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GunnarHjGood morning seb128!06:06
GunnarHjseb128: Unless it's too late, the fix of bug #1823778 is now complete and uploadable.06:07
ubot5`bug 1823778 in gnome-control-center (Ubuntu Bionic) "Unable to set Serbian as Language" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/182377806:07
didrocksgood morning06:28
dufluMorning didrocks06:57
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didrockshey duflu07:19
jibelmorning all07:19
didrockssalut jibel07:19
dufluMorning jibel07:27
seb128hey GunnarHj, it's a bit late for release but we can upload and see, if they don't let in then it auto turns into a SRU07:41
seb128hey duflu07:41
seb128lut didrocks jibel07:41
seb128did you guys had a good w.e?07:41
didrockssalut seb128 ! Bof, gastro, toujours l'angine, petite forme quoi07:46
didrockset toi ?07:47
seb128ici ça va, un léger mal de gorge mais c'est tout07:47
dufluHi seb12807:47
seb128hey Laney, how are you? had a good w.e?08:03
Laneyhey seb12808:07
Laneyyeah not bad, lazy one going to the pub with friends and then doing some garden stuff on sunday08:07
seb128I'm good, we had diner/played board games with friends on saturday evening, otherwise relaxing w.e just walking around a bit in the city and taking it easy08:09
seb128now debugging gst autopkgtest unhappiness on i386 *g*08:09
didrockshey Laney08:10
Laneyyep saw that stuff08:10
Laneyyo didrocks, how are you?08:11
didrocksstill sick, starting to be long :/08:11
Laneyany progress?08:11
dufluMorning Laney08:12
didrocksLaney: will go back to the doctor this afternoon, but yeah, no progress, even a little bit worse during nights08:13
Laneyhey duflu, are you well?08:16
* Laney hugs didrocks 08:16
* didrocks hugs Laney back (carefully to avoid flu-or-whatever passing)08:17
dufluHi Laney. Back problems again. I may yet have to invest in an even more expensive chair08:17
dufluYou Laney?08:17
Laneyyeah I'm alright08:20
* Laney donates to the #ubuntu-desktop health clinic08:20
seb128the tooth is fixed?08:21
Laneyseems so08:21
seb128great :)08:22
willcookemorning all08:30
seb128hey willcooke, how is London?08:33
willcookehi seb128 - on the train still.  The sun is out though, so it's looking pretty good.  How are you doing?  Good weekend?08:34
seb128willcooke, I'm good, yes pretty nice. Diner/board game with friends on saturday evening, otherwise mostly relaxed/enjoyed the sunny weather (though it was cold, almost 0°C at night, brrrr)08:35
didrockshey willcooke08:36
willcookeGolf on Saturday, ground was frozen first thing and then it hailed!08:36
willcookemorning didrocks08:36
didrocksLaney: are you heading to London as well?08:36
Laneyyeah tomorrow08:37
Laneygot some Things To Do™08:37
willcookemorning Laney08:40
Laneyyo willcooke08:40
Laneywhat up08:40
dufluMorning willcooke08:42
willcookeafternoon duflu08:42
willcookeduflu, have you seen anything like what's reported in this bug?  https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xorg/+bug/182466108:43
ubot5`Ubuntu bug 1824661 in Ubuntu "Nvidia issues with 19.04 and XPS 15 9750 GTX 1050 Ti Mobile: Boots to blank screen that flashes a couple times. Can't get to tty." [Undecided,Incomplete]08:43
willcookeFeels like a lot of the "odd" problems we get with nv are related to these mobile chips08:43
dufluwillcooke, yeah there's always a few bugs like that around. But I can't assume which one it is till the feedback is received08:44
dufluwillcooke, now added to this list: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gdm3/+bugs?field.tag=nvidia08:45
willcookethanks duflu08:46
willcookeoh, now the page loads, I see you had already commented on the bug, thanks a lot duflu08:46
willcookemeh, something odd happening with this wifi.  All Google links are coming back with broken certs08:48
willcookeSeems IRC is still working08:48
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andyrockmorning all!09:27
seb128good morning andyrock!09:27
dufluMorning andyrock09:28
didrockshey andyrock09:28
sparkiegeekhttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/CosmicCuttlefish/ReleaseNotes#Upgrading_from_Ubuntu_18.04 suggests that "Software & updates" (software-properties-gtk) is in System Settings (gnome-control-center) - but ISTM that's not true for Bionic09:40
sparkiegeekshouldn't the instructions be something like Super-A software-properties ?09:40
sparkiegeekor even Alt-F2 software-properties-gtk09:41
GunnarHjseb128, Laney: Yeah, an early SRU of that Serbian fix would be nice. My primary hope is to fix the bionic SRU (also MP) ASAP. I put it in a PPA if that helps: https://launchpad.net/~gunnarhj/+archive/ubuntu/gnome-control-center09:41
