y linux experience i'm sure you'll be finde with the early disco installation.