Laney'k, I'll get to it when I get a chance (feel free to ping if it's too long)09:43
GunnarHjLaney: Such a ping won't be needed, will it? ;)09:49
* willcooke -> office at last09:52
LaneyGunnarHj: wouldn't be unheard of :<10:21
GunnarHjLaney: I added some verbal explanation to the MP.10:32
seb128GunnarHj, looking at the code seems ok but I need to test it ... btw what is upstream doing in that regard?11:11
GunnarHjseb128: Upstream pretends that modifiers don't exist. https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/gnome-desktop/issues/5011:13
gitbotGNOME issue 50 in gnome-desktop "Display locale @modifiers properly" [5. Libgnome-Desktop, Bugzilla, Opened]11:13
GunnarHjseb128: Btw, it's in a PPA if you want to test. https://launchpad.net/~gunnarhj/+archive/ubuntu/gnome-control-center11:17
seb128GunnarHj, thx11:18
seb128willcooke, andyrock, so the g-i-s fix works, good job! (it's not really nice, on the inspiron it spins for like 1m30 or something, but that's not our fault)11:46
seb128(tested today's daily)11:46
willcookeseb128, did some testing here, the spinner doesn't spin for me, but it does work - the page reloads and the apps appear12:04
willcookeandyrock is going to see why it's not spinning.  It is for him :)12:04
seb128it is for me as well12:04
seb128on the inspiron12:04
seb128I hope it does spin not so long on a less low-spec machine though, it really looks buggy otherwise :/12:06
seb128it takes less time for a full OS to boot than for the snapd service to get ready, that's a bit ridiculous12:06
willcookeOn a vbox vm it loads in about 30 seconds or so12:07
willcookecould be because I'm in the office though12:07
willcookeI will try from the train on the way home12:07
seb128it shouldn't have to do with internet/the env12:07
seb128it's mostly snapd doing its things which takes time12:08
didrocksI guess a good fallback would be "if not after xxx seconds, offline answer"12:17
didrocksbut ideally, that would be in snapd itself12:17
seb128well, it does spin only for a limited time12:19
seb128and you can do "finish" any time if you wish12:20
seb128there is not much more we can from the UI side, it's really the service delay with is the issue for the user experience...12:20
popeyis there some way to launch gnome-initial-setup other than deleting the .config file for it?12:20
didrocksseb128: yeah, hence the service could by itself have a SLA and in that case send back a default list12:21
didrockspopey: I don't think so (from --help)12:22
didrockspopey: /usr/libexec/gnome-initial-setup --existing-user12:22
didrocksI'm wrong, just run it, the check is only in the autostart file12:22
popeygreat! Thanks12:23
popeywe have updated the ubuntu-firstrun category in the store, but I'm not seeing that reflected in g-i-s12:24
seb128didrocks, yeah, ideally snapd would just handle the queries from early boot without having to wait for the snaps to be in place etc12:24
popeyI only see 9 applications in the list.12:24
seb128popey, you don't see the right apps, or you see the right ones but would just wish it would display more entries?12:24
didrocksyep ;)12:25
popeythere's not enough in the list, some are missing that I know should be there12:25
seb128popey, can you do the same query from the snap command line?12:25
popeycurl -s -H 'X-Ubuntu-Series: 16' "https://api.snapcraft.io/api/v1/snaps/search?confinement=strict,classic&scope=wide&arch=wide&x=$(date +%s)&fields=package_name&section=ubuntu-firstrun" | jq12:26
seb128and it's fine there?12:26
seb128do you have the same ones missing the UI every time (which ones?) or does it change?12:26
popeylooks same every time I launch12:26
willcookeremember its hiding ones you already have installed12:29
popeyI didn't know that.12:29
* willcooke -> meeting12:30
popeyI'll start a clean VM and test it.12:31
sparkiegeekhmm, after upgrading (from Bionic) to Disco, I hit an issue where Bluetooth failed to establish a connection to my headset. in dmesg, I see https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/y95cN8nHPX/13:24
sparkiegeeknote that my bluetooth adapter is USB, and I had it plugged in to a hub built in to my keyboard13:24
sparkiegeekI have subsequently tried it in a different USB port, and got success13:25
sparkiegeekbut this is a regression, since (with workarounds) I had it working just fine via the keyboard in Bionic13:25
seb128sparkiegeek, hey, what do you mean "with workarounds"13:30
seb128'hci0: corrupted ACL packet" does look like a kernel/drive issue more than a desktop one though13:31
seb128tseliot, hey, is https://community.ubuntu.com/t/ubuntu-19-04-and-nvidia-settings/10580 something you saw?14:00
seb128seems like it was also reported as bug #1822937 on launchpad14:00
ubot5`bug 1822937 in nvidia-settings (Ubuntu) "NVIDIA settings won't write to /etc/xorg" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/182293714:00
tseliotseb128: maybe there is something wrong with the polkit dependency, or maybe they are using a version of nvidia-settings that is not from the archive14:03
tseliotI can have a look later this week14:04
seb128tseliot, k, let me ask on the post to start14:04
andyrockseb128: I found the problem with livepatch indicator (the one about the fact that it fails to go from the warning state to the ok state)14:12
seb128andyrock, oh, nice14:12
andyrockseb128: basically there is an undocumented state in livepatch ("applying")14:12
andyrockthe fix should be quick14:12
andyrockso if the state == "applying" reschedule the check (like we do for "needs-check" and "unapplied")14:13
andyrockI'll open a bug and propose a fix, sorry about that!14:13
seb128andyrock, no worry, good that you figured it out, at least it was not wasted time :)14:16
andyrockseb128: should I open a bug? that indicator is not displayed in disco and not yet released in bionic14:21
andyrockseb128: wdyt?14:21
seb128andyrock, don't bother, just do a mp14:21
seb128andyrock, I will reupload to bionic SRU with the fix included14:22
willcookeanyone know if one can "arrange" the icons on the desktop any more?14:41
willcookeon D14:41
willcookereport from a user who upgraded said that his desktop icons all got moved (which is entirely unexpected) - but I dont see an easy way to have them arrange themselves in a grid without dragging each icon14:42
willcookes/is entirely/is not entirely14:51
Laneydon't think so14:51
Laneyhttps://gitlab.gnome.org/World/ShellExtensions/desktop-icons/issues/98 probably14:52
gitbotShell extensions issue 98 in desktop-icons "Rearrange / Sort icons" [Opened]14:52
willcookethanks Laney14:55
LaneyQuality Bug Report14:55
willcookeThis one might evolve in to something more useful: https://gitlab.gnome.org/World/ShellExtensions/desktop-icons/issues/9514:58
gitbotShell extensions issue 95 in desktop-icons "Icon placement setting" [Opened]14:58
willcookehi CadBane14:58
willcookeCadBane, so yeah, looks like an "arrange" feature is missing from the extension which provides icons on the desktop at the moment.  There are a couple of bugs open upstream which look to cover that feature, so likely this is something which will come in time. In the meantime I'm afraid it looks like the only option is drag them to where you want them.14:59
willcookeI'm going to subscribe to those two bugs and keep an eye on it15:00
seb128right, the new code is not having all the options/features nautilus had (some by 'design'/choice to not make the code more complex and difficult to maintain that needed)15:29
seb128I guess we are going to schedule work/improvements according to the feedback we get15:29
tseliotLaney: when you suggested that I add the casper-bottom script to ORDER, what did you mean by ORDER?15:38
Laneytseliot: when you break=bottom, look in /scripts/casper-bottom/, it's there15:38
LaneyI don't know what it does or if that is even required15:39
Laneyit's generated somehow, so hacking it is only for testing15:39
Laneyif it is even needed for that15:39
tseliotLaney: oh, I didn't notice. I'll try that. Thanks15:39
Laneythere's no mention of that filename in casper15:39
Laneyso I dunno where it comes from15:39
Laneyit's all a mystery15:39
Laneyhi Trevinho, how's it going?15:40
TrevinhoLaney: hey. all good.. intense weekend.15:42
Laneydoing what? or... don't we want to know? 🙈15:45
Laneyi'm alright15:45
Laneyfeeling stupid though, not been able to make progress on the casper bug I was trying to work out (but cyphermox is looking too, so that's nice)15:46
Laneygtg for a bit, see you later or from the office tomorrow15:52
willcookesee you Laney15:54
* willcooke -> train. bbl15:56
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TrevinhoLaney: ahahaha, no, tranquilo! xD16:52
Trevinhowell, mostly because of hiking the Teothiuacan pyramids16:52
willcooke /me -> car -> home bbiab17:01
sparkiegeekseb128: sorry, IRC notifications screwed up - "with workarounds" is https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/pulseaudio/+bug/182207317:22
ubot5`Ubuntu bug 1822073 in pulseaudio (Ubuntu) "Bluetooth headset profile forgotten after disconnection" [Undecided,Confirmed]17:22
sparkiegeekseb128: and agree it's likely not a desktop bug17:22
sparkiegeekanyway, EOD17:23
willcookenight all, see you tomorrow.  Train in again tomorrow18:40

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